On 26 Nov 2024 19:31:56 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> Early C++ was pretty awful. I understand iterators and other arcane
> bits have been cleaned up a lot but I have no need to use general
> C++. Arduino, Pico, and other microcontrollers use C/C++ but it's a
> limited subset of C++.

Ever since C99 added // comments, I have seen zero reason to bother
with C++.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:06:56 +0100, D wrote:

> What about roadkill? Did you ever try?

There is a diner in Utah that caters to truckers. A sign behind the
counter says 'You kill it, we grill it'

Harvesting roadkill in this state is legal with one provision. You can't
field dress the animal by the side of the road and have to take the whole
thing and dress it at home.

The closest I've come is skinning a mink I hit. That process is enough to
convince you mink isn't edible.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:02:09 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> On 26 Nov 2024 19:31:56 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> Early C++ was pretty awful. I understand iterators and other arcane
>> bits have been cleaned up a lot but I have no need to use general C++.
>> Arduino, Pico, and other microcontrollers use C/C++ but it's a limited
>> subset of C++.
>
> Ever since C99 added // comments, I have seen zero reason to bother with
> C++.

They were a real improvement. Commenting out a block that already had a
comment was painful. U think it was C99 that also allowed declaring a
variable close to where you were using it rather than a laundry list at
the head of a function.

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 03:21:35 -0500
"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were totally ok, but
> after maybe 55 ......
>
> "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.

Once upon a time, kid-me could manage ~8 s'mores in one sitting...this
has (sadly) not been the case for many, many years :/

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 02/12/2024 14:03, D wrote:
>> I bought some rabbit sausage the other week, and it tasted like tasteless
>> chicken sausage. Perhaps a little less smooth texture. It wasn't bad, but
>> definitely not something to write home about either.
>
> I think that is actually the perfect summary.
>
> I've had it served as a stew with plenty of herbs and either smoked bacon or
> sausage, and its OK.
>
> Curried a wild one, once. OK.
>
> But I wouldn't go rushing out to buy it.
>

Yes, I group it with the chickens. Plenty of spices and other stuff
necessary to make it enjoyable.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 02/12/2024 14:06, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/12/2024 18:47, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 11:18:01 +0100, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What was wrong with the goose? I saw a video on youtube where they
>>>>> cooked swan, and it was quite tough meat.
>>>>
>>>> There is a reason a lot of the old folk remedies for chest colds
>>>> involving
>>>> smearing goose grease on the victim. After rendering out the grease the
>>>> meat is dark and scanty relative to the size of the goose, like duck.
>>>>
>>> This only applies to domesticated varieties that don't fly much.
>>>
>>> Wild goose is lean and the breast is brown, not white to show its muscle
>>> that gets *used*
>>>
>>>> I think chickens and turkeys that have have been bred to maximize meat
>>>> spoil the playing field.
>>>
>>> All domesticated species lose flavour.
>>>
>>> I was in sardinia and stopped to see a guy barbecuing something. I asked
>>> what it was 'wild baby pig'.
>>> We bought some to eat. It was delicious! I asked 'what herbs did you use?'
>>> He laughed and pointed to the hillside 'all herb. Pig eat!'
>>>
>>> We pay a price for cheap meat.
>>>
>>> These days free range pigs abound here in the UK and the pork has never
>>> been better.
>>>
>>> Frankly if I am going to eat meat, I want to eat good meat.
>>
>> Ahh... same methodology used when it comes to icelandic lamb. They roam and
>> eat the herbs on the moutain sides. The best lamb in the world!
>
> Well the Welsh would argue with you there.
>
> But I would expect Icelandic to be good

Absolutely outstanding. Very difficult to get outside of iceland. Do the
welsh export a lot of lamb? I would be up for the challenge to compare it
with icelandic.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 02/12/2024 14:06, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/12/2024 20:40, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:42:05 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only poison in them was lead pellets and you spit those out.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/toxic-montana-lakes-kills-
>>>> hundreds-and-maybe-thousands-snow-geese-180961356/
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't want to dine on one of those geese.
>>>
>>> I think the fact that they were dead floating on a lake might be a clue.
>>>
>>> In London a woman was seriously injured by a dead duck falling on her head
>>>
>>> I was standing by my car one day when a pigeons fell out of the sky. It
>>> wasn't dead, but when I came back it had died.
>>>
>>> One tends to avoid eating such.
>>>
>>> Rabbits that are dying from myxomatosis happen in some years, and
>>> apparently the meat is edible, but not much eats it
>>>
>>
>> What about roadkill? Did you ever try?
>
> Not bunnies
> Eaten pheasant and deer
>
> Both V good

I guess the trick is to find fresh roadkill.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:06:56 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> What about roadkill? Did you ever try?
>
> There is a diner in Utah that caters to truckers. A sign behind the
> counter says 'You kill it, we grill it'

Really? Fascinating! Would never have thought that it would be legal
anywhere in the world, especially not in a restaurant setting. On the
other hand, with all the environmental hysteria going on, maybe this is a
trend? ;)

> Harvesting roadkill in this state is legal with one provision. You can't
> field dress the animal by the side of the road and have to take the whole
> thing and dress it at home.
>
> The closest I've come is skinning a mink I hit. That process is enough to
> convince you mink isn't edible.

A mink? But they are tiny! Was there anything left after you removed the
skin? I saw a mink once in the country side in sweden. He had a death wish
and tried to run out in front of my car, but I think he survived.

I also saw a weasel in a huge park close to where I live. He was confused,
because he had his winter clothing on, and it happened to be a day in the
winter without snow, so easy to spot him.

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 22:11:22 +0100
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> > I think chickens and turkeys that have have been bred to maximize
> > meat spoil the playing field.
>
> Ahh, ok, yes that makes sense.

See also the Red Delicious, the certified 100% *least* delicious apple
on the planet throughout *any* of our lifetimes...

On 25 Nov 2024 23:37:36 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> I have the media for Visual J++. It showed promise before it was
> kneecapped by Sun. imho C# is Java done right.

The downside to C# is that being MS's baby, as far as I've ever seen it
pretty much locks you into a Windows environment. Yes, technically Mono
is A Thing That Exists, but it's about as pleasant as the disease with
which it aptly shares a name. Java, whatever else you want to say about
it, is equally mediocre on any platform.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:02:09 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> Ever since C99 added // comments, I have seen zero reason to bother with
> C++.

That’s a very peculiar reason to prefer one language over another.

Block/inline comments are handy in languages like C and C++ which don’t
permit arguments to be specified by keyword. They let you write code like

const bool ok = dbus_connection_set_watch_functions
(
/*connection =*/ conn,
/*add_function =*/ add_watch,
/*remove_function =*/ remove_watch,
/*toggled_function =*/ toggle_watch,
/*data =*/ NULL,
/*free_data_function =*/ NULL
);

which helps keep long argument lists just that little bit more
comprehensible.

On 2024-12-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:02:09 -0800, John Ames wrote:
>
>> On 26 Nov 2024 19:31:56 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Early C++ was pretty awful. I understand iterators and other arcane
>>> bits have been cleaned up a lot but I have no need to use general C++.
>>> Arduino, Pico, and other microcontrollers use C/C++ but it's a limited
>>> subset of C++.
>>
>> Ever since C99 added // comments, I have seen zero reason to bother with
>> C++.
>
> They were a real improvement. Commenting out a block that already had a
> comment was painful. U think it was C99 that also allowed declaring a
> variable close to where you were using it rather than a laundry list at
> the head of a function.

Best way to comment out stuff like that is to enclose it in a pair of
#if 0
...
#endif

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:21:29 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> Java, whatever else you want to say about it, is equally mediocre on any
> platform.

Not to mention it is the Intellectual Property of a notoriously litigious
company, desperate to monetize it in any way it can.

Which is why Google is promoting Kotlin, now.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 02:41:14 -0500
"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> Note though ... almost NO compu-geeks these days know ASM.

Very much depends on the communities you hang out in. It's certainly
nowhere near as ubiquitous as it used to be, but quite a few geeks out
there at least dabble with it for fun.

On 2024-12-02, Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> wrote:

> On 2024-12-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:02:09 -0800, John Ames wrote:
>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2024 19:31:56 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Early C++ was pretty awful. I understand iterators and other arcane
>>>> bits have been cleaned up a lot but I have no need to use general C++.
>>>> Arduino, Pico, and other microcontrollers use C/C++ but it's a limited
>>>> subset of C++.
>>>
>>> Ever since C99 added // comments, I have seen zero reason to bother with
>>> C++.
>>
>> They were a real improvement. Commenting out a block that already had a
>> comment was painful. U think it was C99 that also allowed declaring a
>> variable close to where you were using it rather than a laundry list at
>> the head of a function.
>
> Best way to comment out stuff like that is to enclose it in a pair of
> #if 0
> ...
> #endif

To make it stand out better (and be easier to search for), I use

#ifdef DELETE_THIS

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 13:19:38 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 22:11:22 +0100 D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>> > I think chickens and turkeys that have have been bred to maximize
>> > meat spoil the playing field.
>>
>> Ahh, ok, yes that makes sense.
>
> See also the Red Delicious, the certified 100% *least* delicious apple
> on the planet throughout *any* of our lifetimes...

Yeah, but they last forever...

https://web.archive.org/web/20180824070017/https:/www.nytimes.com/
2000/11/04/us/perfect-apple-pushed-growers-into-debt.html

The Red Delicious almost wiped out the Washington apple industry. They'd
went all in on the cultivar and when the consumers finally decided the
apple sucks they were in trouble. Did they learn? Hell, no.

https://www.seriouseats.com/how-honeycrisp-apples-went-from-marvel-to-
mediocre-8753117

Long story, but they then jumped on Honeycrisps. The apples weren't bred
to grow in Washington's climate nor were they meant to be a year around
commodity apple.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 21:40:48 +0100, D wrote:

> A mink? But they are tiny! Was there anything left after you removed the
> skin? I saw a mink once in the country side in sweden. He had a death
> wish and tried to run out in front of my car, but I think he survived.

I had no intention of eating it but after I realized what I had hit I
wanted to tan the hide and give my girlfriend a mink. This was in the '60s
before fur became anathema. Mink are in the Mustelidae family which have a
common characteristic of anal scent glands. I never skinned a skunk but I
assume it would be a similar experience. Before DNA analysis, skunks were
included in the family ultil they were moved to their own.

afaik, there are no skunks in Europe but you're not missing anything.
There are a pair of skunks that show up here sometimes looking for cat
food. Cats are smarter than dogs and ignore them and if I go out on the
deck the skunks politely waddle off.

> I also saw a weasel in a huge park close to where I live. He was
> confused,
> because he had his winter clothing on, and it happened to be a day in
> the winter without snow, so easy to spot him.

We have varying hares (snowshoe rabbits) that do the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_hare

One fall I was coming out of the woods on a full moon night when I saw one
in its white phase sitting on a black rock outcropping. He might as well
have had a flashing neon sign. I'd seen some cruising owls so I wished him
the best of luck.

I don't know what triggers the change. I was coming down from a 10,000'
peak and there wasn't even any snow there yet.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:21:29 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> The downside to C# is that being MS's baby, as far as I've ever seen it
> pretty much locks you into a Windows environment. Yes, technically Mono
> is A Thing That Exists, but it's about as pleasant as the disease with
> which it aptly shares a name. Java, whatever else you want to say about
> it, is equally mediocre on any platform.

Yes and no. I have the dotnet SDK on my Fedora machine and an app that
given an artist or track title queries the itunes database and returns
either other tracks by the artist or covers of the title by various
artists. The catch is it's command line. So far, there hasn't been a
successful GUI system although there have been other attempts than Mnoo.

Even on Windows 'dotnet build --runtime linux-x64' will build a package
that executes on Linux in a separate subdirectory otherwise it builds for
the current OS/architecture.

Long story which Microsoft managed to obduscate with their versioning
but .NET Core was a cross platform project while .NET Framework was
Windows. .NET Core's last version was 3.1 which overlapped with .NET
Framework 4.8. In 2020 they dropped the 'Core' so .NET 5.0 and above are
the descendants of .NET Core 3.1, not Framework. Confused?

ASP.NET became ASP.NET Core, although now it's usually just called
ASP.NET.

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/learn/aspnet/what-is-aspnet

And there you have the culmination of the plan, cross platform backends in
C#. I suppose if you're a masochist you could use F# or VB. It fits in
with WSL. The bet is on the cloud and Linux instances are cheaper than
Windows Server instances, even on Azure.

..NET MAUI supposedly targets Android, macOS, iOS, and Windows and is a
follow on to Xamarin which followed Mono. The noticeable omission is
Linux. I'm not sure what the long term business plan is but the one thing
MS doesn't seem to be interested in is building desktop apps for Linux.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 21:38:12 +0100, D wrote:

> I guess the trick is to find fresh roadkill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsqyOaPsP4

The deer does not go to waste. The old man loves deer too.

On 12/1/24 11:27 AM, Rich wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 01/12/2024 09:19, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>>   Anyway ... I don't see the Server-Lords keen on
>>>   any server-side 'web-PY'. They want YOUR box to
>>>   do all the hard work. In time they're gonna take
>>>   away even PHP. Just watch .....
>>
>> I am my own server lord.
>>
>> That solves everything
>> ...
>> ..or the entity purporting to be Larry Ellison on a random board who
>> said my ideas were 'interesting' and wanted me to contact him...
>>
>> Sure Larry. I came floating down the Danube yesterday on a water biscuit...
>>
>> Who do these people think they are? Who do these people think I am?
>
> Who do they think they are? Con-men (although /they/ might not think
> so).
>
> Who do they think you are? A potential mark. The con-man game is all
> about the law of averages. Try enough marks, and some will take the
> bait and you'll (the con-man) get a payoff. To secure enough payoffs
> they have to try a lot of potential marks to find the few that bite.
>
> But they don't 'know' you, anymore than they know the other 1,000
> potential marks they tested yesterday.

Exactly right.

Cons don't expect every, even most, to fall for
their BS - but ENOUGH will. They'll con yer granny,
they'll con yer sister, they'll con any and anyone.
Doesn't matter if they're rich or important - it's
all a matter of numbers. If even one in a hundred,
or a thousand, pay off ....

There was an absolutely tragic instance in the US
news about six months ago. Someone at a store noticed
a rather elderly woman on the phone, and busy transferring
large lots of money into a bitcoin-purchase machine. They
called a cop. The cop took the phone and went full tilt
against the (Indian/Pak ?) person on the other end - who
was adamant to put the victim back on the line so the
scam could continue. She'd been CONVINCED her bank
accounts were at risk somehow and her Only Salvation
was to transfer all she could into the BitCoin acct.
She REALLY believed it, they'd hooked her GOOD.

The cop ended the scam, but the woman had already
sent maybe half or more of her savings into
cyberspace, never to be seen again. MOST times
nobody notices these things in progress.

The last few years I was working there was a huge
increase in fake invoices/bills - and they LOOKED
legit, sometimes bore familiar names, sometimes
carried the name of actual companies. BUT - fake.

The HOPE was that the faux bills would just fly
under the radar, get paid without thinking. The
"familiar names" were clearly ripped-off by probing
e-mails. The easy ones to spot had VERY vague
reference to WHAT was allegedly purchased, but
with others it was stuff the org MIGHT have been
buying.

Tracked one down to an Australian mining-supply corp
claiming we'd bought some of their stuff - but our
org was USA. The company was legit, had a web page
and everything, but the BILL wasn't real, not even
from them at all. We did NOT buy 250 bags of concrete
mix from Oz.

Sometimes you have to dig into the e-mail source,
look at the links, even the JS, and research to
discover the evil. I'd kinda trained the staff
to detect a bad smell from e-mails. Alas the newer
guys don't even know what a JS is, much less how
to tell what it might DO. They expect commercial
malware detectors to catch it all. Nope ! Ain't !

But - the theory is "Not MY Fault - M$/Norton/Etc
should have caught it !" and the paychecks continue.

Oh, if an "invoice" comes as an Excel file - open it
with LibreOffice instead and do NOT enable scripts.
Found a bunch that sent stuff to eastern europe ...

On 12/1/24 3:47 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 04:19:07 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> Anyway ... I don't see the Server-Lords keen on any server-side
>> 'web-PY'. They want YOUR box to do all the hard work. In time they're
>> gonna take away even PHP. Just watch .....
>
> I see it going the other way: the only way online services can control
> your experience to their liking is if your machine becomes just a dumb
> terminal with minimal autonomous functionality.

Oddly, we're almost describing the same thing.

IMHO they *do* want you to be a *barely* competent
thin client ... "barely" is all that's required.
Even on a gigabit connection, modern CPUs with
not all that much RAM are "barely adequate" enough
to handle most web stuff.

Even a Pi4 is "barely competent enough" for web stuff.
The dirt-cheapest $300 laptops on Amazon - kinda low-
end/power i3 derivs (have a couple) are way good enough.
Have a few BeeLink/BMax boxes - again those kinda sub-i3s -
and they'll do most anything Web fairly snappy.

They do NOT want yer PC to be "overly competent"
because then you might have the zip to go around
their control somehow or be able to install good
software that'd detect their spy schemes in
real time.

So, there are kinda two takes on this ... but the
Overall Plan is to go back to client/server as
much as possible so they can charge by the byte
AND have fair control/spying over those bytes.

On 12/1/24 4:27 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 04:19:07 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> Well, Apache isn't HORRIBLE. It's also well-refined and
>> well-supported. NOT to be sneezed at. Newer stuff is smaller/faster
>> ... but what do you lose ?
>
> https://dev.to/emiliosp/nodejs-vs-apache-performance-battle-for-the-
> conquest-of-my-5c4n
>
> I haven't noticed that I lost anything using node.js. nginx is also taking
> market share from Apache.

The alts ARE getting much better. Didn't start out
like that however.

On 12/1/24 1:54 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 11:21:34 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> That was literally my first though when I saw the letter combination
>> KFC... yuck, the coating! But never thought about actually just removing
>> it, but it does seem like a waste to buy 0.5kg och chicken and removem
>> 0.25 kg of coating.
>
> But that's the good part! When we were dating my wife and I usually wound
> up a KFC sharing a bucket. On one road trip we found the worst KFC outlet
> -- in Kentucky. Also, eating KFC while driving isn't recommended. Greasing
> the steering wheel isn't recommended.
>
> I haven't had it or other deep fried chicken variants in decades. Tastes
> change.

KFC *is* tasty ! That's why it's worldwide now.

The GOOD part is that it's *still* quite tasty
if you peel off the coating/skin. Your cal count
and Grease Load drop by over 50% immediately.
The 11 herbs and spices still permeate the REAL
chicken part.

Easiest to peel if you refrigerate briefly first,
then microwave back to warmth.

The "crispy" is easier to peel than 'original', but
I usually buy original anyway.

Oh, beware "chicken nuggets" these days, inflation
has cause many to be more and more adulterated.
If it don't have bones, don't :-)

Oh, long LONG back, DID actually encounter Harlan
Sanders at a store opening. There was a delay, I'd
wandered around the lot to near the back door.
Oh My Gawd - you should have HEARD him cussing
the staff ... woulda made sailor blush !!! Learned
some useful new words that day :-)

On 12/1/24 2:02 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:36:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>
>> Europe is full of ideas for making shit food taste better.
>> Porcini mushrooms (ceps) taste meatier than meat.
>>
>> Spices add some sort of interest as do herbs, and garlic.
>>
>> However some foods are so shit that nothing works.
>
> US cuisine, particularly that derived from Mexico, is the result of trying
> to make meat well past its sell-by date edible.

That was the whole purpose of "spices" early on ...
why they became such a huge trade. "Taste" came
along later - hiding the smell of ROT was the
first priority. The pungent eastern spices did
that pretty well.

> During my trucking days I delivered a load of dry beans to a well known
> canned chili maker. The truck at the dock next to me was a reefer full of
> chicken. As we were being unloaded I talked to the trucker. His sad story
> was his refrigeration unit had broken down and the load had defrosted to
> the point where the original consignee refused it. The trucking company
> had found a way to get rid of the load so it wasn't a complete loss.
>
> I'm not a fan of canned chili and I definitely avoided that brand.

Aw ... I'm sure they managed to re-sell it all, as "school
lunches" :-)

On 12/2/24 9:02 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 01/12/2024 17:32, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/11/2024 20:54, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well pie it with bacon mushroom and a white wine white sauce. Or
>>>>>> curry the bugger.
>>>>>> Or buy a chicken from someone who keeps them around the back yard
>>>>>> eating worms and stuff. THEY have taste
>>>>>
>>>>> After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking
>>>>> upon. The wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll
>>>>> see how it compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good
>>>>> enough to get me to enjoy chicken breast.
>>>>>
>>>> I would concur with that. Chicken is cheap protein. Expecting it to
>>>> be more is nuts. All reptiles - and birds evolved from reptiles -
>>>> 'tastes like chicken'.
>>>
>>> I read that in terms of protein, breeding snakes is the Donald Trump
>>> of protein when it comes to price! A free business idea for this
>>> group could be to start a snake breeding farm and sell chicken:ish,
>>> protein at very good prices!
>>>
>>> Then there's also insect protein. I do not know how it compared with
>>> snake protein.
>>>
>> In S Africa Locusts and crickets were known as 'pParkhurst prawns'
>>
>> Edible if you wanted.
>
> Fascinating to think about that, given the enormous amount of locusts
> which plague them from time to time. Huge amounts of protein there, just
> for the taking!

Yea ... if you're down with locusts :-)

There IS a vocal segment that basically want to FORCE
everybody to eat insects almost entirely as "meat".

Sorry, I like my meat to have had a moo or cluck or
squeal .......

Oh, avoid deer/moose meat now ... there's a lot of
something like Mad Cow prion going around. NO cure
for that. Bear meat - only WELL done as they tend
to be full of parasites (bear meat isn't that good
anyway).