On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take it or
>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>
> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag reflex.
> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then I'd as
> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>

I feel your pain and I am in the same situation! =( There is nothing in
terms of meat, that I like less than chicken breast. Dry, rubbery and
sticks in my throat. Yuck!

Chicken thighs and chicken wings I can still eat though, as long as they
come with a good sauce and are crispy on the outside.

Oh, and chicken breast I can eat if it is shredded to tiny pieces in a
chicken soup. Then it works!

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:51:03 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> We will study Jordan Petersons future health with great interest!
>
> Mental? Did he mix in statins with the SSRIs, benzos, and ketamine?
>

Haha, no, I was thinking more of his carnivore diet. He only eats meat and
drinks water.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:52:16 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> You are a wise man, and also, a skilled cook!
>
> I was taught well. Both of my parents worked so whoever got home first
> started supper. One summer day when all the windows were open my mother
> walked down the driveway and yelled "Jesus Christ, Nels! Not onions
> again!" When in doubt, peel an onion.
>

;)

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 11/29/24 4:50 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/11/2024 08:21, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> On 11/28/24 5:04 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:12:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    But it was writ in the Magic Crystal - and I lost it down the
>>>>>>> commode
>>>>>>>    at a Stuckeys in 1978 ........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a wonder I didn't lose more than pascal down the commode. They
>>>>>> were a
>>>>>> southern thing when I was a kid and could look at a pecan pie without
>>>>>> going into insulin shock. By the time they spread I was past sugar as
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> essential food group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is interesting! Have you, like me, become increasingly sensitive to
>>>>> sugar as you grew older?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was young, I could drink enormous amounts of Coca Cola nad enjoy
>>>>> it. Today it is not longer possible. At most, I can drink 15-20 cl on a
>>>>> hot summer day, and that's about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same with chocolate. I can eat 3-4 small pieces, and then I'm full.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were
>>>>    totally ok, but after maybe 55 ......
>>>>
>>>>    "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.
>>>>
>>>>    Now it's mostly white-meat keto ...
>>>
>>> Oh I can eat red meat all right. All meat and all fish.
>>> Not much else though :-)
>>
>> Be happy! You are not missing anything! My wife tries to feed me vegetables
>> sometimes. That makes me cry.
>
>
> My granny despised "rabbit food" - stuck to the N.Euro
> boiled meat/potatoes almost entirely. Lived well to 99.

I am not surprised! I tell stories like this to my doctor if they are
careless enough to propose anything vegetarian. ;)

> I inherited her taste buds.
>
> Alas the few veggies I could stand - ones most kids HATE -
> I can't eat anymore because they have too much vitamin K.

In a pinch I can eat carrots, onions, cabbage, garlic, cucumber, bell
peppers. Leafy greens? Forget it! Also not a fan of potatoes except in
potato pancakes. Pickled vegetables are alright also.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:42:32 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> It was a *clever* series - well-writ with competent actors. Somewhere
>> between 'horror' and comedy with a good dose of 'quirk' and some
>> 'soap opera' thrown in.
>
> 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'? I made it through a couple of episodes but
> couldn't stand Gellar. I did like the 'Angel' spinoff -except when Gellar
> did a cameo. I watched stuff on Netflix DVDs so the order wasn't the same
> as when the series were made. I'd seen Boreanaz in 'Bones' and Acker in
> 'Person of Interest' and liked them, prior to 'Angel'. I knew Borenaz was
> in it but as soon as I heard her voice I knew it was Root even though I
> didn't know her name.
>
> Sometimes the order gets strange. In 'Deadwood' Gerald McRaney's character
> was the one you most wanted to see fed to the hogs, but turned up as a
> good guy in 'Jericho'.
>

Never liked Buffy, but Deadwood was good for 2 seasons!

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:31:33 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>
>> Onions + Garlic + Cabbage .... wow, you Really REALLY vont to be
>> alone
>
> For some reason I dug up Steve Earle's 'Me and the Eagle' on youtube
> tonight.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwWqKNQEQTw
>
>
> "Some mornings will find me up above the timberline
> Lonesome don't seem like much once you're this high
> When it's all said and done I usually find
> Me and the eagle are of the same mind
>
> Now when I was young I took me a wife
> But she never took to the high country life
> So now I'm alone I don't really mind
> But her name echoes down form the canyon sometimes"
>
> When I talked to my ex Wednesday she said she'd lined up her favorite
> restaurant to have a turkey dinner delivered at 12 noon by DoorDash or
> something. No cabbage or onions and she told them to skip the wine and
> pumpkin pie. (Type I diabetes) My and the eagle don't care for the big
> city life.
>

Sounds very idyllic! Personally I'm stuck in Babylon, because I cannot
find a plot that is remote enough, with surroundings I like. =/

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/11/2024 00:12, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take it or
>>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>>
>> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
>> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag reflex.
>> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then I'd as
>> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>>
> Factory farm reared chicken is pretty tasteless. Round here get a lot of game
> birds so I eat those. Also farmed duck is ok.

Duck and ptarmigans are good! I suspect I would also like swans, but never
had the chance to try.

On 30/11/2024 10:52, D wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take it or
>>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>>
>> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
>> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag reflex.
>> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then
>> I'd as
>> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>>
>
> I feel your pain and I am in the same situation! =( There is nothing in
> terms of meat, that I like less than chicken breast. Dry, rubbery and
> sticks in my throat. Yuck!
>
> Chicken thighs and chicken wings I can still eat though, as long as they
> come with a good sauce and are crispy on the outside.
>
> Oh, and chicken breast I can eat if it is shredded to tiny pieces in a
> chicken soup. Then it works!

Well pie it with bacon mushroom and a white wine white sauce. Or curry
the bugger.
Or buy a chicken from someone who keeps them around the back yard eating
worms and stuff. THEY have taste

--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

On 30/11/2024 11:06, D wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 30/11/2024 00:12, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take
>>>> it or
>>>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>>>
>>> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
>>> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag
>>> reflex.
>>> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then
>>> I'd as
>>> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>>>
>> Factory farm reared chicken is pretty tasteless. Round here get a lot
>> of game birds so I eat those. Also farmed duck is ok.
>
> Duck and ptarmigans are good! I suspect I would also like swans, but
> never had the chance to try.

Illegal here unless you are the king!

Tried goose? That's expensive and full of grease but nice tasting.

And if wild and shot (Canada goose) very very good.

--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/11/2024 10:52, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take it or
>>>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>>>
>>> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
>>> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag reflex.
>>> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then I'd as
>>> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>>>
>>
>> I feel your pain and I am in the same situation! =( There is nothing in
>> terms of meat, that I like less than chicken breast. Dry, rubbery and
>> sticks in my throat. Yuck!
>>
>> Chicken thighs and chicken wings I can still eat though, as long as they
>> come with a good sauce and are crispy on the outside.
>>
>> Oh, and chicken breast I can eat if it is shredded to tiny pieces in a
>> chicken soup. Then it works!
>
> Well pie it with bacon mushroom and a white wine white sauce. Or curry the
> bugger.
> Or buy a chicken from someone who keeps them around the back yard eating
> worms and stuff. THEY have taste

After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking upon. The
wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll see how it
compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good enough to get me to
enjoy chicken breast.

The pie idea is good though!

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/11/2024 11:06, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/11/2024 00:12, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 22:53:35 +0100, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sadly the wife cooks chicken for lunch, and in my case it is "take it or
>>>>> leave it", so I'll reluctantly take it.
>>>>
>>>> At one point boneless, skinless chicken breasts were inexpensive clean
>>>> protein. I ate enough of them that they now trigger sort of a gag reflex.
>>>> Every few months I'll get a CostCo rotisserie chicken but even then I'd
>>>> as
>>>> soon feed the breast meat to the cat.
>>>>
>>> Factory farm reared chicken is pretty tasteless. Round here get a lot of
>>> game birds so I eat those. Also farmed duck is ok.
>>
>> Duck and ptarmigans are good! I suspect I would also like swans, but never
>> had the chance to try.
>
> Illegal here unless you are the king!

WTF!? In what medieval country do you live? ;) I had it in iceland, my
grand father shot it and it was excellent!

> Tried goose? That's expensive and full of grease but nice tasting.

No, goose does sound like a good option too! It is very impopular here
where I live in eastern europe. =(

> And if wild and shot (Canada goose) very very good.

I often thought about shooting a canada goose myself. There are 1000s of
them in sweden, and 100s of them pooping in one of my favourite parks. I
do wonder how full of poisons they are though? If they were clean, trying
to kill a bird or two at night would be nice for me, and nice for the
park! ;)

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:30:35 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I learnt to tolerate [Apache, MySQL and PHP] as sufficient for the job I
> wanted them to do.

Apache and MySQL are great. Luckily you don’t need to use them with PHP.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:54:31 +0100, D wrote:

> After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking upon. The
> wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll see how it
> compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good enough to get me to
> enjoy chicken breast.

It will probably taste like -- chicken.

> The pie idea is good though!

A pie would be a lot of work but it did remind me a chicken a la king. I
haven't had it in ages but iirc it was edible.

My goto for tasteless stuff like chicken, tilapia, or rockfish is a
generous dollop of Mae Ploy's curry paste, red, yellow, or green depending
on what's in the reefer and a can of coconut milk.

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:56:30 +0100, D wrote:

> No, goose does sound like a good option too! It is very impopular here
> where I live in eastern europe. =(

After much pleading I convinced my mother to cook a Christmas goose. Once.
I loved the crispy skin on duck but the goose was beyond the pale.

I could talk her into making stuff I'd read about in some book like
Yorkshire pudding but they were usually one-offs.

On 11/30/24 1:22 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 00:19:28 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/24 4:42 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 05:06:58 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Python] isn't REALLY meant for interactive web apps.
>>>
>>> There are quite a few frameworks for using Python to do exactly that.
>>
>> Yea, sort of, but they seem kinda clunky work-arounds to me.
>
> Really? Which ones would you describe that way? Work-arounds for what?

Server-side, PHP is about all that's properly
supported. The Server-Lords don't like even that,
uses up too many cycles. They'd LIKE to see all
the hard work done on YOUR box instead. That's
what JS does.

As such, you really won't find any straight-up
Python based server-side web interpreters. What
exists are ALL sort of kludges, some evoking
PHP to get things done.

And how much longer for even PHP ?

It's money, it's politics. In the END expect
Joe User to LOSE now that everything is going
back to the old client/$erver model.

On 11/30/24 8:09 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:54:31 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking upon. The
>> wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll see how it
>> compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good enough to get me to
>> enjoy chicken breast.
>
> It will probably taste like -- chicken.
>
>> The pie idea is good though!
>
> A pie would be a lot of work but it did remind me a chicken a la king. I
> haven't had it in ages but iirc it was edible.
>
> My goto for tasteless stuff like chicken, tilapia, or rockfish is a
> generous dollop of Mae Ploy's curry paste, red, yellow, or green depending
> on what's in the reefer and a can of coconut milk.

Oh well, that's Older Age. Try a generous
sprinkle of Cayenne pepper and maybe a few
other spices. Makes tasteless less tasteless.

It is difficult to get the white-meat keto stuff
to taste like much of anything. I know very much.
But, the diet DOES become necessary. However
there is no reason it has to be gastronomic
atheism, sensory armageddon. It CAN be kinda
pepped-up for a very low price. Learn yer
spices. Peppers, look into mustard-seed ...

On 11/29/24 4:50 PM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 29/11/2024 08:21, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>> On 11/28/24 5:04 AM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:12:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>    But it was writ in the Magic Crystal - and I lost it down the
>>>>>> commode
>>>>>>    at a Stuckeys in 1978 ........
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a wonder I didn't lose more than pascal down the commode. They
>>>>> were a
>>>>> southern thing when I was a kid and could look at a pecan pie without
>>>>> going into insulin shock. By the time they spread I was past sugar
>>>>> as an
>>>>> essential food group.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is interesting! Have you, like me, become increasingly
>>>> sensitive to sugar as you grew older?
>>>>
>>>> When I was young, I could drink enormous amounts of Coca Cola nad
>>>> enjoy it. Today it is not longer possible. At most, I can drink
>>>> 15-20 cl on a hot summer day, and that's about it.
>>>>
>>>> Same with chocolate. I can eat 3-4 small pieces, and then I'm full.
>>>
>>>
>>>    I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were
>>>    totally ok, but after maybe 55 ......
>>>
>>>    "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.
>>>
>>>    Now it's mostly white-meat keto ...
>>
>> Oh I can eat red meat all right. All meat and all fish.
>> Not much else though :-)
>
> Be happy! You are not missing anything! My wife tries to feed me
> vegetables sometimes. That makes me cry.

GAAACK !!! Rabbit-Food Sux.

My granny knew it - yet lived well to 99.
Apparently I inherited her taste buds :-)

Humans quest for MEAT ... red or white ...
fowl or mastodon.

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 03:39:53 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 11/30/24 1:22 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 00:19:28 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/29/24 4:42 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 05:06:58 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [Python] isn't REALLY meant for interactive web apps.
>>>>
>>>> There are quite a few frameworks for using Python to do exactly that.
>>>
>>> Yea, sort of, but they seem kinda clunky work-arounds to me.
>>
>> Really? Which ones would you describe that way? Work-arounds for what?
>
> Server-side, PHP is about all that's properly supported.

Which is not answering the question.

> As such, you really won't find any straight-up Python based
> server-side web interpreters.

The usual Python implementation works just fine.

> What exists are ALL sort of kludges, some evoking PHP to get things
> done.

Never encountered any such thing. Can you give examples of such “kludges”?

On 11/30/24 5:57 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/24 4:50 PM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/11/2024 08:21, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>> On 11/28/24 5:04 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:12:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    But it was writ in the Magic Crystal - and I lost it down the
>>>>>>>> commode
>>>>>>>>    at a Stuckeys in 1978 ........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a wonder I didn't lose more than pascal down the commode.
>>>>>>> They were a
>>>>>>> southern thing when I was a kid and could look at a pecan pie
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> going into insulin shock. By the time they spread I was past
>>>>>>> sugar as an
>>>>>>> essential food group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is interesting! Have you, like me, become increasingly
>>>>>> sensitive to sugar as you grew older?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was young, I could drink enormous amounts of Coca Cola nad
>>>>>> enjoy it. Today it is not longer possible. At most, I can drink
>>>>>> 15-20 cl on a hot summer day, and that's about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same with chocolate. I can eat 3-4 small pieces, and then I'm full.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were
>>>>>    totally ok, but after maybe 55 ......
>>>>>
>>>>>    "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Now it's mostly white-meat keto ...
>>>>
>>>> Oh I can eat red meat all right. All meat and all fish.
>>>> Not much else though :-)
>>>
>>> Be happy! You are not missing anything! My wife tries to feed me
>>> vegetables sometimes. That makes me cry.
>>
>>
>>  My granny despised "rabbit food" - stuck to the N.Euro
>>  boiled meat/potatoes almost entirely. Lived well to 99.
>
> I am not surprised! I tell stories like this to my doctor if they are
> careless enough to propose anything vegetarian. ;)
>
>>  I inherited her taste buds.
>>
>>  Alas the few veggies I could stand - ones most kids HATE -
>>  I can't eat anymore because they have too much vitamin K.
>
> In a pinch I can eat carrots, onions, cabbage, garlic, cucumber, bell
> peppers. Leafy greens? Forget it! Also not a fan of potatoes except in
> potato pancakes. Pickled vegetables are alright also.

I have an odd genetic mutation - can't eat anything
with vitamin K. That's gonna be for the duration.

Alas most other kinds of rabbit food are almost
entirely STARCH - which is also not good.

Anyway, as I said to another, SPICES can turn a
mostly white-meat keto diet into something not
so dismal. The senses can be fooled - see
savory in what's not very savory.

Oh ... try KFC ... just chill and peel off all
the greasy greasy skin/coating. STILL quite good.

On 11/30/24 1:53 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 00:16:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> Of course to do server-side the server has to have a Py/'webPY'
>> interpreter running. They all have PHP, 'legacy', but the server
>> lords REALLY don't love having to take the burden so I wonder how
>> many would install a Py equiv.
>
> Well, when you're running the server... Ubuntu seems to come with Apache
> but I think the only thing worse is IIS. http://localhost on Fedora comes
> up with a Fedora webserver page. Apparently it's Apache with some secret
> sauce.
>
> Back when LAMP was a big thing I stopped at the 'L'. I don't like Apache,
> MySQL, or PHP.

Well, Apache isn't HORRIBLE. It's also well-refined and
well-supported. NOT to be sneezed at. Newer stuff is
smaller/faster ... but what do you lose ?

There IS advantage in "standard" - at least to a point.

LAMP, well, it Just Works. Not the theoretical best,
but, again, "standard".

Anyway ... I don't see the Server-Lords keen on
any server-side 'web-PY'. They want YOUR box to
do all the hard work. In time they're gonna take
away even PHP. Just watch .....

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:54:31 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking upon. The
>> wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll see how it
>> compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good enough to get me to
>> enjoy chicken breast.
>
> It will probably taste like -- chicken.
>
>> The pie idea is good though!
>
> A pie would be a lot of work but it did remind me a chicken a la king. I
> haven't had it in ages but iirc it was edible.

This is the truth! But my wife almost always cooks at home, so from time
to time I reciprocate and surprise her with something. Maybe a chicken
pie!

> My goto for tasteless stuff like chicken, tilapia, or rockfish is a
> generous dollop of Mae Ploy's curry paste, red, yellow, or green depending
> on what's in the reefer and a can of coconut milk.

This is good advice! You should stop by rec.food.cooking sometimes. Plenty
of political discussions and occasionally food discussions too! ;)

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 21:56:30 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> No, goose does sound like a good option too! It is very impopular here
>> where I live in eastern europe. =(
>
> After much pleading I convinced my mother to cook a Christmas goose. Once.
> I loved the crispy skin on duck but the goose was beyond the pale.

What was wrong with the goose? I saw a video on youtube where they cooked
swan, and it was quite tough meat.

> I could talk her into making stuff I'd read about in some book like
> Yorkshire pudding but they were usually one-offs.
>

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 11/29/24 4:50 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/11/2024 08:21, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>> On 11/28/24 5:04 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:12:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    But it was writ in the Magic Crystal - and I lost it down the
>>>>>>> commode
>>>>>>>    at a Stuckeys in 1978 ........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a wonder I didn't lose more than pascal down the commode. They
>>>>>> were a
>>>>>> southern thing when I was a kid and could look at a pecan pie without
>>>>>> going into insulin shock. By the time they spread I was past sugar as
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> essential food group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is interesting! Have you, like me, become increasingly sensitive to
>>>>> sugar as you grew older?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was young, I could drink enormous amounts of Coca Cola nad enjoy
>>>>> it. Today it is not longer possible. At most, I can drink 15-20 cl on a
>>>>> hot summer day, and that's about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same with chocolate. I can eat 3-4 small pieces, and then I'm full.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were
>>>>    totally ok, but after maybe 55 ......
>>>>
>>>>    "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.
>>>>
>>>>    Now it's mostly white-meat keto ...
>>>
>>> Oh I can eat red meat all right. All meat and all fish.
>>> Not much else though :-)
>>
>> Be happy! You are not missing anything! My wife tries to feed me vegetables
>> sometimes. That makes me cry.
>
>
> GAAACK !!! Rabbit-Food Sux.
>
> My granny knew it - yet lived well to 99.
> Apparently I inherited her taste buds :-)
>
> Humans quest for MEAT ... red or white ...
> fowl or mastodon.
>

This is the truth! Your granny has become yet another argument I throw at
my wife when she tries! ;)

On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 11/30/24 5:57 AM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/29/24 4:50 PM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/11/2024 08:21, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/28/24 5:04 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:12:47 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    But it was writ in the Magic Crystal - and I lost it down the
>>>>>>>>> commode
>>>>>>>>>    at a Stuckeys in 1978 ........
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a wonder I didn't lose more than pascal down the commode. They
>>>>>>>> were a
>>>>>>>> southern thing when I was a kid and could look at a pecan pie without
>>>>>>>> going into insulin shock. By the time they spread I was past sugar as
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> essential food group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is interesting! Have you, like me, become increasingly sensitive
>>>>>>> to sugar as you grew older?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was young, I could drink enormous amounts of Coca Cola nad
>>>>>>> enjoy it. Today it is not longer possible. At most, I can drink 15-20
>>>>>>> cl on a hot summer day, and that's about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same with chocolate. I can eat 3-4 small pieces, and then I'm full.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm gonna say YES ... mass-quantities as a youth were
>>>>>>    totally ok, but after maybe 55 ......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    "Metabolic de-rating" perhaps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Now it's mostly white-meat keto ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh I can eat red meat all right. All meat and all fish.
>>>>> Not much else though :-)
>>>>
>>>> Be happy! You are not missing anything! My wife tries to feed me
>>>> vegetables sometimes. That makes me cry.
>>>
>>>
>>>  My granny despised "rabbit food" - stuck to the N.Euro
>>>  boiled meat/potatoes almost entirely. Lived well to 99.
>>
>> I am not surprised! I tell stories like this to my doctor if they are
>> careless enough to propose anything vegetarian. ;)
>>
>>>  I inherited her taste buds.
>>>
>>>  Alas the few veggies I could stand - ones most kids HATE -
>>>  I can't eat anymore because they have too much vitamin K.
>>
>> In a pinch I can eat carrots, onions, cabbage, garlic, cucumber, bell
>> peppers. Leafy greens? Forget it! Also not a fan of potatoes except in
>> potato pancakes. Pickled vegetables are alright also.
>
>
> I have an odd genetic mutation - can't eat anything
> with vitamin K. That's gonna be for the duration.
>
> Alas most other kinds of rabbit food are almost
> entirely STARCH - which is also not good.
>
> Anyway, as I said to another, SPICES can turn a
> mostly white-meat keto diet into something not
> so dismal. The senses can be fooled - see
> savory in what's not very savory.
>
> Oh ... try KFC ... just chill and peel off all
> the greasy greasy skin/coating. STILL quite good.
>

That was literally my first though when I saw the letter combination
KFC... yuck, the coating! But never thought about actually just removing
it, but it does seem like a waste to buy 0.5kg och chicken and removem
0.25 kg of coating. ;)

On the other hand, Mc D is always the saviour! My standard combo is one
double cheese burger and one regular hamburger. Nutritious, tasty and
everything that the body needs!

Sadly I am not allowed, by the wife (you start to see the pattern here) to
have Mc D more than every 3-4 weeks or so. ;)

On 30/11/2024 20:54, D wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>>
>> Well pie it with bacon mushroom and a white wine white sauce. Or curry
>> the bugger.
>> Or buy a chicken from someone who keeps them around the back yard
>> eating worms and stuff. THEY have taste
>
> After christmas, this is exactly the experiment I am embarking upon. The
> wife will buy a chicken from a free range farm, and we'll see how it
> compares. My bet is it will be better, but not good enough to get me to
> enjoy chicken breast.
>
I would concur with that. Chicken is cheap protein. Expecting it to be
more is nuts. All reptiles - and birds evolved from reptiles - 'tastes
like chicken'.

Free range costs more and tastes a little better, but for the same money
you could find a better bird to eat.

> The pie idea is good though!

Europe is full of ideas for making shit food taste better.
Porcini mushrooms (ceps) taste meatier than meat.

Spices add some sort of interest as do herbs, and garlic.

However some foods are so shit that nothing works.

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