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> On 1/7/25 1:30 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2025-01-07 13:14, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-07 11:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-07 08:43, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 16:20, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse
>>>>>>>>> code:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 19:06, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 13:49, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The way they sell it, warming means a lesser availability of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> water. Obviously, this would result in people dying. With
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cooling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though, there would be a decreased availability of food in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> general,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I don't see how one is worse than the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Except the narrative says that all of greenland will melt.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a
>>>>>>>>>>>> fuck of a lot of fresh water
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If all of Greenland will melt, the people who are suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>> inconvenienced by the world's warming could move there and
>>>>>>>>>>> turn the
>>>>>>>>>>> continent-like country into something inhabitable for the
>>>>>>>>>>> first time in
>>>>>>>>>>> thousands of years. I imagine that as a result of it never
>>>>>>>>>>> really being
>>>>>>>>>>> used for agriculture, that land is incredibly fertile.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not wrong there. In fact huge areas of Canadian, Alaskan and
>>>>>>>>>> Siberian
>>>>>>>>>> tundra would be really quite nice places to live. Scarcely
>>>>>>>>>> worse than
>>>>>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Except for buildings and equipment sinking into the melting
>>>>>>>>> tundra :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is soil underneath all of that, Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-military-
>>>>>>> sees-growing-threat-in-thawing-permafrost/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        Climate change is rapidly altering the Arctic landscape, in
>>>>>>> particular the
>>>>>>>        permafrost that serves as a foundation for buildings across
>>>>>>> the region.
>>>>>>>        Warming temperatures are thawing out the frozen ground, and
>>>>>>> in the process
>>>>>>>        it is threatening to unsettle structures that were built
>>>>>>> decades ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "... that were built decades ago." How many buildings have been
>>>>>> erected
>>>>>> decades ago in the waste known as Greenland? Even in Quebec where the
>>>>>> north is settled to a degree, the amount of buildings in existence is
>>>>>> minimal because the population is itself tiny.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        That's particularly worrisome for the U.S. military, which
>>>>>>> maintains
>>>>>>>        facilities across the Arctic region. And it's one reason
>>>>>>> Hicks embarked on
>>>>>>>        a two-day tour of the nation’s northernmost military bases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        “Building and maintaining infrastructure — like runways —
>>>>>>> on permafrost
>>>>>>>        presents unique challenges for Arctic nations — which are
>>>>>>> growing with the
>>>>>>>        effects of climate change,” Hicks wrote in a Twitter post
>>>>>>> on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once there is no longer permafrost, those challenges will be
>>>>>> eradicated too.
>>>>>
>>>>> And replacement structures will be built/rebuilt.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that doesn't include methane release.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind if the people building new structure fart a time or two. Do
>>>> you, Chris?
>>>
>>> Cut the patronizing crap.
>>
>> I can't help but patronize here. You're looking at a gigantic country,
>> bigger than Europe, which is more or less uninhabited at the moment
>> because of its unfavourable conditions.
>
> Its uninhabited for a reason. Do you really think that if it was +10F
> warmer that all of the reasons are going to suddenly disappear?
>
>> The climate _might_ be warming
>> with the result being an uninhabited continent of a country becoming
>> viable for life, and you're concerned that the few buildings it has
>> might be destroyed and/or replaced, as if that hasn't happened in the
>> West before, and that some methane might be released. Who gives a shit?
>
> Methane is known to be a pretty nasty greenhouse gas: you're looking at
> a positive feedback loop. The observation on infrastructure is that it
> is all going to be impacted & incur expenses even to maintain status quo
> without any "everyone moves North" growth like you're suggesting.
>
>
>> Suddenly, you have a place where you can send the useless people looking
>> to be refugees in the West, if they really want freedom and another shot
>> at life.
>
> Moot point when domestic policy won't let anyone in, even if these new
> lands were to magically be opened up.
>
>> Suddenly, you have access to a wide variety of resources which
>> have not yet been exploited.
>
> "Suddenly"? Oil fields at Prudhoe Bay started in the 1960's, before you
> were born. And at 70°N, it's well above the Arctic Circle (66°34′N).
>
>> And here _you_ are, Chris, concerned that
>> living there might increase the temperature in one hundred years by
>> another 0.1 degree and increase the sea level by a millimetre.
>
> Except that there's already had +4" sea level rise since 1993...
>
> ...and the rate of temperature change is known to be increasing: the
> trend in 2000 was for +1.5°C by 2041, but the post-1995 trendline shows
> that that same +1.5°C datum is expected much earlier, in 2030. Note too
> that as of 2024, we're already most of the way there, at +1.36°C datum:
>
> <https://x.com/WeatherProf/status/1876273745482121550/photo/1>
>
>> Funny enough, there are lots of buildings erected over a century ago
>> that are surrounded by the same height of water today than they were
>> back then.
>
> Which are waterfront on an *ocean*? Likewise, eliminate from
> consideration all of those places which have built and/or raised
> seawalls/barriers/etc, such as New York City, London, Venice...
>
>> Nothing has changed regardless of what some scientists they
>> purchased tell you.
>
> One of my personal "To Do" projects is a 30+ year longitudinal photo
> essay of a concrete jetty built on bedrock: it used to stand clear &
> dry at high tide, but its now awash. Convince me on what's changed that
> wasn't sea level rise.
>
>> We already know that the "global cooling," "global
>> warming" and finally "climate change" garbage is a scam meant to enrich
>> the people at the top even more. We are also aware that a lot of the
>> floodings that have happened recently, like in Spain, were manufactured
>> not natural. If you get rid of the structures holding the water out of
>> certain areas, it's obvious that you will end up with flooding.
>
> Which explains the flooding channelized through a city, but not that the
> rainfall amounts have become pretty biblical. For Valenia City, Spain,
> the upstream town was Turis, which got 184.6mm in just one hour: that's
> over 7 inches. Likewise, its 24 hour total was 771mm (30"+).

This Andrzej guy is what I call a "frog in water set to boil" troll.
He's done this before. Start out reasonable, and slowly ramp up the
bullshit, to prolong the engagement.

Another climate-change rationalizer?

He's also done some racist posts; I should have plonked his smarmy ass
days ago.

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