-hh wrote:
> At best, people are suggesting that there were rumors.  Of course rumors
> exist and get tossed around too, but that observation doesn't magically
> give them credibility, especially the further out that one goes.
>
>
> -hh

The man is a genocidal freak!

https://thelibertydaily.com/remember-when-tampon-tim-bribed-minnesotans-sign-their/

In early January 2022, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who was just selected to
be Kamala Harris’ running mate, tried to bribe Minnesota families into
“vaccinating” their children with the latest shots for the Wuhan
coronavirus (COVID-19).

In a then-Twitter post, Walz offered families who jabbed their children
aged five through 11 a $200 reward, which he saw as a fitting amount to
forever ruin the immune systems of little ones throughout his state.

“That’s cash in your pocket for starting the year off right by
protecting your child from COVID,” Walz declared in the post, dated Jan.
11, 2022.

Dubbed “Kids Deserve a Shot,” the program from Walz was eventually ended
and the Twitter post in question removed. Perhaps Walz is embarrassed
now about what he did, or maybe it’s bad for he and Kamala Harris’
chances of getting elected this fall?

“Minnesota families who get their child 5-11 years old fully vaccinated
in January and February can get a $200 Visa gift card,” read the
official website for Kids Deserve a Shot.

“Parents / Guardians can register their 5- to 11-year-old once they have
completed their two-dose series.”

But wait...there's more:

Walz also created college scholarship lottery baiting young Minnesotans
into getting COVID jabbed
In addition to the $200 gift card scheme, Walz also set up a
taxpayer-funded lottery system offering five $100,000 scholarships to
five children aged five through 11 whose parents agreed to get them
injected for the Chinese virus.

“All Minnesotans 5-11 years old who completed their first and second
doses at any point in time will be eligible to be entered for a chance
to win a $100,000 college scholarship,” the website for that scheme
explained.

As all of this was happening, Walz also set up a snitching hotline for
Minnesota’s COVIDiots to rat out their non-compliant neighbors for
violating his stay-at-home orders.

“A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz’s administration to monitor
compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of
reports from Minnesotans who snitched on their neighbors for things like
playing basketball in a park, walking their dogs, and throwing small
parties,” Alpha News reported.

Shane Trejo of Big League Politics says Walz deserved to be put behind
bars for his many crimes against humanity throughout the “pandemic.”

“Gov. Walz deserves to be behind bars with the likes of the American
Mengele Dr. Anthony Fauci for crimes against humanity for his COVID
policies,” Trejo wrote in a post on his Substack.

“Kamala Harris’ choice of Gov. Walz as her Vice President ought to be
interpreted as a declaration of war against the American public.”

⚰️ ⚰️ ⚰️ ⚰️

-hh wrote:
> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:

The man is a genocidal freak!

https://thelibertydaily.com/remember-when-tampon-tim-bribed-minnesotans-sign-their/

In early January 2022, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who was just selected to
be Kamala Harris’ running mate, tried to bribe Minnesota families into
“vaccinating” their children with the latest shots for the Wuhan
coronavirus (COVID-19).

In a then-Twitter post, Walz offered families who jabbed their children
aged five through 11 a $200 reward, which he saw as a fitting amount to
forever ruin the immune systems of little ones throughout his state.

“That’s cash in your pocket for starting the year off right by
protecting your child from COVID,” Walz declared in the post, dated Jan.
11, 2022.

Dubbed “Kids Deserve a Shot,” the program from Walz was eventually ended
and the Twitter post in question removed. Perhaps Walz is embarrassed
now about what he did, or maybe it’s bad for he and Kamala Harris’
chances of getting elected this fall?

“Minnesota families who get their child 5-11 years old fully vaccinated
in January and February can get a $200 Visa gift card,” read the
official website for Kids Deserve a Shot.

“Parents / Guardians can register their 5- to 11-year-old once they have
completed their two-dose series.”

But wait...there's more:

Walz also created college scholarship lottery baiting young Minnesotans
into getting COVID jabbed
In addition to the $200 gift card scheme, Walz also set up a
taxpayer-funded lottery system offering five $100,000 scholarships to
five children aged five through 11 whose parents agreed to get them
injected for the Chinese virus.

“All Minnesotans 5-11 years old who completed their first and second
doses at any point in time will be eligible to be entered for a chance
to win a $100,000 college scholarship,” the website for that scheme
explained.

As all of this was happening, Walz also set up a snitching hotline for
Minnesota’s COVIDiots to rat out their non-compliant neighbors for
violating his stay-at-home orders.

“A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz’s administration to monitor
compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of
reports from Minnesotans who snitched on their neighbors for things like
playing basketball in a park, walking their dogs, and throwing small
parties,” Alpha News reported.

Shane Trejo of Big League Politics says Walz deserved to be put behind
bars for his many crimes against humanity throughout the “pandemic.”

“Gov. Walz deserves to be behind bars with the likes of the American
Mengele Dr. Anthony Fauci for crimes against humanity for his COVID
policies,” Trejo wrote in a post on his Substack.

“Kamala Harris’ choice of Gov. Walz as her Vice President ought to be
interpreted as a declaration of war against the American public.”

⚰️ ⚰️ ⚰️ ⚰️

Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any record
>> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>
> Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
> distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:

Translation:

You can’t substantiate your claim, so you’re trying now to change the
subject.

In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn’t
received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:

[quote]
“…Bonnifield said. “At the time he retired, we hadn’t gotten alert notice.
We had no notice other than ‘this could happen.’ It could have, may not
have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people that
did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for retiring, I
don’t know.”
[/quote]

<https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>

But wait, there’s more (same source):

[quote]
“All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard have
an ax to grind,” [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of the
people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
accounts dripping with rightwing invective. “It’s got nothing to do with
army service. It’s got nothing to do with the army values. It’s all
politics.
[quote]

Finally, one more (ibid):

[quote]
“When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
contractual agreement,” said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota national
guard’s joint chief of staff. ‘Their request is reviewed and must be
approved by leadership.”
[/quote]

Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip’s claimant was
from a CSM who’s trying to claim that *he* didn’t approve Walz’s retirement
papers.

Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn’t know his own damn job: the
CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he utterly
lacks the authority he thinks he had to “approve” the action.

The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a consultative
role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their CSM
says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.

<https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>

-hh

In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> > -hh wrote:
> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any record
> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
> >
> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>
> Translation:
>
> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change the
> subject.
>
> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>
> [quote]
> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert notice.
> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may not
> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people that
> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for retiring, I
> don?t know.?
> [/quote]
>
> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
>
> But wait, there?s more (same source):
>
> [quote]
> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard have
> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of the
> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do with
> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
> politics.
> [quote]
>
> Finally, one more (ibid):
>
> [quote]
> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota national
> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
> approved by leadership.?
> [/quote]
>
> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s claimant was
> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s retirement
> papers.
>
> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job: the
> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he utterly
> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
>
> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a consultative
> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their CSM
> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
>
> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
>
> -hh

He still lied.

On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, -hh wrote:
> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any record
>>> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>>
>> Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
>> distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>
> Translation:
>
> You can’t substantiate your claim, so you’re trying now to change the
> subject.
>
> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn’t
> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>
> [quote]
> “…Bonnifield said. “At the time he retired, we hadn’t gotten alert notice.
> We had no notice other than ‘this could happen.’

That's how it works in the real military you wimp.

You don't warn your fucking enemies that you're planning to come to kill
them like those stupid gay bitches Clinton and Obama did.

You drop or walk in on them, and kill every living breathing one of them
- fast. Don't leave a single one to chance. Do the walk around and put
a round in the head if there is any doubt what-so-ever.

After that you clean and repair your weapons, restock ammo if you got
it, take a crap and eat. If you're done you pack up and leave, or get
ready to go kill the next bunch.

It's not your job to die for your country. It's your job to make the
other son-of-a-bitch die for his.

Modern day Democrats are a bunch of pussies when it comes to taking care
of this kind of business. They don't have the commitment or fortitude
for it.

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>typed:
>
>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>> typed:
>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>>>> typed:
>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>
>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing shells.
>
>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he walked his
>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>
>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your opinion. If
>>>>>>> their batteries are in range of your guns, you're in range of theirs.
>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>
>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked with
>>>>>>> Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people disagree with Walz,
>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>
>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to send
>>>>>> his unit to Iraq....
>
>>>>> Cite?
>
>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this summary:
>
>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-service-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>
>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>
>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly, this
>>>> isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead time prior
>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>
>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team
>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>
>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the unit
>> had received any of their notifications.
>
>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
>
>
>> [quote]
>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>
>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to 2009,
>> these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>
>> May 2005: separation.
>
>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>
>> March 2006: deployment
>> [/quote]
>
>Incomplete--
>
>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.): ... And I'm
>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received, my
>commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat
>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed
>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time
>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together, and
>let's get the process in play...."
>
>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-
>

Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his decision to run for
Congress and retire from the NG.

But I repeat myself.

What did Trump do when he was in the military?

#NEVERtrump

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 18:04:24 -0700, Larry Lamczyk <llamczyk@facebook.com> wrote:

>Modern day Democrats are a bunch of pussies when it comes to taking care
>of this kind of business. They don't have the commitment or fortitude
>for it.

But they're going to beat Fat Boy to political death at the ballot box in November.

#NEVERtrump

In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>> In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>> typed:
>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>>> typed:
>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:

>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing shells.

>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he walked his
>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.

>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your opinion. If
>>>>>>>> their batteries are in range of your guns, you're in range of theirs.
>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.

>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked with
>>>>>>>> Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people disagree with Walz,
>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.

>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to send
>>>>>>> his unit to Iraq....

>>>>>> Cite?

>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this summary:

>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-service-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html

>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:

>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly, this
>>>>> isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead time prior
>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).

>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team
>>>> received its notification of sourcing.

>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the unit
>>> had received any of their notifications.

>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:

>>> [quote]
>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.

>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to 2009,
>>> these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.

>>> May 2005: separation.

>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit

>>> March 2006: deployment
>>> [/quote]

>> Incomplete--

>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.): ... And
>> I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received, my
>> commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>> Combat Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
>> were informed that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next
>> upcoming year or time period out there, start preparing your team, getting
>> your team together, and let's get the process in play...."

>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-

> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.

You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?

> But I repeat myself.

> What did Trump do when he was in the military?

Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 21:49:08 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>
>Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
>

Then why are your panties in such a wad about Walz only serving 24 years?

#NEVERtrump

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c3db98$3$212409$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
> huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>> > -hh wrote:
>> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any record
>> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>> >
>> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
>> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>>
>> Translation:
>>
>> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change the
>> subject.
>>
>> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
>> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>>
>> [quote]
>> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert
>> notice.
>> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may not
>> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people that
>> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for retiring, I
>> don?t know.?
>> [/quote]
>>
>> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
>>
>> But wait, there?s more (same source):
>>
>> [quote]
>> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard
>> have
>> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of the
>> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
>> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do with
>> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
>> politics.
>> [quote]
>>
>> Finally, one more (ibid):
>>
>> [quote]
>> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
>> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
>> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota national
>> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
>> approved by leadership.?
>> [/quote]
>>
>> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s claimant was
>> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s
>> retirement
>> papers.
>>
>> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job: the
>> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he utterly
>> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
>>
>> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
>> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a consultative
>> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their
>> CSM
>> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
>>
>> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
>>
>> -hh
>
> He still lied.

About what? When? Proof?

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>typed:
>>
>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>>> typed:
>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial
>>>>>>>> 911!
>>
>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
>>>>>>>>> shells.
>>
>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he walked
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>>
>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your opinion. If
>>>>>>>> their batteries are in range of your guns, you're in range of
>>>>>>>> theirs.
>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>>
>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked with
>>>>>>>> Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people disagree with
>>>>>>>> Walz,
>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>>
>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to send
>>>>>>> his unit to Iraq....
>>
>>>>>> Cite?
>>
>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this summary:
>>
>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-service-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>>
>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>>
>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly, this
>>>>> isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead time
>>>>> prior
>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>>
>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat
>>>> Team
>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>>
>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the unit
>>> had received any of their notifications.
>>
>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
>>
>>
>>> [quote]
>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>>
>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to 2009,
>>> these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>>
>>> May 2005: separation.
>>
>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>>
>>> March 2006: deployment
>>> [/quote]
>>
>>Incomplete--
>>
>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.): ... And
>>I'm
>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received, my
>>commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>>Combat
>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were
>>informed
>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or
>>time
>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
>>and
>>let's get the process in play...."
>>
>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-
>>
>
> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> decision to run for
> Congress and retire from the NG.
>
> But I repeat myself.
>
> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>
> #NEVERtrump

What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military? What
did Hillary do in the military?

If having to perform military service is a requirement for the President, or
even to run for that office.. then you need to show us their military
records.

<Crickets>

Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..

"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
news:va185h$38p5l$2@dont-email.me:

> In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>
>>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
>>>>>>>>> dial 911!
>
>>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
>>>>>>>>>> shells.
>
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
>>>>>>>>>> walked his retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>
>>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
>>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
>>>>>>>>> in range of theirs. You have obviously never been around a
>>>>>>>>> battery, either.
>
>>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
>>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
>>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz, but most people who work with him like
>>>>>>>>> him.
>
>>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
>>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
>
>>>>>>> Cite?
>
>>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
>>>>>> summary:
>
>>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
>>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>
>>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>
>>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
>>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
>>>>>> time prior to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>
>>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>>>>> Combat Team received its notification of sourcing.
>
>>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
>>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
>
>>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
>
>
>>>> [quote]
>>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>
>>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
>>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>
>>>> May 2005: separation.
>
>>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>
>>>> March 2006: deployment
>>>> [/quote]
>
>>> Incomplete--
>
>>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>> ... And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what
>>> we received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
>>> Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification
>>> of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed that we would be
>>> alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period
>>> out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
>>> and let's get the process in play...."
>
>>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qu
>>> it-and-went-over-my-
>
>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
>> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.
>
> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?
>
>> But I repeat myself.
>
>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>
> Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
>
Are Obama and Clinton yapping about someone's military experience?

"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:

>
>
> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>>>
>>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>>>> typed:
>>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
>>>>>>>>> dial 911!
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
>>>>>>>>>> shells.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
>>>>>>>>>> walked his
>>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
>>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
>>>>>>>>> in range of theirs.
>>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
>>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
>>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz,
>>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
>>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
>>>
>>>>>>> Cite?
>>>
>>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
>>>>>> summary:
>>>
>>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
>>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>>>
>>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>>>
>>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
>>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
>>>>>> time prior
>>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>>>
>>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>>>>> Combat Team
>>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>>>
>>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
>>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
>>>
>>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
>>>
>>>
>>>> [quote]
>>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>>>
>>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
>>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>>>
>>>> May 2005: separation.
>>>
>>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>>>
>>>> March 2006: deployment
>>>> [/quote]
>>>
>>>Incomplete--
>>>
>>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>>... And I'm
>>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received,
>>>my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division
>>>Brigade Combat
>>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
>>>were informed
>>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year
>>>or time
>>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
>>>together, and
>>>let's get the process in play...."
>>>
>>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qui
>>>t-and-went-over-my-
>>>
>>
>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
>> decision to run for
>> Congress and retire from the NG.
>>
>> But I repeat myself.
>>
>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>>
>> #NEVERtrump
>
> What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military?
> What did Hillary do in the military?
>
> If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
> President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show us
> their military records.

then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?

>
> <Crickets>
>
> Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
> military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
>
It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
in glass houses.

In article <6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> >In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> >typed:
> >
> >> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> >>> typed:
> >>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> >>>>> typed:
> >>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
> >>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
> >
> >>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
> >
> >>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
> >>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing shells.
> >
> >>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he walked his
> >>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
> >
> >>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your opinion. If
> >>>>>>> their batteries are in range of your guns, you're in range of theirs.
> >>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
> >
> >>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked with
> >>>>>>> Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people disagree with Walz,
> >>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
> >
> >>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to send
> >>>>>> his unit to Iraq....
> >
> >>>>> Cite?
> >
> >>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this summary:
> >
> >>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-service-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
> >
> >>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
> >
> >>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly, this
> >>>> isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead time prior
> >>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
> >
> >>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team
> >>> received its notification of sourcing.
> >
> >> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the unit
> >> had received any of their notifications.
> >
> >> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
> >
> >
> >> [quote]
> >> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
> >
> >> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to 2009,
> >> these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
> >
> >> May 2005: separation.
> >
> >> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
> >
> >> March 2006: deployment
> >> [/quote]
> >
> >Incomplete--
> >
> >"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.): ... And I'm
> >going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received, my
> >commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade Combat
> >Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed
> >that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time
> >period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together, and
> >let's get the process in play...."
> >
> >https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-
> >
>
> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his decision to run for
> Congress and retire from the NG.
>
> But I repeat myself.
>
> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>
He wasn't in. What did you do? Oh yea, you pussed out.

In article <lu19cjlknd4go61e25vaevuve0aindfbfi@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 21:49:08 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >
> >Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
> >
>
> Then why are your panties in such a wad about Walz only serving 24 years?
>
That isn't the issue. Him lying is.

In article <va2a2j$3drgq$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
> news:va185h$38p5l$2@dont-email.me:
>
> > In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
> > <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
> >
> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> >> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> >>> In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
> >>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
> >>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
> >>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
> >>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
> >
> >>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
> >>>>>>>>> dial 911!
> >
> >>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
> >>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
> >>>>>>>>>> shells.
> >
> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
> >>>>>>>>>> walked his retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
> >>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
> >>>>>>>>> in range of theirs. You have obviously never been around a
> >>>>>>>>> battery, either.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
> >>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
> >>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz, but most people who work with him like
> >>>>>>>>> him.
> >
> >>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
> >>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
> >
> >>>>>>> Cite?
> >
> >>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
> >>>>>> summary:
> >
> >>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
> >>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
> >
> >>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
> >
> >>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
> >>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
> >>>>>> time prior to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
> >
> >>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
> >>>>> Combat Team received its notification of sourcing.
> >
> >>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
> >>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
> >
> >>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
> >
> >
> >>>> [quote]
> >>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
> >
> >>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
> >>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
> >
> >>>> May 2005: separation.
> >
> >>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
> >
> >>>> March 2006: deployment
> >>>> [/quote]
> >
> >>> Incomplete--
> >
> >>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
> >>> ... And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what
> >>> we received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
> >>> Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification
> >>> of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed that we would be
> >>> alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period
> >>> out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
> >>> and let's get the process in play...."
> >
> >>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qu
> >>> it-and-went-over-my-
> >
> >> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> >> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.
> >
> > You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?
> >
> >> But I repeat myself.
> >
> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >
> > Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
> >
> Are Obama and Clinton yapping about someone's military experience?

Why would they? They are of no significance.

In article <va23cv$3cql0$1@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66c3db98$3$212409$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> > In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
> > huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> >> > -hh wrote:
> >> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any record
> >> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
> >> >
> >> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
> >> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
> >>
> >> Translation:
> >>
> >> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change the
> >> subject.
> >>
> >> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
> >> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
> >>
> >> [quote]
> >> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert
> >> notice.
> >> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may not
> >> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people that
> >> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for retiring, I
> >> don?t know.?
> >> [/quote]
> >>
> >> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
> >>
> >> But wait, there?s more (same source):
> >>
> >> [quote]
> >> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard
> >> have
> >> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of the
> >> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
> >> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do with
> >> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
> >> politics.
> >> [quote]
> >>
> >> Finally, one more (ibid):
> >>
> >> [quote]
> >> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
> >> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
> >> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota national
> >> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
> >> approved by leadership.?
> >> [/quote]
> >>
> >> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s claimant was
> >> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s
> >> retirement
> >> papers.
> >>
> >> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job: the
> >> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he utterly
> >> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
> >>
> >> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
> >> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a consultative
> >> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their
> >> CSM
> >> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
> >>
> >> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > He still lied.
>
> About what? When? Proof?
>
>

He said he carried an M-16 in Iraq. There were no M-16s in Iraq.

In news:va2a2j$3drgq$1@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
typed:

> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
> news:va185h$38p5l$2@dont-email.me:
>> In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>>>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>>> ... And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what
>>>> we received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
>>>> Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification
>>>> of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed that we would be
>>>> alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period
>>>> out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
>>>> and let's get the process in play...."

>>>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-

>>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
>>> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.

>> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?

>>> But I repeat myself.

>>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?

>> Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.

> Are Obama and Clinton yapping about someone's military experience?

Are Obama and Clinton yapping about a Democrat lying? Probably not.

On 8/20/2024 9:29 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> United States to Iran: You do NOT want to see our NON proportional response.

Said no one in any authority here to no one over there, ever.

Go back to sucking Zelensky's cawk, maybe buy him another winery?

https://x.com/aussiecossack/status/1820511408217620654

🚨🇺🇦🇮🇹BOMBSHELL: Zelensky just bought a €75 MILLION luxury wine
estate in Italy with your tax payer money!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzC24Yrw_I4

#Database #Italia: #Zelensky bought a winery in Italy from #Sting for 75
million euros

@JohnSmith-e8i
4 days ago
exit strategy

On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:00:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>In news:va2a2j$3drgq$1@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>typed:
>
>> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
>> news:va185h$38p5l$2@dont-email.me:
>>> In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>>>> ... And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what
>>>>> we received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
>>>>> Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification
>>>>> of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed that we would be
>>>>> alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period
>>>>> out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
>>>>> and let's get the process in play...."
>
>>>>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-
>
>>>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
>>>> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.
>
>>> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?
>
>>>> But I repeat myself.
>
>>>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>
>>> Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
>
>> Are Obama and Clinton yapping about someone's military experience?
>
>Are Obama and Clinton yapping about a Democrat lying? Probably not.
>

Why should they? The big liar in the room is Trump.

#NEVERtrump

In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
>
> >
> >
> > "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> >> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> >>>>> typed:
> >>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
> >>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> >>>>>>> typed:
> >>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
> >>>>>>>>> dial 911!
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
> >>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
> >>>>>>>>>> shells.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
> >>>>>>>>>> walked his
> >>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
> >>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
> >>>>>>>>> in range of theirs.
> >>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
> >>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
> >>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz,
> >>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
> >>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Cite?
> >>>
> >>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
> >>>>>> summary:
> >>>
> >>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
> >>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
> >>>
> >>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
> >>>
> >>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
> >>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
> >>>>>> time prior
> >>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
> >>>
> >>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
> >>>>> Combat Team
> >>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
> >>>
> >>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
> >>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
> >>>
> >>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> [quote]
> >>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
> >>>
> >>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
> >>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
> >>>
> >>>> May 2005: separation.
> >>>
> >>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
> >>>
> >>>> March 2006: deployment
> >>>> [/quote]
> >>>
> >>>Incomplete--
> >>>
> >>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
> >>>... And I'm
> >>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received,
> >>>my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division
> >>>Brigade Combat
> >>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
> >>>were informed
> >>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year
> >>>or time
> >>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
> >>>together, and
> >>>let's get the process in play...."
> >>>
> >>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qui
> >>>t-and-went-over-my-
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> >> decision to run for
> >> Congress and retire from the NG.
> >>
> >> But I repeat myself.
> >>
> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >>
> >> #NEVERtrump
> >
> > What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military?
> > What did Hillary do in the military?
> >
> > If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
> > President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show us
> > their military records.
>
> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?

Because he lied.
>
> >
> > <Crickets>
> >
> > Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
> > military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
> >
> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
> in glass houses.

Stop speaking of Trumps then.

In article <7vc9cjhkvqj15utkvdui95tqves65edph1@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:47:14 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
> >"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
> <snip>
> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >> #NEVERtrump
> >What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military? What
> >did Hillary do in the military?
> >
> >If having to perform military service is a requirement for the President, or
> >even to run for that office.. then you need to show us their military
> >records.
>
> *whoosh*
>
> ><Crickets>
> >
> >Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
> >military service.
>
> Ditto Bush and Cheney. Romney went to France.
>
> >Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
>
> He was studying for his law degree. The draft didn't take university students at that
> time.
>
> The point you're missing is that this criticism of Walz' military record, as if he was
> some kind of Benedict Arnold, is useless; it's not sticking. Counterproductive in fact,
> since it makes you guys look petty and shows you're aiming at the wrong candidate.
>
> But you guys keep using insults and negatives and personal attacks against the wrong
> Democrats. Please.
>
> United States to Iran: You do NOT want to see our NON proportional response.
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnDwoGESYxo>
>
> #NEVERtrump

There were no M-16s in Iraq.

In article <6kv9cj9qo73qnagr5lvhb71f3rc4lohsto@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:00:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> >In news:va2a2j$3drgq$1@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> >typed:
> >
> >> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
> >> news:va185h$38p5l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> In news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com, Governor Swill
> >>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
> >>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> >>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> "Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
> >>>>> ... And I'm going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what
> >>>>> we received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
> >>>>> Infantry Division Brigade Combat Team, what's called a notification
> >>>>> of sourcing, which is a NOS. We were informed that we would be
> >>>>> alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year or time period
> >>>>> out there, start preparing your team, getting your team together,
> >>>>> and let's get the process in play...."
> >
> >>>>> https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-quit-and-went-over-my-
> >
> >>>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> >>>> decision to run for Congress and retire from the NG.
> >
> >>> You think all the CMSes weren't notified by their commander?
> >
> >>>> But I repeat myself.
> >
> >>>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >
> >>> Probably the same as Obama and Clinton.
> >
> >> Are Obama and Clinton yapping about someone's military experience?
> >
> >Are Obama and Clinton yapping about a Democrat lying? Probably not.
> >
>
> Why should they? The big liar in the room is Trump.
>
> #NEVERtrump

He didn't lie about his service.

Governor Swill wrote:
> The big liar

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Rudy Canoza wrote:

I might go to some swing state that is very close in the polls, and try
to become a mole saboteur in the Trump campaign. That sound like fun!

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...adding in electoral fraud to your public death threats...

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE WELL-DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66c50926$0$2873011$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
>> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>> >> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>> >>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>> >>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>> >>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>> >>>>> typed:
>> >>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>> >>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>> >>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>> >>>>>>> typed:
>> >>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>> >>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
>> >>>>>>>>> dial 911!
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke.
>> >>>>>>>>>> No "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front
>> >>>>>>>>>> lobbing shells.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
>> >>>>>>>>>> walked his
>> >>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
>> >>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns,
>> >>>>>>>>> you're in range of theirs.
>> >>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit
>> >>>>>>>>> worked with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many
>> >>>>>>>>> people disagree with Walz,
>> >>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided
>> >>>>>>>> to send his unit to Iraq....
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>> Cite?
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
>> >>>>>> summary:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-militar
>> >>>>>> y-s ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
>> >>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of
>> >>>>>> lead time prior
>> >>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>> >>>
>> >>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>> >>>>> Combat Team
>> >>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>> >>>
>> >>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after)
>> >>>> the unit had received any of their notifications.
>> >>>
>> >>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you
>> >>>> deleted:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> [quote]
>> >>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>> >>>
>> >>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
>> >>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>> >>>
>> >>>> May 2005: separation.
>> >>>
>> >>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>> >>>
>> >>>> March 2006: deployment
>> >>>> [/quote]
>> >>>
>> >>>Incomplete--
>> >>>
>> >>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>> >>>... And I'm
>> >>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we
>> >>>received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
>> >>>Infantry Division Brigade Combat
>> >>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
>> >>>were informed
>> >>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming
>> >>>year or time
>> >>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
>> >>>together, and
>> >>>let's get the process in play...."
>> >>>
>> >>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-
>> >>>qui t-and-went-over-my-
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made
>> >> his decision to run for
>> >> Congress and retire from the NG.
>> >>
>> >> But I repeat myself.
>> >>
>> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>> >>
>> >> #NEVERtrump
>> >
>> > What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the
>> > Military? What did Hillary do in the military?
>> >
>> > If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
>> > President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show
>> > us their military records.
>>
>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>
> Because he lied.

that horse is long dead - your beating it only gets the stink on you.

>>
>> >
>> > <Crickets>
>> >
>> > Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had
>> > ZERO military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
>> >
>> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild
>> living in glass houses.
>
> Stop speaking of Trumps then.
>
Stop speaking of tRump's lies - how we going to do that when he lies non-
stop?