On 1/15/25 4:13 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>>  the thing.
>>>>
>>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>>
>>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>>  on other tasks.
>>>
>>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on
>>> planet
>>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>>
>> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
>> by Mordecai Roshwald.
>
> Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction
> novel! =(

Hard to do now ... most everything will derive from
many other existing sources/premises even if you try
to avoid it. Kinda like rock/pop now ... last even
remotely 'different' sound was 'grunge' - and that
was 'remotely'.

Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
their skills with their instruments was initially SO
poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands :-)

Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

On 1/15/25 5:47 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:59:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person
>> is descended from royalty of one sort or another.
>
> I'm descended from a long line of pirates, horse thieves, and general
> ne'er-do-wells. There's reasons we-uns ain't in Europe no more.

I'm sure my line derived from Nordic marauders and
civil engineers.

All hail Woden One-Eye !

Anyway, 'England' is at least half Nord genes by now.
The nearest thing to "Original England" is Wales, and
to a lesser extent Cornwall.

But even they weren't "original". England may win the
prize for "most invaded" landmass ever. Lots and lots
of little groups stretching back into the Ice Age, then
the Beaker People, then ... it's COMPLICATED.

There are other places that were "crossroads" that are
equally complicated - genetically/culturally. England
was kind of the dead-end dest, where every wandering
tribe kinda wound up.

Hmmmm ... some say 'gods' only live so long as they
are remembered - did I just extend the lifetime of
Woden ? :-)

On 1/15/25 5:45 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:59:08 +0100, D wrote:
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>
>> What about YMCA? Wasn't there an indian there somewhere?
>
> Village Perverts? Yeah, they tried to hit every gay blade fantasy. Why in
> the holy hell Trump picked up that song is beyond me.

Hey, it's a FUN song ! :-)

Yep, the VP aimed for entertaining gay people/culture.

And you accuse Trump of being horribly awfully lethally
anti-gay ...... ever think you were kinda dis-informed ?

BTW - the surviving VP say it's a-OK for Trump to use
their song .......

>> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
>> end?
>
> That's the 23AndMe solution -- everybody has Sub-Saharan African genes <=
> 0.1%. Too many dirty white boys were posting their unblemished European
> ancestry.
>
> As the 'science' moves on Chris Stringer may be relegated to the dustbin.

NO such thing as a 'pure' ancestry. We're all east Africans
in the end. If you've got lighter skin, you're not even a
'real human' - a Neanderthal/Denisovian hybrid instead.

On 1/14/25 2:46 PM, D wrote:
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> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
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>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:28:54 +0100, D wrote:
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>>> Did von Braun leave any personal notes behind when he died? Would be fun
>>> to read his thoughts on the subject!
>>
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/mm77044172
>>
>> He left a lot to search through. He was an advocate of education which
>> must have been frustrating in the Huntsville of his era.
>>
>
> Hmm, strange, the site doesn't work for me, but will try again later to
> see if they are open. Probably on a coffee break. ;)

Don't bother ... the entire premise here is that
Alabama residents can't possibly match WVBs level
of intellect Just Because ........

My father and his people met WVB. Word was that
he was STILL a NAZI prick up to the end.

On 1/14/25 3:57 PM, D wrote:
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>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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>> On 2025-01-13, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/01/2025 09:17, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you see the Ukrainian drone with a shotgun? Shot down 2 drones
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> terminated a Russian in a trench.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?! Truly life imitates usenet art! ;) Do you have a link?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auU6i6zLxvc
>>>
>>> This is some classic, good, old fashioned eastern european thinking
>>> right
>>> there!
>>
>> Impressive.  It reminds me of that Monty Python sketch
>> where Eric Idle says, "What about pointed sticks?"
>
> A classic! And they also teach you how to defend against various kinds
> of fruit as well!

Bananas !

Ultra-deadly !!!

On 1/13/25 11:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 00:52:42 -0000 (UTC), Robert Heller wrote:
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>> This is what I have, unfortunately, Adafruit no longer stocks it.
>>
>> (Not that it would be hard to make, say out of 1/8" thick birch plywood
>> or lexan or PVC, etc.)
>>
>> https://www.adafruit.com/product/2534
>
> https://vilros.com/products/vesa-mount-for-raspberry-pi
>
> I've never ordered from Vilros, but $10 with free shipping sounds good.
> Amazon carries a lot of Vilros stuff and it was a toss between that and
> Canakit for me, but not the mount. The mounts they do have are more
> expensive.
>
> It's been my sad experience that unless I have the materials laying around
> DIY projects end up costing more in the long run.

I have bought 'Vilros' kits. Nothing really
bad there. More or less like CanaKit.

But DO be sure you don't get the METAL case
or your wi-fi signal will be significantly
degraded. Just sayin'

On 15/01/2025 22:45, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:59:08 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> What about YMCA? Wasn't there an indian there somewhere?
>
> Village Perverts? Yeah, they tried to hit every gay blade fantasy. Why in
> the holy hell Trump picked up that song is beyond me.
>
Perhaps he secretly takes it up the chuff?
Nothing would surprise me. About Donald. A clown for our times.

>> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
>> end?
>
> That's the 23AndMe solution -- everybody has Sub-Saharan African genes <=
> 0.1%. Too many dirty white boys were posting their unblemished European
> ancestry.
>
I wouldnt mind a percent or two of Neanderthal,. They were good in cold
weather.
Sadly I am sure instead there is African in there. I hate the cold

> As the 'science' moves on Chris Stringer may be relegated to the dustbin.
>

I dont recognise the name, in my kill file he probably already is...

--
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

On 16/01/2025 05:48, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

>   Hmmmm ... some say 'gods' only live so long as they
>   are remembered - did I just extend the lifetime of
>   Woden ?  :-)

I though it was Odin or Wotan.

--
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

On 16/01/2025 09:14, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> My father and his people met WVB. Word was that
>   he was STILL a NAZI prick up to the end.

Formal Nazism may have disappeared at the end of WW2, but so many
Germans still believed - and believe to this day, that the Germans are
*simply better at stuff*.

At its peak in 1945 the Nazi party comprised 8.5 million members

About 13% of the population.

Less than 20 faced death post war.
What happened to the rest? They ran Germany for the next 50 years.

--
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:59:08 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> What about YMCA? Wasn't there an indian there somewhere?
>
> Village Perverts? Yeah, they tried to hit every gay blade fantasy. Why in
> the holy hell Trump picked up that song is beyond me.

Haha, yes, I did think about that. Very funny to think about the origins,
and then superimpose everyone happily dancing at Trump rallies. ;)

>> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
>> end?
>
> That's the 23AndMe solution -- everybody has Sub-Saharan African genes <=
> 0.1%. Too many dirty white boys were posting their unblemished European
> ancestry.

Classic! Spain got inspired and decided to award their monkeys in
gibraltar human rights! ;)

> As the 'science' moves on Chris Stringer may be relegated to the dustbin.

Who is Chris Stringer?

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:59:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person
>> is descended from royalty of one sort or another.
>
> I'm descended from a long line of pirates, horse thieves, and general
> ne'er-do-wells. There's reasons we-uns ain't in Europe no more.
>

Pirates!?! I see now where the long hair and beard comes from!

On Thu, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:11:50 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
>> and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
>> universal love and happiness!
>
> I was fascinated by Esperanto when I was a kid. UNESCO was pushing it in
> the '50s. It's a good thing those pre-teen fascinations don't last long.
>
> https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Wonderful-Horrible-History-of-
> Esperanto-the-Universal-Language
>
> tl;dr Synopsis: Zamenhof tried to invent a new Yiddish to unite humanity
> into a beige colored mass all speaking the same pidgin whatever. Hitler
> wasn't amused and singled out the language in 'Mein Kampf'.
>
> I'm surprised the globalists haven't rolled it out again although it is
> rather Eurocentric in derivation.

I think that is the answer. Since europe is white, it would be a political
impossibility. If it would have originated in africa, we'd all be speaking
n'speranto by now. ;) Imagine... only being allowed to work if you passed
your n'speranto tests!

On 2025-01-16, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> Someone from Pink Floyd once commented that the reason
> their music sounded so "different" was mostly because
> their skills with their instruments was initially SO
> poor - they COULDN'T emulate the popular bands :-)

I heard that Queen's distinctive guitar sound came from
the fact that the only guitar and amp that Brian May
could originally afford was a cheap piece of crap.

> Something really new - beyond 'space' and 'multiverses',
> 'galactic empires', dubious 'time travel' and 'AI' - will
> have to be on the horizon before sci-fi can move up a notch.
> All that stuff is old and creaky and over-exploited.

Cory Doctorow has been writing some frighteningly prophetic
stories. Some, like _Radicalized_, are already coming true.

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