On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:06:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 04/01/2025 00:43, D wrote:
>> Negro has also become a symbol word.
>
> You have to be really uneducated and thick not to know it simply means
> 'black'.

The best PC invention is latinx. It sounds like something you take when
you haven't shit in three days. I don't even think the latinx people care
for it. Indian is touchy too. Some are into 'Native American', some
aren't.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:49:55 +0100, D wrote:

> I think there's a sabb with an even wider one, but cannot find it. I saw
> it in a garage many decades ago.

Oh, the 900. I've seen a few of those. Saabs always were a minority brand
in the US. I liked the old ones, but there were some really strange beasts
like the Sonnet II. I don't know why there was a Volvo on every block
while Saabs were driven by middle-aged lesbians.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:47:27 +0100, D wrote:

> I am surprised that eco-fascists are not protesting against the big IT
> corporations. But most likely that would not result in higher taxes and
> more power to socialist politicians, so that is probably why they are
> ignored.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_green_environmentalism

They love their technology. They want their iPhones, VR goggles, AI
friends, EVs and so forth to be powered by some unspecified miracle,

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:33:42 +0100, D wrote:

> Hallucinations will probably have to be "fixed" by either hiring
> africans to double check answers, sorry "fact check", and then store
> those so that similar queries are redirected to those canned answers.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/journal-editors-resign-to-protest-
ai-use-high-fees-and-more/

"In-house production has been reduced or outsourced, and in 2023 Elsevier
began using AI during production without informing the board, resulting in
many style and formatting errors, as well as reversing versions of papers
that had already been accepted and formatted by the editors. “This was
highly embarrassing for the journal and resolution took six months and was
achieved only through the persistent efforts of the editors," the editors
wrote. "AI processing continues to be used and regularly reformats
submitted manuscripts to change meaning and formatting and require
extensive author and editor oversight during proof stage.”

"There is certainly cause for concern when it comes to using AI in the
pursuit of science. For instance, earlier this year, we witnessed the
viral sensation of several egregiously bad AI-generated figures published
in a peer-reviewed article in Frontiers, a reputable scientific journal.
Scientists on social media expressed equal parts shock and ridicule at the
images, one of which featured a rat with grotesquely large and bizarre
genitals. The paper has since been retracted, but the incident reinforces
a growing concern that AI will make published scientific research less
trustworthy, even as it increases productivity."

Somehow a rat with big balls really upset them.

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:13:08 +0100, D wrote:

> Somehow I think they lost control over the movement. It is fun to see
> the wringing of hands of a lot of communists and socialists from the 60s
> who were "all in" russia, and to see them explain what's happening there
> now.

It's not as entertaining as the whiplash suffered by the CPUSA members in
the '30s and '40s when they got the latest memo from Moscow.

On 1/4/25 1:16 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:06:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 04/01/2025 00:43, D wrote:
>>> Negro has also become a symbol word.
>>
>> You have to be really uneducated and thick not to know it simply means
>> 'black'.
>
> The best PC invention is latinx. It sounds like something you take when
> you haven't shit in three days. I don't even think the latinx people care
> for it. Indian is touchy too. Some are into 'Native American', some
> aren't.

I use "AmerIndian".

Likely NOT much actual "Indian" in AmerIndians ...
but maybe SOME. Not like JUST northern Siberians
and Sammi ever crossed over to the American
continents, whomever found/heard might of as well.
A fair span of 'easy' transit time.

Oh, there are NO "Native Americans" ... just
"first ones here".

On 2025-01-04, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2025-01-03 18:11, chrisv wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -highhorse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Its a tool like anything else, so use the right tool for the job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Advocates in COLA have historically fight against the wisdom of
>>>>> understanding that everything has its own strengths & weaknesses,
>>>>> swimming against uses where other solutions are better.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, -highhorse is lying. He's a trolling asshole who gets-off
>>>> on attacking decent, reasonable people. His solutions are better, by
>>>> gum, and he'll ridicule anyone who thinks otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> According to the -highhorse troll, "Linux is what sloppy cheapskates
>>>> who cut corners prefer to use, rather than a quality product."
>>>
>>> (snipped, unread)
>>
>> Let me guess: Quotes from cola advocates proving that, yes, they do
>> consider value when making a choice! How terrible!
>>
>> That must mean that they would rather use Windows or Mac! Not.
>>
>> -highhorse doesn't understand the importance of software freedom, so
>> he takes it out on his moral and intellectual superiors. He thinks
>> it's about being a "cheapskate" or a "freeloader". -highhorse claims
>> that "the open source nature of Linux tends to attractthe type of
>> persona who somehow believes that all avenues are one-way streets set
>> up to benefit him (and only him) as the true & deserving holy center
>> of the universe."
>>
>> -highhorse is a stupid person and an asshole.
>
> The thing about Linux is that it is indeed for the freeloader... but
> it's also for the academic, the gamer, the student, the poor family that
> can barely afford to eat and the average user who is content to buy
> quality software but also enjoys using the free stuff. I would wager
> that open-source enthusiasts actually pay more for software than Windows
> or Mac users do, but that they do it by donating to it.

Many Windows users openly brag about pirating their software. And Microsoft
basically gives away their office suite and OS to keep you in their
ecosystem. I don't think I've bought a used computer in 15 years that didn't
already have a Windows license built in — and they work all the way up to
Windows 11. (And still, I don't use the crap.)

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-04, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

> Most ALL code of any size and scope can be "improved".
> If not 'security' then streamlining. And yes, some of
> the basic algos go all the way back to young Bill Gates.
> They used to have contests - who could do what in the
> least number of bytes/cycles. Bill often won.

The tricks he used would get people fired now.

> (and then the blood-signed contract ... :-)

I remember shooting someone out of the saddle when
she claimed that Lord Bill was a programming genius.
He was no such thing - but he was a _marketing_ genius.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

On 2025-01-04, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 04/01/2025 00:43, D wrote:
>
>> Negro has also become a symbol word.
>
> You have to be really uneducated and thick not to know it simply means
> 'black'.

s/black/Black/

The same thing happened here in Canada when the word "indigenous" was
introduced. About two weeks later it became mandatory to capitalize it.

The hypocritical thing about capitalizing "Black" is that hardly anyone
capitalizes "White". This is itself a form of racial discrimination.
In the name of equality, the only way you can capitalize anything is
to establish a rule that all racial designators shall be capitalized.
A touchstone in these cases is to see what people do with "Brown".

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

On 1/4/25 1:08 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:43:35 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> As a counter to that, I've started to drop a few "negros" in
>> conversations here and there out in town, and I also started to wear my
>> MAGA hat on the streets of Stockholm.
>
> When I was growing up niggers preferred to be called Negroes. It's hard to
> keep track. Of course when I was growing up we also had polocks, wops,
> kikes, and and other designations. My mother was politically correct
> before her time and would accuse my father of sounding like Hitler.
>
> The punchline is she thought any male Negro over the age of five was going
> to rape her. My father had no problems with niggers. They were just people
> until proven differently. I learned about hypocrisy and pretty words
> early.
>
> I don't have a MAGA hat. In the summer I have a NRA hat that I wear
> hiking; that's almost as good.

My father was a racist - northern racist. However
he WAS kinda odd about it. He'd sometimes rant about
'niggers' but most any 'negro' he ever worked with
was "OK" - sometimes they'd be over for dinner ...
and this was "the south". Even saw him stand up to
the Jim Crow bubbs once or twice. My mother had
been raised with her fam/brothers often employing
and working closely with 'negros' and didn't freak
about it at all.

In short, the 'racism' picture even in the southern
USA was not as simple and monolithic as the usual
rhetoric/media likes to portray. Reality would not
be as 'politically useful'.

On 1/3/25 7:06 PM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 02/01/2025 20:04, rbowman wrote:
>>> What isn't 'woke' these days? The language is over the top but does the
>>> end result really differ from civilized behavior in the workplace?
>>
>> Yes. Absolutely it does.
>>
>> Civilised behaviour is a culture of tolerance. Woke is a culture of
>> vicious intolerance towards anyone who challenges a narrow definition
>> of a modern Puritanism.
>>
>> Civilised behaviour doesn't get you fired. Civilised behaviour doesn't
>> get you blacklisted.
>>
>> Woke is part of the reason Trump will be president. People don't like
>> being told what to think. This isn't Putin's Russia.
>
> This is the truth. What we are seeing is a big reaction against the mind
> virus. In europe, a big part of the reaction is against immigration and
> eco-fascism.

Civilized, esp SANE, behavior DOES get you
fired these days ... or at least before
Trump 2.0 ... LOTS of examples.

On 1/3/25 9:09 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 04/01/2025 01:36, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> You probably wouldn't have so much immigration in Europe if the people
>> in charge in the United States weren't so determined to start wars
>> everywhere.
>
> Actually, its mainly Russia and Iran behind it all these days

Correct.

The USA is inherently isolationist ... would rather NOT
mess around with any other countries. There's "Here"
and "Over There".

But 'complications' develop. Reality WILL bite
you in the ass sometimes.

US 'domination' has never been very "imperial", more
'soft', 'economic'. We WILL compete for biz, but
DON'T want to invade/occupy your country unless things
just go all to shit.

Right NOW, there's kind of a lot of "all to shit"
so .........

When China blockades Taiwan ... then it's REAL SHIT
and I don't know what, if anything, we will/can do.
Our capabilities are mostly fake these days, all
pomp and posturing. No money for ye olde Cold
War 'defense'.

On 1/4/25 12:48 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 22:29:13 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>
>> I knew a guy who made bumpers out of two large wooden utility poles
>> he'd cut to size and shape. Older Chevy 3500 series. Looked 'rugged',
>> kinda 'back-country'. Damned things were a good 8" thick and about
>> 12" tall. No little old lady was gonna so much as dent them in a
>> parking-lot oopsie.
>
> It would make sense around here where the deer and the antelope play -- in
> the road. Scratch the antelope. They're lightweights. It the elk and moose
> that can really do a number.

Some time back, my mother went on a bus tour. A little
way into NS and a bull moose decided to challenge the
bus. Straight-on impact. Saw the oix - totally tore off
the right-front tire/suspension. Damned thing probably
weighted 2000 pounds.

It did not survive - but neither did the bus.

> I had a deer riding on the hood of my last Toyota. No fatal damage. The
> hood still closed although it had a new sculpted look and a few nylon ties
> took care of the plastic pieces.

Deer, esp in the Lower-48, have become a Real Hazard.
From about North Carolina on up a BIG hazard. The
'conservationists' insisted on blocking hunting deer
and now there are a zillion of them. They do NOT
'get' automobiles.

Oh ... there's a live police show ... "On Patrol Live".
Lately there was some perp and his girlfriend on a
motorcycle trying to flee at high speed. Somewhere
on a country track a deer abruptly leaped from the
bushes and T-boned the bike. End of chase :-)

On 12/27/24 7:39 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-28 00:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 14:57:55 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I appreciate that I can get gratis a piece of software that is
>>> that good.
>>
>> If you think Free Software could be better, and you would rather not give
>> money to a proprietary company, why not contribute some of that money to
>> the development of the Free Software and help make it better?
>
> How do you know if I already do, or don't?

As I said earlier ... some of the developer groups
have UNSAFE-seeming ways of contributing. It's
essentially a random web page that wants your CC
number. Can't tell if it's real, can't tell if
they, or monitoring Russians, won't rip you off.

The fix is a PHYSICAL ADDRESS that you can send
something like a money order to. A MO doesn't
have any of your bank routing numbers or anything
on it - so at most you'd lose just THAT amount
of money and no more.

Pass it along.

On 1/3/25 3:10 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2025-01-03 09:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/01/2025 13:56, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-03 06:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 02/01/2025 20:06, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-01-02 14:42, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 08:36:41 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find GNOME rather clunky whereas KDE, at least on Fedora and
>>>>>>> Nobara,
>>>>>>> is perfect out of the box. I imagine that a lot of people who try
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> Linux and face GNOME are going to wonder how to do the basics,
>>>>>>> and they
>>>>>>> will likely find that the way extensions work is rather clunky,
>>>>>>> especially during upgrades. Meanwhile, KDE is very familiar and
>>>>>>> offers a
>>>>>>> ton of features they could only dream of in Windows like the desktop
>>>>>>> effects, theming options and widgets. Unlike Cinnamon too, the
>>>>>>> widgets
>>>>>>> in KDE actually work as they should.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Ubuntu box has GNOME. I live with it but I'm not a fan. I'd
>>>>>> rather
>>>>>> have a menu structure rather than the 'Show Applications' button that
>>>>>> brings up three or four screens of unsorted stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> GNOME was designed with the belief that anyone looking for an
>>>>> application will press the Windows key and then type the name of
>>>>> what they're looking for rather than select it from a menu. That's
>>>>> how I do it whether I use Windows, GNOME or KDE so I would agree
>>>>> with their design choice.
>>>>>
>>>> Odd, since MATE - a superset of GNOME - expects you to use a menu.
>>>> Its very XP like.
>>>>
>>>> And since XP was what I was running when I switched entirely to
>>>> Linux, I didn't have to relearn very much at all..
>>>
>>> We are talking about GNOME _now_ not then.
>>>
>> Fairy Nuff. I have no idea what it is now, but MATE is still built on
>> gnome3  libraries AFAIK
>> And was a sort of fork of gnome2 desktop
>
> I always thought that MATE used GTK2. If it indeed uses GTK3, all the
> better.

GTK3 is a little better.

MATE isn't horrible, but it's still not my fave.
LXDE is my fave - JUST ENOUGH GUI. It's small
and it's sane and does what you need the way
you'd expect. Somewhere between the Win-2k
and XP experience.

DID like Win-2K ... still have it in a VM and
DO use it sometimes. Still ran 8/16 ... a big
advantage for people who love 'antique'-ware.
Nice simple GUI with few frills.

On 1/4/25 2:29 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-01-04, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>
>> Most ALL code of any size and scope can be "improved".
>> If not 'security' then streamlining. And yes, some of
>> the basic algos go all the way back to young Bill Gates.
>> They used to have contests - who could do what in the
>> least number of bytes/cycles. Bill often won.
>
> The tricks he used would get people fired now.

Heh ... maybe ... but then was then :-)

WORTH looking at. Fat-ware CAN be seriously
streamlined IF anybody bothers.

As for Bill's code - probably STILL in a lot
of stuff, almost unmodified.

>> (and then the blood-signed contract ... :-)
>
> I remember shooting someone out of the saddle when
> she claimed that Lord Bill was a programming genius.
> He was no such thing - but he was a _marketing_ genius.

I'll say he was a 'programming genius' ... but
even MORE a 'marketing genius'.

The little trick he pulled on IBM ... turned
into BILLIONS .......

I own a Tandy 'laptop'-like unit ... WAY before
real laptops ... it's got everything you need,
a crude word-processor and spreadsheet and BASIC
and stuff PLUS a couple of serial/modem interfaces.
It was a big fave with international news reporters
because you could compose yer stuff, plug into most
any standard phone line, and send it. Gates wrote
most of the code ... allegedly the LAST code he
ever personally wrote for a system.

ANYhow ... Bill didn't START as 'evil' ...

I'll give him THAT much slack.

On 1/3/25 7:27 AM, -hh wrote:
> On 1/3/25 6:52 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/01/2025 11:45, D wrote:
>>> No I think it is just because someone pulled in
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy. Seems a lot of trolls reside there. I looked
>>> into it, found it way to annoying, and stopped. But I got a reminder
>>> of why I stopped reading that group.
>>
>> Yup. Ain't that the truth.
>
> Yup, its a product of crossposting.  Things change and USENET just
> doesn't have the audience it did 30 years ago to have groups have
> sufficient critical mass to sustain (on- or off-topic) dialogs/

USENET isn't what it was ... has kinda fallen off
the proverbial radar. IMHO this is kinda GOOD.

Shit ... when I first got into Usenet the AI guru
Minsky used to post to the AI groups - things were
respectable then.

>> Linux is good all by itself. Doesn't need advocacy.
>
> Its a tool like anything else, so use the right tool for the job.

Well ... 'tool', yes ... but ALSO a 'philosophy',
a way of looking at things. Lin is NOT Win.

> Advocates in COLA have historically fight against the wisdom of
> understanding that everything has its own strengths & weaknesses,
> swimming against uses where other solutions are better.

Well, Win is MOSTLY 'weaknesses' ....

> For example, take a new digital camera: wouldn't it be nice to not have
> to wait a year to read its new RAW file format?  Most folk just want
> pics, so they choose a platform where its supported on launch, not to
> have to sit down to DIY write & test a 3rd party driver first.

Linux, and esp BSD Unix, are always a bit behind
the driver curve. However I've never found that to
be a major inconvenience. Much stuff just doesn't
change that quickly anymore.

> Meantime, my New Year's Resolution is to tweak my Linux NAS; seems that
> it needs a better RAM cache to not bottleneck on network, and those
> parts are due to arrive this weekend. I'll have to look around to see if
> I have some spare NVMEs to change up its disk cache while I'm at it too.
>  If that doesn't resolve things, then its probably time to look to some
> network gear to move some nodes from 1GbE to 10GbE.

Done lots of NAS over the years. Used packages
and kinda wrote my own too.

Yes, 'tweaks' can help - a LITTLE.

However, if you really try to benchmark it, the
tweaks don't REALLY add much but complication
and ops for failure.

So, from my long experience, stick close to
'vanilla' and you'll do OK and not SUFFER.

Oft unrealized gem these days - OpenMediaVault.
It's become a very complete NAS system yet is
still kinda 'light' code-wise. DO note that
you can't just write randomly to its files
because the system won't index it - will not
think your direct writes exist. Gotta set up
like SMB shares in scripts or whatever that
ref it's 'approved' shares. THEN it'll work.

On 1/3/25 3:16 PM, chrisv wrote:
> -highhorse wrote:
>
>> Its a tool like anything else, so use the right tool for the job.
>>
>> Advocates in COLA have historically fight against the wisdom of
>> understanding that everything has its own strengths & weaknesses,
>> swimming against uses where other solutions are better.
>
> Of course, -highhorse is lying. He's a trolling asshole who gets-off
> on attacking decent, reasonable people. His solutions are better, by
> gum, and he'll ridicule anyone who thinks otherwise.
>
> According to the -highhorse troll, "Linux is what sloppy cheapskates
> who cut corners prefer to use, rather than a quality product."

M$/Apple are the "sloppy" products ....

On 1/4/25 1:27 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:49:55 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> I think there's a sabb with an even wider one, but cannot find it. I saw
>> it in a garage many decades ago.
>
> Oh, the 900. I've seen a few of those. Saabs always were a minority brand
> in the US. I liked the old ones, but there were some really strange beasts
> like the Sonnet II. I don't know why there was a Volvo on every block
> while Saabs were driven by middle-aged lesbians.

In the early 80s I saw a Saab that LOOKED almost
like a Ferrari - deep deep met blue, just beautiful.

On 12/31/24 10:03 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 01:40:33 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
>
>> Biggest assholes where I live are Tesla owners, Dodge Hemi and Mustang
>> owners.
>> It used to be Land/Range Rover people but things have changed.
>
> When you pul up behind a F-250 with imitation bull testicles dangling from
> the trailer hitch you have a good idea what you're dealing with.

Got stuck in southern Kentucky once behind a Ford Courier
with a likely 1000 pound hog in the back. Every time it
would twitch its ass the whole vehicle would wobble :-)

That 'truck' had REAL balls hangin out the back ! :-)

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:56:46 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> The USA is inherently isolationist ... would rather NOT mess around
> with any other countries. There's "Here" and "Over There".

OH c'mon. "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.."
Jefferson was most likely exceeding his constitutional authority messing
around North Africa to protect private shipping interests. For a country
that 'would rather not mess around with other countries' it has messed
around with almost every other country in the world.

Sometimes the justifications are hilarious like McKinley's little
missionary activity.

" Unaware that the Philippines were the only predominantly Catholic nation
in Asia, President McKinley said that American occupation was necessary to
"uplift and Christianize" the Filipinos."

https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=3&psid=1257

On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 03:45:13 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> ANYhow ... Bill didn't START as 'evil' ...

His letter to the computer club bitching about people using HIS BASIC was
a good start on evil.

On 04/01/2025 07:30, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> In short, the 'racism' picture even in the southern
>   USA was not as simple and monolithic as the usual
>   rhetoric/media likes to portray. Reality would not
>   be as 'politically useful'.

I found the same in South Africa.

Very complex relationships. Much affection on both 'sides'

But the Rooinek Afrikaner farmer who told me at a party that 'they don't
have *souls*, you know' summed it up. He had dogs, he had cats and he
had Africans. All more or less wild creatures to be looked after.

It was all falling apart anyway, but the Marxists came along, stirred it
up, taught everyone hatred, and made a great big disaster, and have been
in power ever since., although there are signs that the Africans and
other 'races' are falling out of love with them.

The most salient thing I learnt was that the white European/American
'liberals' had absolutely no frickin idea of what it was all about.

They just jumped on the simplistic bandwagon of 'political emancipation'
achieved it, and then dumped the whole mess into the hands of the people
living there.

It's important to remember that the Africans who became slaves were the
ones that were too fat or too stupid to run away when the next door
tribe came to 'harvest' them and sell them for cash.

The ones that stayed are pretty damned smart.

--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

On 04/01/2025 06:16, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:06:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 04/01/2025 00:43, D wrote:
>>> Negro has also become a symbol word.
>>
>> You have to be really uneducated and thick not to know it simply means
>> 'black'.
>
> The best PC invention is latinx. It sounds like something you take when
> you haven't shit in three days. I don't even think the latinx people care
> for it. Indian is touchy too. Some are into 'Native American', some
> aren't.
Well calling them Indians was a mistake made by some twat who thought
the world was a lot smaller than it turned out to be. And he had sailed
west to India...

An alarming number of words are mistranslations and corruptions.

--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy

On 04/01/2025 06:27, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:49:55 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> I think there's a sabb with an even wider one, but cannot find it. I saw
>> it in a garage many decades ago.
>
> Oh, the 900. I've seen a few of those. Saabs always were a minority brand
> in the US. I liked the old ones, but there were some really strange beasts
> like the Sonnet II. I don't know why there was a Volvo on every block
> while Saabs were driven by middle-aged lesbians.

Penis envy

--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy