Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>says...
>>
>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>
>Because he lied.
>>
>> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
>> in glass houses.
>
>Stop speaking of Trumps then.

You're the botnet and a half, burnout white boy.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

In article <va3mnn$3nlja$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:66c50926$0$2873011$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> >> news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> >> >> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
> >> >>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >> >>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
> >> >>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> >> >>>>> typed:
> >> >>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
> >> >>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> >> >>>>>>> typed:
> >> >>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
> >> >>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
> >> >>>>>>>>> dial 911!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> No "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front
> >> >>>>>>>>>> lobbing shells.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
> >> >>>>>>>>>> walked his
> >> >>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
> >> >>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns,
> >> >>>>>>>>> you're in range of theirs.
> >> >>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit
> >> >>>>>>>>> worked with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many
> >> >>>>>>>>> people disagree with Walz,
> >> >>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided
> >> >>>>>>>> to send his unit to Iraq....
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>>> Cite?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
> >> >>>>>> summary:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-militar
> >> >>>>>> y-s ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
> >> >>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of
> >> >>>>>> lead time prior
> >> >>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
> >> >>>>> Combat Team
> >> >>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after)
> >> >>>> the unit had received any of their notifications.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you
> >> >>>> deleted:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> [quote]
> >> >>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
> >> >>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> May 2005: separation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> March 2006: deployment
> >> >>>> [/quote]
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Incomplete--
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
> >> >>>... And I'm
> >> >>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we
> >> >>>received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
> >> >>>Infantry Division Brigade Combat
> >> >>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
> >> >>>were informed
> >> >>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming
> >> >>>year or time
> >> >>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
> >> >>>together, and
> >> >>>let's get the process in play...."
> >> >>>
> >> >>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-
> >> >>>qui t-and-went-over-my-
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made
> >> >> his decision to run for
> >> >> Congress and retire from the NG.
> >> >>
> >> >> But I repeat myself.
> >> >>
> >> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >> >>
> >> >> #NEVERtrump
> >> >
> >> > What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the
> >> > Military? What did Hillary do in the military?
> >> >
> >> > If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
> >> > President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show
> >> > us their military records.
> >>
> >> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
> >
> > Because he lied.
>
> that horse is long dead - your beating it only gets the stink on you.

Unlike you who wants to bring up shit about Trump from years ago?
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > <Crickets>
> >> >
> >> > Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had
> >> > ZERO military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
> >> >
> >> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild
> >> living in glass houses.
> >
> > Stop speaking of Trumps then.
> >
> Stop speaking of tRump's lies - how we going to do that when he lies non-
> stop?

Tell us about Harris and liar Walz. After all they are who you are
voting for right?

In article <c4oacjl1j41r16dcp8smrnmk4ra213vcbn@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >says...
> >>
> >> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
> >
> >Because he lied.
> >>
> >> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
> >> in glass houses.
> >
> >Stop speaking of Trumps then.
>
>
> You're the botnet and a half, burnout white boy.

I made you so upset you posted that insane shit?

Joel wrote:
> You're the botnet and a half, burnout white boy.
>
> --

What does any man's skin color bear on any subject to be debated here,
bigot!

Zelenskyy: Ukrainian Forces control 92 settlements in Russia’s Kursk Oblast
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has revealed that Ukrainian Defense
Forces now control over 1,250 square kilometers of Russian territory and 92
settlements in Russia’s Kursk Oblast.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08/19/zelenskyy-ukrainian-forces-control-92-settlements-in-russias-kursk-oblast/

Russia is now cut off from western Kursk and the conscripts there can either
surrender or die because they can't be resupplied.

Ukraine Takes Down Third River Bridge, Cuts Off Russian Forces
The all-weather span across the Seym River was the last road route out of a
growing Kyiv-controlled salient in the Kursk region, but it’s not clear how many
Russian troops are now trapped.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37632

Ukraine ???? is confirmed to have destroyed the 3rd and final bridge across the
Seym River connecting Russian forces to the Glushkovsky District, Kursk

Russia can no longer bring supplies or equipment into or out of ~640km2, roughly
the area Russia took in the past year in Ukraine
https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1825410902612484413

Commander of Ukrainian Air Force Mykola Oleshchuk shared footage of the
destruction of another bridge over river Seim in the Kursk region. This has a
significant impact on enemy logistics in the bridgehead.
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1825072607051354571

Visual confirmation that the second bridge above the Seym river, Kursk region,
has been damaged beyond repair and usefulness for heavy-duty transports. Only
one intact bridge in that sector remains.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Zelenskyy: Ukrainian Forces

No one cares.

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
>
>>
>>
>> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>>>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>>>>>>> typed:
>>>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
>>>>>>>>>> dial 911!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
>>>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
>>>>>>>>>>> shells.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
>>>>>>>>>>> walked his
>>>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
>>>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
>>>>>>>>>> in range of theirs.
>>>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
>>>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
>>>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz,
>>>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
>>>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cite?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
>>>>>>> summary:
>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
>>>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>>>>
>>>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
>>>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
>>>>>>> time prior
>>>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>>>>
>>>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>>>>>> Combat Team
>>>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>>>>
>>>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
>>>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
>>>>
>>>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [quote]
>>>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>>>>
>>>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
>>>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>>>>
>>>>> May 2005: separation.
>>>>
>>>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>>>>
>>>>> March 2006: deployment
>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>
>>>>Incomplete--
>>>>
>>>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>>>... And I'm
>>>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received,
>>>>my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division
>>>>Brigade Combat
>>>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
>>>>were informed
>>>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year
>>>>or time
>>>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
>>>>together, and
>>>>let's get the process in play...."
>>>>
>>>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qui
>>>>t-and-went-over-my-
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
>>> decision to run for
>>> Congress and retire from the NG.
>>>
>>> But I repeat myself.
>>>
>>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>>>
>>> #NEVERtrump
>>
>> What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military?
>> What did Hillary do in the military?
>>
>> If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
>> President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show us
>> their military records.
>
> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?

I am not. Swill, and apparently now you, think it's somehow critical..

>
>>
>> <Crickets>
>>
>> Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
>> military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
>>
> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
> in glass houses.

Who is throwing rocks? Swill is the one attacking Walz, and you apparently
are here attempting to defend his attacks.

So, if we are going to speak of hypocrisy.. then let's talk about Swill's
hypocrisy and you're in defending it.

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:va3mnn$3nlja$2@dont-email.me...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:66c50926$0$2873011$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>> news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
>>> >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
>>> >> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
>>> >>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>> >>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
>>> >>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
>>> >>>>> typed:
>>> >>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
>>> >>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
>>> >>>>>>> typed:
>>> >>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
>>> >>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
>>> >>>>>>>>> dial 911!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> No "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front
>>> >>>>>>>>>> lobbing shells.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
>>> >>>>>>>>>> walked his
>>> >>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
>>> >>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns,
>>> >>>>>>>>> you're in range of theirs.
>>> >>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit
>>> >>>>>>>>> worked with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many
>>> >>>>>>>>> people disagree with Walz,
>>> >>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided
>>> >>>>>>>> to send his unit to Iraq....
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>>> Cite?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
>>> >>>>>> summary:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-militar
>>> >>>>>> y-s ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
>>> >>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of
>>> >>>>>> lead time prior
>>> >>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
>>> >>>>> Combat Team
>>> >>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after)
>>> >>>> the unit had received any of their notifications.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you
>>> >>>> deleted:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> [quote]
>>> >>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
>>> >>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> May 2005: separation.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> March 2006: deployment
>>> >>>> [/quote]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Incomplete--
>>> >>>
>>> >>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
>>> >>>... And I'm
>>> >>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we
>>> >>>received, my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th
>>> >>>Infantry Division Brigade Combat
>>> >>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
>>> >>>were informed
>>> >>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming
>>> >>>year or time
>>> >>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
>>> >>>together, and
>>> >>>let's get the process in play...."
>>> >>>
>>> >>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-
>>> >>>qui t-and-went-over-my-
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made
>>> >> his decision to run for
>>> >> Congress and retire from the NG.
>>> >>
>>> >> But I repeat myself.
>>> >>
>>> >> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
>>> >>
>>> >> #NEVERtrump
>>> >
>>> > What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the
>>> > Military? What did Hillary do in the military?
>>> >
>>> > If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
>>> > President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show
>>> > us their military records.
>>>
>>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>>
>> Because he lied.
>
> that horse is long dead - your beating it only gets the stink on you.
>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > <Crickets>
>>> >
>>> > Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had
>>> > ZERO military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
>>> >
>>> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild
>>> living in glass houses.
>>
>> Stop speaking of Trumps then.
>>
> Stop speaking of tRump's lies - how we going to do that when he lies non-
> stop?

The same as we do with Biden, Kamala, Pelosi, Schiff and other politicians?

I mean if that's your standard.. then you have a lot of other Democrats and
politicians to hold to that standard......

Ah, but I forget.. your standards are only for OTHER people.. not yourself.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c4oacjl1j41r16dcp8smrnmk4ra213vcbn@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>says...
>>>
>>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>>
>>Because he lied.
>>>
>>> It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild
>>> living
>>> in glass houses.
>>
>>Stop speaking of Trumps then.
>
>
> You're the botnet and a half, burnout white boy.

Talking to yourself now?

In article <va7dl4$eoc4$1@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:va2aa0$3drgq$3@dont-email.me...
> > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> > news:va23d1$3cql0$2@dont-email.me:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6l18cj9b0107la44n5rlct3t1qh6j6ojqh@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:40:33 -0700, "max headroom"
> >>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>In news:v9vrkd$2u12h$2@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>>><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> typed:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 8/16/24 1:42 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>>> In news:v9klik$u3a9$1@dont-email.me, -hh
> >>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
> >>>>>> typed:
> >>>>>>> On 8/15/24 1:40 AM, max headroom wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In news:v9jq1b$qa9g$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
> >>>>>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> >>>>>>>> typed:
> >>>>>>>>> "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>> news:gglqbjduadlsnnicrb7b38ik821hiu9or3@4ax.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and
> >>>>>>>>>> dial 911!
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This guy was a "Redleg" meaning he was an artillery puke. No
> >>>>>>>>>>> "fighting", bivouacked 5 to 10 miles from the front lobbing
> >>>>>>>>>>> shells.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> As soon as he found out his unit was heading for Iraq, he
> >>>>>>>>>>> walked his
> >>>>>>>>>>> retirement papers up the chain and skedaddled.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If that's what you think, then you're entitled to your
> >>>>>>>>>> opinion. If their batteries are in range of your guns, you're
> >>>>>>>>>> in range of theirs.
> >>>>>>>>>> You have obviously never been around a battery, either.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I dunno much about Tim Walz, but the only way that shit worked
> >>>>>>>>>> with Kerry was because he was an asshole. Many people
> >>>>>>>>>> disagree with Walz,
> >>>>>>>>>> but most people who work with him like him.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Walz put his retirement papers in months before they decided to
> >>>>>>>>> send his unit to Iraq....
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cite?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Where have you been? Its been all over the news, such as this
> >>>>>>> summary:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/08/12/tim-walz-military-s
> >>>>>>> ervice-under-attack-trump-campaign-here-are-facts.html
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Basic timeline is as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> (prior to Feb 2005): retirement papers submitted. Reportedly,
> >>>>>>> this isn't a 'drop of the hat' thing, requiring ~6 months of lead
> >>>>>>> time prior
> >>>>>>> to separation (which would make it ~December 2004).
> >>>>
> >>>>>> So shortly after the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division Brigade
> >>>>>> Combat Team
> >>>>>> received its notification of sourcing.
> >>>>
> >>>>> No, his retirement papers were submitted _before_ (not after) the
> >>>>> unit had received any of their notifications.
> >>>>
> >>>>> This is explicitly clear in the part of my post that you deleted:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> [quote]
> >>>>> Feb 2005: filed application to run for office.
> >>>>
> >>>>> March 2005: unit received "within 2 years" notice. FYI, prior to
> >>>>> 2009, these notices weren't reliable on leadtime.
> >>>>
> >>>>> May 2005: separation.
> >>>>
> >>>>> July 2005: actual deployment orders for his old unit
> >>>>
> >>>>> March 2006: deployment
> >>>>> [/quote]
> >>>>
> >>>>Incomplete--
> >>>>
> >>>>"Minnesota National Guard Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin(ret.):
> >>>>... And I'm
> >>>>going to kind of start back in the fall of 2004, is what we received,
> >>>>my commander and myself, of the 1st Brigade 34th Infantry Division
> >>>>Brigade Combat
> >>>>Team, what's called a notification of sourcing, which is a NOS. We
> >>>>were informed
> >>>>that we would be alerted to go to Iraq within the next upcoming year
> >>>>or time
> >>>>period out there, start preparing your team, getting your team
> >>>>together, and
> >>>>let's get the process in play...."
> >>>>
> >>>>https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-superior-he-qui
> >>>>t-and-went-over-my-
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yet they weren't alerted, were they? Not until after he had made his
> >>> decision to run for
> >>> Congress and retire from the NG.
> >>>
> >>> But I repeat myself.
> >>>
> >>> What did Trump do when he was in the military?
> >>>
> >>> #NEVERtrump
> >>
> >> What did Biden do in the Military? What did Kamala do in the Military?
> >> What did Hillary do in the military?
> >>
> >> If having to perform military service is a requirement for the
> >> President, or even to run for that office.. then you need to show us
> >> their military records.
> >
> > then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>
> I am not. Swill, and apparently now you, think it's somehow critical..

Swill is just a Rudy clone. He's trolling and has no real agenda.
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> <Crickets>
> >>
> >> Because as far as I can see, the last 3 Democrat nominations had ZERO
> >> military service. Joe looks like he even dodged the draft..
> >>
> > It's the hypocracy, stupid. You assholes are throwing rocks whild living
> > in glass houses.
>
> Who is throwing rocks? Swill is the one attacking Walz, and you apparently
> are here attempting to defend his attacks.
>
> So, if we are going to speak of hypocrisy.. then let's talk about Swill's
> hypocrisy and you're in defending it.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/21/economy/bls-jobs-revisions/index.html
>

"Lil dwarf Rudey" <dumbasastump@invalid.org> wrote in message
news:va2cqo$3e6pn$47@dont-email.me...
> Governor Swill wrote:
>> keep using insults and negatives and personal attacks
>
>
>
> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-unveils-118-billion-bipartisan-bill-tighten-border-security-aid-2024-02-04/
>
> The U.S. Senate on Sunday unveiled a $118 billion bipartisan border
> security bill that would also provide aid to Ukraine and Israel, but it
> promptly slammed into opposition from the House of Representatives.
>
> In addition to $20.23 billion for border security, the bill included
> $60.06 billion to support Ukraine in its war with Russia, $14.1 billion in
> security assistance for Israel, $2.44 billion to U.S. Central Command and
> the conflict in the Red Sea, and $4.83 billion to support U.S. partners in
> the Indo-Pacific facing aggression from China, according to figures from
> Senator Patty Murray, who chairs the Senate's Appropriation Committee.
> An additional $10 billion would provide humanitarian assistance for
> civilians in conflict zones including in Ukraine, Gaza and the West Bank,
> although the bill includes a provision barring its funds from going to the
> U.N. agency for Palestinians, UNRWA.
>
> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/5/us-senate-unveils-118bn-deal-on-border-aid-for-israel-and-ukraine
>
> The United States Senate has unveiled a $118bn bipartisan deal that would
> boost border security and provide wartime aid for Israel and Ukraine.

So to be clear.. Rudy thinks we should send $118 Billion dollars.. just so
that a mere $20.23 Billion (17% ) gets spent here in America where it will
actually help Americans?

Meanwhile, American families struggle to make ends meet with increasing
taxation, inflation and stagnant wages.

How about we pass the $20.23 billion in a clean bill and leave out the pork?

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c4ade0$0$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <va23cv$3cql0$1@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:66c3db98$3$212409$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> > In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
>> > huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>> >>
>> >> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>> >> > -hh wrote:
>> >> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any
>> >> >> record
>> >> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
>> >> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>> >>
>> >> Translation:
>> >>
>> >> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change the
>> >> subject.
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
>> >> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>> >>
>> >> [quote]
>> >> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert
>> >> notice.
>> >> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may
>> >> not
>> >> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people
>> >> that
>> >> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for
>> >> retiring, I
>> >> don?t know.?
>> >> [/quote]
>> >>
>> >> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
>> >>
>> >> But wait, there?s more (same source):
>> >>
>> >> [quote]
>> >> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard
>> >> have
>> >> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of
>> >> the
>> >> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
>> >> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do
>> >> with
>> >> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
>> >> politics.
>> >> [quote]
>> >>
>> >> Finally, one more (ibid):
>> >>
>> >> [quote]
>> >> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
>> >> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
>> >> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota
>> >> national
>> >> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
>> >> approved by leadership.?
>> >> [/quote]
>> >>
>> >> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s claimant
>> >> was
>> >> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s
>> >> retirement
>> >> papers.
>> >>
>> >> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job:
>> >> the
>> >> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he
>> >> utterly
>> >> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
>> >>
>> >> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
>> >> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a
>> >> consultative
>> >> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their
>> >> CSM
>> >> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
>> >>
>> >> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
>> >>
>> >> -hh
>> >
>> > He still lied.
>>
>> About what? When? Proof?
>>
>>
>
> He said he carried an M-16 in Iraq. There were no M-16s in Iraq.

Actually at the start of the conflict the M16A2 was pretty much standard
issue, and was only replaced later with the M4/M4A which is just an M16 with
a shorter and then made later a heavier short barrel.

So, yea, I think some ground pounder in Iraq could easily say they carried
an M16 during that conflict and it would be totally truthful.

Certainly gun grabbing Democrats would never be able to tell the difference.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:30:19 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>news:66c4ade0$0$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> In article <va23cv$3cql0$1@dont-email.me>,
>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>
>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:66c3db98$3$212409$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> > In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
>>> > huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>> >>
>>> >> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>> >> > -hh wrote:
>>> >> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any
>>> >> >> record
>>> >> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
>>> >> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>>> >>
>>> >> Translation:
>>> >>
>>> >> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change the
>>> >> subject.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
>>> >> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>>> >>
>>> >> [quote]
>>> >> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert
>>> >> notice.
>>> >> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may
>>> >> not
>>> >> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people
>>> >> that
>>> >> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for
>>> >> retiring, I
>>> >> don?t know.?
>>> >> [/quote]
>>> >>
>>> >> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
>>> >>
>>> >> But wait, there?s more (same source):
>>> >>
>>> >> [quote]
>>> >> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national guard
>>> >> have
>>> >> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of
>>> >> the
>>> >> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social media
>>> >> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do
>>> >> with
>>> >> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
>>> >> politics.
>>> >> [quote]
>>> >>
>>> >> Finally, one more (ibid):
>>> >>
>>> >> [quote]
>>> >> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a
>>> >> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
>>> >> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota
>>> >> national
>>> >> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
>>> >> approved by leadership.?
>>> >> [/quote]
>>> >>
>>> >> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s claimant
>>> >> was
>>> >> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s
>>> >> retirement
>>> >> papers.
>>> >>
>>> >> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job:
>>> >> the
>>> >> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he
>>> >> utterly
>>> >> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
>>> >>
>>> >> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as a
>>> >> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a
>>> >> consultative
>>> >> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what their
>>> >> CSM
>>> >> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
>>> >>
>>> >> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
>>> >>
>>> >> -hh
>>> >
>>> > He still lied.
>>>
>>> About what? When? Proof?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> He said he carried an M-16 in Iraq. There were no M-16s in Iraq.
>
>Actually at the start of the conflict the M16A2 was pretty much standard
>issue, and was only replaced later with the M4/M4A which is just an M16 with
>a shorter and then made later a heavier short barrel.
>
>So, yea, I think some ground pounder in Iraq could easily say they carried
>an M16 during that conflict and it would be totally truthful.
>
>Certainly gun grabbing Democrats would never be able to tell the difference.
>

You may have missed the challenge to Skeeter's claim.

Walz never claimed to have carried an M16.

--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 10:04:50 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>The same as we do with Biden, Kamala, Pelosi, Schiff and other politicians?

Political lies are easy to filter, easy to spot. But Trump lies all the time.
He'll go out of his way just because he thought of a good whopper to tell.

He takes lying to a whole new level to the point where his word can't be
trusted.

We won't have to deal with him too much longer.
--
#NEVERtrump

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:57:59 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>
>I am not. Swill, and apparently now you, think it's somehow critical..

It is to the MAGAs. They've been going on endlessly about it though the don't
seem to keen to discuss five times draft dodging Cadet Bonespurs.

--
#NEVERtrump

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6pjecjdvng9f0bp068c0phb142670su0pg@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:30:19 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:66c4ade0$0$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> In article <va23cv$3cql0$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:66c3db98$3$212409$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>> > In article <1089214640.745802856.044434.recscuba_google-
>>>> > huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>>> >> > -hh wrote:
>>>> >> >> Gosh, isn't it odd how neither DA nor MN National Guard has any
>>>> >> >> record
>>>> >> >> of a "fall 2004" notification.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Gosh isn't this whole exercise in his spotty military record a
>>>> >> > distraction from his ardent and totalitarian fascism:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Translation:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You can?t substantiate your claim, so you?re trying now to change
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> subject.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In the meantime, another MN NG member has commented that they hadn?t
>>>> >> received orders as of early 2005, contradicting your claim:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [quote]
>>>> >> ??Bonnifield said. ?At the time he retired, we hadn?t gotten alert
>>>> >> notice.
>>>> >> We had no notice other than ?this could happen.? It could have, may
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> have. So when he made the decision, there were a lot of other people
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> did at the same time, and why everyone was picking on him for
>>>> >> retiring, I
>>>> >> don?t know.?
>>>> >> [/quote]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/walz-military-record-service>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But wait, there?s more (same source):
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [quote]
>>>> >> ?All these people that are connected with the Minnesota national
>>>> >> guard
>>>> >> have
>>>> >> an ax to grind,? [retired SGM Mike] Lavigne said, noting how two of
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> people who have been critical of Walz from the unit have social
>>>> >> media
>>>> >> accounts dripping with rightwing invective. ?It?s got nothing to do
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> army service. It?s got nothing to do with the army values. It?s all
>>>> >> politics.
>>>> >> [quote]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Finally, one more (ibid):
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [quote]
>>>> >> ?When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted
>>>> >> contractual agreement,? said Army Col Scott Rohweder, Minnesota
>>>> >> national
>>>> >> guard?s joint chief of staff. ?Their request is reviewed and must be
>>>> >> approved by leadership.?
>>>> >> [/quote]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mentioning this one because part of the butthurt from Chip?s
>>>> >> claimant
>>>> >> was
>>>> >> from a CSM who?s trying to claim that *he* didn?t approve Walz?s
>>>> >> retirement
>>>> >> papers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Problem that that CSM has is that he doesn?t know his own damn job:
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> CSM is not directly a part of the chain of command. As such, he
>>>> >> utterly
>>>> >> lacks the authority he thinks he had to ?approve? the action.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The CSM in the NCO Support Channel, not Chain of Command, serving as
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> facilitator and advocate for the Enlisted in effectively a
>>>> >> consultative
>>>> >> role to the Commander. Good Commanders listen carefully to what
>>>> >> their
>>>> >> CSM
>>>> >> says, but he is not under any obligation to follow said advice.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <https://www.armystudyguide.com/content/Prep_For_Basic_Training/Prep_for_basic_general_information/chain-of-command-nco-supp.shtml>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -hh
>>>> >
>>>> > He still lied.
>>>>
>>>> About what? When? Proof?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> He said he carried an M-16 in Iraq. There were no M-16s in Iraq.
>>
>>Actually at the start of the conflict the M16A2 was pretty much standard
>>issue, and was only replaced later with the M4/M4A which is just an M16
>>with
>>a shorter and then made later a heavier short barrel.
>>
>>So, yea, I think some ground pounder in Iraq could easily say they carried
>>an M16 during that conflict and it would be totally truthful.
>>
>>Certainly gun grabbing Democrats would never be able to tell the
>>difference.
>>
>
> You may have missed the challenge to Skeeter's claim.
>
> Walz never claimed to have carried an M16.

And just like that, Rudy attempts to revise Usenet history....

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:lrjecjh37ga040e5pp3rgk59ts1gbrum2r@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 10:04:50 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>The same as we do with Biden, Kamala, Pelosi, Schiff and other
>>politicians?
>
> Political lies are easy to filter, easy to spot.

Unlike yours?

Meanwhile, I acknowledge your inability to answer my question and instead
your lame attempts to change the subject

>But Trump lies all the time.

Unlike other politicians, particularly those named above?

>He'll go out of his way just because he thought of a good whopper to tell.

Unlike other politicians, particularly those named above?

Meanwhile, what do we have to support your contention Trump tells such
lies..... the assertion of the biggest liar on Usenet.

That would be you Rudy, in case you didn't realize it.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b5kecj14s9ule23cj0dnkmdan6vbumdujg@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:57:59 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>> then why are you yapping about Walz's military service?
>>
>>I am not. Swill, and apparently now you, think it's somehow critical..
>
> It is to the MAGAs. They've been going on endlessly about it though the
> don't
> seem to keen to discuss five times draft dodging Cadet Bonespurs.

Do you mean Joe Biden? I thought it was for his mythical asthma....
You know the Lifeguard/Football player?

Add how you made no mention of this during Biden's campaigns...

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tapecjt1gfafc92tffa25cl2kncch7ir82@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:20:47 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
>
>>> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/5/us-senate-unveils-118bn-deal-on-border-aid-for-israel-and-ukraine
>>>
>>> The United States Senate has unveiled a $118bn bipartisan deal that
>>> would
>>> boost border security and provide wartime aid for Israel and Ukraine.
>>
>>So to be clear.. Rudy thinks we should send $118 Billion dollars.. just so
>>that a mere $20.23 Billion (17% ) gets spent here in America where it will
>>actually help Americans?
>
> The vast majority of that money will never leave the country.

So you claim.. but let's assume that's true.. what they buy with that money
certainly will....

> It gets deposited
> into American banks and ends up back here anyway.

Unsupported assertions.

> It's tied to buying arms from
> US manufacturers thereby creating US jobs.

If they were buying NEW.. maybe, but somehow I bet the overwhelming bulk of
it will create no new jobs. heck with that kind of money they could hire
those workers to produce something American's actually need.

> How long do you think it would take Iran to own Israel if we cut them off?

Probably pretty long.. the Israel, might just have to stop playing softball
and get serious about wiping out Hamas and those that shelter such
terrorists.

> Where do you think Putin would attack Europe next if we don't stop his
> imperial
> ambitions in Ukraine?

Then let Europe pay for it.. I mean they are the ones that benefit from it.
Why should we have to foot the bill?

We are now one of the most indebted nations in the world given our national
debt to GDP ratio.

So I ask, when does this endless borrowing and mounting debt become an issue
that needs to be addressed?

That's going to do far more harm than anything Putin could do.

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

I'm not speaking from personal knowledge because *I* didn't retire
from the military; however, it is my understanding that one submits a
*request* to retire that may either be approved or denied by the
command.

Methinks y'all are wasting your time with the "swift-boat" crap. That
worked with Kerry because he took an oblique swipe at Bush's service
(such as it was) in the Alabama Air National Guard and touted his own
medals (which he had thrown away in front of a national TV camera crew
a few years earlier.) Kerry was *not* a favorite of the Vietnam
Veterans!

Today, the Donald was an *obvious* draft dodger during the Vietnam War
and Walz has never touted any specific heroics... you're wasting your
time. You won't find a great audiance willing to hit their "like"
buttons because Walz is well respected in military circles... *most*
will tend to vote for him.

X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> Donald was an*obvious* draft dodger during the Vietnam War

Dumbass old hippy burnout, no one today gives a fuck.

In news:q25fcjdokubeke0gp89bf8mddk4ngf4sae@4ax.com, X, formerly known as
"!Jones" <x@y.com> typed:

> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

> I'm not speaking from personal knowledge because *I* didn't retire
> from the military; however, it is my understanding that one submits a
> *request* to retire that may either be approved or denied by the
> command.

> Methinks y'all are wasting your time with the "swift-boat" crap. That
> worked with Kerry because he took an oblique swipe at Bush's service
> (such as it was) in the Alabama Air National Guard and touted his own
> medals (which he had thrown away in front of a national TV camera crew
> a few years earlier.) Kerry was *not* a favorite of the Vietnam
> Veterans!

> Today, the Donald was an *obvious* draft dodger during the Vietnam War
> and Walz has never touted any specific heroics... you're wasting your
> time. You won't find a great audiance willing to hit their "like"
> buttons because Walz is well respected in military circles... *most*
> will tend to vote for him...

.... Jones claims, without a shred of evidence.

In news:6pjecjdvng9f0bp068c0phb142670su0pg@4ax.com, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:30:19 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>> So, yea, I think some ground pounder in Iraq could easily say they carried
>> an M16 during that conflict and it would be totally truthful.

>> Certainly gun grabbing Democrats would never be able to tell the difference.

> You may have missed the challenge to Skeeter's claim.

> Walz never claimed to have carried an M16.

He claimed it was an AR15, didn't he?

In article <va8c22$j60a$4@dont-email.me>, maximusheadroom@gmx.com
says...
>
> In news:6pjecjdvng9f0bp068c0phb142670su0pg@4ax.com, Governor Swill
> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
>
> > On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:30:19 -0500, "Scout"
> > <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >> So, yea, I think some ground pounder in Iraq could easily say they carried
> >> an M16 during that conflict and it would be totally truthful.
>
> >> Certainly gun grabbing Democrats would never be able to tell the difference.
>
> > You may have missed the challenge to Skeeter's claim.
>
> > Walz never claimed to have carried an M16.
>
> He claimed it was an AR15, didn't he?

He never carried a weapon in combat. He was never in combat.