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* Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?186282@ud0s4.net
+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?The Natural Philosopher
|+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?D
||+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Rich
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|||`* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?rbowman
||| `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?D
|||  +* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Rich
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|||  `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?rbowman
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|||     | `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Charlie Gibbs
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||| `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Rich
|||  `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?The Natural Philosopher
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|+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?186282@ud0s4.net
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|| ||  |  |+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?The Natural Philosopher
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|| ||  +- Joy of Hydrogen (Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?)Lars Poulsen
|| ||  `- Joy of Hydrogen (Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?)Lars Poulsen
|| |`* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?rbowman
|| `* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?186282@ud0s4.net
|+* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Carlos E.R.
|`* Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Carlos E.R.
`- Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?Robert Riches

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Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
From: The Natural Philosop
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
Organization: A little, after lunch
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:00 UTC
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
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On 18/12/2024 05:05, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> On 12/17/24 4:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:28:01 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Danes are Germans with a seasick accent.
>>> Did you know they are so socialist that every baby has a line tattooed
>>> on its head at birth "This way up"
>>
>> The Danes improved the British gene pool.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw
>>
>
>   Agreed there ... the old Brits were an ugly lot  :-)
>
>   Actually, hard to tell what a "Brit" actually IS.
>   It's one of those countries occupied/invaded by
>   SO many entities over the ages that nobody really
>   has a claim.
>
>   The first known human on the island - a cave fossil
>   named 'Cheddar Man' - turned out to be a 'black'
>   African who apparently sailed up the Spanish and
>   finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just
>   as the ice age was starting to thaw.
>
>   Oldest living lines ... probably somewhere in Wales.

I think the red woman is the oldest - pre ice age.

1." Dating to around 480,000 years ago during the Middle Pleistocene,
the Boxgrove fossils are the oldest human remains discovered in the UK
and were identified as most likely belonging to the ancient human
species Homo heidelbergensis."

But not homo sap.

2." Our own species is a relative newcomer to Britain. The earliest
direct evidence is a jaw fragment found in Kent's Cavern, Devon.
Scientific analysis estimated it to be at least 40,000 years old."

No mention of skin colours or ethnicity is made and none are available.
Fair skin and blue eyes are simply adaptation to low levels of sunlight.

For thousands of years the presence of modern humans in Britain remained
brief and sporadic. It has only been continuous since about 12,000 years
ago.
--
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
From: The Natural Philosop
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar
>> Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up
>> the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just as
>> the ice age was starting to thaw.
>
> Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland.

Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not
have been a useful route

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its shoes.

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>>> This is a very good point! I read today that a 21 day ban on smartphones in
>>>> UK schools resulted in better psychological health/well being, and better
>>>> sleep, and a 3% memory improvement.
>>>
>>> Today's kiddies are plagued by 'social' and political
>>> BS which constantly tries to twist their brains into
>>> knots. For SM it means PROFIT ... for political interests
>>> it's produced a gen of near-psychotics which can be
>>> twisted around the proverbial finger.
>>
>> This is the truth. I see it in the class room every single day. If the exam is
>> hard, they would never dream of working harder or study more. Instead they
>> complain to the school that the teacher is evil, and refuse to take the exam
>> until it is made easier.
>
> I wonder how some of these pansies would have responded to the digital
> logic design exams I had long ago in university. The prof. told
> everyone the rules up front: open book, open notes, and the kicker: an
> exam suitable for a 70min period, but we had 50min to take it.

Haha, they would have died. ;)

I vaguely remember my digital electronics exam. You had to design some
kind of memory I think, by hand, drawing all the gates and stuff. Good
times! The analog electronics exam though, was horrible! ;)

> After the first one, I worked out why the "70min in 50min time slot".
> The digital logic design problems that were suitable for a pencil and
> paper exam had a hard complexity knee at about the 4-5 bits point. 4-5
> bits or less and one could solve the Karnaugh maps on paper by hand.
> And even 5 bits was 'pushing it', paper complexity wise. Anything
> beyond was in the realm of "you now need a computer solver for this".
> So all the problems on the exams ended up being /easy enough/
> (relatively speaking) that 50min of problems in 50min of exam time
> meant that nearly the entire class would score 95+ (out of 100). So to
> separate out those who truly understood from those just getting by
> required "too many problems" to solve in time. The good students had
> no problem finishing a 70min exam in 50 minutes and scoring 95+ on them
> (myself and another classmate named Scott proved that fact). The "ok"
> students would get most of the exam done, and score in the 75-90 range.
> And the actual mediocre students would be the ones scoring the sub 75
> scores because they cracked open the book (and if you needed to crack
> open the book, it meant you were not going to score well on the exam,
> making the whole "open book, open note" rule moot).
>
> There was bitching and moaning on the part of the mediocre students
> after each exam, but nothing changed because of their bitching and
> moaning.

I do this in another course. 45 questions in 60 minutes. If you need to
google stuff, you won't have time to finish the exam.

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
From: D
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 17/12/2024 09:23, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 10:37:27 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahhh... the land of the free! We'll see if the long term plans work out.
>>>> If so, when I retire, I'm coming! Sadly a lot can happen between now and
>>>> then, but that's part of the charm.
>>>
>>> Choose carefully. Some parts of the land of the free aren't very free.
>>>
>>
>> Oh yes... I'm starting to realize. There's a prison called California, I
>> have heard very sinister things about it!
>>
>> No... rural, red and bible tumping generally seems to be the recipe when it
>> comes to finding the more free areas of the home of the brave and land of
>> the free.
>
> Yep. I am not religious, but I'd rather live in Utah or Montana that
> California, these days.

This is the truth! I have nothing against the mormons I meet. I think
perhaps they are more afraid to discuss philosophy with me, than I am of
them! ;)

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 17/12/2024 09:26, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:51:27 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Europe the EU is completely clueless and even the UK which had re
>>>> temerity to leave it is now being led back into it my a man who thinks
>>>> men can have a vagina.
>>>
>>> Scholz got his vote of no confidence. It will be interesting to see how
>>> that plays out. Apparently the CDU head isn't a EU fan.
>>>
>>
>> A colleague at one of my current consulting gigs was very happy to see the
>> coalition bust, and joined the green party the next day.
>>
> Yes. a staggering amount of people vote green despite the fact that they cant
> run a pissup at a brewery.

This is the truth! Fun fact, in sweden, the green party was briefly
infiltrated by an moslem extremist sect.

>> My prediction is a destruction of the socialists, enormous leaps forward
>> for the greens, the extreme left and right, and I suspect they will end up
>> with a christian democrat minority government.
>>
>
> There will always be a few Neonazis and communists (not much difference) and
> Green is the new communist anyway.
>
> The dividing line is actually between ideological politics and pragmatic
> politics.
>
> AS living standard fall people have less time for ideology and moral
> arguments: they want heating in their homes and food on the table.

Yes, this is the important truth that all mainstream politicians of today
have completely forgotten. The first mainstream politician to rediscover
this fact, will probably be a successful mainstream politician.

>> I doubt, but would be positively surprised, if they would end up with the
>> swedish model of a center government with support from the
>> nationalist/extreme right.
>>
> Not a bad mix IMHO

It works alright in sweden at the moment. Stricter immigration, the
start of a new nuclear project and slightly lower taxes. Otherwise,
nothing big has been done the past 2 years.

>> I think germany is still too scared of the right to do something like that,
>> although it was worked fairly ok in the swedish government constellation,
>> with a good "give and take" between the center and the nationalist right.
>
>

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 17/12/2024 09:49, D wrote:
>> Don't trust the danish! They are very tricky people. They invaded sweden
>> once, and we're constantly watching them, in case they will try it again!
>> As for the rest, they are good people, although the norwegian are the most
>> lazy people on the planet.
>
> Danes are Germans with a seasick accent.
> Did you know they are so socialist that every baby has a line tattooed on its
> head at birth
> "This way up" :-)

Haha, sounds just like the danish! ;) The best thing with the danish is
their humour (much more politically incorrect than swedish humour).

> Much prefer swedes

Same here!

Subject: Re: Newsreader mechanicals
From: D
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2024-12-17, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> How did you do the rb/D quoting? Do you have a script for that? It was
>> very beautiful.
>
> Hand editing in "vi" - my newsreader is "slrn".

Ahh... gods own editor! I understand.

> For a while I was using Thunderbird as my newsreader, but since I use a
> variety of computers, it was a nuisance that each device had its own
> "newsrc" file.
>
> With "slrn", I can "ssh" into one Fedora box, with minimal bandwidth
> consumption and delay. TigerVNC is not so friendly for that.

This is the truth. You are a wise man!

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2024-12-17, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> D> If you're content to wait until you are at least 55 to withdraw money, you
> D> can start a retirement foundation. The gross assets are taxed with a flat
> D> tax of 0.3% or so every year, regardless of if the assets shrink or grow.
> D> And in return you can withdraw your retirement savings for free. This is
> D> not very well known, and I have never heard of a company that offers this.
>
> LP> So an after-tax savings account. How is this different from an ordinary
> LP> savings account ... I guess the difference is that the interest is
> LP> tax-free? Sweden special!
>
>> The difference is that in an ordinary savings account, you put in taxed
>> money. In this type of account, your company can put in gross earnings,
>> have the capital gains being taxed at only 0.3% (ish) flat fee per year,
>> and then when you, the employee, withdraw it, it's taxed as retirement
>> income.
>>
>> If you put in your taxed savings into a "kapitalförsäkring" you can
>> withdraw the money tax free, but the flat tax is higher, it's currently
>> 0,888% for 2025.
>
> What is taxed a 0.3%/year: The capital GAIN (interest) for the year, or
> the accumulated capital value?

Sorry for being unclear. The accumulated capital value is taxed at a flat
rate per year.

> And does "retirement income" have a lower tax rate than "long term
> capital gains"?

No. Retirement income is taxed as salary. Long term capital gains are
taxed at either 30% (gains after sale, old system) or around 0.3%
(foundation) or 0.8% insurance. Insurance you can take out the money
without tax, and I think when you withdraw from a foundation, it is taxed
as income.

If you move abroad, you can get a flat 25% retirement income tax. There
are also I think double taxation agreements that can be used to lower the
tax on retirement income as well but I do not have details here.

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
From: D
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Andy Burns wrote:

> D wrote:
>
>> How did you do the rb/D quoting?
>
> Its often a sign of messages that have been gatewayed via FidoNet
>

Hmm, does Fidonet have a different built in quoting system?

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:55:30 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Hahaha... 100% true! I remember several years ago, it was found out that
>> danish politicians actually paid for train tickets for arabians and sent
>> them along to sweden. Absolutely hilarious! I'm telling you, never trust
>> the danish!
>
> You've got to get your kicks in when you can. Denmark has a way of losing
> territory when it goes to war so subtlety is required.

True! ;)

> I didn't realize there is a 4th season on Netflix but I enjoyed 'Borgen'.
> Sausage making is so much more fun when you have 9 or 10 parties.

Hmm, never seen. Maybe I should have a look?

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:36:04 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Yes, I would imagine they have their own. I like the idea of still
>> having activities for only men and women. I think those types of spaces
>> are severely lacking in todays society, and i think they are extremely
>> beneficial for the development of young men and women.
>
> Consider some of the stunts we pulled off as Boy Scouts I shudder to think
> of adding girls to the mix. It might improve those winter camping trips
> though.
>

True. The only way to survive cold, arctic nights without any fire or
heating, is passionate, loving sex. When practicing that, the argument is
strong for mixed scout troops!

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:30:39 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Really?! Why was that? Did they have too thick skulls?
>
> They may have had some really good drugs.
>
> https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-45-acp-history-performance/
>
> There is a theory that the Norse berserkers where getting into the
> psychedelics too. A little warrior enhancement is ever popular.
>
> https://theconversation.com/what-is-the-drug-captagon-and-how-is-it-
> linked-to-syrias-fallen-assad-regime-245935

Interesting! I thought the secret behind the norse berserkers, were their
militantly feminist wives. Once they managed to go on a roadtrip (or boat
trip) they could finally release all their bottled up anger! ;)

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:01:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>
>>> The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar
>>> Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up
>>> the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just
>>> as the ice age was starting to thaw.
>>
>> Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland.
>
> Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not
> have been a useful route

Exactly why do you think he sailed from Africa? The DNA matches the
western European hunter gatherers who had be in Europe as long ago as
17,000 years BP.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton-
cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/

The rest of the article is pay walled but if you read other sources there
is waffling on the skin color although 'black' generates better headlines.
Even Wikipedia is more balanced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_hunter-gatherer#Physical_appearance

When you're looking for specific alleles of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 in ancient
DNA there is room for interpretation.

https://phys.org/news/2023-08-ancient-ape-trkiye-story-human.html

Chris Stringer's Just So stories may become yesterday's news. Wolpoff and
Caspari challenged that theory about 30 years ago, partially because
Stringer's time line wasn't realistic.

Perhaps they will revisit the M haplogroup which has long been an anomaly.
The Just So story says L3 left Africa and mutated to M subclades of which
are common in Asia, including the Indian subcontinent. Except M1, which
is found in North Africa. Did some M people on their way to Japan get
homesick and go back to Africa?

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On 18/12/2024 19:09, D wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:30:39 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Really?! Why was that? Did they have too thick skulls?
>>
>> They may have had some really good drugs.
>>
>> https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-45-acp-history-performance/
>>
>> There is a theory that the Norse berserkers where getting into the
>> psychedelics too. A little warrior enhancement is ever popular.
>>
>> https://theconversation.com/what-is-the-drug-captagon-and-how-is-it-
>> linked-to-syrias-fallen-assad-regime-245935
>
> Interesting! I thought the secret behind the norse berserkers, were
> their militantly feminist wives. Once they managed to go on a roadtrip
> (or boat trip) they could finally release all their bottled up anger! ;)

It was supposed to be amanita muscaria intoxication.
Except that doesn't make people violent

Relief from nagging Nordic nannies sounds about right tho.

--
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:42:43 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Yep... economy is fine. No need for private jets and business class.
>
> But business class is so nice! Some of the 747s had the upper deck
> outfitted as a lounge.
>
> https://www.executivetraveller.com/boeing-747-bars-lounges
>
> The last time I flew on company business I was in the last row on a flying
> cattle car. The cramped seating was bad enough but when we hit a little
> turbulence the passenger next to me stopped playing with his tablet and
> starting searching for a barf bag. Good times!

My father worked all his life in the airline business, so from time to
time I've travelled on the upper deck, and for some reason, don't ask me
why, I've been upgraded randomly as well. Last time I travelled business
was to japan, but I paid for it myself, since I refuse to fly longer than
6-8 hours unless I can lie down and sleep. My wife forced me to go to
japan, so I forced us to travel business. Yes, I basically punished
myself, since I had to pay for her in the end. ;)

What is fun being an IT guy, is that apparently I do not look like I
belong in business class. So on that tedious flight to japan, I had to go
on a walk to stretch my legs. So 2-3 times I walk the length of the plane.
I went to the back, then went to the front, and the flight attendant
stopped me, and said I had to go back to economy class and that this was
for business only.

I proved to her that I belonged, and this wonderful japanese little flight
attendant basically melted through the floor in shame. Then I didn't see
he for the rest of the flight. =D

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:13:37 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 16/12/2024 20:28, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 11:56:59 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> What else could they do? Kill 30% of the nation for having cheered
>>>> Hitler on? For believing in German racial supremacy and the subhuman
>>>> nature of Romanians Jews Poles and other Bolsheviks?
>>>
>>> Considering Brits have their own opinions on subhumans
>>
>> We dont have subhumans
>
> Only pakis, wogs, and other endearing terms.
>

Enjoy this classic from the office!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlQM4U3qUDI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8LjOJZGiW8 .

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:23:54 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> No... rural, red and bible tumping generally seems to be the recipe when
>> it comes to finding the more free areas of the home of the brave and
>> land of the free.
>
> I'm live and let live but the bible-thumping in some areas can get
> intense. I had a contract in Indiana. Many of the businesses proudly
> announced they were good Christian businesses - as they tried to screw
> you.

Brings back good memories of debating abortion with good, honest, god
fearing republicans when I was studying one year in Chicago.

> It's an odd state. The KKK is usually associated with the deep south but
> in the '20s the Klan ran the state.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Klan
>
> It was toned down when I was there in the '80s but you didn't have to look
> too hard to find remnants.

Again, comp.os.linux.misc is the best place to learn history! =)

> There are a lot of churches in Montana and several of my friends are
> active but you don't get the same feeling. Roman Catholics are the largest
> denomination but that's a little misleading as there are about 10,000
> protestant denominations that aren't lumped together.

Divide and conquer! Do you not fear the the protestants will unite?

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:22:36 +0100, D wrote:
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>> Ahh.. ok, now I know. "Her books and characters serve as the basis for
>> the internationally successful TV series Rebecka Martinsson." I've seen
>> an episode or two when visiting Stockholm, since my father really enjoys
>> criminal shows.
>
> I didn't know it had become a TV series. Amazon has it for $18 for the
> first year. I'll have to try it when I finish the 'Leverage' series.
>
> 'Leverage' is sort of apropos. It's a team of grifters and thieves that
> take down people like corrupt insurance CEOs. They don't shoot them but
> expose them and clean out their accounts to reimburse those that they
> screwed.

I'm currently watching Pantheon. It is animated, but I find it quite well
researched when it comes to the transhumanist theme of mind uploading. I
suspect the second season will not be as good as the first, and towards
the end the quality dropped. But it has a good start!

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:53:31 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> If you ever go to Stockholm, stay within the city center, and only walk
>> on the well lit mainstreets at night.
>>
>> I've have several friends who got mugged or assaulted at night in the
>> city center by the arabian gangs.
>
> That applies to many large US cities but so far Arabs aren't the real
> problem. Even high profile events like the Boston Marathon bombing, while
> Islamist, was carried out by Chechens.
>

Interesting! Very few chechens in sweden. I wonder how on earth sweden
managed to avoid those? I saw in the news the other day that a mosque in
Gothenburg hand't out scarfs to arabian children with terrorist propaganda
against israel.

When confronted by the media, they explained that the guy who did that
just visited, and no one knew him and he was not a member. Yeah right....!

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:49:05 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> Don't trust the danish! They are very tricky people. They invaded sweden
>> once, and we're constantly watching them, in case they will try it
>> again! As for the rest, they are good people, although the norwegian are
>> the most lazy people on the planet.
>
> I read an article a while back that many young Swedes went to Norway when
> they couldn't find work at home. They found employment peeling bananas.
>
> https://www.ateriet.com/banos-spreadable-banana-taste-test/

This is the truth! Well, I don't know about the banana business, but many
low paying service jobs in norway, that the norwegians don't want to do
are filled with swedish youth, who in comparison, are seen as diligent and
hart working!

Also swedish nurses double their salaries when moving to norway, and
sweden backfills with arabians who hardly speak the language. There have
been many examples of old people not understanding what their arabian
doctor or nurse are saying.

The good thing is that the current center/nationalist government I think
made it possible for old people to demand to have a doctor they can
understand. Under the previous socialist government, this was seen as
racist and possibly punished.

> I've been known to mash a banana on bread but this seems a bit extreme.
>
> I wonder what Norway will do when the North Sea oil fields dry up?

The country will collapse back into a being a small fishing village. ;)
Once norway proposed to trade part of its oil fields for shares in Volvo.
Sweden, at the height of its modern power, laughed and refused. It makes
me very sad. =(

> I did find it amusing that Norway housed some of its immigrants in an off
> season resort -- somewhere north of the Arctic Circle. Welcome to sunny
> Norway!

Sounds just like norway! Another norwegian classic... in order to fight
congestion, you can only drive in the fast lane if you're 2 people or more
during rush hour. The crafty norwegians love their au paires, and took
them with them to work, so they can save time, and then sent them home
with the car, and again to pick them up at work, so they can drive two in
the car in the fast lane!

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:47:01 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> There are two neobanks, Avanza and Nordnet who are just about to take
>> their first stumbling steps outside of the swedish market. They are
>> quite alright as well.
>
> Probably the best known sort-of Swedish companies in the US are IKEA and
> Volvo. I guess IKEA moved to the Netherlands. I'm not sure about Volvo

No, no, no... way too simple! Some parts of ikea are owned by a dutch
foundation, that foundation, somehow is controlled by a foundation in
Liechtenstein. Could be that there's a branch of it in switzerland. One of
those foundations owns the Ikea brand, and they charge the local companies
that run the stores massive amounts for the right to use their own brand,
and thereby collect profits in holland and liechtenstein where they are no
taxed. Kamprad was a brilliant man! Sadly I do not have the billions
required for such a solution to work.

But...

The Wallenberg family, one of the richest families in the world, also make
heavy use of a family foundation to reduce taxes. This is an inheritance
from when sweden was super socialist, so the only way they could protect
the family fortune, and avoid splitting it up due to inheritance laws, was
to make a non-profit foundation, and make sure it is staffed by family
members. They've been at it for 6 generations now.

> these days. Then there was Saab... I had a girlfriend who drove a 96, one
> of the early ones that left a cloud behind it like a chainsaw.
>
> Then there were the art house movies like 'I Am Curious Yellow' and
> Bergman's stuff. When she was 12 my wife's parents took her to see 'The
> Virgin Spring' under the misconception that it was some sort of Disney
> nature film. I do like that one the best. So much for turn the other
> cheek.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJ58Q5fx_4

My favourite Bergman is Fanny och Alexander. Det sjunde inseglet is quite
alright as well.

The danish has Lars von Trier, the ultra-troll och ultra-troll! I love his
humor and mastery of trolling at a global level! Amazing!

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> take many forms.
>
> And Novo Nordisk is like 60% of the economy ... one
> little glitch there and .......
>

This is the truth! Novo nordisk, maers and tuborg/carlsberg. Remove those, and
you have removed all of denmarks economy.

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 12/17/24 4:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:28:01 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Danes are Germans with a seasick accent.
>>> Did you know they are so socialist that every baby has a line tattooed
>>> on its head at birth "This way up"
>>
>> The Danes improved the British gene pool.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw
>>
>
> Agreed there ... the old Brits were an ugly lot :-)
>
> Actually, hard to tell what a "Brit" actually IS.
> It's one of those countries occupied/invaded by
> SO many entities over the ages that nobody really
> has a claim.
>
> The first known human on the island - a cave fossil
> named 'Cheddar Man' - turned out to be a 'black'
> African who apparently sailed up the Spanish and
> finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just
> as the ice age was starting to thaw.
>
> Oldest living lines ... probably somewhere in Wales.
>

It is very fascinating. I have had a lot of colleagues from the UK over
the years, and it is a diverse collection. Once I had a colleague from
northern scotland, and over a bad IP-phone line it was impossible to
understand him. He has something in his mouth I suspect.

Then I had a colleague who was ginger, and it was acceptable and expected
to make fun of him. Of course I heartily joined!

When asked about beautiful women in the UK the ginger man said they are
horrible, drink too much beer, get drunk and then fight each other.

Is this true?

Subject: Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 12/14/24 5:07 PM, D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 12:20:58 +0100, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a good man! You should keep him!
>>>
>>> I don't think it was 'What Color is your Parachute' but there was a book
>>> from the '70s that had a punchline like 'How to hire an employer.' It's a
>>> worthwhile way to think. They're not hiring you, you're finding
>>> corporation that will provide a sales force, accountants, and all that
>>> business cruft while you happily write code.
>>>
>>> Many people dream of having their own business. Been there, done that, and
>>> found the business part very tedious.
>>>
>>
>> This is a very powerful mindset I've had my entire working life. I think
>> more people who are employed, should think of themselves as one man
>> entrepreurs, as you say, you are the one with value, and shop around as you
>> would if you ran your own business.
>>
>> As for having my own business, yes, the accounting is tedious, but I pay
>> about 400 EUR per month to get that done for me.
>>
>> This is also something I tell everyone who wants to start their own
>> business. For the love of god, outsource all accounting as quickly as
>> possible.
>
> This is a productive philosophy - assuming you have
> the Right People. (Almost) independent agents can be
> highly productive and inventive. It takes only a light
> hand to kinda infuse them with 'the mission'.
>
> Alas most managers, knowing they're crap, go for the
> heavy dictatorial hand as psychological compensation ...

My company is very decentralized and relies a lot of distributed decision
making. I only have sub-contractors, so they all have their own customers,
and are therefore entrepreneurs. This offloads me, and makes the entire
operation very efficient!

We do make it a point to meet physically 2 times per year. The rest of the
time, we're 100% virtual and mostly email driven with occasional video
calls and chats (quite rarely unless we come together several of us on the
same project which happens a couple of times per year).

Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business
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On 18/12/2024 19:11, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:01:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar
>>>> Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up
>>>> the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just
>>>> as the ice age was starting to thaw.
>>>
>>> Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland.
>>
>> Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not
>> have been a useful route
>
> Exactly why do you think he sailed from Africa? The DNA matches the
> western European hunter gatherers who had be in Europe as long ago as
> 17,000 years BP.
>

Then why call him a black African...

> https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton-
> cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/
>
New scientist is a political magazine. It has no real scientific
content. Its har left antd this is probably part of some 'critical race
theory' bullshit

> The rest of the article is pay walled but if you read other sources there
> is waffling on the skin color although 'black' generates better headlines.
> Even Wikipedia is more balanced.
>
Exactly

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_hunter-gatherer#Physical_appearance
>
> When you're looking for specific alleles of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 in ancient
> DNA there is room for interpretation.
>
> https://phys.org/news/2023-08-ancient-ape-trkiye-story-human.html
>
> Chris Stringer's Just So stories may become yesterday's news. Wolpoff and
> Caspari challenged that theory about 30 years ago, partially because
> Stringer's time line wasn't realistic.
>
> Perhaps they will revisit the M haplogroup which has long been an anomaly.
> The Just So story says L3 left Africa and mutated to M subclades of which
> are common in Asia, including the Indian subcontinent. Except M1, which
> is found in North Africa. Did some M people on their way to Japan get
> homesick and go back to Africa?
>
Every body wandered around and banged anything that moved.

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