In article <v8hkgr$2kmja$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:jbfoajtj33ovf8s0lcdvb71lna8omfq1j5@4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:28:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66abed4c$0$161080
> >>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> >>> The local snowplow company. They are more reliable than state run
> >>> shit.
> >>
> >>Ain't none around here - but the local government does have snowplows.
> >> And just how does a snowplow company stay in business though the
> >>summer?
> >
> > He's lying, Baxter. I would have thought that obvious even to you.
> >
> When I ask conservaturds questions like that, I have 2 purposes:
> 1 - the vain hope that it might possibly make him think, and,
> 2 - to parade his ignorance and stupidity for all to see.

Did you copy that from that last person that slapped you silly?

"Malte Runz" wrote in message
news:21bpaj9keqg1h74ggcjdltf4gat169kbts@4ax.com...
>
>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 13:59:25 -0600, Chips Loral
><loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>
>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> What president defunded what police?
>>
>>
>>BIDEN!
>>
>>https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/senators-condemn-biden-plan-to-defund-deprive-police-of-critical-lifesaving-resources-by-executive-fiat
>
>(snip)
>
>> ... Violent crime will
>>continue to skyrocket ...
>
>Violent crime in the US is dropping.
>https://tinyurl.com/ymyemsmz
>
>"In 2020, the United States experienced one of its most dangerous
>years in decades.
>
>The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between
>2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime
>rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up
>around 5% in the same period."
>
>Who was president in that period?
>
>"But in 2023, crime in America looked very different.
>
>"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 — there
>was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it just
>continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and co-founder of
>AH Datalytics.
>

Because of the covid lockdowns?

>
>In cities big and small, from both coasts, violence has dropped."
>
>And who was president in that period?
>
>From the FBI. You know, the bureau a lot of Republicans want to
>defund:
>https://tinyurl.com/52dkk8hk
>
>"The Quarterly Uniform Crime Report (Q1), January-March, 2024,
>provides a preliminary look at crime trends for January through March
>2024 compared to January through March 2023. A comparison of data from
>agencies that voluntarily submitted at least two or more common months
>of data for January through March 2023 and 2024 indicates reported
>violent crime -->decreased<-- by 15.2 percent. Murder -->decreased<--
>by 26.4 percent, rape -->decreased<-- by 25.7 percent, robbery
>-->decreased<-- by 17.8 percent, and aggravated assault
>-->decreased<-- by 12.5 percent. Reported property crime also
>-->decreased<-- by 15.1 percent."
>(My emphasis)
>
>Your turn. Show us the stats that say violent crime is skyrocketing in
>the US.
>

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66accb3e$0$2385546$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <jbfoajtj33ovf8s0lcdvb71lna8omfq1j5@4ax.com>,
> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:28:43 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66abed4c$0$161080
>> >$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >
>> >> In article <XnsB1C18DA927B33629555@185.151.15.190>,
>> >> noemail@aol.com says...
>> >>>
>> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>> news:66abcb4e$0$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>>
>> >>> > In article <v8ers9$1vfo4$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
>> >_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> >>> > says...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>> >>> >> news:XnsB1C08164A769629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > Jones <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote in
>> >>> >> > news:20240730.211044.2821aa16@erienetworks.net:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> In <hebqO.2$gJuc.1@fx10.iad> louise wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> On 7/29/2024 11:08 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:50:35 -0700, Al Feldhauser
>> >>> >> >> <kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>> "Al Feldhauser"�?  wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic
>> >>> >> >>>>>> corruption.
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman
>> >>> >> >>>>> Nazi filth.
>> >>> >> >>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> There is no "deep state"
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil
>> >>> >> >>>> Service.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> That's not what they mean.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Swill is an idiot too. Career government employees of
>> >>> >> >> every ilk have something to protect, their retirement scams
>> >>> >> >> on the public dime. They illegally create policy and do
>> >>> >> >> everything they can
>> >to
>> >>> >> >> thwart progress or improvement.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > We are far better putting our
>> >>> >> > faith in the private sector, we can
>> >>> >> > trust people like Bernie Madoff and
>> >>> >> > Carl Icahn with your money becuase
>> >>> >> > they are not "government bureaucrats"
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> No, private sector is NOT the answer. There are many servises
>> >>> >> that the private sector will not and cannot provide. And there
>> >>> >> are many services that government can and does provide more
>> >>> >> effieciently and cheaper.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > When will they start?
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> When your street is blocked
>> >>> by snow who do you call for help -
>> >>> Baskin Robbins?
>> >>
>> >> The local snowplow company. They are more reliable than state run
>> >> shit.
>> >
>> >Ain't none around here - but the local government does have
>> >snowplows. And just how does a snowplow company stay in business
>> >though the summer?
>>
>> He's lying, Baxter. I would have thought that obvious even to you.
>
> Plenty of snow plow company's where I live.

Show us the authority of private
companies to plow public streets. And
who pays them.

"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
news:v8iiin$2qfsv$1@dont-email.me:

> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
> news:21bpaj9keqg1h74ggcjdltf4gat169kbts@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 13:59:25 -0600, Chips Loral
>><loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>
>>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> What president defunded what police?
>>>
>>>
>>>BIDEN!
>>>
>>>https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/senators-condemn-bi
>>>den-plan-to-defund-deprive-police-of-critical-lifesaving-resources-by-
>>>executive-fiat
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>> ... Violent crime will
>>>continue to skyrocket ...
>>
>>Violent crime in the US is dropping.
>>https://tinyurl.com/ymyemsmz
>>
>>"In 2020, the United States experienced one of its most dangerous
>>years in decades.
>>
>>The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between
>>2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime
>>rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up
>>around 5% in the same period."
>>
>>Who was president in that period?
>>
>>"But in 2023, crime in America looked very different.
>>
>>"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 —
>>there was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it
>>just continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and
>>co-founder of AH Datalytics.
>>
>
> Because of the covid lockdowns?
>

What covid lockdowns?

>>
>>In cities big and small, from both coasts, violence has dropped."
>>
>>And who was president in that period?
>>
>>From the FBI. You know, the bureau a lot of Republicans want to
>>defund:
>>https://tinyurl.com/52dkk8hk
>>
>>"The Quarterly Uniform Crime Report (Q1), January-March, 2024,
>>provides a preliminary look at crime trends for January through March
>>2024 compared to January through March 2023. A comparison of data from
>>agencies that voluntarily submitted at least two or more common months
>>of data for January through March 2023 and 2024 indicates reported
>>violent crime -->decreased<-- by 15.2 percent. Murder -->decreased<--
>>by 26.4 percent, rape -->decreased<-- by 25.7 percent, robbery
>>-->decreased<-- by 17.8 percent, and aggravated assault
>>-->decreased<-- by 12.5 percent. Reported property crime also
>>-->decreased<-- by 15.1 percent."
>>(My emphasis)
>>
>>Your turn. Show us the stats that say violent crime is skyrocketing in
>>the US.
>>
>
>

Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote in
news:6cepajlirf4hdvviltho5hoorhelul1mlp@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:03:00 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>news:ig8kajdamvoavlptd43at03k9cl82dql2l@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 14:40:40 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>news:XnsB1BF561A6C8E6629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>
>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:v89nmk$sere$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W"
>>>>>>><space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their
>>>>>>>critics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and
>>>>>> allegations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is just a coincidence
>>>>>that Putin critic keep falling
>>>>>out of windows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Only critics? ...
>>>
>>>That was not implied.
>>>
>>
>>It's been claimed all along in this group that Putin kills his
>>opponents - without evidence.
>>Has it got something to do with the gov and MSM's agenda in America?
>
> Nope. Russian dissidents make the same claims. Do try to stay
> informed. Let me know if you need me to post links.
>
>>Some people just love the current gov and MSM and believe their every
>>word.
>
> And some people believe Trump when he claims Putin had no reason to
> lie about his non-involvement in the 2016 US presidential election.

Trump admitted Putin rigged the 2016 election.

Trump finally admits Russia helped get him elected
May 30, 2019

"And now Russia has disappeared because I
had nothing to do with Russia helping me
to get elected. It was a crime that didn�t
exist."

The key part there, just for emphasis, was
"I had nothing to do with Russia helping me
to get elected." In other words, "the Kremlin
tried to help me win, but I didn�t coordinate
with them."
https://tinyurl.com/y3sjjvar

In article <XnsB1C2516507F5E629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote in
> news:6cepajlirf4hdvviltho5hoorhelul1mlp@4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:03:00 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
> >>news:ig8kajdamvoavlptd43at03k9cl82dql2l@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 14:40:40 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >>>>news:XnsB1BF561A6C8E6629555@185.151.15.190...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>>>news:v89nmk$sere$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W"
> >>>>>>><space@defense.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their
> >>>>>>>critics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and
> >>>>>> allegations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is just a coincidence
> >>>>>that Putin critic keep falling
> >>>>>out of windows.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Only critics? ...
> >>>
> >>>That was not implied.
> >>>
> >>
> >>It's been claimed all along in this group that Putin kills his
> >>opponents - without evidence.
> >>Has it got something to do with the gov and MSM's agenda in America?
> >
> > Nope. Russian dissidents make the same claims. Do try to stay
> > informed. Let me know if you need me to post links.
> >
> >>Some people just love the current gov and MSM and believe their every
> >>word.
> >
> > And some people believe Trump when he claims Putin had no reason to
> > lie about his non-involvement in the 2016 US presidential election.
>
>
>
> Trump admitted Putin rigged the 2016 election.
>
>
>
>
> Trump finally admits Russia helped get him elected
> May 30, 2019
>
> "And now Russia has disappeared because I
> had nothing to do with Russia helping me
> to get elected. It was a crime that didn?t
> exist."
>
> The key part there, just for emphasis, was
> "I had nothing to do with Russia helping me
> to get elected." In other words, "the Kremlin
> tried to help me win, but I didn?t coordinate
> with them."
> https://tinyurl.com/y3sjjvar

He didn't admit anything.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 22:14:11 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:21bpaj9keqg1h74ggcjdltf4gat169kbts@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 13:59:25 -0600, Chips Loral
>><loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>
>>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> What president defunded what police?
>>>
>>>
>>>BIDEN!
>>>
>>>https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/senators-condemn-biden-plan-to-defund-deprive-police-of-critical-lifesaving-resources-by-executive-fiat
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>> ... Violent crime will
>>>continue to skyrocket ...
>>
>>Violent crime in the US is dropping.
>>https://tinyurl.com/ymyemsmz
>>
>>"In 2020, the United States experienced one of its most dangerous
>>years in decades.
>>
>>The number of murders across the country surged by nearly 30% between
>>2019 and 2020, according to FBI statistics. The overall violent crime
>>rate, which includes murder, assault, robbery and rape, inched up
>>around 5% in the same period."
>>
>>Who was president in that period?
>>
>>"But in 2023, crime in America looked very different.
>>
>>"At some point in 2022 — at the end of 2022 or through 2023 — there
>>was just a tipping point where violence started to fall and it just
>>continued to fall," said Jeff Asher, a crime analyst and co-founder of
>>AH Datalytics.
>>
>
>Because of the covid lockdowns?

[pop...pop... pop pop... popopopopop...]

Why don't you tell us when the lockdowns ended in the US.

This is a good example of what happens when you react instinctively,
without thought, and purely as a contrarian.

>>In cities big and small, from both coasts, violence has dropped."
>>
>>And who was president in that period?
>>
>>From the FBI. You know, the bureau a lot of Republicans want to
>>defund:
>>https://tinyurl.com/52dkk8hk
>>
>>"The Quarterly Uniform Crime Report (Q1), January-March, 2024,
>>provides a preliminary look at crime trends for January through March
>>2024 compared to January through March 2023. A comparison of data from
>>agencies that voluntarily submitted at least two or more common months
>>of data for January through March 2023 and 2024 indicates reported
>>violent crime -->decreased<-- by 15.2 percent. Murder -->decreased<--
>>by 26.4 percent, rape -->decreased<-- by 25.7 percent, robbery
>>-->decreased<-- by 17.8 percent, and aggravated assault
>>-->decreased<-- by 12.5 percent. Reported property crime also
>>-->decreased<-- by 15.1 percent."
>>(My emphasis)
>>
>>Your turn. Show us the stats that say violent crime is skyrocketing in
>>the US.

You're welcome to have a go at it yourself. Don't hold back. Flood me
with all the details you have found during your deep dive, your expert
research into the topic.

--
Malte Runz

"Malte Runz" wrote in message
news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>
>On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>>>>>but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>>Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>>elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>>troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>
>>>>>And does that make it alright?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope. It's politics.
>>>>Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>>>
>>>Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par with
>>>Adolf Hitler.
>>>
>>
>>Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are run by the
>>deep state.
>
>Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't Putin who
>ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>

It's unknown who the order came from. It could have been a General.

>
>>The deep state is what Putin is trying to eradicate, not the people of
>>Ukraine, fool. ...
>
>Do you believe Putin when he explains how Ukraine is really a part of
>Russia and has no right to exist as a sovereign nation? Do you need me
>to link to his 'manifesto' again? Last time I did so, you claimed to
>already have read it. Okay... once more:
>http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>
>"I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in
>partnership with Russia.
>

A partnership sounds alright.

>
>Our spiritual, human and civilizational ties
>formed for centuries and have their origins in the same sources, they
>have been hardened by common trials, achievements and victories. Our
>kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in
>the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and
>Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families.
>Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more
>successful. For we are one people."
>

That sounds okay. Nothing aggressive there.

>
>>... Why do you believe the MSM lies?
>
>"For we are one people." Putin's words, motherfucker.
>

That's unity. You prefer division and conflict? I think you have mental
problems.

>
>>>>>>You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of
>>>>>>ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Strawman.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not really.
>>>
>>>Yes, really. I'm not ignorant about what you call systemic corruption.
>>>>
>>
>>Yes you are because you still believe the corrupt MSM, left political
>>party
>>etc. etc.
>
>Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Wake me up when your done blowing your
>strawman.
>

Everything you say is the same as what the radical left MSM says.

>
>>>>>>That's worse.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ignorance can be 'cured'. Your kind of stupid is a different matter
>>>>>altogether.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Says an immature woke leftist.
>>>
>>>You forgot 'extreme'. I'm afraid I must deduct some points here.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Put downs from your type are really compliments. The more you do it the
>>>>more
>>>>I know I'm over the target.
>>>
>>>I'll make sure you'll feel you're dead center over bull's eye.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>>>>>freedom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Freedom from overtaxing to live the lives we want to live for a start.
>>>>>
>>>>>How much tax are you willing to pay? Remember, your costumers need
>>>>>roads to drive on to get to you shop.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not going to get into details with you. ...
>>>
>>>Of course you're not. You haven't given it a thought and you never
>>>will. You deal in broad strokes and click baity headlines.
>>>
>>
>>Like the MSM gives you? No thought is required to believe the MSM.
>
>Did you let him come in your mouth?
>

Disgusting creep.

>>
>>
>>>
>>>> ... This is another of your tactics.
>>>
>>>I'm a sneaky motherfucker!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Freedom from media propaganda.
>>>>>
>>>>>So... some outlets should not be allowed to voice their opinion just
>>>>>because you categorize it as "propaganda"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I know more about propaganda than you.
>>>
>>>You do consume a lot of it, that's for sure.
>>>>
>>
>>No I don't follow the MSM and political left.
>
>Another keeper. Yes, I know you don't know what 'MSM and the political
>left' actually say. One thing you are getting completely wrong is that
>you think the political left is aligned with MSM. I'll let you in on a
>little secret. Leftist dislike MSM just as much as you do.
>

Why do they say the same things then?

>
>>Do you still believe the global warming scam that's for taxing people with
>>carbon credits and limiting travel?
>
>Global warming is real and travel is not limited.
>>

Global warming and cooling has been happening for billions of years. The
temp goes up and down.
Years ago Al Gore and others claimed that we are doomed, but today we're no
closer to that.
The crooks in power want to bring out yet another tax.
Battery powered cars are another way to limit our travel and keep us in
cities. You've heard of the 15 minute cities?

>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Freedom from dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our
>>>>>>lives.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you regard regulations WRT pollution and contamination of the
>>>>>environment "meddling in our lives"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You're twisting the issue.
>>>
>>>I'm giving you an example of politicians and bureaucrats meddling in
>>>people's lives. Come up with a better one if you don't like mine.
>>>>
>>
>>Do you want to pay yet another tax?
>
>And what tax would that be. Remember, we're talking about reducing the
>amounts of bad and un-natural chemicals being released into the
>environment. How does that amount to "yet another tax".
>>

On 8/3/2024 6:05 AM, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>
>>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message
>>> news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "El Kabong"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>>>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And does that make it alright?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. It's politics.
>>>>> Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>>>>
>>>> Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par with
>>>> Adolf Hitler.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are run by the
>>> deep state.
>>
>> Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't Putin who
>> ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>>
>
> It's unknown who the order came from.

Fuck off with that bullshit, lying Russian troll. It came from Putin. Nothing
the Russian government does has any other origin than Putin's direct order.

>>
>>> The deep state

There is no "deep state."

>>
>> Do you believe Putin when he explains how Ukraine is really a part of
>> Russia and has no right to exist as a sovereign nation? Do you need me
>> to link to his 'manifesto' again? Last time I did so, you claimed to
>> already have read it. Okay... once more:
>> http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>>
>> "I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in
>> partnership with Russia.
>>
>
> A partnership sounds alright.

Fuck off, Russian troll. Russia has no valid reason to control Ukraine.

>>
>> Our spiritual, human and civilizational ties
>> formed for centuries and have their origins in the same sources, they
>> have been hardened by common trials, achievements and victories. Our
>> kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in
>> the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and
>> Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families.
>> Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more
>> successful. For we are one people."
>>
>
> That sounds okay.

That sounds like pure imperialistic aggression.

>
>>
>>> ...  Why do you believe the MSM lies?
>>
>> "For we are one people." Putin's words, motherfucker.
>>
>
> That's unity.

Fuck off, lying Russian troll.

>>>>>>> You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of
>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strawman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, really. I'm not ignorant about what you call systemic corruption.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes you are because you still believe the corrupt MSM, left political party
>>> etc. etc.
>>
>> Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Wake me up when your done blowing your
>> strawman.
>>
>
> Everything you say is the same as what the radical left MSM says.

There is no "radical left MSM," you lying fucking Russian troll.

>>>>> I'm not going to get into details with you. ...
>>>>
>>>> Of course you're not. You haven't given it a thought and you never
>>>> will. You deal in broad strokes and click baity headlines.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like the MSM gives you? No thought is required to believe the MSM.
>>
>> Did you let him come in your mouth?
>>
>
> Disgusting creep.

No, he leveled a good insult at you. You suck off Putin.

>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ... This is another of your tactics.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a sneaky motherfucker!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Freedom from media propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... some outlets should not be allowed to voice their opinion just
>>>>>> because you categorize it as "propaganda"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know more about propaganda than you.
>>>>
>>>> You do consume a lot of it, that's for sure.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> No I don't follow the MSM and political left.
>>
>> Another keeper. Yes, I know you don't know what 'MSM and the political
>> left' actually say. One thing you are getting completely wrong is that
>> you think the political left is aligned with MSM. I'll let you in on a
>> little secret. Leftist dislike MSM just as much as you do.
>>
>
> Why do they say the same things then?

They don't, you disgusting cocksucking lying Russian troll.

>>
>>> Do you still believe the global warming scam that's for taxing people with
>>> carbon credits and limiting travel?
>>
>> Global warming is real and travel is not limited.
>>>
>
> Global warming and cooling has been happening for billions of years.

Catastrophic anthropogenic global warming has not been occurring for more than a
century and a half, you disgusting cocksucking Putin-dick-sucking lying Russian
troll.

>
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Freedom from dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you regard regulations WRT pollution and contamination of the
>>>>>> environment "meddling in our lives"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're twisting the issue.
>>>>
>>>> I'm giving you an example of politicians and bureaucrats meddling in
>>>> people's lives. Come up with a better one if you don't like mine.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you want to pay yet another tax?
>>
>> And what tax would that be. Remember, we're talking about reducing the
>> amounts of bad and un-natural chemicals being released into the
>> environment. How does that amount to "yet another tax".
>>>
>
> So you haven't heard about the carbon tax? The MSM doesn't talk about that either?

The media talk about everything.

>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Freedom from being poisoned by chemicals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like not having pesticides in your drinking water?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And fruit etc.
>>>>> Do you know about the glyphosate in our foods? What about PFAS and other
>>>>> toxic chemicals?
>>>>
>>>> Last year we had a huge awareness campaign and public debate about
>>>> PFAS in Denmark. Where do you find it, what does it do, how to avoid
>>>> it, what are the alternatives? That's the kind of bureaucratic
>>>> meddling I approve of.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes some groups are doing something which is good but it's too late for many
>>> who have already lost their health or lives.
>>
>> And therefore the good things that are happening now don't count. We
>> can't have anything ruining a good conspiracy theory.
>>
>
> Conspiracy theory:

"Al Feldhauser" wrote in message news:EdrrO.45632$ZhK.30490@fx14.iad...
>
>On 8/3/2024 6:05 AM, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing
>>> Nazi whore, lied:
>>>
>>>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>> news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing
>>>>> Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling
>>>>>>> HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling
>>>>>>>>> HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in
>>>>>>>>> Ukraine,
>>>>>>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And does that make it alright?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. It's politics.
>>>>>> Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par with
>>>>> Adolf Hitler.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are run by
>>>> the
>>>> deep state.
>>>
>>> Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't Putin who
>>> ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>>>
>>
>> It's unknown who the order came from.
>
>Fuck off with that bullshit, lying Russian troll. It came from Putin.
>Nothing the Russian government does has any other origin than Putin's
>direct order.
>
>>>
>>>> The deep state
>
>There is no "deep state."
>
>>>
>>> Do you believe Putin when he explains how Ukraine is really a part of
>>> Russia and has no right to exist as a sovereign nation? Do you need me
>>> to link to his 'manifesto' again? Last time I did so, you claimed to
>>> already have read it. Okay... once more:
>>> http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>>>
>>> "I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in
>>> partnership with Russia.
>>>
>>
>> A partnership sounds alright.
>
>Fuck off, Russian troll. Russia has no valid reason to control Ukraine.
>
>>>
>>> Our spiritual, human and civilizational ties
>>> formed for centuries and have their origins in the same sources, they
>>> have been hardened by common trials, achievements and victories. Our
>>> kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in
>>> the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and
>>> Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families.
>>> Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more
>>> successful. For we are one people."
>>>
>>
>> That sounds okay.
>
>That sounds like pure imperialistic aggression.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> ... Why do you believe the MSM lies?
>>>
>>> "For we are one people." Putin's words, motherfucker.
>>>
>>
>> That's unity.
>
>Fuck off, lying Russian troll.
>
>>>>>>>> You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of
>>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strawman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, really. I'm not ignorant about what you call systemic corruption.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes you are because you still believe the corrupt MSM, left political
>>>> party
>>>> etc. etc.
>>>
>>> Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Wake me up when your done blowing your
>>> strawman.
>>>
>>
>> Everything you say is the same as what the radical left MSM says.
>
>There is no "radical left MSM," you lying fucking Russian troll.
>
>
>>>>>> I'm not going to get into details with you. ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you're not. You haven't given it a thought and you never
>>>>> will. You deal in broad strokes and click baity headlines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like the MSM gives you? No thought is required to believe the MSM.
>>>
>>> Did you let him come in your mouth?
>>>
>>
>> Disgusting creep.
>
>No, he leveled a good insult at you. You suck off Putin.
>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... This is another of your tactics.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a sneaky motherfucker!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freedom from media propaganda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So... some outlets should not be allowed to voice their opinion just
>>>>>>> because you categorize it as "propaganda"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know more about propaganda than you.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do consume a lot of it, that's for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No I don't follow the MSM and political left.
>>>
>>> Another keeper. Yes, I know you don't know what 'MSM and the political
>>> left' actually say. One thing you are getting completely wrong is that
>>> you think the political left is aligned with MSM. I'll let you in on a
>>> little secret. Leftist dislike MSM just as much as you do.
>>>
>>
>> Why do they say the same things then?
>
>They don't, you disgusting cocksucking lying Russian troll.
>
>>>
>>>> Do you still believe the global warming scam that's for taxing people
>>>> with
>>>> carbon credits and limiting travel?
>>>
>>> Global warming is real and travel is not limited.
>>>>
>>
>> Global warming and cooling has been happening for billions of years.
>
>Catastrophic anthropogenic global warming has not been occurring for more
>than a century and a half, you disgusting cocksucking Putin-dick-sucking
>lying Russian troll.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freedom from dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our
>>>>>>>> lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you regard regulations WRT pollution and contamination of the
>>>>>>> environment "meddling in our lives"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're twisting the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm giving you an example of politicians and bureaucrats meddling in
>>>>> people's lives. Come up with a better one if you don't like mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to pay yet another tax?
>>>
>>> And what tax would that be. Remember, we're talking about reducing the
>>> amounts of bad and un-natural chemicals being released into the
>>> environment. How does that amount to "yet another tax".
>>>>
>>
>> So you haven't heard about the carbon tax? The MSM doesn't talk about
>> that either?
>
>The media talk about everything.
>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freedom from being poisoned by chemicals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like not having pesticides in your drinking water?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And fruit etc.
>>>>>> Do you know about the glyphosate in our foods? What about PFAS and
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> toxic chemicals?
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year we had a huge awareness campaign and public debate about
>>>>> PFAS in Denmark. Where do you find it, what does it do, how to avoid
>>>>> it, what are the alternatives? That's the kind of bureaucratic
>>>>> meddling I approve of.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes some groups are doing something which is good but it's too late for
>>>> many
>>>> who have already lost their health or lives.
>>>
>>> And therefore the good things that are happening now don't count. We
>>> can't have anything ruining a good conspiracy theory.
>>>
>>
>> Conspiracy theory:
>
>All the bullshit lies you believe.
>
>>>
>>>> Are bureaucrats the ones who've been taking this action for years?
>>>
>>> They enable the implementation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The corporations and gov know about it and have for a long time. ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The use of PFAS was never held secret from the public.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did the MSM and gov talk about it to the public? If not then it's
>>>> basically
>>>> a secret like the others subjects I talk about.
>>>
>>> We are many who do not need the government to talk about things for us
>>> to know about them.
>>>
>>
>> If it wasn't for the internet you wouldn't know.
>
>That's a lie, you disgusting cocksucking lying Russian troll.
>
>You have the internet, and you don't know a fucking thing about anything.
>All you know are right-wingnut lies, most of them fed to you by the
>Kremlin.
>
>>>
>>>> If you go to a politician about this they will stonewall you or tap
>>>> dance
>>>> around it.
>>>
>>> Have you tried?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like with many
>>>>> other products, we don't know about the, possibly detrimental, impact
>>>>> they can have when they are created and taken into use. It's what we
>>>>> do when we find out that counts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The detrimental effects have been know by doctors and scientists for a
>>>> while.
>>>
>>> And there has been talk about the effects for a while.
>>>
>>
>> Talk is not action.
>
>You are not doing a fucking thing to achieve any "action," you disgusting
>cocksucking lying Russian troll.
>
>>>
>>>> Same was the case with glyphosate which was based on agent orange ages
>>>> ago.
>>>
>>> Have you asked yourself why no one uses Agent Orange anymore? Maybe
>>> it's because the bureaucrats and politicians did some meddling.
>>> But glyphosate has relatively low toxicity for people,
>>>
>>
>> Say the corporations and their yes men.
>
>More bullshit Russian troll lying.
>

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 09:44:59 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:0qbpajh5dfhet0ei2vtss04s1c0ce274hi@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:35:03 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>news:5eikajhaar0mtkvp5ketls5tg0dc38un1q@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 21:10:44 -0400, Jones <remailer@domain.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... [Career government employees of every ilk] illegally create policy
>>>>> and do everything they can to thwart progress or
>>>>>improvement.
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure you can provide a well documented example of that... right?
>>>>
>>>
>>>You need examples of everything because you know nothing.
>>
>>And here we go again. Luckily I have a lot of patience, so I'll
>>explain it once more. When I ask for evidence it's not because I want
>>to learn about it from that person. At that point I've already looked
>>into it and know how things stand. I ask for evidence because when
>>they fail to produce it I've exposed their lies.
>>
>
>And when are you going to expose the MSM lies?

When I find one. In the meantime why don't you do it? And remember,
"expose" means find the real truth, provide the evidence, and then
show that the MSM source knew that truth, but chose to lie about it.

For an expert researcher like you this is second nature, I know, but I
just want to make sure that we speak the same language.

>Running to the MSM is how you always "look into it"? What a joke.

Give me an example of me "Running to the MSM" Nine out of ten times I
find the original source, and I never settle for an opinion piece.
You, on the other hand... Here, let me give you an example:

You go to Rumormillnews, find a link to an X-post where someone is
linking to another poster, who says 'EV's are shit. They burn all the
time!'

I find the stats from a few independent sources that show that EV's
are less likely then ICV's to catch fire.

See the difference?

--
Malte Runz

On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 23:05:29 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>>>>>>but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>>>Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>>>elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>>>troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And does that make it alright?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope. It's politics.
>>>>>Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>>>>
>>>>Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par with
>>>>Adolf Hitler.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are run by the
>>>deep state.
>>
>>Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't Putin who
>>ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>>
>
>It's unknown who the order came from. ...

No, it's not.

https://tinyurl.com/33a25h5b
"Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian troops into two
separatist-held regions in eastern Ukraine in a military escalation
that Western leaders have warned could lead to massive consequences
for Moscow.

Putin signed the decrees ordering the troop deployment on February 21
after announcing his decision to recognize the independence of the two
regions, a move that was swiftly condemned by Western leaders fearful
of major conflict on the European continent."

https://tinyurl.com/25zc7whc
Putin's speech right before the attack.
"... We have been left no other option to protect Russia and our
people, but for the one that we will be forced to use today. The
situation requires us to take decisive and immediate action. The
people’s republics of Donbas turned to Russia with a request for help.

“In this regard, in accordance with Article 51 of Part 7 of the UN
Charter, with the approval of the Federation Council of Russia and in
pursuance of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance ratified
by the Duma on February 22 with the Donetsk People’s Republic and the
Luhansk People’s Republic, I decided to launch a special military
operation. ..."

Do you understand the words "I decided to launch a special military
operation."?

See what a little google research can uncover!

> ... It could have been a General.

I know you don't believe that, and now I know that you know it was
Putin who "decided to launch a special military operation".

Another example of you not doing your own research but decided to spew
blather instead.
>
>
>>
>>>The deep state is what Putin is trying to eradicate, not the people of
>>>Ukraine, fool. ...
>>
>>Do you believe Putin when he explains how Ukraine is really a part of
>>Russia and has no right to exist as a sovereign nation? Do you need me
>>to link to his 'manifesto' again? Last time I did so, you claimed to
>>already have read it. Okay... once more:
>>http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>>
>>"I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in
>>partnership with Russia.
>>
>
>A partnership sounds alright.

To someone like you, yes, I'm sure a partnership with Putin sounds
alright. Together you can get rid of the troublemakers, right.
>
>
>>
>>Our spiritual, human and civilizational ties
>>formed for centuries and have their origins in the same sources, they
>>have been hardened by common trials, achievements and victories. Our
>>kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in
>>the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and
>>Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families.
>>Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more
>>successful. For we are one people."
>>
>
>That sounds okay. Nothing aggressive there.

Of course it sounds fine to you. The talk about 'blood and soil' and
'one people'. You love that shit.
>
>
>>
>>>... Why do you believe the MSM lies?
>>
>>"For we are one people." Putin's words, motherfucker.
>>
>
>That's unity. ...

No, it isn't. It's assimilation. The Ukrainians do not want to be "one
people" under Putin's Russia.

> ... You prefer division and conflict? I think you have mental
>problems.

I prefer people being able to choose for themselves, and not having
the big neighbor telling them they are "one people", and in order to
prove it Big Brother is laying waste to their country..
>
>>
>>>>>>>You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of
>>>>>>>ignorance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Strawman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Not really.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, really. I'm not ignorant about what you call systemic corruption.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes you are because you still believe the corrupt MSM, left political
>>>party
>>>etc. etc.
>>
>>Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Wake me up when your done blowing your
>>strawman.
>>
>
>Everything you say is the same as what the radical left MSM says.

You keep forgetting to add 'extreme'.

(snip)

>>>No I don't follow the MSM and political left.
>>
>>Another keeper. Yes, I know you don't know what 'MSM and the political
>>left' actually say. One thing you are getting completely wrong is that
>>you think the political left is aligned with MSM. I'll let you in on a
>>little secret. Leftist dislike MSM just as much as you do.
>>
>
>Why do they say the same things then?

They don't! Prove me wrong. Links, quotes, the whole spiel.
>
>
>>
>>>Do you still believe the global warming scam that's for taxing people with
>>>carbon credits and limiting travel?
>>
>>Global warming is real and travel is not limited.
>>>
>
>Global warming and cooling has been happening for billions of years. The
>temp goes up and down.

So, you accept the science that shows the temperature is rising?

>Years ago Al Gore and others claimed that we are doomed, but today we're no
>closer to that.

Yes, we are. Every year is hotter than the previous year. Deserts are
spreading rapidly. Storms are more frequent and stronger. Sea levels
are rising. Your Great Barrier Reef is dying.

>The crooks in power want to bring out yet another tax.
>Battery powered cars are another way to limit our travel ...

"Malte Runz" wrote in message
news:l8juajp9dha1d8b5all957av9di14atbu7@4ax.com...
>
>On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 23:05:29 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(snip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in
>>>>>>>>>Ukraine,
>>>>>>>>>but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>>>>Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>>>>elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>>>>troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And does that make it alright?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope. It's politics.
>>>>>>Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>>>>>
>>>>>Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par with
>>>>>Adolf Hitler.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are run by
>>>>the
>>>>deep state.
>>>
>>>Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't Putin who
>>>ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>>>
>>
>>It's unknown who the order came from. ...
>
>No, it's not.
>
>https://tinyurl.com/33a25h5b
>"Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian troops into two
>separatist-held regions in eastern Ukraine in a military escalation
>that Western leaders have warned could lead to massive consequences
>for Moscow.
>
>Putin signed the decrees ordering the troop deployment on February 21
>after announcing his decision to recognize the independence of the two
>regions, a move that was swiftly condemned by Western leaders fearful
>of major conflict on the European continent."
>
>https://tinyurl.com/25zc7whc
>Putin's speech right before the attack.
>"... We have been left no other option to protect Russia and our
>people, but for the one that we will be forced to use today. The
>situation requires us to take decisive and immediate action. The
>people’s republics of Donbas turned to Russia with a request for help.
>
>“In this regard, in accordance with Article 51 of Part 7 of the UN
>Charter, with the approval of the Federation Council of Russia and in
>pursuance of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance ratified
>by the Duma on February 22 with the Donetsk People’s Republic and the
>Luhansk People’s Republic, I decided to launch a special military
>operation. ..."
>
>Do you understand the words "I decided to launch a special military
>operation."?
>
>See what a little google research can uncover!
>
>> ... It could have been a General.
>
>I know you don't believe that, and now I know that you know it was
>Putin who "decided to launch a special military operation".
>
>Another example of you not doing your own research but decided to spew
>blather instead.
>>

Putin ordered an attack on key locations where the enemy resides. He didn't
order an attack on the whole country of Ukraine and its people like the MSM
claims.

>>
>>>
>>>>The deep state is what Putin is trying to eradicate, not the people of
>>>>Ukraine, fool. ...
>>>
>>>Do you believe Putin when he explains how Ukraine is really a part of
>>>Russia and has no right to exist as a sovereign nation? Do you need me
>>>to link to his 'manifesto' again? Last time I did so, you claimed to
>>>already have read it. Okay... once more:
>>>http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
>>>
>>>"I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in
>>>partnership with Russia.
>>>
>>
>>A partnership sounds alright.
>
>To someone like you, yes, I'm sure a partnership with Putin sounds
>alright. Together you can get rid of the troublemakers, right.
>>

You don't know as much about Putin as you think. You only hear about him
from the real enemy that the MSM never talks about, because the same enemy
controls them.
And you can't see purpose of all this - to create another world war.

>>
>>>
>>>Our spiritual, human and civilizational ties
>>>formed for centuries and have their origins in the same sources, they
>>>have been hardened by common trials, achievements and victories. Our
>>>kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in
>>>the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and
>>>Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families.
>>>Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more
>>>successful. For we are one people."
>>>
>>
>>That sounds okay. Nothing aggressive there.
>
>Of course it sounds fine to you. The talk about 'blood and soil' and
>'one people'. You love that shit.
>>

You love the lying MSM, the mouthpiece of the real enemy.

>>
>>>
>>>>... Why do you believe the MSM lies?
>>>
>>>"For we are one people." Putin's words, motherfucker.
>>>
>>
>>That's unity. ...
>
>No, it isn't. It's assimilation. The Ukrainians do not want to be "one
>people" under Putin's Russia.
>

You've been completely brainwashed.

>
>> ... You prefer division and conflict? I think you have mental
>>problems.
>
>I prefer people being able to choose for themselves, and not having
>the big neighbor telling them they are "one people", and in order to
>prove it Big Brother is laying waste to their country..
>>

The crooked MSM tells you all this.

>>>
>>>>>>>>You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of
>>>>>>>>ignorance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Strawman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not really.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, really. I'm not ignorant about what you call systemic corruption.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes you are because you still believe the corrupt MSM, left political
>>>>party
>>>>etc. etc.
>>>
>>>Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Wake me up when your done blowing your
>>>strawman.
>>>
>>
>>Everything you say is the same as what the radical left MSM says.
>
>You keep forgetting to add 'extreme'.
>
>(snip)
>
>>>>No I don't follow the MSM and political left.
>>>
>>>Another keeper. Yes, I know you don't know what 'MSM and the political
>>>left' actually say. One thing you are getting completely wrong is that
>>>you think the political left is aligned with MSM. I'll let you in on a
>>>little secret. Leftist dislike MSM just as much as you do.
>>>
>>
>>Why do they say the same things then?
>
>They don't! Prove me wrong. Links, quotes, the whole spiel.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>Do you still believe the global warming scam that's for taxing people
>>>>with
>>>>carbon credits and limiting travel?
>>>
>>>Global warming is real and travel is not limited.
>>>>
>>
>>Global warming and cooling has been happening for billions of years. The
>>temp goes up and down.
>
>So, you accept the science that shows the temperature is rising?
>

In article <ANArO.62407$loRc.61063@fx11.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>
> [bullshit fake newsgroup alt.politics.trump removed]
>
>
> On 8/3/2024 4:44 PM, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>
> > "Malte Runz"  wrote in message news:0qbpajh5dfhet0ei2vtss04s1c0ce274hi@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 22:35:03 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>
> >>
> >>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message
> >>> news:5eikajhaar0mtkvp5ketls5tg0dc38un1q@4ax.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 21:10:44 -0400, Jones <remailer@domain.invalid>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> ... [Career government employees of every ilk] illegally create policy
> >>>>> and do everything they can to thwart progress or
> >>>>> improvement.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure you can provide a well documented example of that... right?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You need examples of everything because you know nothing.
> >>
> >> And here we go again. Luckily I have a lot of patience, so I'll
> >> explain it once more. When I ask for evidence it's not because I want
> >> to learn about it from that person. At that point I've already looked
> >> into it and know how things stand. I ask for evidence because when
> >> they fail to produce it I've exposed their lies.
> >>
> >
> > And when are you going to expose the MSM lies?
>
> There haven't been any. People who blabber about "MSM lies" are nothing but
> lying trolls.

I watched Trump speak last night. I watched CNN this morning and they
reported just the opposite of what he said.

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>Putin ordered an attack on key locations where the enemy resides. He didn't
>order an attack on the whole country of Ukraine and its people like the MSM
>claims.

Yes, he did.

#nevertrump

"Why Russia Will Lose the War"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbMs9SK7iM>

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>You don't know as much about Putin as you think. You only hear about him
>from the real enemy that the MSM never talks about, because the same enemy
>controls them.

I don't know why you think we value the lies of a Russian troll over the reports of the
free, western media, but we do.

>And you can't see purpose of all this - to create another world war.

Better to wage a world war, better to burn it all down that let an asshole like Putin
think we'll let him run the world.

#nevertrump

"Russia's Massive Naval Problem is Getting Worse"
"Q: What do you call a newly built battle ship? A: A submarine."
Russia sees a proud and powerful defense system. The rest of the world sees something
only a little more scary than a rubber ducky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kqte77ekwo

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>>Of course it sounds fine to you. The talk about 'blood and soil' and
>>'one people'. You love that shit.
>>>
>
>You love the lying MSM, the mouthpiece of the real enemy.

"Ukraine SINKS Massive $300M Russian Submarine In Crimea; Putin FURIOUS | Breaking News
With Enforcer"
Ukraine sinks the submarine "Rostov-on-Don". The sub was undergoing repairs at Sevastopol
from a previous Ukrainian attack but is now at the bottom of the Black Sea. Ukraine has
sunk or damaged beyond repair, a third of the Black Seafloor Fleet.
The Crimea attack yesterday also took out four S-400 launchers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyC4BWhfTpM

#nevertrump

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>>No, it isn't. It's assimilation. The Ukrainians do not want to be "one
>>people" under Putin's Russia.
>>
>
>You've been completely brainwashed.

Ukraine lived under domination by Muscovy for centuries.

They don't like it.

The Poles don't like it.

The Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians don't like it.

The Georgians don't like it.

The Armenians don't like it.

The Kazakhs don't like it.

#nevertrump

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>>I prefer people being able to choose for themselves, and not having
>>the big neighbor telling them they are "one people", and in order to
>>prove it Big Brother is laying waste to their country..
>>>
>
>The crooked MSM tells you all this.

The free western media isn't as crooked as every Russian ever born.

#nevertrump

On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 23:49:19 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>>So, you accept the science that shows the temperature is rising?
>>
>
>In some countries its falling.

No, it isn't.

>Here in Australia we are having some of the
>coldest and longest winters ever.

You're not in Australia. You're in Russia. That's why it feels so cold.

#nevertrump

Malte Runz wrote:
> They burn all the
> time

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66afa9bc$0$212418$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <v8o7fb$4932$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>> news:v8o0t1$31nv$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> > news:l8juajp9dha1d8b5all957av9di14atbu7@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 23:05:29 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >>>news:pkopaj52j96ca8smvhb70ag1iviq2d30ev@4ax.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:47:36 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:65qnaj9h7jtrc497e90qtb9f5a54dmallf@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:47:38 +1000, "Andrew W"
>> >>>>>><space@defense.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>news:9pphaj51bc9ak2q24n79p8rujfcktl3mn5@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W"
>> >>>>>>>><space@defense.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W"
>> >>>>>>>>>><space@defense.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>(snip)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>You're wrong on both counts. ...
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only
>> >>>>>>>>>>in Ukraine,
>> >>>>>>>>>>but also how he deals with his political opposition in
>> >>>>>>>>>>Russia. Remember when you said that the journalist Putin
>> >>>>>>>>>>had killed in the elevator deserved it, because she was
>> >>>>>>>>>>probably a 'dangerous troublemaker'?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>And does that make it alright?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Nope. It's politics.
>> >>>>>>>Show me some hard facts about Putin instead of just hearsay.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine. He's a war criminal on par
>> >>>>>>with Adolf Hitler.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Funny how that's exactly what MSNBC and CNN etc. say which are
>> >>>>>run by the
>> >>>>>deep state.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ignoring the usual deep state crap, are you saying it wasn't
>> >>>>Putin who ordered the attack on Ukraine?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>It's unknown who the order came from. ...
>> >>
>> >>No, it's not.
>> >>
>> >>https://tinyurl.com/33a25h5b
>> >>"Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian troops into
>> >>two separatist-held regions in eastern Ukraine in a military
>> >>escalation that Western leaders have warned could lead to massive
>> >>consequences for Moscow.
>> >>
>> >>Putin signed the decrees ordering the troop deployment on February
>> >>21 after announcing his decision to recognize the independence of
>> >>the two regions, a move that was swiftly condemned by Western
>> >>leaders fearful of major conflict on the European continent."
>> >>
>> >>https://tinyurl.com/25zc7whc
>> >>Putin's speech right before the attack.
>> >>"... We have been left no other option to protect Russia and our
>> >>people, but for the one that we will be forced to use today. The
>> >>situation requires us to take decisive and immediate action. The
>> >>people�?s republics of Donbas turned to Russia with a request for
>> >>help.
>> >>
>> >>⤽In this regard, in accordance with Article 51 of Part 7 of the
>> >>UN Charter, with the approval of the Federation Council of Russia
>> >>and in pursuance of the treaties of friendship and mutual
>> >>assistance ratified by the Duma on February 22 with the Donetsk
>> >>People�?s Republic and the Luhansk People�?s Republic, I decided
>> >>to launch a special military operation. ..."
>> >>
>> >>Do you understand the words "I decided to launch a special military
>> >>operation."?
>> >>
>> >>See what a little google research can uncover!
>> >>
>> >>> ... It could have been a General.
>> >>
>> >>I know you don't believe that, and now I know that you know it was
>> >>Putin who "decided to launch a special military operation".
>> >>
>> >>Another example of you not doing your own research but decided to
>> >>spew blather instead.
>> >>>
>> >
>> > Putin ordered an attack on key locations where the enemy resides.
>> > He didn't order an attack on the whole country of Ukraine and its
>> > people like the MSM claims.
>> >
>> So if Putin attacked Alaska, that would not be an attack on "the
>> whole country of" the United States?!!! What kind of traitorous
>> idiot are you?
>
> Yes it would be you idiot.
>

Then how is an attack "on key locations" in Ukrain not an attack on the
country/nation of Ukraine?

Baxter wrote:
> how is an attack "on key locations" in Ukrain not an attack on the
> country/nation of Ukraine?

Sign up and find out, greaseball.

Michael A Terrell wrote:
> I have well over $1 million in retirement savings.

The better to attach in judgment.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

On 8/4/2024 7:00 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <hvxrO.13830$1Gdb.4985@fx04.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 8/1/2024 10:43 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <ag6lajltg21t1bnqnras01kp56lufgeat3@4ax.com>,
>>> twang@the.noodle says...
>>>>
>>>> Jones wrote:
>>>>> In <hebqO.2$gJuc.1@fx10.iad> louise wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/29/2024 11:08 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>> What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil Service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not what they mean.
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill is an idiot too. Career government employees of every ilk have
>>>>> something to protect, their retirement scams on the public dime. They
>>>>> illegally create policy and do everything they can to thwart progress or
>>>>> improvement.
>>>>
>>>> Civil servants already have their retirement plans
>>>> guaranteed by the full faith & credit of the gov't.
>>>> Whether they "illegally create policy" is irrelevant to
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Swill is not an idiot, but you sure look like one.
>>>
>>> Swill is my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior.
>>
>> That's right.
>
> and he hates you.

He doesn't. He dislikes my posting style, but he agrees with most of what I
post, and occasionally he responds to one of my pseudonyms that he *knows* is me
and expresses that agreement. I agree with the large majority of what he posts.

He really is your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and
physical superior, and it's not a close call. You are profoundly stupid. And I
know that Swill dislikes your stupid, petulant posting style more than he hates
my style. And he disagrees with you on virtually everything, and he's right and
you're wrong.