How did Trump take your money ?

The economy has never been better, just ask Biden's sycophants.

Under Biden:
-- I lost my jobs.
-- My Social Security check Doesn't cover my rent.
-- My rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> At my job, we used to have a couple of Sun workstations that were used
>> to test our Sbus products. My God, they were slow.
>
>When I lived in LA, early 90's, I had a low-end Sun workstation.
>The graphics, though black-and-white only, were pretty nice.

Nice graphics and glacial performance were characteristics they shared
with the early Mac's, which we also had, to test our NuBus products.

We supported them all. ISA, EISA, Micro Channel, PCI, PCIe...

--
"you don't have the ability to list any innovations from the FOSS
copycats." - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel"

On 6/2/2024 12:59 PM, Relf wrote:

> How did Trump take your money ?

I never said he did. He wants me to just give it to him. And he lies
his fraudulent, deranged ass off when he tries to persuade me to give
him my money.

"speaking as a political prisoner"
"I've been found guilty in Biden's rigged court"
"They think they’ve stolen this election for good"
"Biden Trial of the Century"
"lying FAKE NEWS media"

"chip in whatever you can"... why does a 10-billionaire need my money?
Because he's most likely close to broke, and the lawyers have wised up
and now demand payment upfront because it's known the serial business
cheat doesn't pay his bills.

> The economy has never been better, just ask Biden's sycophants.
>
> Under Biden:
> -- I lost my jobs.

Why?

> -- My Social Security check Doesn't cover my rent.

Get a job. Get 2 jobs. You've been coasting on welfare for decades.

> -- My rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.

Get a 3rd job.

chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> At my job, we used to have a couple of Sun workstations that were used
>>> to test our Sbus products. My God, they were slow.
>>
>> When I lived in LA, early 90's, I had a low-end Sun workstation.
>> The graphics, though black-and-white only, were pretty nice.
>
> Nice graphics and glacial performance were characteristics they shared
> with the early Mac's, which we also had, to test our NuBus products.
>
> We supported them all. ISA, EISA, Micro Channel, PCI, PCIe...
>
no one read

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 07:45:46 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I don't see really see it. I think people have the right to patent
> products (so that they can make a living making something they invented
> — exclusively for a few years — so long as it's a real product and
> they're not patenting a "concept" like Apple's "rectangle with rounded
> corners"). I also think software can be copyrighted. I don't have to use
> proprietary software.

Patents and copyrights work in theory, not so well in practice. Between
the patent trolls and people making money from copyrights that had nothing
to do with the creation of the copyrighted property there is a lot of
government sponsored grifting.

One of my mentors was a fairly prolific innovator. He never patented
anything since he thought it would make it easier for the idea to be
copied. Hit the market, make your money, and move on to something else
when the copycats arrive.

Stephan Kinsella has some good arguments in 'Against Intellectual
Property'.

https://c4sif.org/

rbowman wrote:

>At least the wave of utterly suspicious emails with a
>'Terms_of_service.pdf' attachment have stopped. While I understand the
>reasoning behind a scheme with 0 marginal costs that might have a 1 in a
>million yield I gotta wonder.

The other day I got an email stating that my email had been selected
at random for a $800,000 gift. Lucky me! All I had to do was click
the link to claim it!

--
"I am siding here with decency and honesty." - lying asshole Hadron
Quark, defending the serial liar "Snit", and nearly making me spit
coffee all over my brand-new flat-screen

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 08:47:25 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Did you get personalized feedback that using Caps Lock as Ctrl is
> extremely idiotic?
>

Why?

https://www.howtogeek.com/683823/why-does-the-caps-lock-key-exist-and-why-
was-it-created/

Not only do I not use it for its intended purpose, I sometimes hit it when
I fat finger an 'a'. That's bad enough when I'm typing text but a complete
pita when I'm entering a password. Might as well do something useful with
it.

What's worse is IBM did it right in 1981 and screwed it up in 1984. Are
you nostalgic for your Trash-80?

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:35:10 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 6/1/2024 9:43 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> it’s like Windows forces you to download an entire new system install
>> every Patch Tuesday.
>
>
> What an idiot liar.

Well, what is it doing when it downloads a GB or two? Fetching cat videos?

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:09:14 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 6/1/2024 9:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 06:34:55 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-01 12:11 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have no idea, do you? There are lots of clips on YouTube showing
>>>> off those 1990s-era Unix systems. You want to go educate yourself, or
>>>> shall I give you some links?
>>>
>>> Feel free to do so.
>>
>> NeXTStep: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn7qIl59MAQ>.
>
>
> "around $18,500 for the retail entry price point."
>
> https://allaboutstevejobs.com/blog/2012-09-04-how-expensive-the-next-
computers-actually-were/

Your point?

"You see where I’m going with this. Compared to the machines of its time,
the NeXT Cubes were not exaggeratedly overpriced. For example, the entry
level education Cube cost about 20% more than the Mac IIcx, but with over
50% processor speed, 8MB of RAM and a stunning 17-inch display. Because
the Mac did not come with a display! For that you had to pay an extra
$2,000… Now for the killer argument, let’s put these competing systems
side by side:"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120

Throw in the printer and you're looking at $20,000 1980 dollars. Its
successor, the System/23, was about $10000 1981 dollars. That the new,
improved version used a 8085 processor with 64 KB of RAM gives you an idea
if its stellar performance.

On 02 Jun 2024 15:41:08 GMT, Joel Crump wrote:

> I'm a Democrat anyway, but Trump is far worse than other Republican
> candidates we've had.

Worse than George HW Bush, war monger and promoter of NAFTA? His idiot son
that invaded the wrong country? Despite being a bull in a china ship,
Trump didn't do as much actual damage as some of the previous Republicans.

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 07:50:28 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> I apologize to everyone but you about what I just wrote. I am frustrated
> that even in 2024 and having done research into the right distribution
> for my needs, I am yet again disgusted by the result. I love everything
> about Linux but the result, yet again, is pure demoralization. To read
> this idiotic zealot's words and his delusion that any of those 1990s
> UNIX distributions were actually pretty simply add salt to the wound.

This is the very limited gamer distro that you tried to install? You can
always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs. I regularly update
Debian, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Fedora distros without all that drama.

On 2024-06-02 2:27 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 07:50:28 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> I apologize to everyone but you about what I just wrote. I am frustrated
>> that even in 2024 and having done research into the right distribution
>> for my needs, I am yet again disgusted by the result. I love everything
>> about Linux but the result, yet again, is pure demoralization. To read
>> this idiotic zealot's words and his delusion that any of those 1990s
>> UNIX distributions were actually pretty simply add salt to the wound.
>
> This is the very limited gamer distro that you tried to install? You can
> always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs. I regularly update
> Debian, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Fedora distros without all that drama.

It's Fedora with tweaks. If you point to it as being bad, you might as
well point to Fedora at the same time.

On 02 Jun 2024 13:50:02 GMT, Joel Crump wrote:

> On 6/2/24 9:44 AM, DFS wrote:
>>On 6/2/2024 7:50 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>> the equivalent of two dried branches someone tied together and called
>>> an operating system.
>>
>>ha!
>>
>>Note: this is logged in, stamped 'approved' and archived in my system,
>>to be resuscitated when you switch back to Linux 7 hours from now.
>
>
> You have *time* to keep up with him switching? ;)

Definitely AC/DC.

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 13:19:52 -0400, DFS wrote:

> I never said he did. He wants me to just give it to him. And he lies
> his fraudulent, deranged ass off when he tries to persuade me to give
> him my money.

Trump never asked me for money but I've been getting begging emails from
Joe and the Camel. Maybe they'll honor the unsubscribe request better than
they do anything else.

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 14:34:23 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> On 2024-06-02 2:27 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 07:50:28 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>> I apologize to everyone but you about what I just wrote. I am
>>> frustrated that even in 2024 and having done research into the right
>>> distribution for my needs, I am yet again disgusted by the result. I
>>> love everything about Linux but the result, yet again, is pure
>>> demoralization. To read this idiotic zealot's words and his delusion
>>> that any of those 1990s UNIX distributions were actually pretty simply
>>> add salt to the wound.
>>
>> This is the very limited gamer distro that you tried to install? You
>> can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs. I regularly
>> update Debian, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Fedora distros without all that
>> drama.
>
> It's Fedora with tweaks. If you point to it as being bad, you might as
> well point to Fedora at the same time.

Fedora repackaged by tweakers? Okay.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote at 22:37 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 2024-05-30 6:00 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 05:41:10 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 02:25:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>> At least the downloading is in the background from what I remember.
>>>
>>> And then the updating itself renders your machine unusable, because
>>> Windows cannot update files that are currently in use, like Linux can.
>>
>> In my private hell I have one Windows 11 machine on the Insiders channel.
>> It hasn't been able to install the 'update' since March. I'm not the only
>> one and quite a few people are pissed. worst case I'll have to do a clean
>> install in July.
>
> I "love" when updates refuse to install whether you go through Windows
> Update or try to install them manually. It happened all the time in 10.

Can you even install updates manually?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 02:38 this Friday (GMT):
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 21:55:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Debian doesn't have a lot of pre-installed apps, and less if you don't
>> select a DE.
>
> I did the plain vanilla xfce install and it was a little light. It ran but
> by no means were you going to develop much of anything without adding
> packages.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, not even git is pre-installed!
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Me: Show me on the doll where Trump touched you.

DFS: He wants to touch my wallet, but I refuse.

Me: How did Trump take your money ?

DFS: I never said he did.

I see, you're mad because the FAKE billionaire gets REAL donations;
CNN's contributions are countless/priceless, for example.

Crooked Joe says there's no stagflation, yet:
-- My rent goes up 10 %/year, every year.
-- My Social Security check doesn't cover my rent.
-- I lost my jobs.

You (CandyMan) replied ( to Uncle_Matuch ):
> > I "love" when updates refuse to install whether you go through Windows
> > Update or try to install them manually. It happened all the time in 10.
>
> Can you even install updates manually?

I'd donate my *ss to Bill Gates before I'd allow automatic updates.

Each & Every Win10 update is done MANUALLY.

On 2024-06-02 2:47 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 14:34:23 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> On 2024-06-02 2:27 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 07:50:28 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>> I apologize to everyone but you about what I just wrote. I am
>>>> frustrated that even in 2024 and having done research into the right
>>>> distribution for my needs, I am yet again disgusted by the result. I
>>>> love everything about Linux but the result, yet again, is pure
>>>> demoralization. To read this idiotic zealot's words and his delusion
>>>> that any of those 1990s UNIX distributions were actually pretty simply
>>>> add salt to the wound.
>>>
>>> This is the very limited gamer distro that you tried to install? You
>>> can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs. I regularly
>>> update Debian, Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Fedora distros without all that
>>> drama.
>>
>> It's Fedora with tweaks. If you point to it as being bad, you might as
>> well point to Fedora at the same time.
>
> Fedora repackaged by tweakers? Okay.

Nobara Linux. Look it up.

On 2024-06-02 3:00 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote at 22:37 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 2024-05-30 6:00 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 05:41:10 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 02:25:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At least the downloading is in the background from what I remember.
>>>>
>>>> And then the updating itself renders your machine unusable, because
>>>> Windows cannot update files that are currently in use, like Linux can.
>>>
>>> In my private hell I have one Windows 11 machine on the Insiders channel.
>>> It hasn't been able to install the 'update' since March. I'm not the only
>>> one and quite a few people are pissed. worst case I'll have to do a clean
>>> install in July.
>>
>> I "love" when updates refuse to install whether you go through Windows
>> Update or try to install them manually. It happened all the time in 10.
>
>
> Can you even install updates manually?

Yes, but it doesn't always result in success even then.

On 6/2/2024 2:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:35:10 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2024 9:43 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> it’s like Windows forces you to download an entire new system install
>>> every Patch Tuesday.
>>
>>
>> What an idiot liar.
>
> Well, what is it doing when it downloads a GB or two? Fetching cat videos?

How did you get your 'entire new Windows system' binaries down to 2GB?

Alert the media.

On 6/2/2024 2:18 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:09:14 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2024 9:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 06:34:55 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-01 12:11 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have no idea, do you? There are lots of clips on YouTube showing
>>>>> off those 1990s-era Unix systems. You want to go educate yourself, or
>>>>> shall I give you some links?
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to do so.
>>>
>>> NeXTStep: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn7qIl59MAQ>.
>>
>>
>> "around $18,500 for the retail entry price point."
>>
>> https://allaboutstevejobs.com/blog/2012-09-04-how-expensive-the-next-
> computers-actually-were/
>
> Your point?

That for an exorbitant amount of money, you can produce graphics that in
34 years will make a Linux advocate look like an idiot.

On 6/2/24 2:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 09:35:10 -0400, DFS wrote:
>> On 6/1/2024 9:43 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> it’s like Windows forces you to download an entire new system install
>>> every Patch Tuesday.
>>
>> What an idiot liar.
>
>Well, what is it doing when it downloads a GB or two? Fetching cat videos?

That's what you get for paying for software, it seems, bloat. Windows,
Adobe, Office, it's all ridiculous junk. We're less willing to punish
ourselves.

--
Joel W. Crump

On 6/2/24 2:24 PM, rbowman wrote:
>On 02 Jun 2024 15:41:08 GMT, Joel Crump wrote:
>
>> I'm a Democrat anyway, but Trump is far worse than other Republican
>> candidates we've had.
>
>Worse than George HW Bush, war monger and promoter of NAFTA? His idiot son
>that invaded the wrong country?

I supported the two Gulf wars and NAFTA, although in retrospect it became
rather unclear, whether the second war was less harmful than the status quo
in Iraq. I can admit I simply don't know, it was an untenable situation
that turned into a questionable policy, countless casualties among Iraqi
citizens and our service members.

> Despite being a bull in a china ship,
>Trump didn't do as much actual damage as some of the previous Republicans.

Only because he's not capable of it, he did plenty of damage to our system
of government, though, if not internationally.

--
Joel W. Crump