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Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Joel
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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone of
>>>>> choice?
>>>>
>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>
>>> In what...
>>>
>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>
>>> ...way?
>>
>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>
>If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>to work with"...
>
>...you have nothing.
>
>But let's address what little you have.
>
>In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?

Read my previous post again.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Alan
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On 2024-12-28 17:30, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone of
>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>
>>>> In what...
>>>>
>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>
>>>> ...way?
>>>
>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>
>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>> to work with"...
>>
>> ...you have nothing.
>>
>> But let's address what little you have.
>>
>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>
>
> Read my previous post again.
>

Quote the part that you THINK is salient?

Do I need to explain what "salient" means?

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Joel
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone of
>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> In what...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...way?
>>>>
>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>>
>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>>> to work with"...
>>>
>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>
>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>
>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>
>> Read my previous post again.
>
>Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>
>Do I need to explain what "salient" means?

If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
have no route back to it".

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

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abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-28 19:07, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your Samsung phone of
>>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In what...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...way?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app
>>>>> and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask intuitively. Maybe
>>>>> right-brained people are just oriented toward this bullshit, and Apple
>>>>> happily sucks up their money, but normal people like the Galaxy S.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is impossible
>>>> to work with"...
>>>>
>>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>>
>>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>>
>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>
>>> Read my previous post again.
>>
>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>
>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>
>
> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
> have no route back to it".
>

Hmmmm...

iOS device with a home button:

Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
previous app.

iOS device without a home button:

Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...

....and then flick to your app.

How do you do it on Android?

:-)

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>>
>>>> Read my previous post again.
>>>
>>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>>
>>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>>
>> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
>> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
>> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
>> have no route back to it".
>
>Hmmmm...
>
>iOS device with a home button:
>
>Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>previous app.
>
>iOS device without a home button:
>
>Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>
>...and then flick to your app.
>
>How do you do it on Android?
>
>:-)

I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
running, easily navigating and multitasking.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-28 19:48, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Read my previous post again.
>>>>
>>>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>>>
>>> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
>>> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
>>> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
>>> have no route back to it".
>>
>> Hmmmm...
>>
>> iOS device with a home button:
>>
>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>> previous app.
>>
>> iOS device without a home button:
>>
>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>
>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>
>> How do you do it on Android?
>>
>> :-)
>
>
> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>

So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.

Got it.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>
>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>>> previous app.
>>>
>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>
>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>
>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>
>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>
>So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>
>Got it.

If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
Apple forcing crapware on its victims.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

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abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

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Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-28 20:04, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>>
>>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>>>> previous app.
>>>>
>>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>>
>>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>>
>>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>>
>>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>>
>> So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>>
>> Got it.
>
>
> If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
> it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
> Apple forcing crapware on its victims.
Are you seriously claiming you didn't have to "*learn*" how to use your
Samsung phone, doofus?

You just intuited how to switch between open applications?

I find that highly unlikely.

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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>>>
>>>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>>>>> previous app.
>>>>>
>>>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>>>
>>>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>>>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>>>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>>>
>>> So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>> If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
>> it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
>> Apple forcing crapware on its victims.
>Are you seriously claiming you didn't have to "*learn*" how to use your
>Samsung phone, doofus?
>
>You just intuited how to switch between open applications?
>
>I find that highly unlikely.

There's more than just the lame home button, is the thing.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 28 Dec 2024, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> posted some
news:vkqgem$p84i$1@dont-email.me:

> On 2024-12-28 19:07, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your
>>>>>>>>> Samsung phone of choice?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In what...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an
>>>>>> app and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask
>>>>>> intuitively. Maybe right-brained people are just oriented toward
>>>>>> this bullshit, and Apple happily sucks up their money, but normal
>>>>>> people like the Galaxy S.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is
>>>>> impossible to work with"...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>>>
>>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>>
>>>> Read my previous post again.
>>>
>>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>>
>>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>>
>>
>> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
>> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
>> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
>> have no route back to it".
>>
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> iOS device with a home button:
>
> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to
> your previous app.
>
> iOS device without a home button:
>
> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>
> ...and then flick to your app.
>
> How do you do it on Android?
>
>:-)

Android, tap the button on the lower left, scroll through the running apps
left or right. Tap the app you want or tap close all.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen iPhone users frantically swiping
through their devices in airports or asking for help from someone next to
them.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Alan
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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On 2024-12-28 20:25, Petry F. wrote:
> On 28 Dec 2024, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> posted some
> news:vkqgem$p84i$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 2024-12-28 19:07, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In what OBJECTIVE criteria is an iPhone worse than your
>>>>>>>>>> Samsung phone of choice?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The user interface is impossible to work with, not intuitive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In what...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...OBJECTIVE...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an
>>>>>>> app and have no route back to it, it doesn't multitask
>>>>>>> intuitively. Maybe right-brained people are just oriented toward
>>>>>>> this bullshit, and Apple happily sucks up their money, but normal
>>>>>>> people like the Galaxy S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have no objective way in which "the user interface is
>>>>>> impossible to work with"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...you have nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But let's address what little you have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In what way does iOS not "multitask intuitively"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Read my previous post again.
>>>>
>>>> Quote the part that you THINK is salient?
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to explain what "salient" means?
>>>
>>>
>>> If I didn't know what it meant, I could look it up in the fucking
>>> dictionary, teach'. To answer your question, I wrote: "It's
>>> impossible to keep track of what one is doing, you leave an app and
>>> have no route back to it".
>>>
>>
>> Hmmmm...
>>
>> iOS device with a home button:
>>
>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to
>> your previous app.
>>
>> iOS device without a home button:
>>
>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>
>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>
>> How do you do it on Android?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Android, tap the button on the lower left, scroll through the running apps
> left or right. Tap the app you want or tap close all.

So basically the same as an iPhone.

>
> I can't tell you how many times I've seen iPhone users frantically swiping
> through their devices in airports or asking for help from someone next to
> them.

Bullshit.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Alan
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On 2024-12-28 20:16, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> iOS device with a home button:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Double-click the home button and flick to the right to get back to your
>>>>>> previous app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iOS device without a home button:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flick up from the bottom of the screen and then to the right...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and then flick to your app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you do it on Android?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't speak to every manufacturer of Android phones, but Samsung
>>>>> gives one the ability to pull up a rotating dial of apps that are
>>>>> running, easily navigating and multitasking.
>>>>
>>>> So... ...no different except for your ignorance of how it works on iOS.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> If I have to *learn* how to use a fucking computer with a touchscreen,
>>> it tells me there's something *inferior* about its design - namely,
>>> Apple forcing crapware on its victims.
>> Are you seriously claiming you didn't have to "*learn*" how to use your
>> Samsung phone, doofus?
>>
>> You just intuited how to switch between open applications?
>>
>> I find that highly unlikely.
>
>
> There's more than just the lame home button, is the thing.
What makes the home button (which hasn't been on an iPhone since 2022)
"lame"?

Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
on your Samsung phone.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Joel
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>on your Samsung phone.

You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
they're too proud of being quirky.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

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abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 11:09, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>> on your Samsung phone.
>
>
> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
> they're too proud of being quirky.
And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?

I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.

The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.

Neither is more intuitive than the other.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>
>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>
>I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>
>The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>
>Neither is more intuitive than the other.

Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 11:34, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>
>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>
>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>
>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>
>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>
>
> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
Both methods are fine, doofus.

Both need to be learned.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>
>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>
>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>
>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>
>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>
>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>Both methods are fine, doofus.
>
>Both need to be learned.

But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 11:47, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>
>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>
>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>
>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>
>> Both need to be learned.
>
>
> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>

YOU get lost, loser.

That proves nothing.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>
>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>
>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>
>>> Both need to be learned.
>>
>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>
>YOU get lost, loser.
>
>That proves nothing.

It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
quirks.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 12:22, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>
>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>
>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>
>> That proves nothing.
>
>
> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
> quirks.
>

LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!

The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just
out of puberty.

Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.

The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
take up screen real estate at all times.

The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking
LESS real estate.

You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to make.

Neither is more "quirky".

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 12:22, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>
>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>
>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>
>> That proves nothing.
>
>
> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
> quirks.
>

So tell me this:

Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...

....since Android 9 in 2018...

....which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>
>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>
>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>
>>> That proves nothing.
>>
>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>> quirks.
>
>LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>
>The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just
>out of puberty.

I'll be 48 in March.

>Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.
>
>The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
>take up screen real estate at all times.
>
>The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking
>LESS real estate.
>
>You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to make.
>
>Neither is more "quirky".

No, you're wrong, it is quirky, it's retarded even. Apple is
goofware.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>
>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>
>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>
>>> That proves nothing.
>>
>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>> quirks.
>
>So tell me this:
>
>Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>
>...since Android 9 in 2018...
>
>...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?

I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
From: Alan
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On 2024-12-29 13:08, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>>
>>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>>
>>>> That proves nothing.
>>>
>>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>> quirks.
>>
>> LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>
>> The more you reply, the more I'm convinced that--at best--you're just
>> out of puberty.
>
>
> I'll be 48 in March.

Then you're a case of arrested development.

>
>
>> Something isn't "quirky" in general just because you can't figure it out.
>>
>> The Samsung/Android method works fine, but it does mean that the buttons
>> take up screen real estate at all times.
>>
>> The iPhone's swipe method works fine too, but it does so while taking
>> LESS real estate.
>>
>> You had to learn which button to push, I had to learn what gesture to make.
>>
>> Neither is more "quirky".
>
>
> No, you're wrong, it is quirky, it's retarded even. Apple is
> goofware.
And yet beyond "it doesn't work the way I think it should work", you
can't articulate a single way it's "quirky".

Subject: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting
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On 2024-12-29 13:13, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me the steps you need to take to actually use this "rotating dial"
>>>>>>>>>> on your Samsung phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You press one of the three buttons on the bottom, and it pops up. Very
>>>>>>>>> smooth, very clever. Something Apple will never copy though because
>>>>>>>>> they're too proud of being quirky.
>>>>>>>> And that is so very different than swiping up from the bottom?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I swipe up from the bottom of the screen; up then to the right. Very smooth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difference is what you KNOW, doofus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neither is more intuitive than the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh sure, fanboy, just act like your method is logical.
>>>>>> Both methods are fine, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both need to be learned.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you learn *intuitively* with Samsung, I get lost with Apple.
>>>>
>>>> YOU get lost, loser.
>>>>
>>>> That proves nothing.
>>>
>>> It proves that people with real intellect don't have time for Apple's
>>> quirks.
>>
>> So tell me this:
>>
>> Why has Android's default interface switch to gesture-based...
>>
>> ...since Android 9 in 2018...
>>
>> ...which followed Apple's lead with the iPhone X released in 2017?
>
>
> I don't know anything about Android phones other than Samsung, I go by
> them because they're the flagship Android manufacturer, the head-to-
> head competitor with Apple. I'm in love with their motif.
>

You are ignorant about so much it would seem...

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