On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 10:49:14 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 19:29:01 -0400, jolly kone lot lizard <remailer@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
>>In <f2taaj1g0abq80am2cb1ph1iufdgmcir3b@4ax.com> Malte Runz
>><nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:>
>>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:12:28 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 01:50:44 +0200, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>>>On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 10:30:27 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 13:48:00 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>>>>nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 18:45:10 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>So you're fine with tRump raping children as long as he doesn't get
>>caught
>>>>>>>>>or can buy his way out of a conviction. What kind of depraved scum
>>are
>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The kind of depraved scum who calls African American women "Apettes"
>>>>>>>> and "Sheboons".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have never done that. If you could prove that it would be nice. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>Piggybacking:
>>>>>
>>>>>https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/Vql6i_bt4oo/m/sYUMULenBAAJ
>>>>>***
>>>>>Sheboon tries the cinnamon challenge
>>>>>
>>>>>Skeeter
>>>>>19. okt. 2020, 17.16.18
>>>>>
>>>>>This Apette would do better to limit her challenges to jenkem.
>>>>>
>>>>>https://youtu.be/Cyk7utV_D2I
>>>>>--
>>>>>If Black is beautiful, I just shit a Masterpiece!
>>>>>***
>>>>>
>>>>>>You support plenty lies but when asked, you NEVER prove them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I only see his posts in other people's replies to him, but I know this
>>>>>is at least the second time he denies having used those words. Tell
>>>>>him to go fuck himself, will ya'.
>>>>
>>>>Done.
>>>>
>>>>Hey, Pissbum! While I'm losing my last vestige of respect for you, here's
>>a message from
>>>>Malte Runz:
>>>>
>>>> ....................../´¯/)
>>>> ....................,/¯../
>>>> .................../..../
>>>> ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
>>>> ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯/
>>>> ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
>>>> ........./.................'...../
>>>> ..........''.../.......... _.·´
>>>> ............/..............(
>>>> ............../............./...
>>>
>>> Sometimes 398 dots, scores, and slashes say as much as two words.
>>
>>What's this say?
>>
>>
>> / \ \ / \
>>| | \ | |
>>` | | \| |
>> \ \/ _--~~ ~--__| \ |
>> \ \_-~ ~-_\ |
>> \_ \ _.--------.______\| |
>> \ \______// _ ___ _ (_(__> \ |
>> \ . C ___) ______ (_(____> | /
>> /\ | C _||_)/ \ (_____> |_/
>> / /\| C_____) | (___> / \
>> | ( _C_____)\______/ // _/ / \
>> | \ |__ \\_________// (__/ |
>> | \ \____) `---- --' |
>> | \_ ___\ /_ _/ |
>> | / | | \ |
>> | | / \ \ |
>> | / / | | \ |
>> | / / \__/\___/ | |
>> | / / | | | |
>> | | | | | |
>
>Can't tell. It's kind of a mish mash.
>
>#nevertrump

He's being cheeky,

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"Chips Loral" <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote in message
news:v85r9m$ire$12@dont-email.me...
<snip>
> For once, LEARN...cornholer.
<snip>
"People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a
confession of character." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

[One's opinion confesses one's character.] [Ralph Waldo Emerson, paraphrased]

(See also: Matthew 12:34- ..."For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth
speaks." -Jesus of Nazareth.)

Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> >>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
> >>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And now, the facts:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
> >>>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
> >>>>>>tyranny.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
> >>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
> >>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
> >> is.
> >>
> >
> >So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society that
> >no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>
> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.

Lok them up!
Lok them up!
Lol.

Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:

Go to <http://deepstate.org> What does it say? "The
domain name deepstate.org is for sale!" $14,547, or make
an offer. Similar for deepstate.com and deepstate.net.

In the 21st century, how can such a huge entity not have
a website?

Welllll.... ?

On 7/28/2024 7:14 PM, El Kabong wrote:
> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
>>>>>>>> the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>>>>>>>> tyranny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>>>>> Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society that
>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>
>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>
> Lok them up!
> Lok them up!
> Lol.
>
> Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>
> Go to <http://deepstate.org> What does it say? "The

Are you Holman's retarded gay little brother?

https://www.govexec.com/feature/gov-exec-deconstructing-deep-state/

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:idkdaj9mg3ei4klldbpppqu4rqq50n8eea@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 13:05:34 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
> <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>news:q4ubaj5bd9a3utio7opp3ugfp39c91d1sa@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and
>>>>>>>>>> RINO prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were
>>>>>>>>take-downs by the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's
>>>>>>>>totalitarianism and tyranny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you
>>>>>>>saying Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep
>>>> state is.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society
>>>that no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>
>>Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>
> Translation: "There's no such thing. I'm just a parrot for the loony
> right."
>
Blue Lives Matter is admitting he has no idea what the Deep State is.
Yes, he's just a parrot.

"Lou Bricano" wrote in message news:kKdhO.7$KOB8.2@fx33.iad...
>
>On 7/3/2024 12:38 AM, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>
>> "Lou Bricano" wrote in message news:mO2hO.4$cr5e.0@fx05.iad...
>>>
>>> On 7/2/2024 7:21 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:09:36 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling HIV-oozing
>>>> Nazi whore, lied:
>
>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>> news:5rd88jlqrd84nrd0mr3cd3souq22a53786@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:49:01 +1000, Andrea W, lying trolling
>>>>>> HIV-oozing Nazi whore, lied:
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Marika" wrote
>>>>>>>> I hate to say it but the best thing that could happen is if both
>>>>>>>> trump
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> biden died soon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any better politician available these days?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any politician would be better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the call of the desperate.
>>>>
>>>> Desperate to keep Trump out of the White House.
>>>>
>>>>> Why are Americans and others in a desperate situation? There is a
>>>>> reason.
>>>>> You can't see it.
>>>>
>>>> Neither can you or you would have explained it to us.
>>>
>>> That's one of his troll dimensions: claiming special insight that no one
>>> else has.
>>>
>>
>> No you guys are just blind spastics who
>
>You have no special insight. You can't "see" things that we can't. You're
>just trolling.
>

Give me your definition of insight.

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"Governor Swill" wrote in message
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>
>On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 09:27:01 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>news:XnsB1BC581B4F32F629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>
>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>news:v81o3o$37i45$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>> news:ku88ajdsp3g1t5rmjaq1n0hihsgfcuu2pg@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the
>>>>>entire country."
>>>>> - Anthony Scaramucci
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Listening to and quoting the left is no substitute for thinking
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>#nevertrump
>>>>>NP: Uncle Kracker - I'm Not Leaving
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nevertrumpers are neverthinkers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trumpers think?
>>>
>>
>>If you're an MSM and Dem believer then you certainly don't.
>
>You're a Democrat??
>

No. Why?

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"El Kabong" wrote in message
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>
>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 10:09:36 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>> >"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> >>On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:49:01 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>>"Marika" wrote
>> >>>>I hate to say it but the best thing that could happen is if both
>> >>>>trump
>> >>>>and biden died soon
>> >>>
>> >>>Is there any better politician available these days?
>> >>
>> >>Any politician would be better.
>> >
>> >That's the call of the desperate.
>>
>> Desperate to keep Trump out of the White House.
>
>The great American experiment in democracy is fading in
>the twilight. It's bad enough that the electorate seems
>ok with that, but now the Supremes have joined in.
>
>Goodbye, shining city on the hill. Hello, Putinism.
>
>
>> >Why are Americans and others in a desperate situation? There is a
>> >reason.
>> >You can't see it.
>>
>> Neither can you or you would have explained it to us.
>
>Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>

You're wrong on both counts. I'm against systemic corruption and for
freedom.

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"Governor Swill" wrote in message
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>
>On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 20:47:59 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <v6hrao$12ckh$1@dont-email.me>, space@defense.com says...
>>>
>>> "J Carlson" wrote in message news:v6gsam$tbu7$1@dont-email.me...
><snip>
>>> >Trump *is* the picture of corruption and crime.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Claimed only by Dem voting officials and other Trump haters.
>>
>>I wish he could prove this picture. What a braindead sheep.
>
>I can prove a majority of voters don't like Trump.
>
>2016 Trump 62,984,828 Clinton 65,853,514
>2020 Trump 74,223,975 Biden 81,283,501
>2024 ?
>

With numbers from your Dem biased MSM source? How is that proof?

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"Al Feldhauser" wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>
>On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
>>>> the
>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
>>>
>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying Trump
>>> is corrupt? Or
>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>
>>
>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>
>Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's
>no such thing.
>

F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.

https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u

Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
anti-corruption efforts.

Characteristics of Systemic Corruption

According to the search results, systemic corruption is characterized by:
Networks of corruption: Corruption perpetrated by interconnected networks of
individuals, often involving stable practices and norms (institutionalized).
Embedded in systems: Corruption that serves political or social functions,
emerging through design or dysfunction, and is deeply ingrained in the
fabric of representative democracies.
Pattern of behavior: Corruption that involves more than isolated cases, with
a repeated or habitual nature.
Affects or is embedded in a system: Corruption that permeates and distorts
the functioning of institutions, organizations, or societies.
Examples and Contexts

The search results highlight examples of systemic corruption in various
contexts:
Representative democracies: The book “Systemic Corruption: Constitutional
Ideas for an Anti-Oligarchic Republic” by Camila Vergara argues that modern
liberal democracies have become increasingly oligarchic, suffering from
structural political decay.
Health sector corruption: A study on entrenched corruption in the health
sector notes that corruption is often part of a system, involving networks
of employees and senior officials operating according to well-known
“corruption operating procedures” and guarded by political power.
Developing countries: The Harvard Law School publication “Taming Systemic
Corruption: The American Experience and its Implications for Contemporary
Debates” highlights the challenges of addressing systemic corruption in
developing countries.
Conclusion

In conclusion, based on the search results, systemic corruption is a real
and complex phenomenon, characterized by networks, embeddedness, patterns of
behavior, and distortion of institutional functioning. It can be found in
various contexts, including representative democracies and developing
countries. Addressing systemic corruption requires a nuanced understanding
of its causes and a comprehensive approach to reform, incorporating
institutional innovations and anti-oligarchic measures.

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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:XnsB1BCD0ABCD407629555@185.151.15.190...
>
>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>
>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>>>>tyranny.
>>>
>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>
>>
>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>
>
>
> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>

Research it yourself.

https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u

Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
anti-corruption efforts.

Characteristics of Systemic Corruption

According to the search results, systemic corruption is characterized by:
Networks of corruption: Corruption perpetrated by interconnected networks of
individuals, often involving stable practices and norms (institutionalized).
Embedded in systems: Corruption that serves political or social functions,
emerging through design or dysfunction, and is deeply ingrained in the
fabric of representative democracies.
Pattern of behavior: Corruption that involves more than isolated cases, with
a repeated or habitual nature.
Affects or is embedded in a system: Corruption that permeates and distorts
the functioning of institutions, organizations, or societies.
Examples and Contexts

The search results highlight examples of systemic corruption in various
contexts:
Representative democracies: The book “Systemic Corruption: Constitutional
Ideas for an Anti-Oligarchic Republic” by Camila Vergara argues that modern
liberal democracies have become increasingly oligarchic, suffering from
structural political decay.
Health sector corruption: A study on entrenched corruption in the health
sector notes that corruption is often part of a system, involving networks
of employees and senior officials operating according to well-known
“corruption operating procedures” and guarded by political power.
Developing countries: The Harvard Law School publication “Taming Systemic
Corruption: The American Experience and its Implications for Contemporary
Debates” highlights the challenges of addressing systemic corruption in
developing countries.
Conclusion

In conclusion, based on the search results, systemic corruption is a real
and complex phenomenon, characterized by networks, embeddedness, patterns of
behavior, and distortion of institutional functioning. It can be found in
various contexts, including representative democracies and developing
countries. Addressing systemic corruption requires a nuanced understanding
of its causes and a comprehensive approach to reform, incorporating
institutional innovations and anti-oligarchic measures.

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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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>
>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>news:q4ubaj5bd9a3utio7opp3ugfp39c91d1sa@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
>>>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>>>>>>tyranny.
>>>>>
>>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>
>>
>>
>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
>> is.
>
>
> And you cannot prove it exists either. Typical.
>

Your statement is silly and ignorant. How can a multi centuries old complex
network of systemic corruption be 'proven' on usenet?
There is tons of evidence though. Get out of your cave.

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"Governor Swill" wrote in message
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>
>On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 03:54:35 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
><Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by
>>>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>>>>>>tyranny.
>>>>>
>>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>
>>
>>
>><EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
>>is.
>
>Then enlighten us.
>

Not possible. Woke leftists are unenlightenable.

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"David Hartung" wrote in message news:wovpO.210816$z2Mf.86993@fx16.iad...
>
>On 7/28/2024 10:05 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>> news:q4ubaj5bd9a3utio7opp3ugfp39c91d1sa@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>>>>>>>> tyranny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>>>>> Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society
>>> that
>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>
>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>
>There is no such thing as the "deep state."
>

....according to the MSM which you lot follow like sheep.

Then what if I call it systemic corruption instead?

https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u

Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
anti-corruption efforts.

Characteristics of Systemic Corruption

According to the search results, systemic corruption is characterized by:
Networks of corruption: Corruption perpetrated by interconnected networks of
individuals, often involving stable practices and norms (institutionalized).
Embedded in systems: Corruption that serves political or social functions,
emerging through design or dysfunction, and is deeply ingrained in the
fabric of representative democracies.
Pattern of behavior: Corruption that involves more than isolated cases, with
a repeated or habitual nature.
Affects or is embedded in a system: Corruption that permeates and distorts
the functioning of institutions, organizations, or societies.
Examples and Contexts

The search results highlight examples of systemic corruption in various
contexts:
Representative democracies: The book “Systemic Corruption: Constitutional
Ideas for an Anti-Oligarchic Republic” by Camila Vergara argues that modern
liberal democracies have become increasingly oligarchic, suffering from
structural political decay.
Health sector corruption: A study on entrenched corruption in the health
sector notes that corruption is often part of a system, involving networks
of employees and senior officials operating according to well-known
“corruption operating procedures” and guarded by political power.
Developing countries: The Harvard Law School publication “Taming Systemic
Corruption: The American Experience and its Implications for Contemporary
Debates” highlights the challenges of addressing systemic corruption in
developing countries.
Conclusion

In conclusion, based on the search results, systemic corruption is a real
and complex phenomenon, characterized by networks, embeddedness, patterns of
behavior, and distortion of institutional functioning. It can be found in
various contexts, including representative democracies and developing
countries. Addressing systemic corruption requires a nuanced understanding
of its causes and a comprehensive approach to reform, incorporating
institutional innovations and anti-oligarchic measures.

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"El Kabong" wrote in message
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>
>Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> >Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>> >>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>> >>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> >>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and
>> >>>>>>>> RINO
>> >>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs
>> >>>>>>by
>> >>>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
>> >>>>>>tyranny.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>> >>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
>> >>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
>> >> is.
>> >>
>> >
>> >So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society
>> >that
>> >no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>
>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>
>Lok them up!
>Lok them up!
>Lol.
>
>Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>
>Go to <http://deepstate.org> What does it say? "The
>domain name deepstate.org is for sale!" $14,547, or make
>an offer. Similar for deepstate.com and deepstate.net.
>
>In the 21st century, how can such a huge entity not have
>a website?
>
>Welllll.... ?
>

You can't be that dumb. You must just be trying to be funny. Dan.com simply
reserved the domain.

Do you expect a network of corrupt administrators, corporations and elites
to have a website and advertise?
And no, they're not a single entity.

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"Governor Swill" wrote in message
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>
>On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 13:04:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>news:XnsB1A8D11A2E3B2629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>
>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in news:v6f6dn$ham8$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>> news:XnsB1A859CB7AD81629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>
>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in news:v6e10r$b2qd$1@dont-
>>>email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:XnsB1A7D209CFDA629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in news:v6ciur$hjh$1@dont-
>>>>>email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A753840D665629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>news:v6an0v$3mtjs$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:gefe8j5g56p6f1412ei9i07tc2vo7ce1cn@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:11:32 -0600, Skeeter
>>>>>>>>>>><skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Biden. Even his own is turning on him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Dozen's of Trump's former associates and appointees are warning
>>>us
>>>>>>>>>>>of the danger.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of
>>>>>>>>>>>returning him to the White
>>>>>>>>>>>House"
>>>>>>>>>>><https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-trump-officials-
>>>are-
>>>>>amo
>>>>>>>>>>>ng -the-most-vocal-opponents-of-returning-him-to-the-white-house>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>This isn't lying media. These people said these things. Ironic
>>>>>>>>>>>that people who get close
>>>>>>>>>>>to Trump end up hating him even when they don't get thrown under
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>bus.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Even Mark Meadows turned on Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Full List of Former Donald Trump Officials Refusing to Endorse
>>>>>Him"
>>>>>>>>>>>"https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-former-donald-trump-
>>>officials-
>>>>>ref
>>>>>>>>>>>us ing-endorse-him-1882733"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Trump isn't a Republican, he's a RINO. He wears a Republican
>>>hat,
>>>>>>>>>>>but real Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>don't want anything to do with him unless they're afraid of him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"'Unprecedented' and 'stunning' number of Trump administration
>>>>>alums
>>>>>>>>>>>oppose his
>>>>>>>>>>>reelection"
>>>>>>>>>>>"https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/1
>>>2/
>>>>>tr
>>>>>>>>>>>um ps-critics-former-white-house/73145245007/"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You'd drop your support for him plenty quick if you ever had to
>>>>>work
>>>>>>>>>>>for him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump is surrounded by corruption.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then why elect him?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want to stick with corruption? Trump is exposing it and will
>>>>>>>> prosecute the guilty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guilty Roger Stone got a Trump pardon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guilty Paul Manafort got a Trump pardon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guilty Steve Bannon got a Trump pardon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guilty Joe Arapio got a Trump pardon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guilty Jan 6 rioters are promised a Trump pardon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prosecuting the guilty, you say?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were wrongfully prosecuted. Lawfare.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would Trump "wrongfully prosecute"
>>>>>his own appointees and supporters?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He didn't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Whose Justice Dept prosecuted
>>>Flynn and Stone and Bannon and Manafort?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The DOJ operate largely independently.
>
>But in Message-ID: <v6hr76$12c7g$1@dont-email.me>, you said, "Of course you
>don't know
>that the DOJ is corrupt and is influenced by the Dems."
>

Being operated and being influenced are two different things.

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"Delma T. Ivey" wrote in message news:O3gpO.189829$ySE.75566@fx11.iad...
>
>On 7/27/2024 5:00 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> news:u056ajpt7jhh03ihvmc3t20soc6lp08jln@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 09:19:08 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it wasn't for Trump you'd have still never heard of the deep state
>>>> which
>>>> is the true cancer that's been silently destroying democracy and lives
>>>> for
>>>> decades.
>>>
>>> The Deep State was the treatment for Trumpism. The ballot box is the
>>> cure.
>>>
>>> #nevertrump
>>>
>>
>> And what do you know about the deep state?
>
>I know that there isn't any such thing. It's just an imaginary bogeyman for
>you, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>

How do you know? Do you know everything?
You seem to suffer from Dunning-Kruger syndrome.

https://tinyurl.com/mtxszp5u

Based on the search results, systemic corruption is a widely recognized
concept in various contexts, including political science, philosophy, and
anti-corruption efforts.

Characteristics of Systemic Corruption

According to the search results, systemic corruption is characterized by:
Networks of corruption: Corruption perpetrated by interconnected networks of
individuals, often involving stable practices and norms (institutionalized).
Embedded in systems: Corruption that serves political or social functions,
emerging through design or dysfunction, and is deeply ingrained in the
fabric of representative democracies.
Pattern of behavior: Corruption that involves more than isolated cases, with
a repeated or habitual nature.
Affects or is embedded in a system: Corruption that permeates and distorts
the functioning of institutions, organizations, or societies.
Examples and Contexts

The search results highlight examples of systemic corruption in various
contexts:
Representative democracies: The book “Systemic Corruption: Constitutional
Ideas for an Anti-Oligarchic Republic” by Camila Vergara argues that modern
liberal democracies have become increasingly oligarchic, suffering from
structural political decay.
Health sector corruption: A study on entrenched corruption in the health
sector notes that corruption is often part of a system, involving networks
of employees and senior officials operating according to well-known
“corruption operating procedures” and guarded by political power.
Developing countries: The Harvard Law School publication “Taming Systemic
Corruption: The American Experience and its Implications for Contemporary
Debates” highlights the challenges of addressing systemic corruption in
developing countries.
Conclusion

In conclusion, based on the search results, systemic corruption is a real
and complex phenomenon, characterized by networks, embeddedness, patterns of
behavior, and distortion of institutional functioning. It can be found in
various contexts, including representative democracies and developing
countries. Addressing systemic corruption requires a nuanced understanding
of its causes and a comprehensive approach to reform, incorporating
institutional innovations and anti-oligarchic measures.

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"Governor Swill" wrote in message
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>
>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:08:28 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>Trump is surrounded by corruption. Governments and major organisations
>>were
>>taken over by the deep state/CIA decades ago.
>>You leftists don't understand what systemic corruption is and how it shuts
>>down and destroys anyone who opposes it.
>
>But you're going to vote for all that corruption anyway?
>

No, I'm not in America.

>
>"When their eloquence escapes you.
>"Their logic ties you up and rapes you,
>"All I have to say is ...
>
>"De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"
>
>#nevertrump

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"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
news:v878dq$bkno$1@dont-email.me:

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB1BD539B2ED94629555@185.151.15.190...
>>
>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>news:q4ubaj5bd9a3utio7opp3ugfp39c91d1sa@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>> <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>news:v841f7$3jn31$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and
>>>>>>>>> RINO prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs
>>>>>>>by the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism
>>>>>>>and tyranny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
>>>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
>>>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep
>>> state is.
>>
>>
>> And you cannot prove it exists either. Typical.
>>
>
> Your statement is silly and ignorant. How can a multi centuries old
> complex network of systemic corruption be 'proven' on usenet?

That is your problem.

> There is tons of evidence though.

Then post it.

On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:57:11 -0700, ugly black olympics 2024 <too-many-blacks@disney.com>
wrote:

>On 7/28/2024 7:14 PM, El Kabong wrote:
>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
<snip>
>>>> So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society that
>>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>>
>>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>>
>> Lok them up!
>> Lok them up!
>> Lol.
>>
>> Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>>
>> Go to <http://deepstate.org> What does it say? "The
>
>Are you Holman's retarded gay little brother?
>
>https://www.govexec.com/feature/gov-exec-deconstructing-deep-state/

"As the Trump era has unfolded, the term “deep state” has come to mean something sinister
to some on the far right. More than just signifying an impersonal, inept bureaucracy, it
conjures a secretive illuminati of bureaucrats determined to sabotage the Trump agenda."

<laughs and points>

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What a bunch of loons!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

#nevertrump
Q: What do you think is the best thing about being 104?
A: No peer pressure.

Heroyam slava!

Andrew W wrote:
> "El Kabong" wrote in message
> >Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >> >Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 01:37:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> >> >>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >> >>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >> >>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >> >>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and
> >> >>>>>>>> RINO
> >> >>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> And now, the facts:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs
> >> >>>>>>by
> >> >>>>>>the corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
> >> >>>>>>tyranny.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Those all happened under the Trump administration. Are you saying
> >> >>>>>Trump is corrupt? Or
> >> >>>>>just incompetent to appoint a government?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You cannot even prove this "deep state" exists.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <EYEROLL> Apparently, Hollowhead doesn't even know what the deep state
> >> >> is.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >So why don't you describe it for us? Or is it such a Secret Society
> >> >that
> >> >no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
> >>
> >> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
> >
> >Lok them up!
> >Lok them up!
> >Lol.
> >
> >Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
> >
> >Go to <http://deepstate.org> What does it say? "The
> >domain name deepstate.org is for sale!" $14,547, or make
> >an offer. Similar for deepstate.com and deepstate.net.
> >
> >In the 21st century, how can such a huge entity not have
> >a website?
> >
> >Welllll.... ?
> >
>
> You can't be that dumb. You must just be trying to be funny. Dan.com simply
> reserved the domain.
>
> Do you expect a network of corrupt administrators, corporations and elites
> to have a website and advertise?
> And no, they're not a single entity.

It's not that simple.

On 7/28/2024 11:09 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> "Delma T. Ivey"  wrote in message news:O3gpO.189829$ySE.75566@fx11.iad...
>>
>> On 7/27/2024 5:00 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>> news:u056ajpt7jhh03ihvmc3t20soc6lp08jln@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 09:19:08 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If it wasn't for Trump you'd have still never heard of the deep state which
>>>>> is the true cancer that's been silently destroying democracy and lives for
>>>>> decades.
>>>>
>>>> The Deep State was the treatment for Trumpism.  The ballot box is the cure.
>>>>
>>>> #nevertrump
>>>>
>>>
>>> And what do you know about the deep state?
>>
>> I know that there isn't any such thing. It's just an imaginary bogeyman for
>> you, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>>
>
> How do you know?

It's not important "how" I know. I just know.

> Do you know everything?

No, but I know there's no "deep state," and that fuckwits like you imagine there
is one because you have a built-in need to believe in sinister forces you can't see.

There is no "deep state." That's a figment of your diseased imagination that has
no critical thinking ability.

On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>>
>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by the
>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
>>>>
>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying Trump is
>>>> corrupt?  Or
>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>
>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's no
>> such thing.
>>
>
> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.

Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.

There is no "deep state"

Governor Swill wrote:
> your lazy attempts

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Delma T Ivey and a dozen other hyper-violent socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> There's no such thing.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Delma T Ivey and a dozen other hyper-violent socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.