On 2025-01-14, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
> boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
> an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
> from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
> into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
> month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
> does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
> the thing.

:-)

I was once in a store where the muzak equivalenet was
provided by an FM radio mounted up on a pillar, tuned
to the local "soft rock" station. (Soft rock: the muzak
of the '90s.) I guess a lot of the employees were muzak
haters, since the radio had a handmade sign taped to it:
"Do NOT change the station!"

Pet peeve: such radios (whether playing muzak or not)
with a single speaker at one end of the store hooked up
to the left channel, and another single speaker at the
other end of the store hooked up to the right channel.
This guarantees that no matter where you are,
you're only going to hear half the music.

> There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
> was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
> PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible :-)
>
> Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
> you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
> and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
> on other tasks.

Ugh. I can't imagine being exposed to that stuff day in and
day out. It's toxic, and will turn your brain into guacamole.
But aside from that, you have to feel sorry for the musicians
who actually record the stuff. Could you imagine using your
talents playing music that nobody will ever really _listen_ to?
As for semi-audible music, it drives me nuts - an unreasonably
large portion of my brain devotes itself to trying to figure out
what's playing, leaving me mentally exhausted and pissed off.

In the late '90s / early noughties, a cow orker was into the
local "soft rock" station (Vancouver's first FM station, which
had been playing muzak since about 1958, had gone over to the
'90s counterpart, see above). I brought my own radio and a set
of headphones to work, and treated them as life-support equipment.
When anyone asked, I explained that I didn't want to spend my time
cleaning up my radio after Mariah Carey had bled all over it.

Back around 1980 I came across the real thing, in a storefront with
a sign saying "Music by Muzak". At any time of the day or night you
could look through the window and see huge tape reels slowly turning...

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs |
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Elevator music
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | brings me down.
/ \ if you read it the right way. |

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:26:02 +0100, D wrote:
>> The company should have offered language classes for everyones safety!
>> This sounds like swedish/danish cooperative ventures, where each group
>> insist that the other can understand them, since the language are so
>> close. This never works.

On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> Some of the extra material on the Bron/Broen DVDs mentioned that :) One of
> the Swedish actresses mentioned being on a bus in Copenhagen, hearing a
> girl say 'skumfidus', and thinking it must be something dirty.
> ...
> The molding plant I referred to had moved from Connecticut to rural
> Georgia, attracted by cheap labor. They had not taken into account the
> difference in work ethic. As the week progressed the work force thinned
> out. By Friday there weren't many people besides our crew and the foreman
> who had relocated from Connecticut. I think he was in his 40's but had a
> heart attack, possibly brought on by dealing with the frustration.
>
> The town was dry so we had to go to Athens, about 30 miles away, for R&R.
> The university was there so it was a little more civilized. Madison billed
> itself as the only town Sherman didn't burn on his way to the sea.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Georgia
>
> This was the early '70s and southern rock was just starting to take off. I
> had long hair and a beard and after staring at me for a while the busboy
> at the local restaurant finally worked up the courage to come over and ask
> 'Are y'all one of them rock musicians?" About 10 years later Athens would
> spawn R.E.M as rural Georgia caught up with the US.

See also the documentary movie "American Factory" about how a Chinese
owned multi-national car glass company tried to open a factory in a
former GM plant in Ohio. (Around 2015, IIRC)

Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:29:32 +0100, D wrote:
>> Come to think of it... swedes focus more on biker gangs. Very few
>> arabians in biker gangs. Very racist!

On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 'Sons of Anarchy' was a fictional drama but it touched on reality at
> times. The Mongols are Hispanics while the Angels, Banditos, and others
> are white. There isn't much diversity.

In Denmark, too, much of the drug trade was controlled by biker gangs.
Hell's Angels and Bandidos in fierce competition.

I hear that in Sweden, it is mostly Turks these days?

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:26:02 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> The company should have offered language classes for everyones safety!
>> This sounds like swedish/danish cooperative ventures, where each group
>> insist that the other can understand them, since the language are so
>> close. This never works.
>
> Some of the extra material on the Bron/Broen DVDs mentioned that :) One of
> the Swedish actresses mentioned being on a bus in Copenhagen, hearing a
> girl say 'skumfidus', and thinking it must be something dirty.

Haha, yes. Skumfidus sure sounds vaguely dirty. On the other hand, swedes
should be careful about "bolla" which works in the other direction.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqgRC5sfCaQ
>
> That may work for Swedes and Danes too. Our PBS shows are often British
> but late on Saturday nights they can be more diverse. They're subtitled
> but the one last Saturday was strange. It wasn't German but it sounded
> like something I should understand, if that makes any sense, unlike French
> or Italian shows.
>
> The molding plant I referred to had moved from Connecticut to rural
> Georgia, attracted by cheap labor. They had not taken into account the
> difference in work ethic. As the week progressed the work force thinned
> out. By Friday there weren't many people besides our crew and the foreman
> who had relocated from Connecticut. I think he was in his 40's but had a
> heart attack, possibly brought on by dealing with the frustration.
>
> The town was dry so we had to go to Athens, about 30 miles away, for R&R.
> The university was there so it was a little more civilized. Madison billed
> itself as the only town Sherman didn't burn on his way to the sea.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Georgia
>
> This was the early '70s and southern rock was just starting to take off. I
> had long hair and a beard and after staring at me for a while the busboy
> at the local restaurant finally worked up the courage to come over and ask
> 'Are y'all one of them rock musicians?" About 10 years later Athens would
> spawn R.E.M as rural Georgia caught up with the US.

You must have been very popular with the women at that time? I imagine
very strict, conservative southern beauties, and there you are, quiet the
hippie, long hair and stuff. Crazy times!

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:26:02 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> The company should have offered language classes for everyones safety!
>> This sounds like swedish/danish cooperative ventures, where each group
>> insist that the other can understand them, since the language are so
>> close. This never works.
>
> Some of the extra material on the Bron/Broen DVDs mentioned that :) One of
> the Swedish actresses mentioned being on a bus in Copenhagen, hearing a
> girl say 'skumfidus', and thinking it must be something dirty.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqgRC5sfCaQ

Brilliant!

Let me show you the danish side of the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk . ;)

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:29:32 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Come to think of it... swedes focus more on biker gangs. Very few
>> arabians in biker gangs. Very racist!
>
> 'Sons of Anarchy' was a fictional drama but it touched on reality at
> times. The Mongols are Hispanics while the Angels, Banditos, and others
> are white. There isn't much diversity.
>

This is sad. How can we change it? ;)

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:33:17 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> That's horrible! Don't they know that if they make love to a black man,
>> they can become black themselves! It's contagious!
>
> What they usually become is a single mother with a mulatto child, not the
> hottest commodity on the market. Obama's are few and far between.

Ahhh... I stand corrected! So that is the transformation that takes place!
;)

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:28:54 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Did von Braun leave any personal notes behind when he died? Would be fun
>> to read his thoughts on the subject!
>
> https://www.loc.gov/item/mm77044172
>
> He left a lot to search through. He was an advocate of education which
> must have been frustrating in the Huntsville of his era.
>

Hmm, strange, the site doesn't work for me, but will try again later to
see if they are open. Probably on a coffee break. ;)

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 20:50:10 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> This is some classic, good, old fashioned eastern european thinking
>> right there!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW__dtgC7y8
>
> Then there's good old Yankee ingenuity:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBBC-xL_MTg
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS1KFmFw2Dw

Oh yes... I imagine the ukrainians are watching too!

> So far the local airsoft warriors don't have drones although they have
> built some elaborate fortifications in an area I hike. I try to avoid them
> and the paintball crews and make them aware I'm a non-combatant and do not
> carry non-lethal rounds.

Wouldn't it be more effective to say that you are a combatant and that you
do carry lethal rounds? ;)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:32:05 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! My
>> estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of sticks
>> out from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down the velcro
>> or double sided tape route.
>
> amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Sticky-Fasteners-Perfect/dp/B000TGUOCO/
>
> I've had excellent luck with these and they're easy to find locally. If
> anything they stick a little too good although I've never had the adhesive
> part pull away.

Looks just about right!

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-01-13, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/01/2025 09:17, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did you see the Ukrainian drone with a shotgun? Shot down 2 drones and
>>>>> terminated a Russian in a trench.
>>>>
>>>> Really?! Truly life imitates usenet art! ;) Do you have a link?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auU6i6zLxvc
>>
>> This is some classic, good, old fashioned eastern european thinking right
>> there!
>
> Impressive. It reminds me of that Monty Python sketch
> where Eric Idle says, "What about pointed sticks?"

A classic! And they also teach you how to defend against various kinds of
fruit as well!

On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the board
>>>>>> SET.
>>>>>
>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and I've
>>>> attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's lived happily
>>>> there for a year or so at the moment.
>>>
>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>>
>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! My
>> estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of sticks out
>> from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down the velcro or
>> double sided tape route. ;)
>
> I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
> boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
> an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
> from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
> into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
> month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
> does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
> the thing.
>
> There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
> was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
> PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible :-)
>
> Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
> you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
> and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
> on other tasks.
>

It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:29:32 +0100, D wrote:
>>> Come to think of it... swedes focus more on biker gangs. Very few
>>> arabians in biker gangs. Very racist!
>
> On 2025-01-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 'Sons of Anarchy' was a fictional drama but it touched on reality at
>> times. The Mongols are Hispanics while the Angels, Banditos, and others
>> are white. There isn't much diversity.
>
> In Denmark, too, much of the drug trade was controlled by biker gangs.
> Hell's Angels and Bandidos in fierce competition.
>
> I hear that in Sweden, it is mostly Turks these days?

Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think. Turks
have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
<lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

>On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
>> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk
>>
>> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
>> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
>> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

>
>My ex'es lineage includes a couple that moved from South Carolina to the
>Texas panhandle in stages through the decade of "the trail of tears".
>The assumption among family historians was that the wife was Cherokee,
>but there is no hint of links to the tribal rolls. He probably didn't
>see any advantage to it. since he was quite successful. "He arrived in
>the (TX) panhandle with a wagon and the oxen that pulled it, and by the
>time he died, he owned 29 3/4 sections of range land. He never spent
>money on anything but buying land and expanding his cattle herd."
>
>We loved the story, but we never felt any pull towards claiming benefits
>from Indian heritage. Except for my niece, who put a 1/16th native blood
>on her college application - she needed all the scholarships she could
>find.
>
>My daughter, on the other hand, noted on her application that she was
>(1) a Daughter of the American Revolution through her mother (descended
>from John Alden of the Mayflower) and (2) the child of an immigrant
>through me. Just for fun. She is of course also a dual national from
>birth and has lived abroad 3 times. (A year at age 5, a year at age 16,
>and recently 6 months at age 36.)
>
>This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the
>Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
> <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
>>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
>>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
>>> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk
>>>
>>> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
>>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
>>> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
>>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
>>> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
>
> Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
> tribes, in some places, if not others.
>
> Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.

Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
tribe be Purified !" :-)

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
>> <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
>>>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
>>>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
>>>> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk
>>>>
>>>> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
>>>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
>>>> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
>>>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
>>>> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
>>
>> Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
>> tribes, in some places, if not others.
>>
>> Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
>
>
> Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
> to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
> tribe be Purified !" :-)

Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

On 15/01/2025 05:49, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
>   to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
>   tribe be Purified !"  🙂

Already happening.

--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:
> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!

--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:45:27 +0100, D wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:33:17 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> That's horrible! Don't they know that if they make love to a black
>>> man,
>>> they can become black themselves! It's contagious!
>>
>> What they usually become is a single mother with a mulatto child, not
>> the hottest commodity on the market. Obama's are few and far between.
>
> Ahhh... I stand corrected! So that is the transformation that takes
> place!
> ;)

Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:46:49 +0100, D wrote:

> Hmm, strange, the site doesn't work for me, but will try again later to
> see if they are open. Probably on a coffee break.

Works for me even in Tor which thinks I'm in Germany today.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
> setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
workforce is still from Taiwan.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 22:02:15 +0100, D wrote:

> Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think.
> Turks have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.

No eastern Europeans? iirc they often were the villains in the Wallander
series. although I think he also wrote about the Muslims. I know one
author had a glowing description of Malmö. I think Larsson was too busy
being a Communist to notice the real problem.

On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk
>
> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

My ex'es lineage includes a couple that moved from South Carolina to the
Texas panhandle in stages through the decade of "the trail of tears".
The assumption among family historians was that the wife was Cherokee,
but there is no hint of links to the tribal rolls. He probably didn't
see any advantage to it. since he was quite successful. "He arrived in
the (TX) panhandle with a wagon and the oxen that pulled it, and by the
time he died, he owned 29 3/4 sections of range land. He never spent
money on anything but buying land and expanding his cattle herd."

We loved the story, but we never felt any pull towards claiming benefits
from Indian heritage. Except for my niece, who put a 1/16th native blood
on her college application - she needed all the scholarships she could
find.

My daughter, on the other hand, noted on her application that she was
(1) a Daughter of the American Revolution through her mother (descended
from John Alden of the Mayflower) and (2) the child of an immigrant
through me. Just for fun. She is of course also a dual national from
birth and has lived abroad 3 times. (A year at age 5, a year at age 16,
and recently 6 months at age 36.)

This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the
Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

On 1/14/25 4:00 PM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the
>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>> SET.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and
>>>>> I've attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's
>>>>> lived happily there for a year or so at the moment.
>>>>
>>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>>>
>>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try!
>>> My estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of
>>> sticks out from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down
>>> the velcro or double sided tape route. ;)
>>
>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>  the thing.
>>
>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>
>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>  on other tasks.
>>
>
> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on
> planet earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth
> while your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)

Heh, heh ... it'd make a fun sci-fi short story :-)

But what would eventually-passing aliens THINK of
us upon hearing an endless muzak track ???

On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
>
>> Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
>> setting up shop in Pennsylvania.

Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
really liked him - something just irritating
about his personality.

> The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
> workforce is still from Taiwan.

Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
but for practical issues ......