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* Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
+* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?RonB
|+* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Chris Ahlstrom
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|+* Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Andrzej Matuch
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|| `* Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Andrzej Matuch
||  `- Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Joel
|`* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?candycanearter07
| +* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Diego Garcia
| |`- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?RonB
| +* Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Joel
| |+* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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| `- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?RonB
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+* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?rbowman
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| `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?rbowman
|  `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
|   `- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?rbowman
`* Re: Do Microsoft’sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? (was: Do Microsoft???sCopilot+ PCsTyrone
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 |`- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 | |`* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | | `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Stéphane CARPENTIER
 | |  `* Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Joel
 | |   `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | |    `* Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Joel
 | |     `- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | `* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? (was: Do Microsoft???sCopilot+ PCsAndrzej Matuch
 |  +* Re: Do Microsoft’sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? (was: Do Microsoft??sCopilot+ PCs Tyrone
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 |  |+* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? (was: Do Microsoft??sCopilot+ PCs Joel
 |  ||`* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Tyrone
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 |  || | `* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Andrzej Matuch
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 |  || |  |`* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Andrzej Matuch
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 |  || |  | `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 |  || |  |  +* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?rbowman
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 |  || |  |`* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Andrzej Matuch
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 |  || |  | || | |  ||| ||+- Re: Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 |  || |  | || | |  ||| ||`* Re: Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)Chris Ahlstrom
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 |  || |  | || | |  ||| ||  `- Re: Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)Chris Ahlstrom
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 |  || |  | || | |  ||| `* Re: ????Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)????Joel
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 |  || |  | || | |  |`* Re: Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)RonB
 |  || |  | || | |  `* Re: Audiophilia (was Re: Do Microsoft?s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?)chrisv
 |  || |  | || | `- Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 |  || |  `* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Stéphane CARPENTIER
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 |  || `* Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?rbowman
 |  |+* Re: Do MicrosoftsCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?DFS
 |  |`* Re: Do Microsoft’sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux?Stéphane CARPENTIER
 |  `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 `* Re: Do Microsoft’s Copilot+ PCs Require Linux?Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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Subject: Re: Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:34 UTC
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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:34:20 -0400
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:06:06 -0400, Joel wrote:
>> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>
>>>Ahlstrom: Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>>>
>>>Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
>>>
>>>Tariffs are soaring WWII style.
>>
>> As if that won't cost ourselves the money? It's bad enough that we let
>> them invest in us with the deficit, we're now going to pay the prices of
>> goods through the nose, just to pretend we can compete with China? This
>> is why Trump sucks on the economy, the righties like him,
>> the Republicans are OK with it all, but the Democrats are the ones who
>> are working it for the middle class.
>
>Democrats work for the middle class and blacks like the Republicans work
>for conservatives and evangelicals. They both work for the people who buy
>them their offices and to paraphrase George Carlin, it ain't us.

It's the perpetual problem, you have two fundamentally different
sides, and compromise is the only result over time, Bush cuts taxes
and Obama just rides it out, Trump cuts them again and Biden does new
spending without addressing the deficit, it's catching up with us. The
parties being so diametrically opposed makes it impossible to get
something coherent.

>For the record I think Jamaal Bowman is a massive waste of oxygen but who
>spent $15 million to primary him? That may be a hint for who actually
>calls the shots in our 'democracy'.

AIPAC destroyed him. It's a lesson in what goes on in politics.
People saying Biden is responsible for Gaza are ignoring what DJT did
in his term, with regard to Israel. The war has happened on Biden's
watch, sure, but who sent his slumlord son in law to the Golan
Heights? Not old Joe, that was TrumpHitler, he had the gall to go to
the Western Wall, as who he is. That's the reality we're living
under.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Bully Tools.
From: Relf
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Bowman: Shoveling snow is bad enough; i don't need to be shoveling ash.

I recently ordered this light weight plastic scoop:

42" Bully Tools, One-Piece Poly Scoop/Shovel with D-Grip Handle
https://www.amazon.com/Bully-Tools-92801-D-Grip-Handle/dp/B07W4S5562

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:22:41 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Mayor Richard J. "the Machine" Daley on the '68 convention: "The police
> aren't here to create disorder. They're here to preserve disorder."

Brandon Johnson may come up with some quotable quotes if it all turns to
crap but I think Lori Lightweight would have been even better for light
comedy. Johnson has already pissed off the important people.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-city-council-
ceasefire-resolution-israel-hamas-war/14389131/

Now all he has to do is look the other way and tell the cops to stand
down.

https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2024/04/11/dnc-protesters-chicago-
ceasefire-mayor-johnson

Subject: Re: Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
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> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:06:06 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>
>>>Ahlstrom: Good luck defining "Trumpism" :-D
>>>
>>>Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
>>>
>>>Tariffs are soaring WWII style.
>>
>>
>> As if that won't cost ourselves the money? It's bad enough that we let
>> them invest in us with the deficit, we're now going to pay the prices of
>> goods through the nose, just to pretend we can compete with China? This
>> is why Trump sucks on the economy, the righties like him,
>> the Republicans are OK with it all, but the Democrats are the ones who
>> are working it for the middle class.
>
> Democrats work for the middle class and blacks like the Republicans work
> for conservatives and evangelicals. They both work for the people who buy
> them their offices and to paraphrase George Carlin, it ain't us.
>
> For the record I think Jamaal Bowman is a massive waste of oxygen but who
> spent $15 million to primary him? That may be a hint for who actually
> calls the shots in our 'democracy'.

We have the best Congressmen money can buy.

--
Change your thoughts and you change your world.

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> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:48:27 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:
>
>> Ahlstrom: Trump is cracked.
>>
>> Earth is cracked.
>
> https://www.pnsn.org/volcanoes/mount-st-helens
>
> It's thinking about it. Shoveling snow is bad enough; i don't need to be
> shoveling ash.

DJT is the Mt. St. Helens of lies and insults.

A pyroclastic lahar of insanity.

--
The bay-trees in our country are all wither'd
And meteors fright the fixed stars of heaven;
The pale-faced moon looks bloody on the earth
And lean-look'd prophets whisper fearful change.
These signs forerun the death or fall of kings.
-- Wm. Shakespeare, "Richard II"

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:35:38 -0400, Joel wrote:

> You don't take NyQuil just for a cough, that's stupid. Don't people
> know anything about these medicines they're buying, FFS? NyQuil
> shouldn't even *exist*. It's not a safe product, it's for morons who
> just throw drugs at symptoms, without thought. Cough suppression is
> done by DXM, you don't need fuckin' APAP on top of it, and an
> antihistamine, JFC get a clue people.

What can I say? It was an excuse floated by a Biden supporter on X to
explain the space out. I'm sure if he really had a cold the White House
physician could have found a supply of the good stuff with
pseudoephedrine.

> Biden did OK on the merits but not on presentation. Trump won the
> debate because of presentation.

It's all about presentation. Biden always was a glib bullshitter if he
didn't go off on a tangent about Cornpop or unicorns so presenting as a
zombie was not a good thing.

My brother suffered from dementia and it was sad to see. He had good days
and bad days. Unlike Dr. Jill his wife kept him on a progressively shorter
leash.

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> On 2024-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:07:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <brevsnip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut Biden a little slack for having just completed a number of
>>>>>> meetings with world leaders across the world, but others won't.
>>>>>
>>>>> After a week of prep he should have been rested and loaded for bear. I
>>>>> didn't watch the debate but quite a few X posts had video clips. I watched
>>>>> a couple and really thought they must have been edited or faked somehow.
>>>>> They weren't.
>>>>
>>>> In 2020, Biden was able to withstand, his stuttering issue notwithstanding,
>>>> Trump's unchecked Gish gallop.
>>>>
>>>> In 2024, not so much.
>>>
>>> I didn't watch the debate but the clips I did see didn't look much different
>>> than Biden at various functions for at least the last year. I'm actually
>>> feeling a bit sorry for him at this point.
>>>
>>> Probably the most absurd part of it was when Trump and Biden (both around 80
>>> years old) started arguing about their freaking golf games. Good grief, grow
>>> up — at least try to stay focused.
>>>
>>> Probably the biggest insult to Biden was from Jill Biden at the
>>> "after-debate" "party?" (gathering?), when she says (loudly and
>>> patronizingly like Biden is third grader with learning disabilities) "You
>>> did a GOOD job, Joe." Is she his wife or his schoolmarm? (And this was
>>> after she had to lead him off the stage — couldn't someone in the Secret
>>> Service have taken care of that?)
>>>
>>> I tend to believe the Democrats knew this would happen and scheduled this
>>> debate very early so they would have time to try to convince Biden to quit.
>>> Nothing else makes sense.
>>>
>>> I know one thing. I'm not voting for either of these two.
>>
>> I kind of agree. Except I'll vote for Biden even if he is in hospice.
>> Trump is insane.
>
> He's a blustering idiot, but he dutifully does what his masters tell him to
> do. What decision did he make (as president) that makes you think he's
> "insane?"

His presidential decisions are a mixed bag, most of them misguided.
His insanity lies in this unhinged ALL-CAPS rants and the cockamamie
stories he tells at this rallies. Yes, he'll go along with Project 2025,
as long as he gets his cut.

> I know he did a lot better job of keeping us out of wars than has
> Biden — or, rather, Biden's handlers.

Under Trump, the number of drone assassinations exceeded those of Obama's.
Trump hung our Kurdish allies out to dry in Syria. Trump invited the Taliban to
Camp David. Trump left a big Afghanistan exit mess for Biden to deal with
(poorly). Trump would more actively support Israel and it's over-the-top
destruction in Gaza. He ain't no peace-maker.

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> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> > Biden did OK on the merits but not on presentation.
>>
>>Biden: "We finally beat Medicare"
>>
>>LMAO!
>
> He is the incumbent, he praised his record, that's par for the course.
> He has a pretty good record, really, the system has a way of making a
> Democrat president do the right things, mostly.
>
>> > Trump won the debate because of presentation.
>>
>>Trump: "If you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing
>>to do this. He said, we’ll put the baby aside and we’ll determine what
>>we do with the baby. Meaning, we’ll kill the baby."
>
> That part was weird, yeah. But Trump looked like a presidential
> figure, youthful compared to Biden.

It is pretty easy to appear to be a healthy loudmouth.

>>https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics/read-biden-trump-debate-rush-transcript/index.html
>>
>>Biden is just too old, and Trump is just too lying criminal lowlife.
>>
>>It's hard to believe either of them are candidates for President of our
>>great country.

I agree with DFS here.

The Founding Fathers would shit their breeches if they realized how
people would leverage their incomplete Constitution.

> It's just too much, yeah, why can't we put someone new up against
> Trump? Why must Biden be a two-term president?

--
You will contract a rare disease.

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> You don't take NyQuil just for a cough, that's stupid. Don't people
>> know anything about these medicines they're buying, FFS? NyQuil
>> shouldn't even *exist*. It's not a safe product, it's for morons who
>> just throw drugs at symptoms, without thought. Cough suppression is
>> done by DXM, you don't need fuckin' APAP on top of it, and an
>> antihistamine, JFC get a clue people.
>
>What can I say? It was an excuse floated by a Biden supporter on X to
>explain the space out. I'm sure if he really had a cold the White House
>physician could have found a supply of the good stuff with
>pseudoephedrine.

Pseudoephedrine is the correct thing, along with DXM, right,
antihistamines don't do anything useful, APAP is for pain.

>> Biden did OK on the merits but not on presentation. Trump won the
>> debate because of presentation.
>
>It's all about presentation. Biden always was a glib bullshitter if he
>didn't go off on a tangent about Cornpop or unicorns so presenting as a
>zombie was not a good thing.
>
>My brother suffered from dementia and it was sad to see. He had good days
>and bad days. Unlike Dr. Jill his wife kept him on a progressively shorter
>leash.

I don't think Biden has dementia. I think he's just elderly,
generally, he's not up to four more years.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:29:09 -0400, Joel wrote:

> It's just too much, yeah, why can't we put someone new up against Trump?
> Why must Biden be a two-term president?

Biden is not going to be a two term president. I don't know how the DNC is
going to pull it off but they will. They have about 6 weeks to do
something and something also involves sidelining Harris. The junior
varsity team come equipped with all sorts of baggage.

Fun times. I can't even hold my nose and check Oliver's box. I don't think
RFK will be on the ballot in this state even if he makes it on some. The
Greens aee on the ballot and I hate to say it but Stein might be the best
of a bad litter.

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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Biden did OK on the merits but not on presentation.
>>>
>>>Biden: "We finally beat Medicare"
>>>
>>>LMAO!
>>
>> He is the incumbent, he praised his record, that's par for the course.
>> He has a pretty good record, really, the system has a way of making a
>> Democrat president do the right things, mostly.
>>
>>> > Trump won the debate because of presentation.
>>>
>>>Trump: "If you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing
>>>to do this. He said, we’ll put the baby aside and we’ll determine what
>>>we do with the baby. Meaning, we’ll kill the baby."
>>
>> That part was weird, yeah. But Trump looked like a presidential
>> figure, youthful compared to Biden.
>
>It is pretty easy to appear to be a healthy loudmouth.

He has a unique power, it's fucked up, but true. Running an
80-something against him is likely to fail. I said all along I'd have
preferred Joe be a one-term president, a new Democrat to run this
year.

>>>https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics/read-biden-trump-debate-rush-transcript/index.html
>>>
>>>Biden is just too old, and Trump is just too lying criminal lowlife.
>>>
>>>It's hard to believe either of them are candidates for President of our
>>>great country.
>
>I agree with DFS here.
>
>The Founding Fathers would shit their breeches if they realized how
>people would leverage their incomplete Constitution.

The constitution is in shambles, with Dobbs and other things going on.
This is the time we were warned would come.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:21:02 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> I kind of agree. Except I'll vote for Biden even if he is in hospice.
> Trump is insane.

Go for the yellow dog... Commander has some sort of yellowish fur if they
haven't quietly put him down. Were I Joe I'd be worried if I saw a vet
coming.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> It's just too much, yeah, why can't we put someone new up against Trump?
>> Why must Biden be a two-term president?
>
>Biden is not going to be a two term president. I don't know how the DNC is
>going to pull it off but they will. They have about 6 weeks to do
>something and something also involves sidelining Harris. The junior
>varsity team come equipped with all sorts of baggage.

You dismiss Kamala, that quick?

>Fun times. I can't even hold my nose and check Oliver's box. I don't think
>RFK will be on the ballot in this state even if he makes it on some. The
>Greens aee on the ballot and I hate to say it but Stein might be the best
>of a bad litter.

Kennedy is a joke, Stein I would vote for in protest of Israel *IF*
the Republicans were not running DJT.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bully Tools.
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:42:18 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Bowman: Shoveling snow is bad enough; i don't need to be shoveling ash.
>
> I recently ordered this light weight plastic scoop:
>
> 42" Bully Tools, One-Piece Poly Scoop/Shovel with D-Grip Handle
> https://www.amazon.com/Bully-Tools-92801-D-Grip-Handle/dp/B07W4S5562

Good luck. One year I broke the handle on my snow shovel and all the
stores in town were sold out. I wound up with a grain scoop similar to
this:

https://www.amazon.com/AMES-COMPANIES-Aluminum-Grain-Scoop/dp/B00CAT5S2O

which is similar but in the traditional wood/aluminum construction. It got
me through the winter but it sucked for shoveling snow. The scoop is a
little narrow and the angle is wrong.

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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:54:17 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:48:27 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:
>>
>>> Ahlstrom: Trump is cracked.
>>>
>>> Earth is cracked.
>>
>> https://www.pnsn.org/volcanoes/mount-st-helens
>>
>> It's thinking about it. Shoveling snow is bad enough; i don't need to
>> be shoveling ash.
>
> DJT is the Mt. St. Helens of lies and insults.
>
> A pyroclastic lahar of insanity.

Joe Biden is the Grand Canyon of depravity. How low can you go?

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Ahlstrom: Trump is the Mt. St. Helens of lies and insults.

rBowman: Biden is the Grand Canyon of depravity. How low can you go?

I can pick my "knows" if I want to but REAL choices don't exist.

Don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
Joe Biden recently put 100% tariffs on electric vehicles from China.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:50:07 -0400, Joel wrote:

> You dismiss Kamala, that quick?

In a New York minute. This is a woman who stuck a toe in the water and
folded even before Iowa. She hasn't done well with the chores assigned to
her and when speaking off the cuff makes even less sense than Biden.

Gabbard would have been a much better choice but she pissed off the queen
bee and that's still death at the DNC.

> Kennedy is a joke, Stein I would vote for in protest of Israel *IF*
> the Republicans were not running DJT.

Stein manages to hit enough issues to piss many people off. I'd mentioned
Stein to a liberal lesbian acquaintance and got an unexpected amount of
vitriol. 'She's a VAXXER!'. Up until that point I didn't even know Stein
had taken a stand. This was pre-covid so it was a RFK style vaxxer.

It's all moot for me. For presidential elections the last time this state
went blue was in '92. No love for Clinton but Perot grabbed enough Bush
votes to let Clinton win. The time before that was when Goldwater lost in
one of the few instances I would call a landslide.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:15:04 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> The Founding Fathers would shit their breeches if they realized how
> people would leverage their incomplete Constitution.

The anti-Federalists had a good idea of how it was going to play out.
Don't forget it took ten amendments before it was ratified. Adams was a
Federalist and while the party didn't last long the Marshall court he
created set the precedent for the federal government to stick their nose
into everything under the commerce clause.

As Lysander Spooner said the constitution was either powerless to prevent
what the government became or was designed to create it. As soon as 'the
united states' became 'The United States' it was all over.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:21:09 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I don't think Biden has dementia. I think he's just elderly,
> generally, he's not up to four more years.

I'm not a doctor and can't diagnose Biden but the behavior he exhibits is
troubling. Referencing dead leaders is one thing but those moments where
he is out to lunch are something else.

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
From: Joel
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> You dismiss Kamala, that quick?
>
>In a New York minute. This is a woman who stuck a toe in the water and
>folded even before Iowa. She hasn't done well with the chores assigned to
>her and when speaking off the cuff makes even less sense than Biden.
>
>Gabbard would have been a much better choice but she pissed off the queen
>bee and that's still death at the DNC.

I find the idea, that Kamala is unqualified, to be blatant anti-black
racism. What is so lacking in her?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I can pick my "knows" if I want to.
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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 21:27:22 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Don't tax me, tax Chiiina.
> Joe Biden recently put 100% tariffs on electric vehicles from China.

There were also tariff increases on lithium batteries, solar cells,
semiconductors, rare earths, and other minerals. Let the trade wars begin.

Subject: Pick your side, grab some popcorn, & enjoy.
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Relf(me): Biden recently put 100% tariffs on electric vehicles from China.

rBowman: There were also tariff increases on lithium batteries, solar cells,
semiconductors, rare earths, and other minerals.

Let the trade wars begin.

Pick your side, grab some popcorn, & enjoy.

Subject: Re: Earth is cracked.
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On 2024-06-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:54:17 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:48:27 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahlstrom: Trump is cracked.
>>>>
>>>> Earth is cracked.
>>>
>>> https://www.pnsn.org/volcanoes/mount-st-helens
>>>
>>> It's thinking about it. Shoveling snow is bad enough; i don't need to
>>> be shoveling ash.
>>
>> DJT is the Mt. St. Helens of lies and insults.
>>
>> A pyroclastic lahar of insanity.
>
> Joe Biden is the Grand Canyon of depravity. How low can you go?

For Joe Biden I think you should be looking at the Mariana Trench.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On 2024-06-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-29, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:07:12 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <brevsnip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cut Biden a little slack for having just completed a number of
>>>>>>> meetings with world leaders across the world, but others won't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After a week of prep he should have been rested and loaded for bear. I
>>>>>> didn't watch the debate but quite a few X posts had video clips. I watched
>>>>>> a couple and really thought they must have been edited or faked somehow.
>>>>>> They weren't.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2020, Biden was able to withstand, his stuttering issue notwithstanding,
>>>>> Trump's unchecked Gish gallop.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2024, not so much.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't watch the debate but the clips I did see didn't look much different
>>>> than Biden at various functions for at least the last year. I'm actually
>>>> feeling a bit sorry for him at this point.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the most absurd part of it was when Trump and Biden (both around 80
>>>> years old) started arguing about their freaking golf games. Good grief, grow
>>>> up — at least try to stay focused.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the biggest insult to Biden was from Jill Biden at the
>>>> "after-debate" "party?" (gathering?), when she says (loudly and
>>>> patronizingly like Biden is third grader with learning disabilities) "You
>>>> did a GOOD job, Joe." Is she his wife or his schoolmarm? (And this was
>>>> after she had to lead him off the stage — couldn't someone in the Secret
>>>> Service have taken care of that?)
>>>>
>>>> I tend to believe the Democrats knew this would happen and scheduled this
>>>> debate very early so they would have time to try to convince Biden to quit.
>>>> Nothing else makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> I know one thing. I'm not voting for either of these two.
>>>
>>> I kind of agree. Except I'll vote for Biden even if he is in hospice.
>>> Trump is insane.
>>
>> He's a blustering idiot, but he dutifully does what his masters tell him to
>> do. What decision did he make (as president) that makes you think he's
>> "insane?"
>
> His presidential decisions are a mixed bag, most of them misguided.
> His insanity lies in this unhinged ALL-CAPS rants and the cockamamie
> stories he tells at this rallies. Yes, he'll go along with Project 2025,
> as long as he gets his cut.

What is Project 2025? WEF crap, or something else?

>> I know he did a lot better job of keeping us out of wars than has
>> Biden — or, rather, Biden's handlers.
>
> Under Trump, the number of drone assassinations exceeded those of Obama's.
> Trump hung our Kurdish allies out to dry in Syria. Trump invited the Taliban to
> Camp David. Trump left a big Afghanistan exit mess for Biden to deal with
> (poorly). Trump would more actively support Israel and it's over-the-top
> destruction in Gaza. He ain't no peace-maker.

You're going to blame Trump for Biden's screw up in Afghanistan now? That's
a stretch too far to go. I can't believe Trump would have just up and left
without any kind of tactical retreat or by abandoning our weapons there. This
has got to one of the stupidest things that Biden and the morons he put in
charge of our military ever did.

As for the Taliban, at least they were able to get rid of the opium trade in
Afghanistan (which thrived under "out" (the "Deep States'") watch).

As for the Kurds, Trump wanted to get us out of Syria. We had NO business
being there in the first place. Basically the Deep State told the Commander
and Chief, "no, we're not leaving." So much for the rule of law in our
country.

As for Israel, yeah, Trump is a champion Nut-Yahoo kiss-ass. But Biden tries
to have it both ways. We're pouring in the supplies while pretending to
oppose Israeli genocide. At least Trump is honest about his Israeli
butt-kissing tendencies.

Meanwhile Biden has gotten us to the brink of WWIII, simultaneously pissing
off both the Russians and the Chinese. We're supporting an unelected dictator
in Ukraine, while insuring that the enslaved Ukrainians fight for us down to
the last Ukrainian — in an insane war to "weaken Russia." Any coincidence
that Biden's son had a sweetheart deal in Ukraine, when Biden was
vice-president (emphasis on "vice.")

The reason Putin "must go" is because he told the Rothschild's to get lost
and reclaimed Russia's natural resources for the Russian people. That's
deadly for most countries. Look at Iraq, Hussein decided to abandon the
petrodollar. We went to war against him (even though he had been our ally in
our proxy war on Iran). Libya, ditto. Qaddafi was creating an African
currency based on gold and NOT the petrodollar. Again war. That's what our
country does, fights for our corporations and the Rothschild controlled
bankers.

Would Trump have done the same thing Biden did with Russia? Probably,
because he kowtows to the same masters. Trump thinks he could bluster Putin
into doing what he wants, but Putin does what's right for his people, unlike
our worthless politicians.

Sorry for rambling. But if you think Biden is any good (at all) you're
delusional. I have no such delusions about Trump.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Workstation Aesthetics
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 01:07:12 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I find the idea, that Kamala is unqualified, to be blatant anti-black
> racism. What is so lacking in her?

A functioning brain. Don't try that racist ploy because I give zero fucks.
How do you know it isn't anti-Tamil racism? Or even anti-Irish.

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