On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>> boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>> an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>> from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>> into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>> month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>> does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>> the thing.
>>
>> There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>> was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>> PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible :-)
>>
>> Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>> you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>> and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>> on other tasks.
>
> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)

That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
by Mordecai Roshwald.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

On 2025-01-15, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
> by Mordecai Roshwald.

Post-apocalyptic. Damned typos.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the
> Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.

There is a small but interesting Iroquois museum in upstate NY that's sort
of a labor of love. The guy running it is even more interesting than the
artifacts. As we were talking I said 'My grandmother was a full-blooded..'
and his eyes started to roll. When I finished with '...German' we had a
good laugh.

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:29:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts aren't on the same
> continent. Govts won't like it but for practical issues ......

Having the parts on Taiwan is worrisome. Someday the PRC may stop rattling
its sabers and get serious. They don't have anyone across the North Sea
thinking about annexing them but having ASML as a sole source is another
potential problem.

On 1/15/25 1:27 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:29:40 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts aren't on the same
>> continent. Govts won't like it but for practical issues ......
>
> Having the parts on Taiwan is worrisome. Someday the PRC may stop rattling
> its sabers and get serious. They don't have anyone across the North Sea
> thinking about annexing them but having ASML as a sole source is another
> potential problem.

I tend to agree about Taiwan.

Hmm ... how about subdividing the factory into
Chinese and American sections - each doing their
thing ?

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:45:27 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:33:17 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's horrible! Don't they know that if they make love to a black
>>>> man,
>>>> they can become black themselves! It's contagious!
>>>
>>> What they usually become is a single mother with a mulatto child, not
>>> the hottest commodity on the market. Obama's are few and far between.
>>
>> Ahhh... I stand corrected! So that is the transformation that takes
>> place!
>> ;)
>
> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

Tsss... those indians... pure racists!

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk

Very beautiful!

> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse

What about YMCA? Wasn't there an indian there somewhere?

> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.

Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
end? ;)

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:46:49 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Hmm, strange, the site doesn't work for me, but will try again later to
>> see if they are open. Probably on a coffee break.
>
> Works for me even in Tor which thinks I'm in Germany today.
>

Yes... I checked again after 45 minutes and then it worked. Probably
coffee break at the government department, although I wish they would put
up a sign on the front door. ;)

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 22:02:15 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Some turks, mostly arabians, some africans, mostly somalis I think.
>> Turks have been on decline, and the arabians are taking over.
>
> No eastern Europeans? iirc they often were the villains in the Wallander
> series. although I think he also wrote about the Muslims. I know one

I think that was more common in the 90s. Some bosnians & co came to sweden
and started lower level maffia gangs, but they never managed to grow to
the size and power as the arabian maffia.

I would imagine that small slivers still exist and live well off selling
weapons to the arabians. I've heard the majority of weapons come from the
balkans and are smuggled into sweden by boat and car.

> author had a glowing description of Malmö. I think Larsson was too busy
> being a Communist to notice the real problem.

This is a correct statement. I think Larsson was very communist. I think
most cultural workers in sweden are communist. It helps getting government
support. Also the culture of culture workers is very leftist. I don't know
why. I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost
a-political, and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being
left, she didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very
right and conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for
decades.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/14/25 4:00 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/13/25 4:32 AM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/12/25 1:42 PM, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, root wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but then I'd have to find or make an enclosure that fits the
>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>> SET.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An enclosure is purely cosmetic. I attached my Pi5 to a piece of
>>>>>>> cardboard with zip-ties and hung it down the back of my desk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My other TV computer, a radxa zero, dangles off the hdmi cable, and
>>>>>> I've attached it to the back of the OLED tv with some tape. It's lived
>>>>>> happily there for a year or so at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Try Velcro or double-sided tape ... works great for
>>>>>  sticking a Pi to whatever  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Once my wife complains too loudly, this is _exactly_ what I will try! My
>>>> estimate is that the next time the tape let's go, and it sort of sticks
>>>> out from behind the tv, that is the time I will be going down the velcro
>>>> or double sided tape route. ;)
>>>
>>>  I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>>  boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>>  an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>>  from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>>  into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>>  month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>>  does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>>  the thing.
>>>
>>>  There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>>  was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>>  PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible  :-)
>>>
>>>  Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>>  you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>>  and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>>  on other tasks.
>>>
>>
>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while your
>> little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>
>
> Heh, heh ... it'd make a fun sci-fi short story :-)
>
> But what would eventually-passing aliens THINK of
> us upon hearing an endless muzak track ???
>

I think you just sovled Fermis paradox. They probably put up warning signs
around this corners of the universe. ;)

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>
>>> Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
>>> setting up shop in Pennsylvania.
>
> Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
> really liked him - something just irritating
> about his personality.

I think the key here is just to invite him over for coffee and see where
it leads!

>> The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
>> workforce is still from Taiwan.
>
> Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
> all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
> of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.

That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto, and
no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
universal love and happiness! ;)

> Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
> aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
> but for practical issues ......
>

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-01-14, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> I think it was rbowman I was talking to - the
>>> boss wanted 'muzak' for the office. So, I took
>>> an old Pi-1/256mb and a few long muzak tracks
>>> from 70s shopping malls and sneaked the wiring
>>> into the PA system. The tracks rotate every
>>> month. Worked for a dozen years and likely STILL
>>> does - so long as none of the muzak haters FIND
>>> the thing.
>>>
>>> There was about an inch behind where the PBX system
>>> was ... so I velcroed the unit to the back of the
>>> PBX box where it's almost perfectly invisible :-)
>>>
>>> Proper muzak - you shouldn't actually HEAR it unless
>>> you TRY. Keeps some little corner of the brain occupied
>>> and, according to some, thus actually improves performance
>>> on other tasks.
>>
>> It could very well become the last piece of operating machinery on planet
>> earth. Could you imagine the sun expanding, swallowing the earth while
>> your little muzak machine plays the perfect muzak for the event? ;)
>
> That reminds me of the end of the post-acopalytic novel _Level 7_,
> by Mordecai Roshwald.

Sigh... makes one despair of ever writing an original science fiction
novel! =(

On 15/01/2025 09:04, D wrote:
> I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost
> a-political, and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being
> left, she didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very
> right and conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for
> decades.

WE have long running jokes about the Engineer™ and the ArtStudent™

While the ArtStudent™ spends hours dreaming up idealised imaginary
solutions, the Engineer™ gets a tool and cracks the problem in seconds...

It is the essential difference between what the US calls Liberalism,
and what is called Conservatism.

I think Winston Churchill summed up socialism as the 'equal sharing of
poverty', because social justice *only* was the aim. Never increasing
wealth, only splitting it 'fairly'.

Today's UK government epitomises that.

Job creation, not wealth creation
Taxation not investment.
Regulation, not free enterprise.

The furore in the free software epitomises it. Never mind good code, as
long as you are a right minded person who thinks men can have vaginas.

--
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

On 15/01/2025 08:59, D wrote:
> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
> end? 😉

Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person
is descended from royalty of one sort or another.

There is an Australian who has a good claim to the throne:

Michael Edward Abney-Hastings, the 14th Earl of Loudoun, was a
British-Australian who claimed to be the rightful king of England. He
died in 2012.

Abney-Hastings was a descendant of George Plantagenet, the Duke of
Clarence, who was the brother of Edward IV and Richard III.

Abney-Hastings' claim was based on the idea that Edward IV was
illegitimate. If this were true, then George Plantagenet and his heirs
would have been the rightful monarchs of England.

Abney-Hastings' claim was the subject of the 2004 Channel 4 documentary
Britain's Real Monarch.

Abney-Hastings' son, Simon Abney-Hastings, became the 15th Earl of
Loudoun after his father's death. Simon was invited to the coronation of
King Charles III

-- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:
>> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
>
> More RedSkin that RedHat?
>
> Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
> Menus written on 3D parchment.
> Totem pole menus.
>
> I'd run that fer sure!

You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!

On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:
>>> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
>>
>> More RedSkin that RedHat?
>>
>> Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
>> Menus written on 3D parchment.
>> Totem pole menus.
>>
>> I'd run that fer sure!
>
> You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
> happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
> Brilliant!

Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
older than a very old thing stops me....

--
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:
>>>> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
>>>
>>> More RedSkin that RedHat?
>>>
>>> Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
>>> Menus written on 3D parchment.
>>> Totem pole menus.
>>>
>>> I'd run that fer sure!
>>
>> You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
>> happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
>> Brilliant!
>
> Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
> older than a very old thing stops me....

Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't you?
So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the genes
that regulate that!!

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 15/01/2025 09:04, D wrote:
>> I've met _one_ artist in my life who was centrist, or almost a-political,
>> and one artist was a friend of my mother and although being left, she
>> didn't really care that much about it. My mother, being very right and
>> conservative and her artist friend managed to stay friends for decades.
>
> WE have long running jokes about the Engineer™ and the ArtStudent™
>
> While the ArtStudent™ spends hours dreaming up idealised imaginary
> solutions, the Engineer™ gets a tool and cracks the problem in seconds...
>
> It is the essential difference between what the US calls Liberalism, and what
> is called Conservatism.
>
> I think Winston Churchill summed up socialism as the 'equal sharing of
> poverty', because social justice *only* was the aim. Never increasing wealth,
> only splitting it 'fairly'.
>
> Today's UK government epitomises that.
>
> Job creation, not wealth creation
> Taxation not investment.
> Regulation, not free enterprise.
>
> The furore in the free software epitomises it. Never mind good code, as long
> as you are a right minded person who thinks men can have vaginas.

This is the truth! For a lot of entertaining material on that theme in the
tech sector, have a look at https://lunduke.substack.com/ .

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 15/01/2025 08:59, D wrote:
>> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the end?
>> 😉
>
> Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person is
> descended from royalty of one sort or another.
>
> There is an Australian who has a good claim to the throne:
>
> Michael Edward Abney-Hastings, the 14th Earl of Loudoun, was a
> British-Australian who claimed to be the rightful king of England. He died in
> 2012.
>
> Abney-Hastings was a descendant of George Plantagenet, the Duke of Clarence,
> who was the brother of Edward IV and Richard III.
>
> Abney-Hastings' claim was based on the idea that Edward IV was illegitimate.
> If this were true, then George Plantagenet and his heirs would have been the
> rightful monarchs of England.
>
> Abney-Hastings' claim was the subject of the 2004 Channel 4 documentary
> Britain's Real Monarch.
>
> Abney-Hastings' son, Simon Abney-Hastings, became the 15th Earl of Loudoun
> after his father's death. Simon was invited to the coronation of King Charles
> III

I'm happy to hear that there is no animosity! Or perhaps he was invited so
Charles could gloat?

> -- I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
> ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned
>
> Richard Feynman
>
>
>
>

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:59:08 +0100, D wrote:

> What about YMCA? Wasn't there an indian there somewhere?

Village Perverts? Yeah, they tried to hit every gay blade fantasy. Why in
the holy hell Trump picked up that song is beyond me.

> Makes one wonder... perhaps we are all some small % of cherokee in the
> end?

That's the 23AndMe solution -- everybody has Sub-Saharan African genes <=
0.1%. Too many dirty white boys were posting their unblemished European
ancestry.

As the 'science' moves on Chris Stringer may be relegated to the dustbin.

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:59:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Statistically it is 99.99% certain that any British-descended person
> is descended from royalty of one sort or another.

I'm descended from a long line of pirates, horse thieves, and general
ne'er-do-wells. There's reasons we-uns ain't in Europe no more.

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:11:50 +0100, D wrote:

> That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
> and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
> universal love and happiness!

I was fascinated by Esperanto when I was a kid. UNESCO was pushing it in
the '50s. It's a good thing those pre-teen fascinations don't last long.

https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Wonderful-Horrible-History-of-
Esperanto-the-Universal-Language

tl;dr Synopsis: Zamenhof tried to invent a new Yiddish to unite humanity
into a beige colored mass all speaking the same pidgin whatever. Hitler
wasn't amused and singled out the language in 'Mein Kampf'.

I'm surprised the globalists haven't rolled it out again although it is
rather Eurocentric in derivation.

On 1/15/25 5:51 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 15/01/2025 05:49, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

>> Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
>>    to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
>>    tribe be Purified !"  🙂
>
> Already happening.

Uh oh .......

On 1/15/25 4:12 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/25 11:30 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
>>> <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are
>>>>> quite
>>>>> picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
>>>>> tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized
>>>>> member.
>>>>> Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9xTXZwnJUk
>>>>>
>>>>> Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the
>>>>> horse
>>>>> for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee
>>>>> but I
>>>>> think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee
>>>>> ancestry
>>>>> and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
>>>>> Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
>>>
>>> Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
>>> tribes, in some places, if not others.
>>>
>>> Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
>>
>>
>>  Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
>>  to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
>>  tribe be Purified !"  :-)
>
> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?

I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution' :-)

Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...

On 15/01/2025 21:16, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 15/01/2025 17:55, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/01/2025 09:12, D wrote:
>>>>> Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
>>>>
>>>> More RedSkin that RedHat?
>>>>
>>>> Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
>>>> Menus written on 3D parchment.
>>>> Totem pole menus.
>>>>
>>>> I'd run that fer sure!
>>>
>>> You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see
>>> it happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT
>>> events. Brilliant!
>>
>> Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and
>> am older than a very old thing stops me....
>
> Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't
> you? So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the
> genes that regulate that!!

True! All I need to do is self identify as an 18 yr old Cherokee squaw
and there you are, I am one!

--
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

On 1/15/25 4:11 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> On 1/14/25 8:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:40:36 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or the 1985 comedy "Gung Ho" about a fictional Japanese auto company
>>>> setting up shop in Pennsylvania.
>>
>>  Was that the one with Michael Keaton ? Never
>>  really liked him - something just irritating
>>  about his personality.
>
> I think the key here is just to invite him over for coffee and see where
> it leads!

Whisky bottle over the head most likely ... :-)

>>> The delays with TSMC's Arizona plant weren't a comedy. I think half the
>>> workforce is still from Taiwan.
>>
>>  Well, communications CAN be a problem ... can't expect
>>  all workers to learn Japanese, Chinese or English. Some
>>  of the latest tech can help a bit, but it's not smooth.
>
> That is why god invented esperanto! Force everyone to learn esperanto,
> and no one can complain about being treated unfairly, and there will be
> universal love and happiness! ;)

Esperanto - AAAUUGH !!!

Even thus, too 'Euro' - the Wokies/anti-colonialists
will never approve now. HAS to be based on Hindi or
Sikh or something. The more West-Hating the better !

Anyway, even English didn't become "universal"
despite the UK owning half the world for a century+

The tech is kinda here for good real-time 'universal
translators' however ... spoken word -2- spoken word
with little detectable delay.

>>  Hmmm ... maybe a 'virtual factory' where all parts
>>  aren't on the same continent. Govts won't like it
>>  but for practical issues ......
>>