Michael A Terrell wrote:
> I mean he has no evidence of the existence of a "deep state." There
> isn't any.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

The Senior Executive Service (SES)[1] is a position classification in
the United States federal civil service equivalent to general officer or
flag officer rank in the U.S. Armed Forces. It was created in 1979 when
the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 went into effect under President
Jimmy Carter.[2]

Characteristics
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES was designed to
be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications,
serving in key positions just below the top presidential appointees as a
link between them and the rest of the federal (civil service) workforce.
SES positions are considered to be above the GS-15 level of the General
Schedule, and below Level III of the Executive Schedule. Career members
of the SES ranks are eligible for the Presidential Rank Awards
program.[citation needed]

Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments
rather than by career employees.[3] About half of the SES is designated
"Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The
other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career
employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.
Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by
career appointees.[4]

Senior level employees of several agencies are exempt from the SES but
have their own senior executive positions; these include the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Defense
Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Transportation Security
Administration, Federal Aviation Administration, Government
Accountability Office, Members of the Foreign Service, and government
corporations.

Adverse actions
SES career appointees have civil service protections; they may only be
fired or suspended for more than 14 days for misconduct, neglect of
duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a directed reassignment or to
accompany a position in a transfer of function. These adverse actions
may be appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

An SES career appointee can also be reassigned within the SES, or from
the SES into a competitive service position, based on performance
ratings. A single unsatisfactory performance rating makes them eligible
for reassignment, though it is not mandatory. However, they must be
removed from the SES if they receive two unsatisfactory ratings in a
period of five consecutive years, or two less than fully successful
ratings within three consecutive years. Reassignments may not be
appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

SES career appointees in the United States Department of Veterans
Affairs have different procedures as a result of the Department of
Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of
2017. The Secretary of Veterans Affairs has discretion to suspend,
demote, remove, or take other actions against SES career appointees or
other high-level executives if the Secretary determines that the
individual’s misconduct or performance warrants such action, with
abbreviated notice and appeals rights.[5]

By contrast, noncareer and limited-term SES appointees are generally not
subject to removal protections and may be removed from the SES at any
time.[5]

Pay rates
(Effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning
on or after January 1, 2023)[6]
Minimum Maximum
Agencies with a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System $141,022
$212,100
Agencies without a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System
$141,022 $195,000
Unlike the General Schedule (GS) grades, SES pay is determined at agency
discretion within certain parameters, and there is no locality pay
adjustment.

The minimum pay level for the SES is set at 120 percent of the basic pay
for GS-15 Step 1 employees ($126,148 for 2018).[7] The maximum pay level
depends on whether or not the employing agency has a "certified" SES
performance appraisal system:[8]

If the agency has a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level II
of the Executive Schedule ($203,700 for 2022).[9]
If the agency does not have a certified system, the maximum pay is set
at Level III of the Executive Schedule ($187,300 for 2022).[9]
Total aggregate pay is limited to the salary of the Vice President of
the United States ($261,400 for 2022).

Prior to 2004, the SES used a six-level system. It was replaced with the
current open band system on January 1, 2014

Malte Runz wrote:
> Sometimes it really is that simple!
>
> (snip)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

The Senior Executive Service (SES)[1] is a position classification in
the United States federal civil service equivalent to general officer or
flag officer rank in the U.S. Armed Forces. It was created in 1979 when
the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 went into effect under President
Jimmy Carter.[2]

Characteristics
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES was designed to
be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications,
serving in key positions just below the top presidential appointees as a
link between them and the rest of the federal (civil service) workforce.
SES positions are considered to be above the GS-15 level of the General
Schedule, and below Level III of the Executive Schedule. Career members
of the SES ranks are eligible for the Presidential Rank Awards
program.[citation needed]

Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments
rather than by career employees.[3] About half of the SES is designated
"Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The
other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career
employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.
Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by
career appointees.[4]

Senior level employees of several agencies are exempt from the SES but
have their own senior executive positions; these include the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Defense
Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Transportation Security
Administration, Federal Aviation Administration, Government
Accountability Office, Members of the Foreign Service, and government
corporations.

Adverse actions
SES career appointees have civil service protections; they may only be
fired or suspended for more than 14 days for misconduct, neglect of
duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a directed reassignment or to
accompany a position in a transfer of function. These adverse actions
may be appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

An SES career appointee can also be reassigned within the SES, or from
the SES into a competitive service position, based on performance
ratings. A single unsatisfactory performance rating makes them eligible
for reassignment, though it is not mandatory. However, they must be
removed from the SES if they receive two unsatisfactory ratings in a
period of five consecutive years, or two less than fully successful
ratings within three consecutive years. Reassignments may not be
appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

SES career appointees in the United States Department of Veterans
Affairs have different procedures as a result of the Department of
Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of
2017. The Secretary of Veterans Affairs has discretion to suspend,
demote, remove, or take other actions against SES career appointees or
other high-level executives if the Secretary determines that the
individual’s misconduct or performance warrants such action, with
abbreviated notice and appeals rights.[5]

By contrast, noncareer and limited-term SES appointees are generally not
subject to removal protections and may be removed from the SES at any
time.[5]

Pay rates
(Effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning
on or after January 1, 2023)[6]
Minimum Maximum
Agencies with a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System $141,022
$212,100
Agencies without a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System
$141,022 $195,000
Unlike the General Schedule (GS) grades, SES pay is determined at agency
discretion within certain parameters, and there is no locality pay
adjustment.

The minimum pay level for the SES is set at 120 percent of the basic pay
for GS-15 Step 1 employees ($126,148 for 2018).[7] The maximum pay level
depends on whether or not the employing agency has a "certified" SES
performance appraisal system:[8]

If the agency has a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level II
of the Executive Schedule ($203,700 for 2022).[9]
If the agency does not have a certified system, the maximum pay is set
at Level III of the Executive Schedule ($187,300 for 2022).[9]
Total aggregate pay is limited to the salary of the Vice President of
the United States ($261,400 for 2022).

Prior to 2004, the SES used a six-level system. It was replaced with the
current open band system on January 1, 2014

Michael A Terrell wrote:
> There isn't any.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In <a14iaj15g14rt4cjmcjjt73s29vuvgri3u@4ax.com> Swill wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>
>>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>>
>>
>>No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and allegations.
>
> <laughs and points>
>
> Like you're ever going to convince anybody with three or more brain cells
of that!

THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness
in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she
was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later
the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton
as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in
the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He
allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
“Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she
were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill
Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible
corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related
to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of
three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in
the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22,
1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3
weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August
15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council
personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports
say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to
falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been
slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before
their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in
a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of
nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC
email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

Harris Blows wrote:
> In <a14iaj15g14rt4cjmcjjt73s29vuvgri3u@4ax.com> Swill wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>
>>>> No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and allegations.
>>
>> <laughs and points>
>>
>> Like you're ever going to convince anybody with three or more brain cells
> of that!
>
> THE CLINTON DEAD POOL
>
> 1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an
> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness
> in Ken Starr’s investigation.
>
> 2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
> Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she
> was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
>
> 3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary
> Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
> ruled a suicide.
>
> 4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to
> have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull
> resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
> investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
> prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later
> the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.
>
> 5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
> raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
>
> 6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found
> dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton
> as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
>
> 7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
> woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
> on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in
> the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
> Clinton fund raising events.
>
> 8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little
> Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
> Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He
> allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
> were mysteriously removed from his house.
>
> 9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
> “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
> visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
>
> 10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
> suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
>
> 11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
> dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
> ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she
> were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill
> Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible
> corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
>
> 12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
> Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
> 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
> fiancee.
>
> 13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by
> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
> convicted drug distributor.
>
> 14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related
> to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of
> three gunshot wounds.
>
> 15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
> Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
> ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
>
> 16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
> 17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and
> Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in
> the middle of his investigation.
>
> 18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
> Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22,
> 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3
> weeks before his death.
>
> 19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp.
> Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August
> 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
>
>
> 21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
> special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
>
> 22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
> Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
> crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council
> personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
>
> 23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
> accident.
>
> 24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
> in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
> car had hit a utility pole.
>
> 25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>
> 26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
> when his plane exploded.
>
> 27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports
> say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
> operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to
> falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been
> slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before
> their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
>
> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
>
> 28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
> truck, 7/88.
>
> 29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
>
> 30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
>
> 31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
> in April 1989.
>
> 32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
> was due to natural causes”.
>
> 34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in
> a set-up robbery July 1989.
>
> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
> 35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
> 36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
> 37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
> 38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
> 39 – Major General William Robertson
> 40 – Col. William Densberger
> 41 – Col. Robert Kelly
> 42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
> 43 – Steve Willis
> 44 – Robert Williams
> 45 – Conway LeBleu
> 46 – Todd McKeehan
>
> And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of
> nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC
> email scandal.
>
> Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.
>

Chips Loral wrote:
> Michael A Terrell wrote:
>> I mean he has no evidence of the existence of a "deep state." There
>> isn't any.
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)
>
> The Senior Executive Service (SES)[1] is a position classification in
> the United States federal civil service equivalent to general officer or
> flag officer rank in the U.S. Armed Forces. It was created in 1979 when
> the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 went into effect under President
> Jimmy Carter.[2]
>
> Characteristics
> According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES was designed to
> be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications,
> serving in key positions just below the top presidential appointees as a
> link between them and the rest of the federal (civil service) workforce.
> SES positions are considered to be above the GS-15 level of the General
> Schedule, and below Level III of the Executive Schedule. Career members
> of the SES ranks are eligible for the Presidential Rank Awards
> program.[citation needed]
>
> Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments
> rather than by career employees.[3] About half of the SES is designated
> "Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The
> other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career
> employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.
> Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by
> career appointees.[4]
>
> Senior level employees of several agencies are exempt from the SES but
> have their own senior executive positions; these include the Federal
> Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Defense
> Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Transportation Security
> Administration, Federal Aviation Administration, Government
> Accountability Office, Members of the Foreign Service, and government
> corporations.
>
> Adverse actions
> SES career appointees have civil service protections; they may only be
> fired or suspended for more than 14 days for misconduct, neglect of
> duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a directed reassignment or to
> accompany a position in a transfer of function. These adverse actions
> may be appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]
>
> An SES career appointee can also be reassigned within the SES, or from
> the SES into a competitive service position, based on performance
> ratings. A single unsatisfactory performance rating makes them eligible
> for reassignment, though it is not mandatory. However, they must be
> removed from the SES if they receive two unsatisfactory ratings in a
> period of five consecutive years, or two less than fully successful
> ratings within three consecutive years. Reassignments may not be
> appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]
>
> SES career appointees in the United States Department of Veterans
> Affairs have different procedures as a result of the Department of
> Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of
> 2017. The Secretary of Veterans Affairs has discretion to suspend,
> demote, remove, or take other actions against SES career appointees or
> other high-level executives if the Secretary determines that the
> individual’s misconduct or performance warrants such action, with
> abbreviated notice and appeals rights.[5]
>
> By contrast, noncareer and limited-term SES appointees are generally not
> subject to removal protections and may be removed from the SES at any
> time.[5]
>
> Pay rates
> (Effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning
> on or after January 1, 2023)[6]
> Minimum    Maximum
> Agencies with a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System    $141,022
>  $212,100
> Agencies without a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System $141,022
> $195,000
> Unlike the General Schedule (GS) grades, SES pay is determined at agency
> discretion within certain parameters, and there is no locality pay
> adjustment.
>
> The minimum pay level for the SES is set at 120 percent of the basic pay
> for GS-15 Step 1 employees ($126,148 for 2018).[7] The maximum pay level
> depends on whether or not the employing agency has a "certified" SES
> performance appraisal system:[8]
>
> If the agency has a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level II
> of the Executive Schedule ($203,700 for 2022).[9]
> If the agency does not have a certified system, the maximum pay is set
> at Level III of the Executive Schedule ($187,300 for 2022).[9]
> Total aggregate pay is limited to the salary of the Vice President of
> the United States ($261,400 for 2022).
>
> Prior to 2004, the SES used a six-level system. It was replaced with the
> current open band system on January 1, 2014

this is the 6th name gerk has used today

In <uD6qO.121209$xYQc.66846@fx12.iad> Rudy pooted:
>
> On 7/29/2024 8:46 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>
>>> No.  He does not.  Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
>>>
>>
>> No evidence was ever found of such.
>
> Incontrovertible evidence of it has been found, you Nazi cocksucker.

Waiting for you to post it.

In article <zmbqO.3$MC82.2@fx17.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
says...
> I no longer wish for Trump to become dead, although I certainly would not mourn
> for even a second if he were to do so.
>

Bingo.

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In article <zmbqO.3$MC82.2@fx17.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
says...
>
> On 7/30/2024 12:31 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:21:37 -0700, Michael A Terrell
> > <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/30/2024 12:10 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
> >> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
> >>
> >>> In article <t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com>,
> >>> nobodys@busine.ss says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
> >>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> (snip)
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
> >>>>
> >>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
> >>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
> >>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
> >>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
> >>>> troublemaker'?
> >>>>
> >>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
> >>>>> freedom.
> >>>>
> >>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
> >>>
> >>> Just like the left people who say they wished the shooter wouldn't have
> >>> missed.
> >>
> >> You can't identify anyone who expressed such a wish. You're making shit up and
> >> talking out your asshole again.
> >
> > I wish Trump had died that day. Not with a bullet in his head, but
> > rather of a massive stroke in his bed that morning. Would have saved
> > Corey Comperatore's life.
>
> You have a good point about Comperatore.
>
> I no longer wish for Trump to become dead, although I certainly would not mourn
> for even a second if he were to do so. What I wish for is the same massive
> stroke, but that he *survive* it. I want him to crippled, incapacitated, unable
> (or barely able) to speak, clearly incapable of running for president, but
> *fully aware* of his debilitated state. A relative of mine had a severe
> hemorrhagic stroke that left her left arm completely paralyzed. She had very
> limited use of her left leg; could walk a little, but only with great
> difficulty. She spent most of the rest of her life in a wheelchair. She actually
> regained most of her mental faculties, but her cognitive ability was damaged.
> She also had little control of her emotions, either laughing or sobbing for no
> detectable reason. That's what I want for Trump. That's what all right-thinking
> persons want for Trump. He needs to suffer, and be fully aware of his suffering.

The thoughts of a sick indoctrinated mind.

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In article <hebqO.2$gJuc.1@fx10.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
>
> On 7/29/2024 11:08 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:50:35 -0700, Al Feldhauser <kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >>> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
> >>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
> >>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs by the
> >>>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying Trump is
> >>>>>> corrupt?  Or
> >>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. There's no
> >>>> such thing.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.
> >>
> >> Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.
> >>
> >> There is no "deep state"
> >
> > What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil Service.
>
> That's not what they mean. What they mean is a subset of the civil service who
> are operating in planned and coordinated manner, directed by sinister hidden
> puppet masters ("Obama," "Soros," etc.), to thwart a president's agenda. And not
> just any president ? Trump. Trump is the only president whose minions and
> lackeys have pissed and moaned about a "deep state."

Your side won't because it will admit you are owned.

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In article <20240730.175040.985fc827@erienetworks.net>,
remailer@domain.invalid says...
>
> In <a14iaj15g14rt4cjmcjjt73s29vuvgri3u@4ax.com> Swill wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >>news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
> >>>
> >>>No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
> >>>
> >>
> >>No evidence was ever found of such. It's just speculation and allegations.
> >
> > <laughs and points>
> >
> > Like you're ever going to convince anybody with three or more brain cells
> of that!
>
> THE CLINTON DEAD POOL
>
> 1- James McDougal � Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an
> apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness
> in Ken Starr�s investigation.
>
> 2 � Mary Mahoney � A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
> Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder �happened just after she
> was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
>
> 3 � Vince Foster � Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary
> Clinton at Little Rock�s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
> ruled a suicide.
>
> 4 � Ron Brown � Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to
> have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
> investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown�s skull
> resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
> investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
> prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later
> the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.
>
> 5 � C. Victor Raiser, II � Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
> raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
>
> 6 � Paul Tulley � Democratic National Committee Political Director found
> dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton
> as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
>
> 7 � Ed Willey � Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
> woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
> on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in
> the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several
> Clinton fund raising events.
>
> 8 � Jerry Parks � Head of Clinton�s gubernatorial security team in Little
> Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
> Rock Park�s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He
> allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
> were mysteriously removed from his house.
>
> 9 � James Bunch � Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
> “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
> visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
>
> 10 � James Wilson � Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
> suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
>
> 11 � Kathy Ferguson � Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
> dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
> ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she
> were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill
> Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible
> corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
>
> 12 � Bill Shelton � Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
> Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,
> 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
> fiancee.
>
> 13 � Gandy Baugh � Attorney for Clinton�s friend Dan Lassater, died by
> jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
> convicted drug distributor.
>
> 14 � Florence Martin � Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related
> to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of
> three gunshot wounds.
>
> 15 � Suzanne Coleman � Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
> Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
> ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
>
> 16 � Paula Grober � Clinton�s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
> until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
> 17 � Danny Casolaro � Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and
> Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in
> the middle of his investigation.
>
> 18 � Paul Wilcher � Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
> Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22,
> 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3
> weeks before his death.
>
> 19 � Jon Parnell Walker � Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp.
> Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August
> 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
>
>
> 21 � Charles Meissner � Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
> special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
>
> 22 � Dr. Stanley Heard � Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
> Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
> crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton �s advisory council
> personally treated Clinton�s mother, stepfather and brother.
>
> 23 � Barry Seal � Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
> accident.
>
> 24 � Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. � Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
> in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
> car had hit a utility pole.
>
> 25 � Stanley Huggins � Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
> purported suicide and his report was never released.
>
> 26 � Hershell Friday � Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
> when his plane exploded.
>
> 27 � Kevin Ives & Don Henry � Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports
> say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
> operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to
> falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been
> slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before
> their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
>
> THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
>
> 28 � Keith Coney � Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
> truck, 7/88.
>
> 29 � Keith McMaskle � Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
>
> 30 � Gregory Collins � Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
>
> 31 � Jeff Rhodes � He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
> in April 1989.
>
> 32 � James Milan � Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
> was due to natural causes”.
>
> 34 � Richard Winters � A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in
> a set-up robbery July 1989.
>
> THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
> 35 � Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
> 36 � Captain Scott J . Reynolds
> 37 � Sgt. Brian Hanley
> 38 � Sgt. Tim Sabel
> 39 � Major General William Robertson
> 40 � Col. William Densberger
> 41 � Col. Robert Kelly
> 42 � Spec. Gary Rhodes
> 43 � Steve Willis
> 44 � Robert Williams
> 45 � Conway LeBleu
> 46 � Todd McKeehan
>
> And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of
> nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC
> email scandal.
>
> Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

In article <20240730.180541.a256006f@erienetworks.net>,
remailer@domain.invalid says...
>
> In <uD6qO.121209$xYQc.66846@fx12.iad> Rudy pooted:
> >
> > On 7/29/2024 8:46 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >> "Governor Swill"�  wrote in message
> >> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
> >>>
> >>> No.�  He does not.�  Most political leaders don't murder their critics.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No evidence was ever found of such.
> >
> > Incontrovertible evidence of it has been found, you Nazi cocksucker.
>
> Waiting for you to post it.

He never posts proof of anything.

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In article <clgiajhvgmerp1mn59590i8bq6c7l6btcl@4ax.com>,
nobodys@busine.ss says...
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 20:21:58 -0400, Governor Swill
> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >A once thriving Ukrainian city liberated by Russia from all life and any kind of future.
> >There won?t be any people living in those ruins anymore. Russian fascism = death and
> >desolation to whatever it touches." Images:
> ><https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1816814471681118523>
> >
> >Sláva Ukrajíni!
>
> All we need now is Andrew going 'It's probably not even from Ukraine!'

Fuck Ukraine and it's crooked govt.

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In article <ochiajh7n34vej6mf32rd5attoddg6ct8a@4ax.com>,
nobodys@busine.ss says...
>
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 10:36:40 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >news:comfajlhh1davocg3nq03su0m2e4m19b4n@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:13:23 +1000, "Andrew W"
> >><snip>
> >>>Your statement is silly and ignorant. How can a multi centuries old
> >>>complex
> >>>network of systemic corruption be 'proven' on usenet?
> >>>There is tons of evidence though. Get out of your cave.
> >>
> >>If you had any evidence, you could easily post it to Usenet.
> >>
> >
> >What kind of evidence do you want? There are many kinds.
>
> 99% of the evidence you know of is something you've found on the
> internet or saw on TV. Maybe you've read a newspaper back in the day,
> or one of your costumers told you something he had heard online. But
> you don't have any firsthand experience or knowledge yourself.
>
> IOW you can link to as much of the evidence that convinced you as you
> want. You have no excuse.
>
> >You lot are lazy ...
>
> (snip)
>
> >You are lazy.
>
> We ask, not to obtain information from you because we are too lazy to
> find it ourselves, I have explained it before, we ask because we know
> you can't post any evidence and thereby proving what a piece of shit
> you are.
>
> Sometimes it really is that simple!
>
> (snip)

and you never back up anything.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

On 7/30/2024 3:23 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <zmbqO.3$MC82.2@fx17.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 12:31 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:21:37 -0700, Michael A Terrell
>>> <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2024 12:10 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com>,
>>>>> nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like the left people who say they wished the shooter wouldn't have
>>>>> missed.
>>>>
>>>> You can't identify anyone who expressed such a wish. You're making shit up and
>>>> talking out your asshole again.
>>>
>>> I wish Trump had died that day. Not with a bullet in his head, but
>>> rather of a massive stroke in his bed that morning. Would have saved
>>> Corey Comperatore's life.
>>
>> You have a good point about Comperatore.
>>
>> I no longer wish for Trump to become dead, although I certainly would not mourn
>> for even a second if he were to do so. What I wish for is the same massive
>> stroke, but that he *survive* it. I want him to crippled, incapacitated, unable
>> (or barely able) to speak, clearly incapable of running for president, but
>> *fully aware* of his debilitated state. A relative of mine had a severe
>> hemorrhagic stroke that left her left arm completely paralyzed. She had very
>> limited use of her left leg; could walk a little, but only with great
>> difficulty. She spent most of the rest of her life in a wheelchair. She actually
>> regained most of her mental faculties, but her cognitive ability was damaged.
>> She also had little control of her emotions, either laughing or sobbing for no
>> detectable reason. That's what I want for Trump. That's what all right-thinking
>> persons want for Trump. He needs to suffer, and be fully aware of his suffering.
>
> The thoughts of a

clear-thinking patriot.

Yes, that's right.

In <s4bqO.6$ZhK.3@fx14.iad> Michael Turdsmeller wrote:
>
> On 7/30/2024 12:16 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child
> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>
>> In article <ho8qO.134726$BFg.27313@fx13.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/30/2024 9:13 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 15:37:39 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:46:25 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:68cgaj9667scq52ukrlrfgqrn375jocthc@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 09:07:07 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. He does not. Most political leaders don't murder their
critics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No evidence was ever found of such. ...
>>>>>
>>>>> And the Russian police looked and looked and looked!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... It's just speculation and allegations.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the umpteenth time. Putin and his people around him make sure that
>>>>> everyone knows, or at least suspect, that Putin is behind all the
>>>>> assassinations. It's 'How to be a effective despot 1.01'. Keep people
>>>>> afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you, the expert on how to control people, would have known
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> She does.
>>>
>>> Andrea W is a troll and nothing but a troll.
>>
>> Same as
>
> me. Yes.

Which one are you? Professional or amateur?

In <hebqO.2$gJuc.1@fx10.iad> louise wrote:
>
> On 7/29/2024 11:08 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 07:50:35 -0700, Al Feldhauser
<kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:>>
>>> On 7/28/2024 10:04 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>> "Al Feldhauser"  wrote in message
news:1QfpO.47478$5Mb7.11139@fx47.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/2024 4:56 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b7i5aj964vfvcpidk33a68je4cqhfok7ql@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:02:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A6D0C659C90629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:v6a24g$3ga6i$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting and RINO
>>>>>>>>>> prosecutors and judges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     And now, the facts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were take-downs
by the
>>>>>>>> corrupt of those who oppose them. That's totalitarianism and
tyranny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those all happened under the Trump administration.  Are you saying
Trump is
>>>>>>> corrupt?  Or
>>>>>>> just incompetent to appoint a government?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You lot understand nothing. Trump called out the deep state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck off with that "deep state" bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth.
There's no
>>>>> such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> F.Y.I. the deep state is just another name for systemic corruption.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. That's not even how *you* use it, you subhuman Nazi filth.
>>>
>>> There is no "deep state"
>>
>> What they actually mean by "Deep State" is the Civil Service.
>
> That's not what they mean.

Swill is an idiot too. Career government employees of every ilk have
something to protect, their retirement scams on the public dime. They
illegally create policy and do everything they can to thwart progress or
improvement.

In <X6fqO.692$qO%5.294@fx16.iad> Rudy stuttered:
>
> On 7/30/2024 3:23 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child
> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>
>> In article <zmbqO.3$MC82.2@fx17.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/30/2024 12:31 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:21:37 -0700, Michael A Terrell
>>>> <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/30/2024 12:10 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child
>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in
Ukraine,
>>>>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like the left people who say they wished the shooter wouldn't
have
>>>>>> missed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't identify anyone who expressed such a wish. You're making
shit up and
>>>>> talking out your asshole again.
>>>>
>>>> I wish Trump had died that day. Not with a bullet in his head, but
>>>> rather of a massive stroke in his bed that morning. Would have saved
>>>> Corey Comperatore's life.
>>>
>>> You have a good point about Comperatore.
>>>
>>> I no longer wish for Trump to become dead, although I certainly would
not mourn
>>> for even a second if he were to do so. What I wish for is the same
massive
>>> stroke, but that he *survive* it. I want him to crippled, incapacitated,
unable
>>> (or barely able) to speak, clearly incapable of running for president,
but
>>> *fully aware* of his debilitated state. A relative of mine had a severe
>>> hemorrhagic stroke that left her left arm completely paralyzed. She had
very
>>> limited use of her left leg; could walk a little, but only with great
>>> difficulty. She spent most of the rest of her life in a wheelchair. She
actually
>>> regained most of her mental faculties, but her cognitive ability was
damaged.
>>> She also had little control of her emotions, either laughing or sobbing
for no
>>> detectable reason. That's what I want for Trump. That's what all right-
thinking
>>> persons want for Trump. He needs to suffer, and be fully aware of his
suffering.
>>
>> The thoughts of a
>
> sadistic homosexual.
>
> Yes, that's right.

Admission noted.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66a9527e$0$212405
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <XnsB1BED3DC47D98629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>> news:v898e8$mhj7$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>> > news:lc36aj5ukoa94s3mv7ainild3pbdv73hp6@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:28:27 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>The crooked left scuttled all the investigations and actions,
>> >>
>> >>In other words, the incompetent Republicans let the Magic Democrats�
>> >>put one over on them
>> >>again.
>> >>
>> >
>> > They have long running systemic corruption on their side. That takes
>> > time to clear it out.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Trump didn't "lock her up", he
>> didn't "make Mexico pay for it", he
>> didn't "eliminate the deep state",
>> he didn't "eliminate the entire
>> national debt", he didn't "Hire
>> Americans First", he didn't appoint
>> "the best and the brightest", he
>> didn't protect the Second Amendment.
>>
>> After four years of failed
>> promises you are really falling for
>> his current "I will do better next
>> time, trust me" angle?
>>
>>
>>
>
> and what did Joe do besides mumble and let his own party take him out.
>

You really CAN'T defend Trump, can you........

On 7/30/2024 3:21 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <33bqO.2$07Gb.1@fx02.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 12:10 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com>,
>>> nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>
>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>
>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>> freedom.
>>>>
>>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>
>>> Just like the left people who say they wished the shooter wouldn't have
>>> missed.
>>
>> You can't identify anyone who expressed such a wish. You're making shit up and
>> talking out your asshole again.
>
> Are you blind? People right here in this group have expressed it.

No one has expressed it.

On 7/30/2024 3:25 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <HabqO.3$a6n5.2@fx15.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 12:22 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <ZXXpO.220422$z2Mf.78151@fx16.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/29/2024 4:07 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message news:t0pfaj5tvefcvlsq3femilk94lr7hn94md@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:49:18 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "El Kabong"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:f0n98jdmt37p4u2vgqsn1vjhmgpi5e08uf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew hates democracy and loves Putin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're wrong on both counts. ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you do is defend Putin and what he is doing, not only in Ukraine,
>>>>>> but also how he deals with his political opposition in Russia.
>>>>>> Remember when you said that the journalist Putin had killed in the
>>>>>> elevator deserved it, because she was probably a 'dangerous
>>>>>> troublemaker'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin does the same as most political leaders do.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, you subhuman Nazi filth. Most political leaders do not imprison their
>>>> opponents on bogus charges and then murder them. Putin does that. Most political
>>>> leaders do not launch criminal wars of aggression against neighboring countries
>>>> that aren't threatening them. Putin does thattry
>>>
>>> Or some try to kill them at a public rally.
>>
>> One crazed Republiscum/QAnon tried, and failed, to kill Trump. Putin has killed
>> dozens.
>>
>
> More than one.

Only one.

>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... I'm against systemic corruption and for
>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does "freedom" mean to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Freedom from overtaxing to live the lives we want to live for a start.
>>>>
>>>> You're not overtaxed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Freedom from media propaganda.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have a right to be free of propaganda, and the country in which you
>>>> live has a free press. What you want is government suppression of news you don't
>>>> like.
>>>
>>> Show us where he said that.
>>
>> Implied.
>
> So he never said it.

Implied.

>>
>>> All news outlets tell untruths.
>>
>> Show proof <chortle>

<crickets>

>>
>>>>
>>>>> Freedom form dishonest politics and bureaucratic meddling in our lives.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have a right to be free from that.
>>>
>>> We all do, but it will never happen.
>>
>> You don't.
>
> I do and

You don't.

>>
>>>>
>>>>> Freedom from being poisoned by chemicals.
>>>>
>>>> Your government is working to *prevent* your being poisoned by chemicals. The
>>>> type of right-wingnut regime you seek would *increase* your risk of being
>>>> poisoned by chemicals, and you would be unable to do anything about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> What the hell does that even mean?
>>
>> If English were your native tongue and if you had not dropped out of high
>> school, you'd know what it means.
>
> So you don't know either.

I know what it means. You don't and never will.

On 7/30/2024 3:34 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <jXcqO.3$1Gdb.2@fx04.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 1:51 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <9t8qO.161622$q2da.23946@fx18.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2024 9:19 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 01:49:05 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrot
>>>>>>> "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 21:24:14 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How did that work out?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course you don't know that the DOJ is corrupt and is
>>>>>>>>>>> influenced by the Dems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So Trump lied when he said he would
>>>>>>>>>> "sweep out the Deep State"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He cleared out a lot of it but it takes more than just four years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Federal employment went UP
>>>>>> every year Trump was president.
>>>>>> As did federal spending. Tell us
>>>>>> how that is "reducing the deep
>>>>>> state".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES9091000001
>>>>>
>>>>> But private sector employment went down.
>>>>
>>>> Not up until the pandemic hit it didn't. It did fall when Trump crashed the
>>>> economy and it didn't recover to pre-pandemic levels until a little bit less
>>>> than 18 months into Biden's successful presidency.
>>>
>>> BLAME TRUMP
>>
>> Trump crashed the economy.
>
> Nope.

Yep.

> I was happy and shit was cheaper.

Because you're a simpleton and your SSDI checks were arriving on time.

On 7/30/2024 3:37 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <ahaqO.3$89y.1@fx18.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 10:29 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <gE8qO.3978$601.3940@fx38.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/30/2024 9:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:19:33 -0700, Al Feldhauser <kiick_wiebur@taft.cone> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/29/2024 7:57 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:fq4faj1ba0e9sgvcggepbftr4mrfbsb6a8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:57:11 -0700, ugly black olympics 2024
>>>>>>>> <too-many-blacks@disney.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/28/2024 7:14 PM, El Kabong wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So why don't you describe it for us?  Or is it such a Secret Society that
>>>>>>>>>>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lok them up!
>>>>>>>>>> Lok them up!
>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go to <http://deepstate.org>  What does it say?  "The
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you Holman's retarded gay little brother?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.govexec.com/feature/gov-exec-deconstructing-deep-state/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "As the Trump era has unfolded, the term ?deep state? has come to mean
>>>>>>>> something sinister
>>>>>>>> to some on the far right. More than just signifying an impersonal, inept
>>>>>>>> bureaucracy, it
>>>>>>>> conjures a secretive illuminati of bureaucrats determined to sabotage the
>>>>>>>> Trump agenda."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <laughs and points>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What a bunch of loons!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you just believe whatever articles say?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no "deep state."
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes there is.
>>>>
>>>> No, there isn't. It's just an irrational conspiracy belief held by right-wingnuts.
>>>>
>>>> What right-wingnuts conceive of the "deep-state" as being is an organized,
>>>> coordinated effort by unnamed civil servants buried deep in federal executive
>>>> branch agencies actively working to thwart the agenda of an elected president,
>>>> specifically Trump. There is no evidence of any such organized, coordinated
>>>> effort. There are undoubtedly some individual low- and mid-level bureaucrats who
>>>> drag their feet and/or work ineffectually, but that has always been the
>>>> complaint about government bureaucrats, at any level of government.
>>>>
>>>> There is no "deep state" as right-wingnuts conceive of it.
>>>
>>> Stay blind.
>>
>> There is no "deep state." This is an irrational bogeyman belief beloved by
>> stupid unthinking gullible knuckle-dragging right-wingnut fucktards like you.
>>
>> You believe every lie your Republiscum/QAnon puppet masters feed you.
>
> I believe the lies my right-wingnut handlers tell me.
>

That's what I just said.

On 7/30/2024 3:26 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <tfbqO.3$gJuc.2@fx10.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 12:27 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <bfcgajpsb8t0gh1poilol8hanl86danhm5@4ax.com>,
>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> A once thriving Ukrainian city liberated by Russia from all life and any kind of future.
>>>> There won?t be any people living in those ruins anymore. Russian fascism = death and
>>>> desolation to whatever it touches." Images:
>>>> <https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1816814471681118523>
>>>>
>>>> Sláva Ukrajíni!
>>>
>>> Like the 2020 riots which were mostly peaceful.
>>
>> Most of the 2020 protests *were* peaceful. None were intended to overthrow any
>> government.
>
> They burned and invaded

There was no invasion and damned little burning. They were protests. Yours was
an insurrection.

On 7/30/2024 3:38 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <DfaqO.2$89y.1@fx18.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 7/30/2024 10:28 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <TD6qO.121211$xYQc.55917@fx12.iad>, kiick_wiebur@taft.cone
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/29/2024 7:57 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>> "Governor Swill"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:fq4faj1ba0e9sgvcggepbftr4mrfbsb6a8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 19:57:11 -0700, ugly black olympics 2024
>>>>>> <too-many-blacks@disney.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/28/2024 7:14 PM, El Kabong wrote:
>>>>>>>> Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 15:45:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>> So why don't you describe it for us?  Or is it such a Secret Society that
>>>>>>>>>> no one has any actual proof - like the Illiminati?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lok it up, yourself, dummy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lok them up!
>>>>>>>> Lok them up!
>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's how we know that Deep State doesn't exist:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go to <http://deepstate.org>  What does it say?  "The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you Holman's retarded gay little brother?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.govexec.com/feature/gov-exec-deconstructing-deep-state/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "As the Trump era has unfolded, the term ?deep state? has come to mean
>>>>>> something sinister
>>>>>> to some on the far right. More than just signifying an impersonal, inept
>>>>>> bureaucracy, it
>>>>>> conjures a secretive illuminati of bureaucrats determined to sabotage the
>>>>>> Trump agenda."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <laughs and points>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a bunch of loons!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you just believe whatever articles say?
>>>>
>>>> There is no "deep state."
>>>
>>> Stay blind.
>>
>> There is no "deep state." This is an irrational bogeyman belief beloved by
>> stupid unthinking gullible knuckle-dragging right-wingnut fucktards like you.
>
> Yet they yanked Joe right out of the race.

No. He was persuaded to withdraw for the good of his party and the good of the
country.