-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>of the major desktop OSs, the one today whose advocates
>still have a huge inferiority complex is ... Linux.

Inferiority complex? Lol, it's M$ and Apple that should have that,
with their proprietary copies of Unix. I mean, macOS is legitimately
Unix in a way Winblows isn't, I know, but yet that has nothing to do
with the Apple-centric GUI stuff, which is mostly what these Apple
fanboys are using. Obviously, there are things Win11 and macOS can
do, that are special for specific people doing specific things, but
for a person just wanting an OS to use the Internet, Linux is
profoundly the winner.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 8/29/24 6:25 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vaoh67$3m34v$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 8/28/24 10:57 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vald68$339at$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 8/27/24 1:29 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vake0k$2vdj8$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 8/26/24 7:38 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:vahrqn$24i6v$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/25/24 2:16 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vafpij$210a8$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/24/24 4:04 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> -hh says...
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, the saga of the popular civilian adoption of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the AR is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting one, particularly in light of how little the DoD
>>>>>>>>>>>> pays for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them relative to how much they retail for in the civilian
>>>>>>>>>>>> market...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a gun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter:  a poor value product is still a poor value
>>>>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you buy cheap shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quite the opposite: the manufacturing which fails to meet MIL
>>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>>> gets re-binned & sold off in the civilian market distribution
>>>>>>>> channel....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not in the U.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With ~99% parts commonality, why wouldn't both be coming off of
>>>>>> the same production line?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, most of the military stuff is probably what didn't pass
>>>>> quality control standards for the civilian market.
>>>>>
>>>>> After all the government has no issues buying a 5 MOA rifle..
>>>>
>>>> I said 0.5 MOA, not 5 MOA.
>>>
>>> I'm sure YOU did.. the government however, did not.
>>
>> Done with different sample sizes and testing conditions that your
>> range buddies who claim 1-2 MOA in reality
>
> Yawn.. I see you flapping your lips, but I don't see you actually
> proving anything.

No need to, because you already have tacitly admitted that you lost by
you snipping the rest of my statement:

[quote]
Done with different sample sizes and testing conditions that your range
buddies who claim 1-2 MOA in reality always play fast & loose with, with
extensive "mulligans" to not admit that their $1200 gun has got only a
mediocre barrel.

Plus statistically, the contractor will pass that test consistently,
time & time & time again, which requires a substantially lower true
dispersion average than whatever the test limit is: figure 3+ standard
deviations...or more, when its an AOZ requirement in the contract.
[/quote]

Knowing how cheaters try to cheat was simply another part of the job.

-hh

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:22:43 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I installed Debian, once, when it booted it immediately hacked my
> neighbor's WiFi, presumably to phone home. Weird. Good distro, though.

Most distros phone home for updates. If your neighbor has an unsecured
wifi that's his problem. I was visiting my brother and opened my laptop to
look at a mapping application. Surprisingly it connect to the net. My
brother's computer was hardwired and there was no hotspot. Thank you,
anonymous neighbor.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> I use debian now and it's pretty dang good :D

I use Debian on my work machine. Being on the trailing edge is good when
you're building production apps.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> I installed Debian, once, when it booted it immediately hacked my
>> neighbor's WiFi, presumably to phone home. Weird. Good distro, though.
>
>Most distros phone home for updates. If your neighbor has an unsecured
>wifi that's his problem. I was visiting my brother and opened my laptop to
>look at a mapping application. Surprisingly it connect to the net. My
>brother's computer was hardwired and there was no hotspot. Thank you,
>anonymous neighbor.

Well, it was a network with a password and all, but out-of-date
protocol, so Debian's installer had included code to hack that, and
the installed OS utilized it without me telling it to. Weird.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-08-30, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>>> I installed Debian, once, when it booted it immediately hacked my
>>> neighbor's WiFi, presumably to phone home. Weird. Good distro, though.
>>
>>Most distros phone home for updates. If your neighbor has an unsecured
>>wifi that's his problem. I was visiting my brother and opened my laptop to
>>look at a mapping application. Surprisingly it connect to the net. My
>>brother's computer was hardwired and there was no hotspot. Thank you,
>>anonymous neighbor.
>
>
> Well, it was a network with a password and all, but out-of-date
> protocol, so Debian's installer had included code to hack that, and
> the installed OS utilized it without me telling it to. Weird.
>
Hacking a WiFi password is trivial script kiddie stuff.
And open Bluetooth connections are even more fun.

When I am out and about like eating in a restaurant I always scan for open Bluetooth connections
because the restaurants usually do not secure them.
If they happen to be playing music, which most are, I connect and play some classic Yoko Ono music.
It's a lot of fun watching the reaction of the patrons as well as the staff who cannot figure out
what happened.
This one is a good choice.
https://youtu.be/IpX1wBrCymo?si=Bhckapfggx_CVmjC

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

In news:vake0k$2vdj8$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
typed:

> On 8/26/24 7:38 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:vahrqn$24i6v$2@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>> typed:
>>> On 8/25/24 2:16 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <vafpij$210a8$1@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>>> says...
>>>>> On 8/24/24 4:04 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> -hh says...
....
>>>>>>> In any event, the saga of the popular civilian adoption of the AR is an
>>>>>>> interesting one, particularly in light of how little the DoD pays for
>>>>>>> them relative to how much they retail for in the civilian market...

>>>>>> It's just a gun.

>>>>> Doesn't matter: a poor value product is still a poor value product.

>>>> Maybe you buy cheap shit.

>>> Quite the opposite: the manufacturing which fails to meet MIL standards
>>> gets re-binned & sold off in the civilian market distribution channel....

>> Not in the U.S.

> With ~99% parts commonality, why wouldn't both be coming off of the same
> production line?

Is Uncle Sugar buying M16s from makers other than Colt these days?

There are dozens of AR clone makers out there.

In news:vakpio$31aub$1@dont-email.me, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
typed:

> Baxter wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB1DADF0DFED16629555@
>> 185.151.15.160:
>>> somebody wrote:

>>>> The media is very powerful and those who control the media control the
>>>> people.

>>> Then why did Trump win in 2016?

>> Well, duh - the Media is on tRump's side. They are NOT non-partisan.

> The "mainstream" media for years have treated Trump with kid-gloves, in my
> opinion. They would hammer on Biden and the economy without any reference to
> how bad it got under Trump. They show only his least k00ky video segments.

"Even more lopsided, our analysts found ten times more evaluative statements
about Trump than Biden: 890 comments about the President, of which 822 (92.4%)
were negative, vs. 68 (7.6%) that were positive. Note that these totals do not
include statements about the candidates' prospects in the campaign horse race
(i.e., standings in the polls, chances to win, etc.), nor does it include
partisan statements from the candidates or their surrogates....

"If Trump's coverage seems nightmarishly negative, Biden's media profile might
be a dream-come-true for a presidential nominee, especially one favored in the
polls. Out of 91 evaluative comments, Biden benefitted from 60 positive
statements, vs. only 31 that were negative, adding up to a sunny 66% positive
good press score...."

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2020/10/27/never-more-biased-tv-blasts-trump-92-negative-coverage-66-positive

> The media are run by wealthy people who think they will benefit from Trump's
> tax breaks, while tariffs and mass deportation might well crater our economy
> worse than COVID-19 did.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/how-i-learned-the-truth-of-the-medias-very-fine-trump-lies/

In news:val2n4$32i8g$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
typed:

> On 8/26/24 4:48 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:vahri1$24i6v$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>> typed:
>>> On 8/25/24 5:01 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:vafqk3$210a8$2@dont-email.me, -hh typed:
>>>>> On 8/20/24 12:49 AM, max headroom wrote:

>>>>>> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?

>>>>> What you're trying to get people to believe is that a CSM was notified
>>>>> by DA HQ of the deployment *before* the Unit Commander was notified.

>>>> Is English not your mother tongue?

>>> Your attempted insult shows the readers that you read the above and that
>>> you know that your argument is invalid.

>>> Indeed, ridiculously so.

>>> You've clearly never learned how the US Army operates: likely because
>>> the comic strip "Beetle Bailey" is the limit of your knowledge.

>> So you DO think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander.

> Nope.

> Because you've chosen to mix up the point of the Command Structure:

> Orders *do not* come in directly to the CSM, who then orders his
> Commander around.

> Orders come in to the Command, and the Commander then disseminates them
> down the chain of command - which includes the CSM & other senior NCOs.

And that's what I wrote.

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:38:39 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
wrote:

>In news:vakpio$31aub$1@dont-email.me, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
>typed:
>
>> Baxter wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB1DADF0DFED16629555@
>>> 185.151.15.160:
>>>> somebody wrote:
>
>>>>> The media is very powerful and those who control the media control the
>>>>> people.
>
>>>> Then why did Trump win in 2016?
>
>>> Well, duh - the Media is on tRump's side. They are NOT non-partisan.
>
>> The "mainstream" media for years have treated Trump with kid-gloves, in my
>> opinion. They would hammer on Biden and the economy without any reference to
>> how bad it got under Trump. They show only his least k00ky video segments.
>
>"Even more lopsided, our analysts found ten times more evaluative statements
>about Trump than Biden: 890 comments about the President, of which 822 (92.4%)
>were negative, vs. 68 (7.6%) that were positive. Note that these totals do not
>include statements about the candidates' prospects in the campaign horse race
>(i.e., standings in the polls, chances to win, etc.), nor does it include
>partisan statements from the candidates or their surrogates....
>
>"If Trump's coverage seems nightmarishly negative, Biden's media profile might
>be a dream-come-true for a presidential nominee, especially one favored in the
>polls. Out of 91 evaluative comments, Biden benefitted from 60 positive
>statements, vs. only 31 that were negative, adding up to a sunny 66% positive
>good press score...."
>
>https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2020/10/27/never-more-biased-tv-blasts-trump-92-negative-coverage-66-positive
>
>> The media are run by wealthy people who think they will benefit from Trump's
>> tax breaks, while tariffs and mass deportation might well crater our economy
>> worse than COVID-19 did.
>
>https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/how-i-learned-the-truth-of-the-medias-very-fine-trump-lies/
>

Fucking crybabies. The media has figured out that Project 25 and Agenda 47 will
curtail their freedom to publish. Iow, democracy has become more important than
profit. A very different situation than in 2016 when CNN was instrumental in
getting Trump elected.

USA! USA! USA!
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s5ZqA17p-p8>

--
#NEVERtrump

On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:28:52 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Inferiority complex? Lol, it's M$ and Apple that should have that,
>with their proprietary copies of Unix. I mean, macOS is legitimately
>Unix in a way Winblows isn't, I know, but yet that has nothing to do
>with the Apple-centric GUI stuff, which is mostly what these Apple
>fanboys are using. Obviously, there are things Win11 and macOS can
>do, that are special for specific people doing specific things, but
>for a person just wanting an OS to use the Internet, Linux is
>profoundly the winner.

And the vast majority of users don't care.

The explainer in chief
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xhEMda5JUhc>

--
#NEVERtrump

On 8/30/24 12:54 AM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:val2n4$32i8g$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> typed:
>
>> On 8/26/24 4:48 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:vahri1$24i6v$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>> typed:
>>>> On 8/25/24 5:01 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:vafqk3$210a8$2@dont-email.me, -hh typed:
>>>>>> On 8/20/24 12:49 AM, max headroom wrote:
>
>>>>>>> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?
>
>>>>>> What you're trying to get people to believe is that a CSM was notified
>>>>>> by DA HQ of the deployment *before* the Unit Commander was notified.
>
>>>>> Is English not your mother tongue?
>
>>>> Your attempted insult shows the readers that you read the above and that
>>>> you know that your argument is invalid.
>
>>>> Indeed, ridiculously so.
>
>>>> You've clearly never learned how the US Army operates: likely because
>>>> the comic strip "Beetle Bailey" is the limit of your knowledge.
>
>>> So you DO think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander.
>
>> Nope.
>
>> Because you've chosen to mix up the point of the Command Structure:
>
>> Orders *do not* come in directly to the CSM, who then orders his
>> Commander around.
>
>> Orders come in to the Command, and the Commander then disseminates them
>> down the chain of command - which includes the CSM & other senior NCOs.
>
> And that's what I wrote.
Glad you agree now.

Your claim started on 8/19 when you used Doug Julin's "recollection" of
when he claimed his Unit got notified, a date which has been found to
have been false, as per official records. Recall that Julin was the CSM
who was butthurt mad because Walz didn't get *his* personal approval to
retire, which requires a messed-up chain of command that I'm correcting.

Bottom line is that Walz's retirement wasn't an "abandoned his unit",
despite all of the bogus & partisan claims being made.

-hh

On 8/30/24 5:32 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:38:39 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In news:vakpio$31aub$1@dont-email.me, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
>> typed:
>>
>>> Baxter wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB1DADF0DFED16629555@
>>>> 185.151.15.160:
>>>>> somebody wrote:
>>
>>>>>> The media is very powerful and those who control the media control the
>>>>>> people.
>>
>>>>> Then why did Trump win in 2016?
>>
>>>> Well, duh - the Media is on tRump's side. They are NOT non-partisan.
>>
>>> The "mainstream" media for years have treated Trump with kid-gloves, in my
>>> opinion. They would hammer on Biden and the economy without any reference to
>>> how bad it got under Trump. They show only his least k00ky video segments.
>>
>> "Even more lopsided, our analysts found ten times more evaluative statements
>> about Trump than Biden: 890 comments about the President, of which 822 (92.4%)
>> were negative, vs. 68 (7.6%) that were positive. Note that these totals do not
>> include statements about the candidates' prospects in the campaign horse race
>> (i.e., standings in the polls, chances to win, etc.), nor does it include
>> partisan statements from the candidates or their surrogates....
>>
>> "If Trump's coverage seems nightmarishly negative, Biden's media profile might
>> be a dream-come-true for a presidential nominee, especially one favored in the
>> polls. Out of 91 evaluative comments, Biden benefitted from 60 positive
>> statements, vs. only 31 that were negative, adding up to a sunny 66% positive
>> good press score...."
>>
>> https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2020/10/27/never-more-biased-tv-blasts-trump-92-negative-coverage-66-positive
>>
>>> The media are run by wealthy people who think they will benefit from Trump's
>>> tax breaks, while tariffs and mass deportation might well crater our economy
>>> worse than COVID-19 did.
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/opinion/how-i-learned-the-truth-of-the-medias-very-fine-trump-lies/
>>
>
> Fucking crybabies. The media has figured out that Project 25 and Agenda 47 will
> curtail their freedom to publish. Iow, democracy has become more important than
> profit. A very different situation than in 2016 when CNN was instrumental in
> getting Trump elected.

Yet there's still a lot of uneven spin going on. I was told recently of
one media outlet (NBC? I wasn't paying attention) that's supposedly
making their reporting essentially as follows:

Trump changes a policy: "Rebranding"
Harris changes a policy: "Flip-Flopping".

Yeah, that's clearly _very_ unbiased! /s

-hh

-hh wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

I don't need to read your made-up nonsense, -highhorse. I saw what
Joel quoted of it. It was as expected, from you.

--
"the COLA fanboys seem to never grok [that choice has costs]." -
lying asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly

On 8/30/24 8:24 AM, chrisv wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
> I don't need to read your made-up nonsense, -highhorse. I saw what
> Joel quoted of it. It was as expected, from you.
>

Unfortunately, the post that chrisv read ...& snipped...

wasn't made by Joel, but by Chris Ahlstrom.

As I've said before:
if chrisv doesn't want to get slammed for saying stupid stuff, the
simple solution is for him to not say stupid stuff to begin with.

-hh

Governor Swill wrote:
> users don't care.

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Fucking crybabies.

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE WELL-DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Lou Bricano wrote:
> bullshit claim

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE WELL-DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Governor Swill wrote:
> delete you not

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE WELL-DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
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U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Governor Swill wrote:
> faulty rifles

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Inferiority complex? Lol, it's M$ and Apple that should have that,
>>with their proprietary copies of Unix. I mean, macOS is legitimately
>>Unix in a way Winblows isn't, I know, but yet that has nothing to do
>>with the Apple-centric GUI stuff, which is mostly what these Apple
>>fanboys are using. Obviously, there are things Win11 and macOS can
>>do, that are special for specific people doing specific things, but
>>for a person just wanting an OS to use the Internet, Linux is
>>profoundly the winner.
>
>And the vast majority of users don't care.

The market for OEM computers isn't what it once was, though. People
are using phones. The market for PC users who would install their own
OS is relatively high, now. I'm not saying Linux has taken over, but
it's made strides.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Naw, bud. That's on you.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom and a dozen other socks wrote:

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> So android is Linux

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On 8/30/24 12:54 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vaqvki$5ok0$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 8/29/24 6:23 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>> "-hh" wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/24 10:56 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>> "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/27/24 1:16 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>> "-hh" wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/26/24 9:56 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/25/24 2:16 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/24/24 4:04 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any event, the saga of the popular civilian adoption of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the AR is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting one, particularly in light of how little the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DoD pays for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them relative to how much they retail for in the civilian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a gun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter:  a poor value product is still a poor value
>>>>>>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you buy cheap shit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quite the opposite: the manufacturing which fails to meet MIL
>>>>>>>>>> standards
>>>>>>>>>> gets re-binned & sold off in the civilian market distribution
>>>>>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and that's despite how the MIL contracts has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significantly higher QA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and testing expenses in their manufacturing overhead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's still just a gun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So?  The point is that there's a large bunch of fools who
>>>>>>>>>>>> pay too much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So? Why do you care?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Its the same fools who try the "derp!  it wasn't an M16, but
>>>>>>>>>> an M16A2!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It comes down to marketing hype for a profitable product,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just like how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automakers push SUVs because they're more profitable for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guns don't kill people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So then if they're so harmless, you're saying that you're
>>>>>>>>>>>> also willing
>>>>>>>>>>>> to take the same risk of being hit by a few rounds...right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The gun didn't shoot them. The person holding the gun did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After all, you've defended the claim that "its just a fancy
>>>>>>>>>>>> .22!" /s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is. and how it's used is up to the person holding it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you going to stand downrange to take a few 'mosquito bites'
>>>>>>>>>> or not?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's still just a gun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure is. My point is to not get mad at those who *laugh* at
>>>>>>>> those who fail to do their homework & pay twice as much as its
>>>>>>>> actually worth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm.. So tell me how exactly did you determine it's worth half
>>>>>>> of what people are paying and why hasn't someone come along
>>>>>>> selling it at a 25% discount and still making a fortune?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) historical DoD contract prices; b) IP restricts copycats.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do realize that most people only buy 1 or 2 at a time.. nothing
>>>>> THOUSANDS.
>>>>
>>>> But there's hundreds of thousands of them, and (1)*(500K) = (500K)*(1)
>>>
>>> Yep, when 500K are buying guns one at a time.. it's more expensive
>>> than one person buying 500K guns.
>>
>> Except you've already noted that individuals typically can't buy
>> direct from the gunmakers, so your claim isn't relevant or valid.
>
> On the contrary.. the added middle men are going to absolutely increase
> the price for them since they are going to have to be making money as
> well..
>
> Which just further undermines your WHOLE argument... thanks for pointing
> out the weakness in your argument.

The problem with your attempted counterpoint is that it doesn't match
the scale of the cost discrepancy: the middlemen are fungible, which
means that they have to compete based on lower prices = low margins.

So then, just _who_ is pocketing the huge ~100% markup vs what DoD pays?
Principles of capitalism & free market says it can't be these middlemen.

-hh

In article <t7s1dj1iejg2lpk26bdgvmc9cj50m08g73@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Your response will be deleted, unread.
>
>
> Why do you think anyone gives a shit, dude? Lighten up.

What right will Trump take from you as you claimed?