On 2024-06-05 10:53 a.m., vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:25:15 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
> in <nz_7O.2336$R506.2121@fx36.iad>:
>
>> On 2024-06-05 9:51 a.m., vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:47:54 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
>>> wrote in <i0_7O.50063$5bN4.22016@fx17.iad>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-05 9:24 a.m., vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 08:56:04 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
>>>>> wrote in <IfZ7O.37104$fBCb.8660@fx11.iad>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-06-05 8:33 a.m., vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 08:01:34 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch>
>>>>>>> wrote in <CsY7O.47392$Dsz1.41635@fx14.iad>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-05 7:58 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>>>>>>>>> royalties:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-04 11:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>>>>>>>>>>> royalties:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Either way, every one of these distributions behave like a
>>>>>>>>>>>> "one-man hobby project that had zero third-party testing." I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know why I even bother anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Door, meet AM's ass! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does it bother you to know that when leftists are injected with
>>>>>>>>>> testosterone, they start to lean right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/
>>> view>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in
>>>>>>>>> Democrats
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LMAO Read the abstract; funny as hell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does it bother you than when men age (and also presumably start
>>>>>>>>> getting low testosterone), they start to lurch right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has your lack of testosterone taken your reading ability?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional
>>>>>>>> testosterone,
>>>>>>>> the strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported
>>>>>>>> 45%
>>>>>>>> warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p <
>>>>>>>> 0.001). Our results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red
>>>>>>>> shift" among weakly-affiliated Democrats."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I'll leave you to your one-man projects. I'm done losing
>>>>>>>>>> time and data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry you have so much trouble with your Linux computer(s). In
>>>>>>>>> the meantime,
>>>>>>>>> it works fine for my projects. Makes you wonder where lies the
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I need to be injected with estrogen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not necessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You simply need to pray to our Heavenly Father, who art in Heaven,
>>>>>>> and ask Him why He hates you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you have that in reverse. My Father does not want me to lose
>>>>>> my data because some language file needs updating, and does not want
>>>>>> me to suffer with software whose features don't actually work.
>>>>>> Perhaps Windows doesn't work for you because God thinks you need to
>>>>>> lose a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you were expecting a courteous answer, I would suggest you not
>>>>>> mock God.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't "mock God" -- I mocked YOU, snowflake.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I should have added a smiley...on the other hand, you have
>>>>> been acting like a perfectly stinking and entitled jackass,
>>>>> and you deserve to get zinged for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if it bothers you that much -- sure, try the estrogen.
>>>>
>>>> I'm entitled because I expect Linux to actually work after three
>>>> decades of development? Stupid me!
>>>
>>> But you're blaming "Linux" for a failure in _Lutris_.
>>>
>>> That's like blaming Windows for a failure in _Photoshop_.
>>>
>>> Do you see?
>>
>> I also mentioned that before even installing the distribution, the
>> latest ISO available on the web site, it:
>>
>> 1) told me that it was no longer supported before even getting into the
>> test environment.
>> 2) didn't detect my keyboard change in the installation process,
>> behaving like a US keyboard despite the fact that it was set to Canadian
>> French 3) required an update the moment it was installed requiring a
>> restart, then refused to boot into the desktop 4) after rescue and
>> NVIDIA installation using their instructions, again refused to boot into
>> the system requiring a rescue 5) wouldn't play the video part of a video
>> file using VLC whether it be the proper package or the Flatpak unless
>> the NVIDIA drivers were uninstalled. With them installed, only Dragon
>> Player worked alright 6) asked me to install an update right after it
>> had already installed updates 7) asked me to use a GPG key for keychain
>> encryption then disregarded the fact that it had been installed using
>> the GPG command in the terminal
>>
>> That is all on day _one_ and before even bothering with Lutris. Which
>> part of that list suggests that Linux works well?
>
> I don't know about Linux, but it's for danged sure the distro
> doesn't work well. Sorry you had so much trouble with it.
>
> Was the second update perhaps pulling in codecs from rpmfusion?
> Fedora itself doesn't have any real codecs to speak of for starters.
> But Nobara is supposed to use the extra codecs, which I assume
> come from the rpmfusion repository. That could explain why vlc
> didn't play your video. Another explanation could be failure to
> connect properly with the NVIDIA driver.
>
> I told my friend who reviewed Fedora 40 recently about Nobara,
> and I'm going to forward your message to him for ideas about
> what to test. I might try it out myself just to see how bad off
> it is. But if I do try it, I'm not going to bother with Wayland,
> since X11 is more of a known entity to me.
>
> I also don't use Lutris -- I use Steam.

I use Lutris because some of my games were purchased on GOG, EA, Ubisoft
or the Erpic Games Store. Without Lutris, you immediately lose access to
all of that. GOG in particular is my favourite since it doesn't require
you to be connected to play the game. They remove the DRM before they
sell it, with the publisher's authorization.

Anyways, it seems that I have doomed myself by buying so many games and
movies from services that aren't even available on anything but Windows.
I'll have to try Linux again at some point, but I'm getting increasingly
disillusioned with it. There are only so many slaps in the face that I
can take before I finally get the hint.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-05 7:58 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-04 11:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> Either way, every one of these distributions behave like a "one-man
>>>>> hobby project that had zero third-party testing." I don't know why I
>>>>> even bother anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Door, meet AM's ass! :-)
>>>
>>> Does it bother you to know that when leftists are injected with
>>> testosterone, they start to lean right?
>>
>> :-D
>>
>>> <https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view>
>>
>> Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats
>>
>> LMAO Read the abstract; funny as hell
>>
>> Does it bother you than when men age (and also presumably start getting low
>> testosterone), they start to lurch right?
>>
>> :-D
>
> Has your lack of testosterone taken your reading ability?

No such lack.

> "When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the
> strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45% warmer
> feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < 0.001). Our
> results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among
> weakly-affiliated Democrats."

You call that science? How do they define "weakly affiliated"?

Where's the control group?

What the hell metric is "the strength of their party"?

What metric defines "warmer feelings"?

They should have probably picked some more reasonable and measurable metrics,
like reaction time, strength, and <laughing> sense of humor.

>> Sorry you have so much trouble with your Linux computer(s). In the meantime,
>> it works fine for my projects. Makes you wonder where lies the problem.
>
> Maybe I need to be injected with estrogen.

--
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is
in it - and stay there, lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot
stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again - and that
is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more.
-- Mark Twain

On 2024-06-05 11:15 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-05 7:58 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-04 11:27 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Either way, every one of these distributions behave like a "one-man
>>>>>> hobby project that had zero third-party testing." I don't know why I
>>>>>> even bother anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Door, meet AM's ass! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Does it bother you to know that when leftists are injected with
>>>> testosterone, they start to lean right?
>>>
>>> :-D
>>>
>>>> <https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view>
>>>
>>> Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats
>>>
>>> LMAO Read the abstract; funny as hell
>>>
>>> Does it bother you than when men age (and also presumably start getting low
>>> testosterone), they start to lurch right?
>>>
>>> :-D
>>
>> Has your lack of testosterone taken your reading ability?
>
> No such lack.
>
>> "When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the
>> strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45% warmer
>> feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < 0.001). Our
>> results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among
>> weakly-affiliated Democrats."
>
> You call that science? How do they define "weakly affiliated"?

You accepted the COVID "science," why does actual science bother you?

> Where's the control group?

Did you read the entire document or just the summary?

> What the hell metric is "the strength of their party"?

How strongly how they identify as Useless or Pedophile, I would bet.

> What metric defines "warmer feelings"?

I would imagine that they mean the instead of immediately getting
enraged at the sight of a person who isn't addicted to methamphetamine,
they are more willing to stop screaming and start listening.

> They should have probably picked some more reasonable and measurable metrics,
> like reaction time, strength, and <laughing> sense of humor.

Or they should have completely lied about the results like the
pharmaceutical companies did in reference to their "vaccine."

On 6/5/24 10:29 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>I hate
>that I had to read that and that Joel has such a profound hatred of the
>being he feels abandoned him and turned him into a miserable homosexual.
>Little does he know that every time he gets sodomized, he is distancing
>himself from the Creator and joining the Destroyer.

You're seriously deluded.

--
Joel W. Crump

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-05 8:07 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:23:23 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 06:58:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v3mdu0$arho$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 11:11:19 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Point being, the wintrolls knew very little of the pedigree of Unix
>>>>>> workstations until they were schooled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abso-bloody-lutely.
>>>>
>>>> I've come to the conclusion that the person who asked you for the videos
>>>> was never interested in the aesthetics of the workstation desktops of
>>>> yore -- nor have they acknowledged those desktops' role in shaping the
>>>> look-and-feel of Windows 95.
>>>>
>>>> They seem to be a Windows concern troll having a bit of fun with us...
>>>
>>> Except the joke was on them. Now they seem to be trying desperately to
>>> claim that the Windows desktop of the time looked much better than Unix,
>>> hoping that if they shout it loud enough, that will somehow make it true.
>>>
>>> What they forget is who was in charge of Microsoft at the time: Bill
>>> Gates, whom Steve Jobs famously said had “no taste”.
>>>
>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
>>> menu for the first time.
>>
>> And what good is a pretty desktop if the OS tends to freeze up?
>
> You mean the way Ubuntu regularly does?

I haven't had a desktop/OS freeze up in... years. Gentoo, Debian Unstable,
Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch.

> I guess it's a one-man operation
> which doesn't have enough testers.

Ask Lenovo about Ubuntu and it's parent, Canonical:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/d/linux-laptops-desktops/?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F

Linux Laptops

Shop laptops and desktops computers with Linux preloaded at Lenovo. Choose
from popular ThinkPad and desktop models.

> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/1513394/ubuntu-24-04-fresh-install-system-settings-freezes-when-going-system-remot>

"Ok, apt-get reinstall gnome-remote-desktop seems to have solved it."

> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061840>

An actual bug!

I'm surprised they didn't clue him in to the Linux magic SysRq key.

>> My mail-order Pentium desktop had Win NT (not DOS-Windows) for that reason.
>>
>> (I did have to dig around to find an NT driver for an HP inkjet printer
>> "Certified for Window" Same for the modem card. :-D).
>>
>> Later I slicked it and put RedHat 6 on it.
>
> How long after that did your Pentium desktop get up try to strangle you
> in your sleep?

Heh heh.

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> <idiocy snipped>

Boy I hope you don't treat your students to such junk "science".

--
Grief can take care of itself; but to get the full value of a joy you must
have somebody to divide it with.
-- Mark Twain

On 2024-06-05 11:33 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> <idiocy snipped>
>
> Boy I hope you don't treat your students to such junk "science".
>

No, of course not. I thought it was better for them to "just trust" the
government and the pharmaceutical companies who wanted to inject them
with an experiment vaccine against a largely imaginary virus which
wouldn't have affected them in any significant way in the first place,
risking myocarditis, brain damage and death.

Clearly, pointing them to an experiment which shows that leftists have a
shortage of testosterone and vote left as a result of it is a lot more
damaging.

On 6/3/2024 4:20 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> Our media will lie to us and say the opposite, but there was no doubt
> that Hitler loved his people

He loved SOME Germans. Many others he believed were fit only to destroyed.

> and gave them a greater quality of life by
> removing Jewish influence over German culture.

I really, really hope you don't fill your child's head with such trash.
He deserves better.

On 2024-06-05 11:31 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-05 8:07 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 12:23:23 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 06:58:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v3mdu0$arho$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 11:11:19 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Point being, the wintrolls knew very little of the pedigree of Unix
>>>>>>> workstations until they were schooled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abso-bloody-lutely.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've come to the conclusion that the person who asked you for the videos
>>>>> was never interested in the aesthetics of the workstation desktops of
>>>>> yore -- nor have they acknowledged those desktops' role in shaping the
>>>>> look-and-feel of Windows 95.
>>>>>
>>>>> They seem to be a Windows concern troll having a bit of fun with us...
>>>>
>>>> Except the joke was on them. Now they seem to be trying desperately to
>>>> claim that the Windows desktop of the time looked much better than Unix,
>>>> hoping that if they shout it loud enough, that will somehow make it true.
>>>>
>>>> What they forget is who was in charge of Microsoft at the time: Bill
>>>> Gates, whom Steve Jobs famously said had “no taste”.
>>>>
>>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
>>>> menu for the first time.
>>>
>>> And what good is a pretty desktop if the OS tends to freeze up?
>>
>> You mean the way Ubuntu regularly does?
>
> I haven't had a desktop/OS freeze up in... years. Gentoo, Debian Unstable,
> Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch.
>
>> I guess it's a one-man operation
>> which doesn't have enough testers.
>
> Ask Lenovo about Ubuntu and it's parent, Canonical:
>
> https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/d/linux-laptops-desktops/?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F
>
> Linux Laptops
>
> Shop laptops and desktops computers with Linux preloaded at Lenovo. Choose
> from popular ThinkPad and desktop models.

And what exactly does this prove? Lenovo gives people options; it
doesn't mean that the options are good.

>> <https://askubuntu.com/questions/1513394/ubuntu-24-04-fresh-install-system-settings-freezes-when-going-system-remot>
>
> "Ok, apt-get reinstall gnome-remote-desktop seems to have solved it."

That link says it all: _fresh_ install freezes requiring an immediate
reinstall.

>> <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061840>
>
> An actual bug!
>
> I'm surprised they didn't clue him in to the Linux magic SysRq key.

The clown!

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 11:42:27 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<66608763$2$3747319$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 6/3/2024 4:20 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>
>> Our media will lie to us and say the opposite, but there was no doubt
>> that Hitler loved his people
>
> He loved SOME Germans. Many others he believed were fit only to destroyed.

I missed this exchange. What a monster.

>
>
>
>> and gave them a greater quality of life by
>> removing Jewish influence over German culture.
>
> I really, really hope you don't fill your child's head with such trash.
> He deserves better.

IAWTP.

--
-v

On 2024-06-05 11:42 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 6/3/2024 4:20 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>
>> Our media will lie to us and say the opposite, but there was no doubt
>> that Hitler loved his people
>
> He loved SOME Germans.  Many others he believed were fit only to destroyed.
>
>
>
>> and gave them a greater quality of life by removing Jewish influence
>> over German culture.
>
> I really, really hope you don't fill your child's head with such trash.
> He deserves better.

Research which books the Germans were burning, and you might understand.
You might need to inject yourself with testosterone first though.

On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
> menu for the first time.

Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.

On 2024-06-05, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote at 21:46 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> On 2024-06-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-03 10:33 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 20:42:36 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, following exact instructions to do the things that I intend to do
>>>>> with a Linux distribution makes me a moron. It only failed because I
>>>>> farted while doing it or something. Perhaps I didn't type the commands
>>>>> fast enough or didn't press Enter at the exact time the planets aligned.
>>>>> It's not Linux, it's never Linux. Some thing or body else is always at
>>>>> fault.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk
>>>>
>>>> Why's everybody always picking on me?
>>>
>>> I'm not even complaining, I'm used to this behaviour from the Linux
>>> faithful. Whenever someone points out one of Linux's flaws or is soured
>>> on using it because of the rotten experience it provides them, the lot
>>> of you jump on anyone stating the obvious like flies on a turd. Any time
>>> anyone shows Linux to be bad in one way or another, this is the only
>>> response you can provide:
>>
>> I've allowed (and stated many times) that Linux is probably not a good
>> choice for game players. I don't play games in Linux, therefore I don't have
>> the problems you seem to have. It's not rocket science, most video games are
>> made for the Windows platform. Any Linux Windows game playing solution is
>> going to be challenging.
>
> True, but Steam has made some effort in that department.
>
>>> 1) Not me, never!
>>> 2) You must have done it wrong!
>>
>> I don't have problems with Linux. Period. But I don't say you've done
>> something wrong — except (maybe) by picking a new distribution that seems to
>> be poorly supported and has a small user base.
>>
>>> And then, when it is shown that Linux is the problem beyond a shadow of
>>> a doubt, and the person showing it is only looking for a bug to be fixed
>>> or for some problem to be corrected, you all disappear. It's the same
>>> thing here as it is on Linux forums on the web. Every so often, someone
>>> will "help" by asking the person to execute some obscure command which
>>> ends up doing nothing but making the problem worse.
>>
>> We "disappear" by responding to you...? Okay, whatever. My "help" was the
>> suggestion that you find an older, better supported distribution. But I'm
>> not going to be that helpful to you because I don't play Windows video games
>> on Linux. Again, I suggest that people who want to play Windows video games
>> stick with Windows for their OS. How is this "disappearing?" With my limited
>> knowleged of Windows game playing on Linux, this is the best advice I can
>> give.
>>
>>> But you're right. Facing serious problems on day _one_ is a lot better
>>> than having to learn something awful like sfc /scannow or dism /online
>>> /cleanup-image /scanhealth whenever problems emerge. Only in the perfect
>>> world of Linux where commands like "tcpdump -A -s 10240 'tcp port 80 and
>>> (((ip[2:2] - ((ip[0]&0xf)<<2)) - ((tcp[12]&0xf0)>>2)) != 0)' | egrep
>>> --line-buffered "^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )|^[A-Za-z0-9-]+: " |
>>> sed -r 's/^........(GET |HTTP\/|POST |HEAD )/\n\1/g'" are the norm can
>>> anyone be happy.
>
> Why are you using egrep? The sed part of the pipeline also seems a bit
> iffy..
>
>> Windows has serious problems. Especially with updating. You know that, we
>> all know that. It's also spyware and it's getting worse by the day.
>>
>> I'll say it one more time. If your goal is to play Windows video games,
>> stick with Windows. For those of use who DON'T play Windows video games, and
>> could care less about the bloated Microcrap Office Suite, Linux works well.
>> I simply DO NOT have problems with Linux. Period.
>
>
> Don't forget Adobe.

I don't use Adobe anything. I have no need for it. But if there is something
made by Adobe that you (or he) absolutely need(s) to use (and can you/he can
afford to rent it by the month), then you'll (he'll) probably wnat to stick
with Windows.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 6/4/2024 5:46 PM, RonB wrote:

> I don't have problems with Linux. Period.

"Works for me" is what everyone at https://forums.linuxmint.com/ wants
to hear.

We ALL know it's bullshit, wRonG. Quit pretending.

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 13:31:56 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<6660a10b$0$3738362$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>
>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a
>> “Start”
>> menu for the first time.
>
>
> Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.

Haven't you been paying attention?

--
-v

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
>> menu for the first time.
>
>Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.

Heh, you know I have a great refute for that, which *doesn't* even
involve Linux, right? You guessed it, Win8.x, for which Classic
Shell, open source, provided a free and fully functional start
replacement. I know, there was a paid app too, but why would I want
it, when Classic Shell was so great and configurable? Face it, you
want everything in FOSS to be "GuhNoo", and it just isn't so.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-05 11:33 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> <idiocy snipped>
>>
>> Boy I hope you don't treat your students to such junk "science".
>
> No, of course not. I thought it was better for them to "just trust" the
> government and the pharmaceutical companies who wanted to inject them
> with an experiment vaccine against a largely imaginary virus which
> wouldn't have affected them in any significant way in the first place,
> risking myocarditis, brain damage and death.
>
> Clearly, pointing them to an experiment which shows that leftists have a
> shortage of testosterone and vote left as a result of it is a lot more
> damaging.

:-D You're one silly man.

--
ROMEO: Courage, man; the hurt cannot be much.
MERCUTIO: No, 'tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide
as a church-door; but 'tis enough, 'twill serve.

On 6/6/2024 12:05 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a “Start”
>>> menu for the first time.
>>
>> Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.
>
>
> Heh, you know I have a great refute for that, which *doesn't* even
> involve Linux, right? You guessed it, Win8.x, for which Classic
> Shell, open source, provided a free and fully functional start
> replacement. I know, there was a paid app too, but why would I want
> it, when Classic Shell was so great and configurable? Face it, you
> want everything in FOSS to be "GuhNoo", and it just isn't so.

I want EVERYTHING in FOSS to be NOT GuhNoo, so the vile Stallman can
have a huge conniption and feel claustrophobic and run around whining
that he's being subjugated by 'non-free' software.

Unfortunately, many of the largest and best FOSS projects in the world
are GPL-licensed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_using_the_GPL_license

(not that everyone of those is the best)

If you're going to give your code away:
public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL (gag)

On 6/5/2024 12:07 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-06-05 11:42 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 6/3/2024 4:20 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Our media will lie to us and say the opposite, but there was no doubt
>>> that Hitler loved his people
>>
>> He loved SOME Germans.  Many others he believed were fit only to
>> destroyed.
>>
>>
>>
>>> and gave them a greater quality of life by removing Jewish influence
>>> over German culture.
>>
>> I really, really hope you don't fill your child's head with such
>> trash. He deserves better.
>
> Research which books the Germans were burning, and you might understand.
> You might need to inject yourself with testosterone first though.

No amt of test will make me hate Jews, believe in God, deny women the
right to abortions, vote for Trump (or Biden), love Putin, or embrace
GuhNoo tenets.

You're all fucked up inside, Slimer. What's going on?

On 2024-06-06 11:16 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 6/6/2024 12:05 AM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a
>>>> “Start”
>>>> menu for the first time.
>>>
>>> Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.
>>
>>
>> Heh, you know I have a great refute for that, which *doesn't* even
>> involve Linux, right?  You guessed it, Win8.x, for which Classic
>> Shell, open source, provided a free and fully functional start
>> replacement.  I know, there was a paid app too, but why would I want
>> it, when Classic Shell was so great and configurable?  Face it, you
>> want everything in FOSS to be "GuhNoo", and it just isn't so.
>
>
> I want EVERYTHING in FOSS to be NOT GuhNoo, so the vile Stallman can
> have a huge conniption and feel claustrophobic and run around whining
> that he's being subjugated by 'non-free' software.
>
> Unfortunately, many of the largest and best FOSS projects in the world
> are GPL-licensed.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_using_the_GPL_license
>
> (not that everyone of those is the best)
>
>
>
> If you're going to give your code away:
> public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL (gag)

From what I can tell, there is a GPL program for every task a person
would care to do. That's an accomplishment, no matter how mediocre that
software might end up being. It's good to know that people of limited
means can still get software to complete the job.

On 2024-06-06 11:41 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 6/5/2024 12:07 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-06-05 11:42 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 4:20 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our media will lie to us and say the opposite, but there was no
>>>> doubt that Hitler loved his people
>>>
>>> He loved SOME Germans.  Many others he believed were fit only to
>>> destroyed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> and gave them a greater quality of life by removing Jewish influence
>>>> over German culture.
>>>
>>> I really, really hope you don't fill your child's head with such
>>> trash. He deserves better.
>>
>> Research which books the Germans were burning, and you might
>> understand. You might need to inject yourself with testosterone first
>> though.
>
>
> No amt of test will make me hate Jews, believe in God, deny women the
> right to abortions, vote for Trump (or Biden), love Putin, or embrace
> GuhNoo tenets.
>
> You're all fucked up inside, Slimer.  What's going on?

Secular Jews are a very destructive force. They were the very reason why
Germans were so willing to rise up and support a man like Hitler. Even
Ezra Levant, of Rebel News, himself a Jew and a man that I fully support
admits that secular Jews or JINOs (Jews in name only) have no beneficial
influence on society. These are the people behind affirmative action,
unchecked immigration, interracial marriages, feminism, abortion,
eugenics, the homosexual "community," gender identity and the
progressive acceptance of pedophilia. Point to any of those and look at
the names with the greatest influence behind them. Disregarding the
problem because you consider it "anti-semitic" will not solve it.

Remember that even the steaming pile of Snit known as Michael Glasser
admitted to being an Ashkenazi Jew.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

>interracial marriages

You blew apart any point you imagined you had, with that. Idiot.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 6/6/2024 11:59 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-06-06 11:16 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 6/6/2024 12:05 AM, Joel wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a
>>>>> “Start”
>>>>> menu for the first time.
>>>>
>>>> Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heh, you know I have a great refute for that, which *doesn't* even
>>> involve Linux, right?  You guessed it, Win8.x, for which Classic
>>> Shell, open source, provided a free and fully functional start
>>> replacement.  I know, there was a paid app too, but why would I want
>>> it, when Classic Shell was so great and configurable?  Face it, you
>>> want everything in FOSS to be "GuhNoo", and it just isn't so.
>>
>>
>> I want EVERYTHING in FOSS to be NOT GuhNoo, so the vile Stallman can
>> have a huge conniption and feel claustrophobic and run around whining
>> that he's being subjugated by 'non-free' software.
>>
>> Unfortunately, many of the largest and best FOSS projects in the world
>> are GPL-licensed.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_using_the_GPL_license
>>
>> (not that everyone of those is the best)
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're going to give your code away:
>> public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL (gag)
>
> From what I can tell, there is a GPL program for every task a person
> would care to do. That's an accomplishment, no matter how mediocre that
> software might end up being. It's good to know that people of limited
> means can still get software to complete the job.

Sure. Not everyone can afford hardware and software, plus a monthly
Internet connection.

On 2024-06-06 1:02 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 6/6/2024 11:59 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-06-06 11:16 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 6/6/2024 12:05 AM, Joel wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/4/2024 7:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, the big advance in Windows 95 was in actually having a
>>>>>> “Start”
>>>>>> menu for the first time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another feature for bereft-of-ideas GuhNoo/FOSS copycats to clone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heh, you know I have a great refute for that, which *doesn't* even
>>>> involve Linux, right?  You guessed it, Win8.x, for which Classic
>>>> Shell, open source, provided a free and fully functional start
>>>> replacement.  I know, there was a paid app too, but why would I want
>>>> it, when Classic Shell was so great and configurable?  Face it, you
>>>> want everything in FOSS to be "GuhNoo", and it just isn't so.
>>>
>>>
>>> I want EVERYTHING in FOSS to be NOT GuhNoo, so the vile Stallman can
>>> have a huge conniption and feel claustrophobic and run around whining
>>> that he's being subjugated by 'non-free' software.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, many of the largest and best FOSS projects in the
>>> world are GPL-licensed.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_using_the_GPL_license
>>>
>>> (not that everyone of those is the best)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're going to give your code away:
>>> public domain > MIT > BSD > GPL (gag)
>>
>> From what I can tell, there is a GPL program for every task a person
>> would care to do. That's an accomplishment, no matter how mediocre
>> that software might end up being. It's good to know that people of
>> limited means can still get software to complete the job.
>
>
> Sure.  Not everyone can afford hardware and software, plus a monthly
> Internet connection.

Exactly. My thinking, when I first became interested in open-source, it
was because I saw the movement as being nothing but beneficial to the
poorest people around me and in my profession. I was especially
sympathetic to them after having seen what Poland was like during the
Communist era and the impossibility they faced in trying to live as well
as their Western counterparts. I am against equity, but I am
wholeheartedly in favour of equality and making sure that everyone is on
a level playing field. Open-source allows that.

That's why I always get emotional and take it very personal when
open-source fails me. For some of you, defending open-source is
important because that's what you use. For me, it is because I want it
to eventually become so good that education and government will seek it
out as a default, and users will perceive no different between it and
the proprietary stuff their hardware came with. I _need_ for educational
and governmental standards to be open, and I have a strong desire for
the Linux desktop to be so good that people will desire it over the
homogeneous interface Microsoft and Apple sell. Instead, Linux is
something that is very obscure to most people and, frankly, it deserves
to be so for the time being. Right now it is in the "my computer is
about to be recycled so I might as well use Linux on it" phase rather
than the "Linux is as good as Windows and MacOS but costs me nothing so
I will use it" phase where I need for it to be.

On 6/1/2024 6:08 AM, vallor wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2024 19:52:20 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <665a62aa$2$1245626$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> On 5/30/2024 7:35 PM, vallor wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 10:03:05 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>> <66588714$0$1245635$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 5/29/2024 9:16 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>> Did you watch the video that rbowman posted? Linus was surprised at
>>>>> the Linux performance of his little Thelio. It beat MS Windows in
>>>>> many ways.
>>>>
>>>> link please. I'd like to see it.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> v=JTN1c1j6V1s&list=LLLpz93TZfYzoEgEICOaMA0Q&index=189
>>>
>>> [ I'll have to respond to the rest of your article later. ]
>>
>>
>> One of the comments on that vid:
>>
>> "A couple years ago I was at my grandma's house to use her printer and I
>> got on her PC and it had Linux on it. I couldn't figure out how to
>> navigate it so my grandma had to teach me how to use Linux."
>>
>> ha!
>
> (Linux printing uses cups, the same system as Apple Mac printing.)
>
> I noticed you have nothing to say about the video.

I'll say some things:

1) Since you didn't say it was Linus Tech Tips, I thought it would be a
Linus Torvalds response. That would be nice to hear.

2) the title of the vid says the System76 computer is 'REALLY weird',
but in the end he says it's 'really cool'.

3) Linus labels non-Linux-tinkerers 'normies'

4) system performed about the same as Windows on the same hardware

5) I like the size and looks of the Thelio he reviewed, but not having
USB ports on top/front is a drawback

6) System76 charged about $850 to build and ship a system ($2400
delivered vs $1400 + cost of case to DIY) + warranty + tech support