Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:33:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Put 2 computers on eBay: one with Linux and one with Windows (price the
>> Windows system to account for the license).
>
>Full retail or OEM Dimdows licence? I don’t think you’re allowed to resell
>the latter.

Theoretically, it would require setting it up to have the out-of-box
experience that an OEM making generic PCs would enable in the install,
but you could just give them the media package and have it boot to a
plain desktop, M$ isn't going to sue you over it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:22:32 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Looking at the history of Haiti, it’s quite clear that when they
>> declared independence (and freed themselves from slavery) in the 1790s,
>> the good ole US-of-A was not mightily pleased to see a bunch of uppity
>> black folk practically on their doorstep, who might give their own
>> slaves ideas about wanting their own freedom.
>
> You are avoiding the point. They freed themselves from slavery and built a
> black paradise second only to Wakanda. In Stan Lee's world of comic books.
>
> Having freed themselves from privileged white supremacists, what's the
> problem? Why is it suck a festering sore that even the DR doesn't want
> Haitians?

I would invite Lawrence to move to the Haiti "paradise," if I was that
cruel. It's a pure shithole.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:58 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> DFS wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "his" day. Never ever call me a "they", bozo, or I'll ...
>>
>> Looks like they is mad. :-D
>>
>>> <snip>
>
> Apart from the cultural war I hate that use of 'they'. You're reading
> along and until you get the context you're not sure if the author is
> talking about multiple characters, a single character with multiple
> personality disorder, or a single character of indeterminate sex.

It disgusts me as well. Especially when everyone knows that so-and-so is a
man or a woman. Even on IMDB they no longer say a brother is a brother or a
sister is a sister, they say "brother or sister." It's pure bullshit.
Every damned time they screw around with the language, it gets less precise.
And there's no excuse for the English language to not be precise.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-05 6:43 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 07:22:32 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the history of Haiti, it’s quite clear that when they
>>> declared independence (and freed themselves from slavery) in the 1790s,
>>> the good ole US-of-A was not mightily pleased to see a bunch of uppity
>>> black folk practically on their doorstep, who might give their own
>>> slaves ideas about wanting their own freedom.
>>
>> You are avoiding the point. They freed themselves from slavery and built a
>> black paradise second only to Wakanda. In Stan Lee's world of comic books.
>>
>> Having freed themselves from privileged white supremacists, what's the
>> problem? Why is it suck a festering sore that even the DR doesn't want
>> Haitians?
>
> I would invite Lawrence to move to the Haiti "paradise," if I was that
> cruel. It's a pure shithole.

The problem with Haiti and its revolution is that the niggers there
forgot that the country had been built by Whites. Other than possibly
being labourmen, the Haitians themselves played no part in turning that
large piece of land into what it had become. Once they killed the Whites
in mass, they immediately demonstrated their complete lack of intellect
by letting the country fall into chaos. Despite what happened, Whites
took pity on the monsters and returned repeatedly to restore order and
prosperity to the country. Every time they would leave, the savagery
would return.

The point is that there is no point in helping Haiti because as long as
there are Haitians in it, there is no way to save it.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:05:58 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> DFS wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "his" day. Never ever call me a "they", bozo, or I'll ...
>>
>> Looks like they is mad. :-D
>>
>>> <snip>
>
> Apart from the cultural war I hate that use of 'they'. You're reading
> along and until you get the context you're not sure if the author is
> talking about multiple characters, a single character with multiple
> personality disorder, or a single character of indeterminate sex.

Yes, being punctilious about language can be very frustrating, unless maybe
you're Stephen Pinker.

--
It seemed the world was divided into good and bad people. The good ones slept
better... while the bad ones seemed to enjoy the waking hours much more.
-- Woody Allen, "Side Effects"

On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 10:46:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Every damned time they screw around with the language, it gets less
> precise.
> And there's no excuse for the English language to not be precise.

English is anything but precise which is a problem for all languages.
Magritte's 'The Treachery of Images' (this is not a pipe) illustrates the
problem.

On 10/4/2024 5:02 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 30-09-2024, Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> a écrit :
>> In reply to "Lester Thorpe" who wrote the following:

>> I'm just wanting to understand the purpose of Cooledit and what would
>> be the selling point of it for someone to choose it over something
>> else.
>
> You would have to ask to someone who use it. He's promoting it because
> nobody knows about it and because it looks old

'old and/or unknown' are his main criteria for application software.

Can you imagine the oddball computing thoughts and paranoia required to
get through Feeb's day?

Of course he's a huge liar that makes one absurd claim after another.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 10:46:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> Every damned time they screw around with the language, it gets less
>> precise.
>> And there's no excuse for the English language to not be precise.
>
> English is anything but precise which is a problem for all languages.
> Magritte's 'The Treachery of Images' (this is not a pipe) illustrates the
> problem.

English has never been all that precise. It adopts loan words from all sorts of
languages, and slang eventually becomes incorporated into the Oxford English
DIctionary.

--
They're only trying to make me LOOK paranoid!

On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 17:30:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> English has never been all that precise. It adopts loan words from all
> sorts of languages, and slang eventually becomes incorporated into the
> Oxford English DIctionary.

I feel sorry for anyone doing ESL. If the homonyms don't get you the flaky
spelling will. Then there is the spoken word. I don't know what sort of
brain spasm it was but this afternoon I was contemplating when I say
'interest' it may have two or three syllables depending on the phase of
the moon or something. I'm also sort of a switch hitter with 'route'. And
so forth and so on.

Then there are the British TV shows where I have to switch on the
subtitles.

On 10/4/2024 3:11 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:33:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Put 2 computers on eBay: one with Linux and one with Windows (price the
>> Windows system to account for the license).
>
> Full retail or OEM Dimdows licence?

Either.

> I don’t think you’re allowed to resell the latter.

You are. But OEM is supposedly tied to the motherboard.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:39:57 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 10/4/2024 3:11 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:33:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Put 2 computers on eBay: one with Linux and one with Windows (price
>>> the Windows system to account for the license).
>>
>> Full retail or OEM Dimdows licence?
>
> Either.

The prices for the two are very different.

>> I don’t think you’re allowed to resell the latter.
>
> You are. But OEM is supposedly tied to the motherboard.

“Supposedly” ... Aren’t you supposed to make sure, to avoid charges of
criminal (i.e. for money) copyright infringment?

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 09:06:43 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Just for downloading full or partial websites alone there are no less
> than 15 Windows apps. Fifteen.

None of which actually work.

On 4 Oct 2024 20:44:32 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Shelby took what he learned from the Europeans, improved on it, and
> kicked European ass.

If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em, eh?

> That pattern is rather typical.

Who else in the USA even thought of doing it?

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:39:57 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 10/4/2024 3:11 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:33:58 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put 2 computers on eBay: one with Linux and one with Windows (price
>>>> the Windows system to account for the license).
>>>
>>> Full retail or OEM Dimdows licence?
>>
>> Either.
>
> The prices for the two are very different.
>
>>> I don’t think you’re allowed to resell the latter.
>>
>> You are. But OEM is supposedly tied to the motherboard.
>
> “Supposedly” ... Aren’t you supposed to make sure, to avoid charges of
> criminal (i.e. for money) copyright infringment?

As I recall, recently, Win 11 Pro was something like $120, while the
mini PC with Win 11 Pro pre-installed was about $160.

--
The New Testament offers the basis for modern computer coding theory,
in the form of an affirmation of the binary number system.
But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, nay:
for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
-- Matthew 5:37

On 10/11/2024 7:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 09:06:43 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Just for downloading full or partial websites alone there are no less
>> than 15 Windows apps. Fifteen.
>
> None of which actually work.

Which didn't work for you?

On 10/12/2024 7:36 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 10/11/2024 7:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 09:06:43 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Just for downloading full or partial websites alone there are no less
>>> than 15 Windows apps.  Fifteen.
>>
>> None of which actually work.
>
>
> Which didn't work for you?

crickets

On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:36:38 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 10/11/2024 7:23 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 09:06:43 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Just for downloading full or partial websites alone there are no less
>>> than 15 Windows apps. Fifteen.
>>
>> None of which actually work.
>
> Which didn't work for you?

You were the one claiming they could do the job. But you’ve never actually
tried them, have you?

On 4 Oct 2024 20:58:30 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Apart from the cultural war I hate that use of 'they'. You're reading
> along ...

“You’re” ... “you are” ... is that talking about multiple characters or a
single character?

On 6 Oct 2024 02:00:50 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Then there are the British TV shows where I have to switch on the
> subtitles.

Back in the 1980s, I first discovered what Geordies sounded like in “Auf
Wiedersehen, Pet”.

The first episode was the hardest. After that, I could actually understand
Jimmy Nail ...

On 04 Oct 2024 20:02:59 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 30-09-2024, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> a écrit :
>
>> Can’t speak for vim (Which vim? There are so many of them),
>
> You repeat the same stupidity again and again. It doesn't make it right.

vi, vim, neovim, gvim, vile, which is the one that tries to use Lua as its
extension language ...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 6 Oct 2024 02:00:50 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Then there are the British TV shows where I have to switch on the
>> subtitles.
>
> Back in the 1980s, I first discovered what Geordies sounded like in “Auf
> Wiedersehen, Pet”.
>
> The first episode was the hardest. After that, I could actually understand
> Jimmy Nail ...

Here's Ray Hudson going full Geordie after getting trolled by his
co-commentator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ju-uMBxhE (43 seconds)

--
I'll be Grateful when they're Dead.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:34:14 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 6 Oct 2024 02:00:50 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Then there are the British TV shows where I have to switch on the
>> subtitles.
>
> Back in the 1980s, I first discovered what Geordies sounded like in “Auf
> Wiedersehen, Pet”.
>
> The first episode was the hardest. After that, I could actually
> understand Jimmy Nail ...

Try something like Ken Loach's 'The Navigators'. He takes great pride in
getting the regional accents correct so most of it is Yorkies speaking
whatever the hell they speak.

Surprisingly I don't have a problem with Australian shows like 'Mystery
Road' and its spinoffs. One exception was a character who I thought was
called 'Molly' but it turned out to be 'Marley' with the 'r' being pretty
much swallowed.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:31:04 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Here's Ray Hudson going full Geordie after getting trolled by his
> co-commentator:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ju-uMBxhE (43 seconds)

After watching 'Sexy Beast' I was happily surprised to find Ray Winstone
actually speaks English in other films. About all I understood in that one
was Kingsley saying 'fuck'.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:33:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2024 20:58:30 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Apart from the cultural war I hate that use of 'they'. You're reading
>> along ...
>
> “You’re” ... “you are” ... is that talking about multiple characters or
> a single character?

Singular. The plural would be 'youse'.

On 15 Oct 2024 19:43:59 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:33:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On 4 Oct 2024 20:58:30 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> Apart from the cultural war I hate that use of 'they'. You're reading
>>> along ...
>>
>> “You’re” ... “you are” ... is that talking about multiple characters or
>> a single character?
>
> Singular.

Then why “are” and not “is”?