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> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>> slight slide off his back.
>
> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.

Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D

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> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>
>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>
> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
> side.

So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)

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RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:09:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Probably, but the situations are not symmetric. He never would have said
>>> the reverse, though.
>>
>> The best humor is grounded in reality.
>
> Satire depends on truth. That's why Woke "comedy" is not funny. Their
> sophomoric humor only appeals to those gullible enough to believe their
> Woke lies.

Give us an example of "woke" comedy....

Is The Onion "woke" while The Babylon Bee is not?

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Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time
to reform.
-- Mark Twain

rbowman wrote:

> RonB wrote:
>>
>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>> slight slide off his back.
>
> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.

If he would have stepped-back and campaigned for the younger, more
capable Ron DeSantis, he could have gone-down as a great American.

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way you cola idiots bleat about it' - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

On 2024-06-11 8:20 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>> slight slide off his back.
>>
>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>
> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D

The belief that a politician should put the interests of the country and
its people ahead of those of foreigners.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-06-11 8:22 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>
>>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>>
>> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
>> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
>> side.
>
> So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)

To be honest, I would do away with parties altogether. All politicians
should be independent, and the people voting for them should be aware of
what John Smith, Joe Brown, James Martin, and Janice White stand for
before voting, rather than which party they ally with. This would also
discourage morons from voting because they would have no idea what the
differences between all of them are.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-06-11 8:22 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>
>>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>>
>> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
>> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
>> side.
>
> So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)

I want to add that I would want to make it difficult for politicians to
ally with one another and automatically give each other support for
certain policies. Policies should be read and scrutinized by individuals
before being implemented, not immediately and automatically pushed through.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-06-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>> slight slide off his back.
>>
>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>
> If he would have stepped-back and campaigned for the younger, more
> capable Ron DeSantis, he could have gone-down as a great American.

I'm no huge fan of DeSantis either.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-06-11, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>
>>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>>
>> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
>> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
>> side.
>
> So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)

It's pretty much a fact. They say different things at election time but,
when it comes to the Deep State, the Republicans and Democrats are in
lock-step with one another. They're all bought and paid for by the same
money. So all this partisanship bullshit is just part of the game — divide
and conquer.

--
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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-06-11, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-06-11 8:22 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>>
>>>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>>>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>>>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>>>
>>> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
>>> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
>>> side.
>>
>> So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)
>
> To be honest, I would do away with parties altogether. All politicians
> should be independent, and the people voting for them should be aware of
> what John Smith, Joe Brown, James Martin, and Janice White stand for
> before voting, rather than which party they ally with. This would also
> discourage morons from voting because they would have no idea what the
> differences between all of them are.

Agreed.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-06-11, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-06-10 11:18 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-06-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [*] I remember reading Scott Adam's book that ended with
>>>>> the chapter on "affirmations". Sometimes that guy isn't
>>>>> all there.
>>>
>>> He's a comedic genius, though.
>>>
>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic dropped by
>>>> many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>
>>> Reverse the races, and he'd still have his job.
>>
>> Don't you love the way the "cancel culture-ists" celebrate shutting down
>> free speech, while simultaneously accusing Trump and his followers of
>> "attacking the Constitution."
>>
>> Hypocrisy is strong in the Woke Cultists.
>
> Free speech is only acceptable if it echoes whatever they believe.

Like the Soviet Union. "You're free to say what we tell you to say."

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-06-11, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:09:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably, but the situations are not symmetric. He never would have said
>>>> the reverse, though.
>>>
>>> The best humor is grounded in reality.
>>
>> Satire depends on truth. That's why Woke "comedy" is not funny. Their
>> sophomoric humor only appeals to those gullible enough to believe their
>> Woke lies.
>
> Give us an example of "woke" comedy....
>
> Is The Onion "woke" while The Babylon Bee is not?

No, The Onion used to be funny because it based its humor on elements of
truth and it wasn't one-sided. I don't know what they're like now.

The Babylon Bee gets really repetitious. I don't see their stuff much
anymore either.

If either becomes partisan and refuses to base their satire on reality,
they're simply not funny.

But when I'm talking about Woke so-called "comedy" I'm thinking more about
the late night, redundant, repeat-o-matic, talk show hosts. Their crap is
just stupid, not funny at all.

I think Craig Ferguson was the last funny, late night talk show host.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

> On 2024-06-11 8:20 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the
>>>> smallest slight slide off his back.
>>>
>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>
>> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>
> The belief that a politician should put the interests of the country and
> its people ahead of those of foreigners.

Gaaah!

"Foreigners"...like you?

So Trump, while in office, had a peaceful protest cleared
out with tear gas so he could stride majestically to a church
for a photo op, where he held up a Bible (upside-down), as if
he were some great religious leader.

How does that figure in to your calculus of what "Trumpism" is?
Because if it doesn't include Christian Dominionism, you're deluding
yourself.

(And random tagline is awesome!)

Oblinux:

Linux stable is still at version 6.9.3. Seems to be a good
kernel release (knock on wood).

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OS: Linux 6.9.3 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
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On 2024-06-11 9:11 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-06-11, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-06-10 11:18 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [*] I remember reading Scott Adam's book that ended with
>>>>>> the chapter on "affirmations". Sometimes that guy isn't
>>>>>> all there.
>>>>
>>>> He's a comedic genius, though.
>>>>
>>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic dropped by
>>>>> many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>>
>>>> Reverse the races, and he'd still have his job.
>>>
>>> Don't you love the way the "cancel culture-ists" celebrate shutting down
>>> free speech, while simultaneously accusing Trump and his followers of
>>> "attacking the Constitution."
>>>
>>> Hypocrisy is strong in the Woke Cultists.
>>
>> Free speech is only acceptable if it echoes whatever they believe.
>
> Like the Soviet Union. "You're free to say what we tell you to say."

I've watched people affiliated with the left-wing parties go from loving
to despising Israel on a dime. It's embarrassing how easy it is to get
them to change their mind as long as they believe that "the Party"
requires one position rather than another. They must be the inspiration
for the yelling cretins in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-11 8:20 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>>> slight slide off his back.
>>>
>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>
>> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>
> The belief that a politician should put the interests of the country and
> its people ahead of those of foreigners.

:-D That's just pandering to the yokels.

The only interests Trump cares about are his own interests.

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also a terrible betrayal that lay within me like a Merle Haggard song at a
French restaurant. [...]

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-11 8:22 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-10 2:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 10:43:03 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I went to his site a few months ago (after his rant got his comic
>>>>> dropped by many newspapers). Mmmmmmkayyyy.
>>>>
>>>> He's on X and can be interesting. In 2016 he predicted Trump would win
>>>> based on his use of media and framing. At that time my impression was he
>>>> was neutral, not taking a side. He is not on the fence these days.
>>>
>>> Given what he's seen the Democrats and their allies do over the last
>>> decade, I don't blame him for being disgusted and moving away from that
>>> side.
>>
>> So you are not an advocate of the "Uniparty" theory? :-)
>
> To be honest, I would do away with parties altogether. All politicians
> should be independent, and the people voting for them should be aware of
> what John Smith, Joe Brown, James Martin, and Janice White stand for
> before voting, rather than which party they ally with. This would also
> discourage morons from voting because they would have no idea what the
> differences between all of them are.

I pretty much agree with that.

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On 2024-06-11 11:16 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-11 8:20 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>>>> slight slide off his back.
>>>>
>>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>>
>>> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>>
>> The belief that a politician should put the interests of the country and
>> its people ahead of those of foreigners.
>
> :-D That's just pandering to the yokels.
>
> The only interests Trump cares about are his own interests.

Honestly, a lot of people would agree with you. My question is whether
you believe that because you have concrete examples to cite or whether
because the media told you to. I am a fan of David Knight who points to
specific examples of how he didn't fit the bill as a conservative
president, but he's a libertarian so you know that no one would ever
make him happy.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2024-06-10 11:18 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>
>> Don't you love the way the "cancel culture-ists" celebrate shutting down
>> free speech, while simultaneously accusing Trump and his followers of
>> "attacking the Constitution."
>>
>> Hypocrisy is strong in the Woke Cultists.
>
>Free speech is only acceptable if it echoes whatever they believe.

You mean like how people want Fauci jailed for trying to save us, from
a pandemic? Derp.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 08:20:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>> slight slide off his back.
>>
>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>
> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D

Yeah, that is a problem. There's been that discontent since the Tea Party
days that the GOP doesn't have anything to offer and the Democrats are
completely off the rails. Trump is the none-of-the-above answer to the
usual selection of GOP hacks. Unfortunately he was a major disappointment
in office but he's still talking a good game.

There is also the good old American love of the underdog.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 07:27:17 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>> slight slide off his back.
>>
>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>
> If he would have stepped-back and campaigned for the younger, more
> capable Ron DeSantis, he could have gone-down as a great American.

I think DeSantis would be a hard sell. Trump should have been grooming his
successor but I have no idea who that would be.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:16:45 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> I've watched people affiliated with the left-wing parties go from loving
> to despising Israel on a dime. It's embarrassing how easy it is to get
> them to change their mind as long as they believe that "the Party"
> requires one position rather than another. They must be the inspiration
> for the yelling cretins in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

It is reminiscent of the severe whiplash in CPUSA members as the word came
down in what they believed. The far right has a problem too. They've been
concerned about the influence of AIPAC and other groups and the amount of
aid given to Israel for decades. otoh, unlike the confused Fags for Gaza
types, they hate the Moslems too.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-11 11:16 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-11 8:20 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>>>>> slight slide off his back.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>>>
>>> The belief that a politician should put the interests of the country and
>>> its people ahead of those of foreigners.
>>
>> :-D That's just pandering to the yokels.
>>
>> The only interests Trump cares about are his own interests.
>
> Honestly, a lot of people would agree with you. My question is whether
> you believe that because you have concrete examples to cite or whether
> because the media told you to.

Well, any source one gets information from, if not scientific or otherwise
official, can be considered "the media". They all have an agenda, which forces
one to try to correlate multiple media.

After awhile, you can get a sense of when some article is trustworthy,
incomplete, or batshit crazy. For the mainstream media (not including Fox
News), the constant incompleteness is what drives me ape.

> I am a fan of David Knight who points to
> specific examples of how he didn't fit the bill as a conservative
> president, but he's a libertarian so you know that no one would ever
> make him happy.

I don't think anyone can ever pin Trump down. He does/says whatever is
expedient for him at any given moment, even if radically different from
his past actions/statements; he's a weather vane. Plus, he tends to
go off on unhinged tangents.

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rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 08:20:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:12:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>>> slight slide off his back.
>>>
>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>
>> Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>
> Yeah, that is a problem. There's been that discontent since the Tea Party
> days that the GOP doesn't have anything to offer and the Democrats are
> completely off the rails.

Nah, I don't agree about off-the-rails.

> Trump is the none-of-the-above answer to the
> usual selection of GOP hacks. Unfortunately he was a major disappointment
> in office but he's still talking a good game.

:-D He's full of shit.

> There is also the good old American love of the underdog.

The polls seem to indicate Biden is the underdog.

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rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 07:27:17 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Trump should learn when NOT to talk. He'll never let even the smallest
>>>> slight slide off his back.
>>>
>>> Coulter got it right -- what we need is Trumpism without Trump.
>>
>> If he would have stepped-back and campaigned for the younger, more
>> capable Ron DeSantis, he could have gone-down as a great American.
>
> I think DeSantis would be a hard sell. Trump should have been grooming his
> successor but I have no idea who that would be.

Ivanka.

:-D

--
So she went into the garden to cut a cabbage leaf to make an apple pie;
and at the same time a great she-bear, coming up the street pops its head
into the shop. "What! no soap?" So he died, and she very imprudently
married the barber; and there were present the Picninnies, and the Grand
Panjandrum himself, with the little round button at top, and they all
fell to playing the game of catch as catch can, till the gunpowder ran
out at the heels of their boots.
-- Samuel Foote

On 2024-06-11 3:38 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 10:16:45 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> I've watched people affiliated with the left-wing parties go from loving
>> to despising Israel on a dime. It's embarrassing how easy it is to get
>> them to change their mind as long as they believe that "the Party"
>> requires one position rather than another. They must be the inspiration
>> for the yelling cretins in Nineteen Eighty-Four.
>
> It is reminiscent of the severe whiplash in CPUSA members as the word came
> down in what they believed. The far right has a problem too. They've been
> concerned about the influence of AIPAC and other groups and the amount of
> aid given to Israel for decades. otoh, unlike the confused Fags for Gaza
> types, they hate the Moslems too.

The only position conservatives should have is "what is best for the
people in our country?" Honestly, to Hell with Israel. They've received
a ton of aid for a long time; it's time for them to handle things on
their own, especially since they act as though they're already handling
things on their own.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.