On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 04:08, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-10 04:09, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-09, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-01-09 03:40, RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:59:22 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're
>>>>>>>> thinking in terms of *bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole
>>>>>>>> group of people based on race.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But race doesn't exist. Or does it? The liberals are fine with giving a
>>>>>>> group of people special privileges based on race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Woke seem confused on that issue. Of course the Woke aren't having a
>>>>>> very good time right now, so they may a little constipated. Ford, McDonald's
>>>>>> and Walmart are the latest to drop (or curtail) the DEI BS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just talking about Ford with my wife yesterday. If I remember
>>>>> correctly, they were the _only_ American automotive company strong
>>>>> enough in 2008 not to require a bailout from the government. Since then,
>>>>> they have jumped on the electric vehicle train which has cost them a
>>>>> fortune since nobody wants those cars, at least not from them. Even
>>>>> worse, their F-150 has just gotten a recall affecting several hundred
>>>>> thousand vehicle, exacerbating the damage. I imagine that they'll be
>>>>> requiring government assistance very soon.
>>>>
>>>> They *were* the strongest... until they bought into the EV crap. Hopefully
>>>> they'll back out of that stupidity. How big is the "carbon footprint" that
>>>> is required to provide the electricity that these "climate conscience" cars
>>>> require? And what kid of "carbon footprint" cost is there in the batteries?
>>>> — (and they wear out in a few years and are too expensive to replace so the
>>>> car usually ends up in the junk yard). This "green products" push is just
>>>> another scam. Not to mention that most of the EV vehicles are about
>>>> worthless if you need to drive more than 120 miles.
>>>
>>> Important facts:
>>>
>>> 1. You have to flood wide areas of land to extract lithium. They have
>>> new ways of doing it, but they haven't yet been implemented.
>>> 2. Lithium is considered a rare metal, and there isn't enough of it to
>>> supply everyone with an electric car.
>>> 3. Charged to 100% and depleted to 0%, lithium batteries last about
>>> 1,000 charges.
>>> 4. The batteries in hybrid cars were charged between 25% to 30%, that is
>>> why they lasted longer.
>>> 5. Lithium is recycled at a rate of about 1%, the rest ends up in a
>>> landfill.
>>> 6. Electric cars themselves are not recycled because it is dangerous to
>>> do so. As a result, they too end up in landfills.
>>> 7. The grid in countries that produce a lot of electricity like Canada
>>> is insufficient to allow for everyone to have an electric car. You would
>>> need to add about a dozen nuclear generators to supply enough.
>>>
>>> Apparently, Israel has made the process of charging an electric vehicle
>>> less annoying by making drivers whose cars are depleted drive to a
>>> service station where their battery is replaced within a few minutes. I
>>> have yet to see that here.
>>
>> I'm a little bit confused about how they would be able to replace EV
>> batteries in a few minutes...
>>
>> Okay, I found some information about it... but, apparently, the Israeli
>> outfit that was doing it when belly-up in 2013, and Tessla's attempt at this
>> service ten years ago was unsuccessful. But maybe that's changing. No one is
>> mentioning how expensive it is to lease these batteries or use this service.
>>
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/lbsbusinessstrategyreview/2024/04/15/the-rebirth-of-ev-battery-swapping-services-and-why-their-time-is-now/
>
> Admittedly, it's possible that this service no longer exists. I got the
> story from my father-in-law who has Jewish friends who visit Israel
> regularly. I thought it was bullshit too until I saw the story that yes,
> such a thing exists/existed in Israel. To me, swapping batteries that
> way was impossible because the batteries are usually very complex and as
> big as the car, but I guess they figured out a way to do it differently.

Makes me wonder if they were using a specific car model. One designed for
this.

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On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> Inconvenient facts are always labled "misinformation" by the lying MSM.
>>
>>Yep, and I consider it inconvenient to continue reading their garbage
>>once it becomes clear that they are neither objective nor a reliable
>>source of information. If I'm going to be lied to, I might as well get
>>it from the CNC that I pay for with my taxes.
>
> Have you guys seen that Tampon Tim rant where he states that there is
> no freedom of speech when there is "misinformation" or "hate speech".
>
> With radical leftists deciding what those things are, of course. They
> might prosecute you for being critical of men who want to hang-out
> naked in the girls' locker room. "She's a woman with man's body, you
> transphobe!"

This whole bullshit practice of forcing girls to shower with men has got to
stop. And there are signs that it WILL stop.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 04:10, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently L.A. is burning because they quit making fire breaks on the hills
>>>> overlooking the city because "they interfered" with the migration of some
>>>> breed of mouse. And the water shortage is partly caused by the removal of
>>>> dams in north California. (That and they sent their "extra" fire equipment
>>>> to Ukraine.)
>>>
>>> 'Course, the fire chief is a lesbian whose main agenda is increasing
>>> "diversity" in fire fighters. Sheesh.
>>
>> California was almost a "paradise" when my dad moved their in the early 50s.
>> They've sure managed to screw that up in the following decades.
>
> Instead of beating the living Hell out of beatniks and variations of
> Communists, they tolerated them. Once Berkeley was taken over, it was
> downhill for the state.
>
> That said, I believe that there are a lot more conservatives in
> California than the election results suggest. These people don't believe
> in fair elections, and there is much reason to believe that there is
> rampant fraud there enabling the Democrats to stay in power even when
> the people want to get rid of them.

The main thing I'm worried about now is that another big batch of
Californians will move to Idaho. Which would be (mostly) okay (except they
drive the price of property way up) if they didn't try to export the same
politics that turned California into a shithole into Idaho.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:10:34 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2025-01-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently L.A. is burning because they quit making fire breaks on the
>>>>hills overlooking the city because "they interfered" with the migration
>>>>of some breed of mouse. And the water shortage is partly caused by the
>>>>removal of dams in north California. (That and they sent their "extra"
>>>>fire equipment to Ukraine.)
>>>
>>> 'Course, the fire chief is a lesbian whose main agenda is increasing
>>> "diversity" in fire fighters. Sheesh.
>>
>> California was almost a "paradise" when my dad moved their in the early
>> 50s.
>> They've sure managed to screw that up in the following decades.
>
> Compare the population in the '50s with today's. Like Las Vegas and
> Phoenix the city can only exist with artificial life support and if the
> politicians spend money on more visible things to get elected while
> letting the infrastructure deteriorate collapse is inevitable.
>
> Must be time to re-watch 'Chinatown'.

Or maybe (in my case) watch it for the first time.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 04:15, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-10 10:37, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2025 9:35 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-01-10 07:55, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip stuff from the same guy who defended censorship because it was
>>>>>>> by "private companies" who were being told to do it by the Biden
>>>>>>> administration)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us value freedom more than others, obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a reminder of that yesterday actually. I have a chunk of movies
>>>>> ripped from DVDs and Blu-Rays on a portable SSD, and others are
>>>>> purchased from the Microsoft Store. If I show a movie to a class from
>>>>> the former and a few students were absent, I can upload the movie to
>>>>> Teams and they can catch up at their leisure. With the latter, they're
>>>>> completely fucked. I am actually mad that I allowed myself to believe
>>>>> that it made sense to buy DRM-enabled movies.
>>>>
>>>> DRM is necessary so the production companies can recoup the $24M ($12M
>>>> each) paid to Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie for a few months work on
>>>> Barbie, which, apart from the Ahlstrom-like whining about "the
>>>> patriarchy", was a good time.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't know, I don't watch recent movies that much. I like to buy
>>> movies I liked back in the day on DVD though. I just got Old School and
>>> The Bourne Supremacy.
>>
>> I didn't like the one Bourne movie I partially watched. That "shaky-camera"
>> crap gets on my nerves. (I think it was a Bourne movie with the
>> "shaky-camera" disease — if not, my apologies.)
>>
>> I've been watching the Jesse Stone movies. More my speed these days.
>
> Well, I was a fan of the Bourne Identity, the Bourne Supremacy and the
> Bourne Ultimatum. I even bought Jason Bourne on the Windows movie store
> but have yet to watch it. I just like the action. The worst shake-camera
> movies I've seen were Transformers and Man of Steel. There, the camera
> shakes so much that you have no way of knowing what the heck is going
> on. I loved Henry Cavill as Superman but I hated the movie he was in
> because of that.

Maybe I just saw the part of the Bourne movie (whichever one it was) where
they were doing the camera shaking. Wherever I see it, I don't like it.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 11:36, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/11/2025 7:25 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, I was a fan of the Bourne Identity, the Bourne Supremacy and the
>>> Bourne Ultimatum. I even bought Jason Bourne on the Windows movie
>>> store but have yet to watch it. I just like the action. The worst
>>> shake-camera movies I've seen were Transformers and Man of Steel.
>>> There, the camera shakes so much that you have no way of knowing what
>>> the heck is going on. I loved Henry Cavill as Superman but I hated the
>>> movie he was in because of that.
>>
>> I think it's the director Paul Greengrass who overuses that extremely
>> irritating method of filming.  As I recall, Green Zone was 115 minutes
>> of shaky handheld camera.
>
> I wouldn't know, I never check who the director is. I know that I like
> anything Mel Gibson directs and that I generally enjoy a Ridley Scott
> film, but that's about it.

Paul Greengrass directed three of the five(?) Bourne movies, so I'm
guessing I (partially) saw one of his.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:36:44 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> I think it's the director Paul Greengrass who overuses that extremely
>> irritating method of filming. As I recall, Green Zone was 115 minutes
>> of shaky handheld camera.
>
> Let's hear it for the Steadicam technology!

Definitely.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:15:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>
>> I didn't like the one Bourne movie I partially watched. That
>> "shaky-camera"
>> crap gets on my nerves. (I think it was a Bourne movie with the
>> "shaky-camera" disease — if not, my apologies.)
>
> I've been watching the new Netflix series 'American Primeval'. I won't
> comment on its value but it's filmed (digital I suppose) in that faux
> black and white mode. Colors sometimes come through but not often.
>
> I assume it's some sort of digital post-processing to try to create and
> atmosphere of 1853.
>
> The Mormons may not be too happy with it. They'd rather forget the
> Mountain Meadows Massacre. There is a monument at the site when it hasn't
> been vandalized but it's not included in the tourist brochures.

I'll have to look up the Mountain Meadows Massacre. If I've heard of it I've
managed to forget what I heard.

>> I've been watching the Jesse Stone movies. More my speed these days.
>
> Selleck makes anything better and Parker's stories were good to start
> with. I haven't read any of the Stone books written by other author's
> after his death but I believe the movies stay close to the originals.

I've watched six of the nine now. The weakest, so far, was the sixth one (it
was the first one not based on one of Parker's books) but it wasn't
terrible. Selleck and the director (Harmon?) wrote this one. They kept the
mood pretty close but I'm hoping number 7 doesn't drop another notch.

Two things Parker required in the films. Jesse Stone could never "get over"
his ex-wife and he could never quit drinking.

I haven't read any of Parker's Jesse Stone books, but I probably will now
that I've watched movies based on them. And I agree that Selleck makes it
better. Now that Blue Bloods has ended (I've never watched that show... yet,
but it went fourteen years) there's talk of more Jesse Stone movies.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 11:09, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/8/2025 2:07 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-08 12:13, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 1/8/2025 10:56 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Makes me wonder about what the median age is on this newsgroup.
>>>>> I suspect that very few (if any) are still under age 45, if not 50
>>>>
>>>> Poster        Age        Source
>>>> ============  =========  =============
>>>> -hh           mid 60s?   guess
>>>> Ahlstrom      67         online
>>>> Carpentier    50s?       guess
>>>> D'Oliveiro    60s?       posts about old tech
>>>> DFS           62         birth certificate
>>>> Feeb          43         online
>>>> Joel          late 40s   Joel
>>>> PhysFitFreak  70s        online
>>>> Relf          64         Relf
>>>> RonB          70s        RonB
>>>> Slimer        mid 40s    Slimer
>>>> candycane     30s?       guess
>>>> rbowman       75         rbowman
>>>> shitv         late 50s?  his posts
>>>> vallor        58         online
>>>>
>>>> approx
>>>> median        62
>>>> avg           59
>>>
>>> 45 in my case, about to turn 46 in a month.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> When I first started posting in this stinkpit I was 41.  Scary how fast
>> time passes.
>
> ... when you're having fun, right? I imagine that things were a lot more
> fun when Peter the Klöwn and Debbie Ballard were regulars.

Hey! I'm a "spry" 68. Not in my 70s.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:09:09 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> The bullshit "world flood" then happened as ice-dams and such failed
>> and sent Huge quantities of water down river tracts in the northern
>> hemisphere. I can see why so many people imagined the entire world
>> was flooded.
>
> https://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/the-big-picture.html
>
> If there were humans hanging around eastern Washington that survived they
> had some pretty good stories. I think Some of the tribes in the area do
> have floods in their lore.
>
> Before I even knew the story I remember driving through the Washington
> scablands and thinking something interesting happened there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channeled_Scablands

Sorry for adding to the off-topic climate change flood here :-D

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The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do,
after all.
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On 1/11/25 8:21 AM, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
> Poor -highhorse. If he's not attacking reasonable behavior, he's
> defending unreasonable behavior.
>
> I would love to see him "man up" on the censorship issue.

Sure: it goes back to at least 9 April 2013...

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/1W-mAcPC-B4/m/lsaUt_ozLEwJ>

I had called out COLA's behavior of hypocrisy, where the left side of
their piehole was bragging about freedom of speech while the right side
of their piehole was trying to exploit peer pressure to supress the
voices of posters (yup, censorship) whose messages they disliked.

Naturally, the usual suspects were the ones who were butthurt.

> He could
> admit that leftists in the government disallowed freedom of speech.

Got cite? Let's see the Google Groups URL to this alleged post.

Because there were conversations like this one which revealed how Musk
has been a hypocrite with twitter, just like COLA boys above:

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/KGUPKGKvT-Y/m/El_VEgicAAAJ>

> Government directives resulted in the censorship of those on the
> right. On multiple issues that went against the Biden
> administration's narrative.

Again, got cite? Let's see the Google Groups URL to this alleged post.

> This is relevant to what was being discussed, too. It shows that the
> asshole is ok with our most precious rights being taken away.

The only 'relevance' is that you're boundless in your hypocrisies
and always cry victim when you get called out.

> He will need to change the subject header to indicate his intentions
> to "man up", of course, if I'm to see it.

Well, if that's all it takes to avoid your censorship, and since I'm not
changing my position, I've suitably updated the subjectline to tell you
and every other COLA hypocrite to go fuck off.

-hh

On 2025-01-12 02:49, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-11 04:08, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-10 04:09, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-01-09, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 03:40, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:59:22 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're
>>>>>>>>> thinking in terms of *bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole
>>>>>>>>> group of people based on race.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But race doesn't exist. Or does it? The liberals are fine with giving a
>>>>>>>> group of people special privileges based on race.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Woke seem confused on that issue. Of course the Woke aren't having a
>>>>>>> very good time right now, so they may a little constipated. Ford, McDonald's
>>>>>>> and Walmart are the latest to drop (or curtail) the DEI BS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just talking about Ford with my wife yesterday. If I remember
>>>>>> correctly, they were the _only_ American automotive company strong
>>>>>> enough in 2008 not to require a bailout from the government. Since then,
>>>>>> they have jumped on the electric vehicle train which has cost them a
>>>>>> fortune since nobody wants those cars, at least not from them. Even
>>>>>> worse, their F-150 has just gotten a recall affecting several hundred
>>>>>> thousand vehicle, exacerbating the damage. I imagine that they'll be
>>>>>> requiring government assistance very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> They *were* the strongest... until they bought into the EV crap. Hopefully
>>>>> they'll back out of that stupidity. How big is the "carbon footprint" that
>>>>> is required to provide the electricity that these "climate conscience" cars
>>>>> require? And what kid of "carbon footprint" cost is there in the batteries?
>>>>> — (and they wear out in a few years and are too expensive to replace so the
>>>>> car usually ends up in the junk yard). This "green products" push is just
>>>>> another scam. Not to mention that most of the EV vehicles are about
>>>>> worthless if you need to drive more than 120 miles.
>>>>
>>>> Important facts:
>>>>
>>>> 1. You have to flood wide areas of land to extract lithium. They have
>>>> new ways of doing it, but they haven't yet been implemented.
>>>> 2. Lithium is considered a rare metal, and there isn't enough of it to
>>>> supply everyone with an electric car.
>>>> 3. Charged to 100% and depleted to 0%, lithium batteries last about
>>>> 1,000 charges.
>>>> 4. The batteries in hybrid cars were charged between 25% to 30%, that is
>>>> why they lasted longer.
>>>> 5. Lithium is recycled at a rate of about 1%, the rest ends up in a
>>>> landfill.
>>>> 6. Electric cars themselves are not recycled because it is dangerous to
>>>> do so. As a result, they too end up in landfills.
>>>> 7. The grid in countries that produce a lot of electricity like Canada
>>>> is insufficient to allow for everyone to have an electric car. You would
>>>> need to add about a dozen nuclear generators to supply enough.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, Israel has made the process of charging an electric vehicle
>>>> less annoying by making drivers whose cars are depleted drive to a
>>>> service station where their battery is replaced within a few minutes. I
>>>> have yet to see that here.
>>>
>>> I'm a little bit confused about how they would be able to replace EV
>>> batteries in a few minutes...
>>>
>>> Okay, I found some information about it... but, apparently, the Israeli
>>> outfit that was doing it when belly-up in 2013, and Tessla's attempt at this
>>> service ten years ago was unsuccessful. But maybe that's changing. No one is
>>> mentioning how expensive it is to lease these batteries or use this service.
>>>
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/lbsbusinessstrategyreview/2024/04/15/the-rebirth-of-ev-battery-swapping-services-and-why-their-time-is-now/
>>
>> Admittedly, it's possible that this service no longer exists. I got the
>> story from my father-in-law who has Jewish friends who visit Israel
>> regularly. I thought it was bullshit too until I saw the story that yes,
>> such a thing exists/existed in Israel. To me, swapping batteries that
>> way was impossible because the batteries are usually very complex and as
>> big as the car, but I guess they figured out a way to do it differently.
>
> Makes me wonder if they were using a specific car model. One designed for
> this.

My father-in-law assured me that the man was using a Tesla. Of course,
he makes stuff up as he goes along as often as he tells the truth.

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On 2025-01-12 02:54, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-11 04:10, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apparently L.A. is burning because they quit making fire breaks on the hills
>>>>> overlooking the city because "they interfered" with the migration of some
>>>>> breed of mouse. And the water shortage is partly caused by the removal of
>>>>> dams in north California. (That and they sent their "extra" fire equipment
>>>>> to Ukraine.)
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, the fire chief is a lesbian whose main agenda is increasing
>>>> "diversity" in fire fighters. Sheesh.
>>>
>>> California was almost a "paradise" when my dad moved their in the early 50s.
>>> They've sure managed to screw that up in the following decades.
>>
>> Instead of beating the living Hell out of beatniks and variations of
>> Communists, they tolerated them. Once Berkeley was taken over, it was
>> downhill for the state.
>>
>> That said, I believe that there are a lot more conservatives in
>> California than the election results suggest. These people don't believe
>> in fair elections, and there is much reason to believe that there is
>> rampant fraud there enabling the Democrats to stay in power even when
>> the people want to get rid of them.
>
> The main thing I'm worried about now is that another big batch of
> Californians will move to Idaho. Which would be (mostly) okay (except they
> drive the price of property way up) if they didn't try to export the same
> politics that turned California into a shithole into Idaho.

I think that Californians feel the need to live in areas with lots of
population, so Idaho is not likely to be a destination. Texas maybe, but
not farm central.

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

-highhorse wrote:

> (idiocy and lies snipped)

You see the garbage that -highhorse will post, to defend the
indefensible, folks? He's been proven to be wrong, and he's been
caught lying to attack, so this is what we get.

He won't concede that government pressure led to censorship on social
media sites, and that that's wrong.

Meainwhile, I'm allegedly a "hypocrite" because I've supposedly
"censored" people on USENET.

Err... No I haven't. I don't have that power. Choosing to not read
or quote something is not censoring it. Obviously.

What a ridiculous liar, -highhorse is. What a snit.

As for the subject about a "change of position" and "YA
unsubstantiated claim", -highhorse is attacking with pure made-up
snittery. He wants to blow-up the argument into an unwieldy mess to
distract from the simple points. This is his usual MO.

It's not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse defended censorship because
it was private companies doing it, even though, we now know, they were
doing it at the behest of the government.

Every decent, honest American would admit that what happened was
wrong. But -highhorse will not admit that happened was wrong.

It's also not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse is a ridiculous liar,
for claiming that cola advocates have "censored" anyone and are thus
"hypocrites".

"You're a hypocrite because you complain about tyrants on the left
suppressing our freedoms, but you do it yourself!"

Err... NO, WE DO NOT, YOU RIDICULOUS, LYING ASSHOLE.
-highhorse's snittish response will be deleted, unread.

--
"[chrisv] censored his reply" - lying asshole "-hh", lying
shamelessly

-highhorse wrote:

> (idiocy and lies snipped)

You see the garbage that -highhorse will post, to defend the
indefensible, folks? He's been proven to be wrong, and he's been
caught lying to attack, so this is what we get.

He won't concede that government pressure led to censorship on social
media sites, and that that's wrong.

Meainwhile, I'm allegedly a "hypocrite" because I've supposedly
"censored" people on USENET.

Err... No I haven't. I don't have that power. Choosing to not read
or quote something is not censoring it. Obviously.

What a ridiculous liar, -highhorse is. What a snit.

As for the subject about a "change of position" and "YA
unsubstantiated claim", -highhorse is attacking with pure made-up
snittery. He wants to blow-up the argument into an unwieldy mess to
distract from the simple points. This is his usual MO.

It's not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse defended censorship because
it was private companies doing it, even though, we now know, they were
doing it at the behest of the government.

Every decent, honest American would admit that what happened was
wrong. But -highhorse will not admit that happened was wrong.

It's also not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse is a ridiculous liar,
for claiming that cola advocates have "censored" anyone and are thus
"hypocrites".

"You're a hypocrite because you complain about tyrants on the left
suppressing our freedoms, but you do it yourself!"

Err... NO, WE DO NOT, YOU RIDICULOUS, LYING ASSHOLE.
-highhorse's snittish response will be deleted, unread.

--
"[chrisv] censored his reply" - lying asshole "-hh", lying
shamelessly

On 1/11/2025 3:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:36:44 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> I think it's the director Paul Greengrass who overuses that extremely
>> irritating method of filming. As I recall, Green Zone was 115 minutes
>> of shaky handheld camera.
>
> Let's hear it for the Steadicam technology!

We can also thank the Greek man Philo Mechanicus for describing a gimbal
back in the day. Smaller, hand-held gimbals let you have a cheap
steadicam for your smartphone.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B15CJPD6

On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 08:13:14 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I haven't read any of Parker's Jesse Stone books, but I probably will
> now that I've watched movies based on them. And I agree that Selleck
> makes it better. Now that Blue Bloods has ended (I've never watched that
> show... yet,
> but it went fourteen years) there's talk of more Jesse Stone movies.

I haven't seen the final season but I enjoyed Blue Bloods. I was surprised
it didn't get shouted down. White Irish Catholic families aren't a popular
topic and it treated controversial topics with a balanced approach.

On 1/12/25 8:43 AM, chrisv wrote:
> -highhorse wrote:
>
>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>
> You see the garbage that -highhorse will post, to defend the
> indefensible, folks? He's been proven to be wrong, and he's been
> caught lying to attack, so this is what we get.

YA unsubstantiated claim from luzer-v., which is why he snipped it:
to try to avoid yet another emotional 'meltdown' from losing...again.

> He won't concede that government pressure led to censorship on social
> media sites, and that that's wrong.

Substantiating citation missing. Still.

> Meainwhile, I'm allegedly a "hypocrite" because I've supposedly
> "censored" people on USENET.

Who pointed that out to you that you lacked the power you wanted to use?
Butthurt about that still!

> Err... No I haven't. I don't have that power. Choosing to not read
> or quote something is not censoring it. Obviously.

But that wasn't what was said, as per the part you *just* snipped.

> What a ridiculous liar, -highhorse is. What a snit.
>
> As for the subject about a "change of position" and "YA
> unsubstantiated claim", -highhorse is attacking with pure made-up
> snittery. He wants to blow-up the argument into an unwieldy mess to
> distract from the simple points. This is his usual MO.
>
> It's not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse defended censorship because
> it was private companies doing it, even though, we now know, they were
> doing it at the behest of the government.

Unfortunately, chrisv still can't actually bring himself to quote the
original text, complete with a GG URL cite, to show readers that he
didn't just make it up.

Is that failure because he knows that he's lying? Or just that
incompetent to use GG to provide a citation?

FWIW, sounds like what chrisv is probably ranting about is that he was
on a 1st Amendment rant, but it was pointed out to him that the 1st
Amendment restricts only the Government, not private corporations.
Wonder how he's going to react to TikToc @ SCOTUS later this month...

> Every decent, honest American would admit that what happened was
> wrong. But -highhorse will not admit that happened was wrong.
>
> It's also not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse is a ridiculous liar,
> for claiming that cola advocates have "censored" anyone and are thus
> "hypocrites".
>
> "You're a hypocrite because you complain about tyrants on the left
> suppressing our freedoms, but you do it yourself!"
>
> Err... NO, WE DO NOT, YOU RIDICULOUS, LYING ASSHOLE.

chrisv used quote marks without citation: "Err..."?

So who actually made that statement?
When & where, and in what context?

Or is this merely yet another chrisv attempt to lie & deceive, by trying
to imply that that it was said? Cites, please.

> -highhorse's snittish response will be deleted, unread.

Translation: YA chrisv snowflake meltdown in progress. Cry harder.

-hh

On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:49:21 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Makes me wonder if they were using a specific car model. One designed
> for this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Fluence_Z.E.

The technology was sound but not the business model. Electric forklifts
have used swapped out batteries for decades. Automobiles could take design
hints from the old VW vans. It was notoriously easy to steal the entire
engine to replace your clapped out mill.

On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:54:52 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> The main thing I'm worried about now is that another big batch of
> Californians will move to Idaho. Which would be (mostly) okay (except
> they drive the price of property way up) if they didn't try to export
> the same politics that turned California into a shithole into Idaho.

James Wesley Rawles will be upset with his new neighbors in the American
Redoubt.

-hh wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-12 02:54, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-11 04:10, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-10, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently L.A. is burning because they quit making fire breaks on the hills
>>>>>> overlooking the city because "they interfered" with the migration of some
>>>>>> breed of mouse. And the water shortage is partly caused by the removal of
>>>>>> dams in north California. (That and they sent their "extra" fire equipment
>>>>>> to Ukraine.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Course, the fire chief is a lesbian whose main agenda is increasing
>>>>> "diversity" in fire fighters. Sheesh.
>>>>
>>>> California was almost a "paradise" when my dad moved their in the early 50s.
>>>> They've sure managed to screw that up in the following decades.
>>>
>>> Instead of beating the living Hell out of beatniks and variations of
>>> Communists, they tolerated them. Once Berkeley was taken over, it was
>>> downhill for the state.
>>>
>>> That said, I believe that there are a lot more conservatives in
>>> California than the election results suggest. These people don't believe
>>> in fair elections, and there is much reason to believe that there is
>>> rampant fraud there enabling the Democrats to stay in power even when
>>> the people want to get rid of them.
>>
>> The main thing I'm worried about now is that another big batch of
>> Californians will move to Idaho. Which would be (mostly) okay (except they
>> drive the price of property way up) if they didn't try to export the same
>> politics that turned California into a shithole into Idaho.
>
> I think that Californians feel the need to live in areas with lots of
> population, so Idaho is not likely to be a destination. Texas maybe, but
> not farm central.

We've gotten a LOT of Californians here. The city I live in (just west of
Boise) was, for a couple years, the fastest growing city in the country.
Mostly because of the influx Californians (plus some from Seattle and
Portland). Mostly they want to get out of the Woke shitholes they were
living in. The biggest downside is that they've driven the price of housing
way up. But I can't blame them for wanting to get out of California.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:54:52 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> The main thing I'm worried about now is that another big batch of
>> Californians will move to Idaho. Which would be (mostly) okay (except
>> they drive the price of property way up) if they didn't try to export
>> the same politics that turned California into a shithole into Idaho.
>
> James Wesley Rawles will be upset with his new neighbors in the American
> Redoubt.

I don't know who James Wesley Rawles is or what "American Redoubt" refers to.
And, right now, I'm too lazy to look either up.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-12, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 08:13:14 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I haven't read any of Parker's Jesse Stone books, but I probably will
>> now that I've watched movies based on them. And I agree that Selleck
>> makes it better. Now that Blue Bloods has ended (I've never watched that
>> show... yet,
>> but it went fourteen years) there's talk of more Jesse Stone movies.
>
> I haven't seen the final season but I enjoyed Blue Bloods. I was surprised
> it didn't get shouted down. White Irish Catholic families aren't a popular
> topic and it treated controversial topics with a balanced approach.

I'll have to give it a shot. I don't have cable, so everything I watch is
streaming — I only recently found out there was a show called Blue Bloods.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> -highhorse wrote:
>
>> (idiocy and lies snipped)
>
> You see the garbage that -highhorse will post, to defend the
> indefensible, folks? He's been proven to be wrong, and he's been
> caught lying to attack, so this is what we get.
>
> He won't concede that government pressure led to censorship on social
> media sites, and that that's wrong.
>
> Meainwhile, I'm allegedly a "hypocrite" because I've supposedly
> "censored" people on USENET.
>
> Err... No I haven't. I don't have that power. Choosing to not read
> or quote something is not censoring it. Obviously.
>
> What a ridiculous liar, -highhorse is. What a snit.
>
> As for the subject about a "change of position" and "YA
> unsubstantiated claim", -highhorse is attacking with pure made-up
> snittery. He wants to blow-up the argument into an unwieldy mess to
> distract from the simple points. This is his usual MO.
>
> It's not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse defended censorship because
> it was private companies doing it, even though, we now know, they were
> doing it at the behest of the government.
>
> Every decent, honest American would admit that what happened was
> wrong. But -highhorse will not admit that happened was wrong.
>
> It's also not "unsubstantiated" that -highhorse is a ridiculous liar,
> for claiming that cola advocates have "censored" anyone and are thus
> "hypocrites".
>
> "You're a hypocrite because you complain about tyrants on the left
> suppressing our freedoms, but you do it yourself!"
>
> Err... NO, WE DO NOT, YOU RIDICULOUS, LYING ASSHOLE.
>
> -highhorse's snittish response will be deleted, unread.

It's easier to NOT deal with -highhorse's crap. I just killfile him.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien