Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>>>
>>>>> That proves nothing.
>>>>
>>>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>>> quirks.
>>>
>>> LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>
>>> The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just
>>> out of puberty.
>>
>> I'll be 48 in March.
>
>Then you're a case of arrested development.

Far from it. But I certainly don't have an ageist perspective, where
I'm so much better than the kiddies today, every generation does that
garbage, acting like they were the final stage of evolution and those
who came later are just pitiful creatures, as they say, "OK, boomer".

>>> Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.
>>>
>>> The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
>>> take up screen real estate at all times.
>>>
>>> The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking
>>> LESS real estate.
>>>
>>> You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to make.
>>>
>>> Neither is more "quirky".
>>
>> No, you're wrong, it is quirky, it's retarded even. Apple is
>> goofware.
>And yet beyond "it doesn't work the way I think it should work", you
>can't articulate a single way it's "quirky".

You articulated it, what's this swiping crap? Why do I need to learn
this quirky maneuver, to use their stupid phone? Fuck Apple.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>>> quirks.
>>>
>>> So tell me this:
>>>
>>> Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>>>
>>> ...since Android 9 in 2018...
>>>
>>> ...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?
>>
>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>
>You are ignorant about so much it would seem...

The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-29 16:59, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That proves nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>>>> quirks.
>>>>
>>>> LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>
>>>> The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just
>>>> out of puberty.
>>>
>>> I'll be 48 in March.
>>
>> Then you're a case of arrested development.
>
>
> Far from it. But I certainly don't have an ageist perspective, where
> I'm so much better than the kiddies today, every generation does that
> garbage, acting like they were the final stage of evolution and those
> who came later are just pitiful creatures, as they say, "OK, boomer".
>
>
>>>> Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.
>>>>
>>>> The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
>>>> take up screen real estate at all times.
>>>>
>>>> The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking
>>>> LESS real estate.
>>>>
>>>> You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to make.
>>>>
>>>> Neither is more "quirky".
>>>
>>> No, you're wrong, it is quirky, it's retarded even. Apple is
>>> goofware.
>> And yet beyond "it doesn't work the way I think it should work", you
>> can't articulate a single way it's "quirky".
>
>
> You articulated it, what's this swiping crap? Why do I need to learn
> this quirky maneuver, to use their stupid phone? Fuck Apple.
I can see why you want to avoid learning.

On 2024-12-29 17:00, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>>>> quirks.
>>>>
>>>> So tell me this:
>>>>
>>>> Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>>>>
>>>> ...since Android 9 in 2018...
>>>>
>>>> ...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>
>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>
>
> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
So you admit ignorance of it...

....but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.

Do you see the disconnect there?

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>
>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>
>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>So you admit ignorance of it...
>
>...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>
>Do you see the disconnect there?

What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
owned.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-29 18:46, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>>
>>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>>
>>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>> So you admit ignorance of it...
>>
>> ...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>>
>> Do you see the disconnect there?
>
>
> What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
> owned.
What you actually mean is "Wah! This isn't exactly the same was what I'm
used to and I don't want to learn new things!"

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>>>
>>>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>>> So you admit ignorance of it...
>>>
>>> ...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>>>
>>> Do you see the disconnect there?
>>
>> What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
>> owned.
>What you actually mean is "Wah! This isn't exactly the same was what I'm
>used to and I don't want to learn new things!"

Not really, no, I just want things to be designed logically.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-29 19:09, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>>>>
>>>>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>>>> So you admit ignorance of it...
>>>>
>>>> ...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>>>>
>>>> Do you see the disconnect there?
>>>
>>> What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
>>> owned.
>> What you actually mean is "Wah! This isn't exactly the same was what I'm
>> used to and I don't want to learn new things!"
>
>
> Not really, no, I just want things to be designed logically.
Where "logically" is defined as: "What I know already"

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>>>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>>>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>>>>> So you admit ignorance of it...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see the disconnect there?
>>>>
>>>> What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
>>>> owned.
>>> What you actually mean is "Wah! This isn't exactly the same was what I'm
>>> used to and I don't want to learn new things!"
>>
>> Not really, no, I just want things to be designed logically.
>Where "logically" is defined as: "What I know already"

Incorrect, it's defined as what *normal* people find intuitive, as
opposed to Apple finding some niche among right-brained weirdoes.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-29 19:27, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>>>>>>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>>>>>>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.
>>>>>> So you admit ignorance of it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but still feel you can pronounce on how well it works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you see the disconnect there?
>>>>>
>>>>> What little I saw of the iPhone was even worse than the MacBook I
>>>>> owned.
>>>> What you actually mean is "Wah! This isn't exactly the same was what I'm
>>>> used to and I don't want to learn new things!"
>>>
>>> Not really, no, I just want things to be designed logically.
>> Where "logically" is defined as: "What I know already"
>
>
> Incorrect, it's defined as what *normal* people find intuitive, as
> opposed to Apple finding some niche among right-brained weirdoes.
>

Literally millions upon millions of people have no trouble at all using
a more gesture-based interface on iPhones AND Android phones, loser.

All you're showing off is your bigotry and closed-mindedness.

Joel wrote:
> I'll be 48 in March.
>
>
It's about time for you to find a job, you lazy mooch
on society.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>What...
>>
>>...IN SPECIFIC...
>>
>>...is supposed to "suck" about iPhones?
>
>
> I can't stand them. Apple is just inferior to Samsung.

Well given your irrational and unsupportable bias we could hardly expect
anything else from you to matter how great they might be in actuality.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> What...
>>>>
>>>> ...IN SPECIFIC...
>>>>
>>>> ...is supposed to "suck" about iPhones?
>>>
>>> I can't stand them. Apple is just inferior to Samsung.
>>
>>You not "stand[ing] them" is not an objective standard.
>>
>>In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone of
>>choice?
>
>
> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.

And how exactly is it "impossible to work with" and in what specific ways is
it "not intuitive"

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>
>>>> In what...
>>>>
>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>
>>>> ...way?
>>>
>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>
>>If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>>to work with"...
>>
>>...you have nothing.
>>
>>But let's address what little you have.
>>
>>In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>
>
> Read my previous post again.

IOW, even Joel doesn't know what he's trying to say.. just that vague waving
of the hands in the air while saying something like 'it sucks'.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung
>>>>>>>> phone of
>>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In what...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...way?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>>>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>>>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>>>> to work with"...
>>>>
>>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>>
>>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>>
>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>
>>> Read my previous post again.
>>
>>Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>
>>Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>
>
> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
> dictionary, teach'.

Really? What you mean is always in the dictionary?

That's a joke.

> To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
> have no route back to it".

Which isn't what he is asking about.

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
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> On 2024-12-28 19:07, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung
>>>>>>>>> phone of
>>>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In what...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>>>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively.
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and
>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is
>>>>> impossible
>>>>> to work with"...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>>>
>>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>>
>>>> Read my previous post again.
>>>
>>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>>
>>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>>
>>
>> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
>> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
>> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
>> have no route back to it".
>>
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> iOS device with a home button:
>
> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
> previous app.
>
> iOS device without a home button:
>
> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>
> ...and then flick to your app.
>
> How do you do it on Android?
>
> :-)

Well, first for a 1 he holds out 1 finger.. then for 2 holds out 2 fingers..
then he tries to count the number of fingers he has and finds the answer to
1+ 2 = 8

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>>
>>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>>>> previous app.
>>>>
>>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>>
>>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>>
>>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>>
>>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>>
>>So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>>
>>Got it.
>
>
> If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
> it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
> Apple forcing crapware on its victims.

Joel admits to his inability to learn. One can only wonder that he manages a
computer as that is something you need to "learn" how to use...

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> previous app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>>>>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>>>>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>>>>
>>>> So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
>>> it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
>>> Apple forcing crapware on its victims.
>>Are you seriously claiming you didn't have to "*learn*" how to use your
>>Samsung phone, doofus?
>>
>>You just intuited how to switch between open applications?
>>
>>I find that highly unlikely.
>
>
> There's more than just the lame home button, is the thing.

The thing? The thing? Oh, the thing you don't have.. intelligence.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>on your Samsung phone.
>
>
> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up.

3 buttons? How did you know to push the button.. and which button are you
suppose to push?

I mean if it's intuitive.. then how exactly did you gain the knowledge to
push that particular button?

>Very
> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
> they're too proud of being quirky.

And isn't it amazing how much they come up with that ends up being copied by
everyone else.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating
>>>>>> dial"
>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>
>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very
>>>> smooth.
>>>>
>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>
>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>
>>Both need to be learned.
>
>
> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.

Joel admits that the whole finger swipe thing is something he can't handle..
Makes you wonder how he manages a touch screen.
Oh, that's right.. he uses on the buttons. So no texting for him.

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
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> On 2024-12-29 11:47, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating
>>>>>>> dial"
>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up.
>>>>>> Very
>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>
>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very
>>>>> smooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>
>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>
>>> Both need to be learned.
>>
>>
>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>
>
> YOU get lost, loser.
>
> That proves nothing.

Well shows he's an idiot, can't read directions, and/or can't follow
directions.

Once can only marvel at the miracle that he managed to put a PC together
just through intuition.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating
>>>>>>>> dial"
>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up.
>>>>>>> Very
>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very
>>>>>> smooth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>
>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>
>>YOU get lost, loser.
>>
>>That proves nothing.
>
>
> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
> quirks.

I would think the opposite.

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
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> On 2024-12-29 12:22, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating
>>>>>>>>> dial"
>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up.
>>>>>>>> Very
>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very
>>>>>>> smooth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>
>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>
>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>
>>> That proves nothing.
>>
>>
>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>> quirks.
>>
>
> LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>
> The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just out
> of puberty.

Well mentally anyway.....

> Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.
>
> The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
> take up screen real estate at all times.
>
> The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking LESS
> real estate.
>
> You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to
> make.
>
> Neither is more "quirky".

You assume Joel is capable of learning. Apparently he only goes by
intuition...

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating
>>>>>>>>>> dial"
>>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up.
>>>>>>>>> Very
>>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right.
>>>>>>>> Very smooth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>>
>>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>>
>>>> That proves nothing.
>>>
>>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>> quirks.
>>
>>So tell me this:
>>
>>Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>>
>>...since Android 9 in 2018...
>>
>>...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?
>
>
> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.

head to head.. and if Apple is so bad.. why does it take the BEST of the
Android to even get close to Apple?

I mean if Apple were so bad.. why are all the Androids trying to become as
good?

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>>>> quirks.
>>>>
>>>> So tell me this:
>>>>
>>>> Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>>>>
>>>> ...since Android 9 in 2018...
>>>>
>>>> ...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
>>> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
>>> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>>
>>You are ignorant about so much it would seem...
>
>
> The more ignorant I am of Apple crapware, the better.

So you feel your admitted ignorance should be a valid basis for your
attitude towards Apple products and their performance?

Well Joel just destroyed any sort of creditability he might have had when it
comes to any evaluation of Apple.