On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:15:14 -0400, Deke <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:

>In <zPWpO.250313$SLqf.40925@fx15.iad> "Lou" wrote:
>>
>> On 7/29/2024 5:32 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>news:XnsB1BE514276A09629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>
>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v878dq$bkno$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:XnsB1BD539B2ED94629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>>>> news:q4ubaj5bd9a3utio7opp3ugfp39c91d1sa@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>>> <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep
>>>>>>> state is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    And you cannot prove it exists either. Typical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your statement is silly and ignorant. How can a multi centuries old
>>>>> complex network of systemic corruption be 'proven' on usenet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     That is your problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have a problem of understanding how the world works.
>>
>> No, you have. Everything you think you know about how the world works is
>false â€â€?
>> 100% of it. You don't know your asshole from your ear.
>
>You have a problem lying about it all. You even lie when the sun rises.

Rudy is a Republican? Who knew?

#nevertrump

They've gone stone blind. Starting with 2016 they've been steadily losing ground in
Congress, Governors' Mansions and Statehouses. Democrats ought to be celebrating Trump.
Nothing else could have done as much damage to the GOP.

On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:34:00 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
>>>>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep
>>>>>> state is.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you cannot prove it exists either. Typical.
>>>>
>>>> Your statement is silly and ignorant. How can a multi centuries old
>>>> complex network of systemic corruption be 'proven' on usenet?
>>>
>>> That is your problem.
>>
>> You have a problem of understanding how the world works.
>
> No one understands how your world works.
>
> "It's the deep state"
> "It's the Jewish bankers"
> "It's the Rothschilds"
> "It's Opus Dei"
> "It's Skull and Bones"

The list of things he blames for his own shortcomings is far longer than that.

>>>> There is tons of evidence though.
>>>
>>> Then post it.
>>
>> That would take weeks.

The sooner you start, the sooner you'll be done.

> You have been dodging requests for
>proof for years.

The only thing Andrew has is lice.

#nevertrump

Btw, Trump has stated plainly that if he can ally with the Russians, who are allies of
Iran, they can help him become President and he will gladly accept any help he can get
from the Russians to help him win.

On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:48:08 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:b9qfaj5i1qur5uu2645trm6cl4v7pae1ge@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:09:43 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Delma T. Ivey" wrote in message news:O3gpO.189829$ySE.75566@fx11.iad...
>>>>
>>>>On 7/27/2024 5:00 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>> news:u056ajpt7jhh03ihvmc3t20soc6lp08jln@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 09:19:08 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it wasn't for Trump you'd have still never heard of the deep state
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is the true cancer that's been silently destroying democracy and
>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Deep State was the treatment for Trumpism. The ballot box is the
>>>>>> cure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #nevertrump
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And what do you know about the deep state?
>>>>
>>>>I know that there isn't any such thing. It's just an imaginary bogeyman
>>>>for
>>>>you, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>How do you know? Do you know everything?
>>>You seem to suffer from Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
>>
>>Copy pasting the same A.I. generated result from a site called
>>'search.brave.com' three times puts you 'top left on the D-K curve'.
>>
>>>
>>>https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>
>You just can't handle reality.

You can't do your own research and use A.I. to speak for you instead.

--
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>
>>All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>troublemaker'?
>>
>
>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.

And does that make it alright?

>You unwittingly and indirectly defend systemic corruption out of ignorance.

Strawman.

>That's worse.

Ignorance can be 'cured'. Your kind of stupid is a different matter
altogether.
>
>
>>
>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>freedom.
>>
>>What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>
>
>Freedom from overtaxing to live the lives we want to live for a start.

How much tax are you willing to pay? Remember, your costumers need
roads to drive on to get to you shop.

>Freedom from media propaganda.

So... some outlets should not be allowed to voice their opinion just
because you categorize it as "propaganda"?

>Freedom form dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our lives.

Do you regard regulations WRT pollution and contamination of the
environment "meddling in our lives"?

>Freedom from being poisoned by chemicals.

Like not having pesticides in your drinking water?

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"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
news:v89nmk$sere$1@dont-email.me:

> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>
>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>
>
> No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and
> allegations.

It is just a coincidence
that Putin critic keep falling
out of windows.

On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>
>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>
>
>No evidence was ever found of such. ...

And the Russian police looked and looked and looked!

> ... It's just speculation and allegations.

For the umpteenth time. Putin and his people around him make sure that
everyone knows, or at least suspect, that Putin is behind all the
assassinations. It's 'How to be a effective despot 1.01'. Keep people
afraid.

I thought you, the expert on how to control people, would have known
that.

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On 7/29/2024 8:46 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>
>> No.  He does not.  Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>
>
> No evidence was ever found of such.

Incontrovertible evidence of it has been found, you Nazi cocksucker.

On 7/29/2024 7:57 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
> news:fq4faj1ba0e9sgvcggepbftr4mrfbsb6a8@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:57:11 -0700, ugly black olympics 2024
>> <too-many-blacks@disney.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/28/2024 7:14 PM, El Kabong wrote:
>>>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>>>> So why don't you describe it for us?  Or is it such a Secret Society that
>>>>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>>>>
>>>> Lok them up!
>>>> Lok them up!
>>>> Lol.
>>>>
>>>> Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>>>>
>>>> Go to <http://deepstate.org>  What does it say?  "The
>>>
>>> Are you Holman's retarded gay little brother?
>>>
>>> https://www.govexec.com/feature/gov-exec-deconstructing-deep-state/
>>
>> "As the Trump era has unfolded, the term “deep state” has come to mean
>> something sinister
>> to some on the far right. More than just signifying an impersonal, inept
>> bureaucracy, it
>> conjures a secretive illuminati of bureaucrats determined to sabotage the
>> Trump agenda."
>>
>> <laughs and points>
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>> What a bunch of loons!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>
> So you just believe whatever articles say?

There is no "deep state."

On 7/30/2024 12:16 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <ho8qO.134726$BFg.27313@fx13.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 9:13 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:37:39 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No evidence was ever found of such. ...
>>>>
>>>> And the Russian police looked and looked and looked!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ... It's just speculation and allegations.
>>>>
>>>> For the umpteenth time. Putin and his people around him make sure that
>>>> everyone knows, or at least suspect, that Putin is behind all the
>>>> assassinations. It's 'How to be a effective despot 1.01'. Keep people
>>>> afraid.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you, the expert on how to control people, would have known
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> She does.
>>
>> Andrea W is a troll and nothing but a troll.
>
> Same as

you. Yes.

In article <mvlfajtl2hp6ll1tpvt32jnc638u1atbns@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:50:35 -0700, Al Feldhauser <kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:
>
> >On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
> >>>
> >>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
> >>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
> >>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by the
> >>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying Trump is
> >>>>> corrupt?  Or
> >>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
> >>>
> >>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's no
> >>> such thing.
> >>>
> >>
> >> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.
> >
> >Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.
> >
> >There is no "deep state"
>
> What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil Service. These workers are bound by
> rules and obligations and circumscribed by law. They may not do just anything they want
> to do, or just whatever the Executive says to do - that is for Kings and dictators. But
> we live in a country that is ruled by *law*. You don't plow in with a digger and rip it
> all out while assuming something better will grow back. You change it appropriately
> through the prescribed channels.
>
> This is what they really mean by deep state. The simple fact that their President cannot
> rule as a dictator but is bound by laws, rules and regulations passed in previous terms to
> address needs and abuses in the administration of the country.
>
> The existence of the difficult-to-change bureaucracy is itself a check and balance against
> excessive exercise of power by the Executive. These same people begging Trump to drain
> the swamp, to terminate the Constitution, to be a dictator, even for a day, would be the
> FIRST to start screaming if it was *their* swamp being drained by a Democrat.
>
> That MAGA and Trump are so eager to destroy everything built up over the past 250 years
> and replace it with a Medieval King by Divine Right is telling. The right has no interest
> in democracy. They only want to destroy the 'other' and ensure that only their own kind
> can survive.

What a load of shit.

AMERICA FIRST

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realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <iocgajle0cmhjg73tnq6nqqlg8ktkc15e8@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
> You're lying. Civil service workers don't MAKE policy, they enforce it and are bound by
> it. You want them to do something different? Pass legislation to change the rules.
>

They do what they want. We have no choice.

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realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

On 7/29/2024 11:08 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:50:35 -0700, Al Feldhauser <kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by the
>>>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying Trump is
>>>>>> corrupt?  Or
>>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>
>>>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's no
>>>> such thing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.
>>
>> Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>>
>> There is no "deep state"
>
> What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil Service.

That's not what they mean. What they mean is a subset of the civil service who
are operating in planned and coordinated manner, directed by sinister hidden
puppet masters ("Obama," "Soros," etc.), to thwart a president's agenda. And not
just any president — Trump. Trump is the only president whose minions and
lackeys have pissed and moaned about a "deep state."

In article <bicgaj1d0qlm7qmi2q391iln4p4o4a7h9k@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:18:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
> >===============
> >In politics and government, a spoils system (also known as a patronage
> >system) is a practice in which a political party, after winning an
> >election, gives government jobs to its supporters, friends (cronyism),
> >and relatives (nepotism) as a reward for working toward victory, and as
> >an incentive to keep working for the party?as opposed to a merit system,
> >where offices are awarded or promoted on the basis of some measure of
> >merit, independent of political activity.
> >
> >The term was used particularly in politics of the United States, where
> >the federal government operated on a spoils system until the Pendleton
> >Act was passed in 1883 due to a civil service reform movement. Thereafter
> >the spoils system was largely replaced by nonpartisan merit at the
> >federal level of the United States.
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system
>
> Trump wants a return to the spoils system.
>
> #nevertrump
>
> Trump is weak; a bully and a coward.
> He withdrew from Syria, he withdrew from Iraq, he withdrew from Somalia, he withdrew from
> Afghanistan, he even withdrew from Germany. Wherever he saw America defending freedom he
> withdrew and surrendered. Even now he is wanting to withdraw from NATO and give Europe to
> Putin.

Wrong troll.

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On 7/30/2024 12:27 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <bfcgajpsb8t0gh1poilol8hanl86danhm5@4ax.com>,
> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>
>> A once thriving Ukrainian city liberated by Russia from all life and any kind of future.
>> There won?t be any people living in those ruins anymore. Russian fascism = death and
>> desolation to whatever it touches." Images:
>> <https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1816814471681118523>
>>
>> Sláva Ukrajíni!
>
> Like the 2020 riots which were mostly peaceful.

Most of the 2020 protests *were* peaceful. None were intended to overthrow any
government.

In article <5o3gaj1kfmu0316s444m64qe9c66g18ia8@4ax.com>,
twang@the.noodle says...
>
> Andrew W wrote:
> > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> ...
> > > You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
> >
> > Research it yourself.
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u
> >
> > Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
> > concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
>
> <snip>
>
> Well, some AI engine says "systemic corruption" exists.
> That pretty much proves Deep State and Illuminati are
> real, and all conspiracy theories are true.
>
> Of course, the conspiracy theorists would never have a
> corrupt hair on their couched-out bodies.

Fuck AI. Man made to say what man wants it to say.

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In article <toigajlkdbh1k66pamcsqnsh313qb5vdh0@4ax.com>,
twang@the.noodle says...
>
> Andrew W wrote:
> > "El Kabong" wrote in message
> > >Andrew W wrote:
> > >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> > >...
> > >> > You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
> > >>
> > >> Research it yourself.
> > >>
> > >> https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u
> > >>
> > >> Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
> > >> concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
> > >
> > >Well, some AI engine says "systemic corruption" exists.
> > >That pretty much proves Deep State and Illuminati are
> > >real, and all conspiracy theories are true.
> >
> > And you have what exactly? Denials and smears?
> > If you have more smarts and information resources than AI then show it.
>
> I have evidence, but you wouldn't understand it.

Translation: I have nothing. AI is like the bible. Written by man to say
whatever man wants it to say.
>
>
> > >Of course, the conspiracy theorists would never have a
> > >corrupt hair on their couched-out bodies.
> >
> > Who popularised the term 'conspiracy theory', and why?
> > When you can answer that question then you will have graduated.
>
> Let me guess... the CIA invented the term "conspiracy
> theory" as a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theories.
>
> What do I win?

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In <ZXXpO.220422$z2Mf.78151@fx16.iad> Rudy pooted:
>
> On 7/29/2024 4:07 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message
news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "El Kabong"  wrote in message
>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>
>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>> troublemaker'?
>>>
>>
>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>
> Bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. Most political leaders do not imprison
their
> opponents on bogus charges and then murder them.

Like Democrats were doing in Puerto Rico...?

>
>>
>>>
>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>> freedom.
>>>
>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>
>>
>> Freedom from overtaxing to live the lives we want to live for a start.
>
> You're not overtaxed.

Wasted. The taxes are being wasted on mentally ill gay perverts.

>> Freedom from media propaganda.
>
> You don't have a right to be free of propaganda,

That's true, and because of the dishonest left-wing hogwash not selling,
many of the mass media companies are putting up paywalls or ad-blocking
detection.

Guess what that does to their market.

>> Freedom form dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our lives.
>
> You don't have a right to be free from that.

Yes we do.

>> Freedom from being poisoned by chemicals.
>
> Your government is working to *prevent* your being poisoned by chemicals.

Like COVID vaccines?

On 7/30/2024 12:31 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:21:37 -0700, Michael A Terrell
> <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>
>> On 7/30/2024 12:10 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com>,
>>> nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>
>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>
>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>> freedom.
>>>>
>>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>
>>> Just like the left people who say they wished the shooter wouldn't have
>>> missed.
>>
>> You can't identify anyone who expressed such a wish. You're making shit up and
>> talking out your asshole again.
>
> I wish Trump had died that day. Not with a bullet in his head, but
> rather of a massive stroke in his bed that morning. Would have saved
> Corey Comperatore's life.

You have a good point about Comperatore.

I no longer wish for Trump to become dead, although I certainly would not mourn
for even a second if he were to do so. What I wish for is the same massive
stroke, but that he *survive* it. I want him to crippled, incapacitated, unable
(or barely able) to speak, clearly incapable of running for president, but
*fully aware* of his debilitated state. A relative of mine had a severe
hemorrhagic stroke that left her left arm completely paralyzed. She had very
limited use of her left leg; could walk a little, but only with great
difficulty. She spent most of the rest of her life in a wheelchair. She actually
regained most of her mental faculties, but her cognitive ability was damaged.
She also had little control of her emotions, either laughing or sobbing for no
detectable reason. That's what I want for Trump. That's what all right-thinking
persons want for Trump. He needs to suffer, and be fully aware of his suffering.

On 7/30/2024 12:35 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <gUVpO.114112$xYQc.29412@fx12.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
> says...
>>
>> On 7/29/2024 4:34 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:t%NpO.23472$6fNc.7771@fx33.iad...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by the
>>>>>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying Trump
>>>>>>>> is corrupt?  Or
>>>>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's
>>>>>> no such thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>>>>
>>>> There is no "deep state"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your profane and denialist responses say everything about you.
>>
>> There is no "deep state." That's just false conspiratorial right-wingnut bullshit.
>
> You know better.

I *do* know. I know there is no "deep state" as you fucktards conceive of it.

> Do you think Joe just decided to step down?

He was persuaded by prominent Democrats. He made the choice.

Michael A Terrell wrote:
>
> Most of the 2020 protests *were* peaceful.

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keegan and a dozen other socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Lou Bricano wrote:
> That's not what they mean.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Michael A Terrell wrote:
> you'd know what it means.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:21:58 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>A once thriving Ukrainian city liberated by Russia from all life and any kind of future.
>There won’t be any people living in those ruins anymore. Russian fascism = death and
>desolation to whatever it touches." Images:
><https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1816814471681118523>
>
>Sláva Ukrajíni!

All we need now is Andrew going 'It's probably not even from Ukraine!'

--
Malte Runz

Michael A Terrell wrote:
> you. Yes.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On 7/30/2024 12:46 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:21:58 -0400, Governor Swill
> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> A once thriving Ukrainian city liberated by Russia from all life and any kind of future.
>> There won’t be any people living in those ruins anymore. Russian fascism = death and
>> desolation to whatever it touches." Images:
>> <https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1816814471681118523>
>>
>> Sláva Ukrajíni!
>
> All we need now is Andrew going 'It's probably not even from Ukraine!'

Andrea W is nothing but a troll.