On 1/12/2025 8:05 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 12-01-2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>>
>> I went into physics because I thought I would become bored with programming.
>
> I can understand one can become bored with programming in some company
> doing always the same stuff. But in a general way, I don't understand
> how one can get bored with programming. And that's one thing DFS will
> never be able to contest about the superiority of FOSS over proprietary
> software.

What superiority are you referring to?

> With proprietary software, to get chalenges in programming,
> you have to get hired by the company to work on it first. With FOSS,
> there are so many lines of codes in so many programming languages
> waiting for you to improve them that you can have fun as long as you
> want.

That's why it's called hobbyware.

On 1/12/2025 4:08 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:

> I don't work with others

"Teamwork is only for shallow losers." - Feeb

And that's why you live in Mom's basement at 43 years old, and very
likely always will.

> because most people are too slow

Total time for you to do a partial Gentoo install in 2020: 42 days off
and on

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I would bet you devoted more than 100 hours to installing that GuhNoo
shitware on one computer. Amazing.

> and too stupid,

"C++ is for degenerate sissies"

"Microshit will go down in history an an abject failure."

"Anyone probably could beat me in a coding contest."

"Only a dumb-fuck asshole actually watches videos on YouTube."

"REAL MEN use ONLY Linux and C"

"The simplest possible program in Microshit Windows translates to about
250K bytes."

Your stupidity is basically endless.

> just like all the jackasses on this NG.

You being the main jackass.

> I am not being arrogant.

You're being desperate and dishonest, as always. You have to lie-brag
to the Internet because reality continues to bite you in your
incompetent ass.

> This is a fact of reality.

No, fraud. It's just your lying, blustering defense mechanism because
you can't compete in the real world.

If you were anything close to what you say you are (academic, research
scientist, computer scientist, material scientist, electrical engineer,
mechanical engineer, mathematician, psychiatrist, knows EVERYTHING,
writes perfect code, is NEVER wrong), you'd have a successful career or
tenure at a good school.

Instead, you're a bust.

Le 12-01-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:47:28 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, having a job that is actually fun is "the dream" that not many
>> people get to live.
>>
>
> If you want to have fun with programming then start your own FOSS project.
> You will get to work on something that you enjoy as well as provide the
> world with something useful.

Everybody doesn't have your luck of being feed in an asylum with nothing
to do. Outside of an asylum, one have to get some money to be able to
eat. So, if the mandatory job can be fun, it's good.

> I have a couple of software projects (all C of course) that are
> waiting in the wings.

I don't believe that. Your only ability is to copy past code without
understanding it. It's useless. It doesn't need a git repo.

> But the code has to be more than good. It has to be perfect.

You see? It's incompatible with others of your claims. When someone show
you an issue in your code, you answer you are a programmer, not a coder.
So, your code is far from perfect and can't be put on gitlab by your own
standards.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Le 12-01-2025, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 1/12/2025 8:05 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 12-01-2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>>>
>>> I went into physics because I thought I would become bored with programming.
>>
>> I can understand one can become bored with programming in some company
>> doing always the same stuff. But in a general way, I don't understand
>> how one can get bored with programming. And that's one thing DFS will
>> never be able to contest about the superiority of FOSS over proprietary
>> software.
>
> What superiority are you referring to?

That's what I explained just after.

>> With proprietary software, to get chalenges in programming,
>> you have to get hired by the company to work on it first. With FOSS,
>> there are so many lines of codes in so many programming languages
>> waiting for you to improve them that you can have fun as long as you
>> want.
>
> That's why it's called hobbyware.

There is no incompatibility between having fun and contributing to great
things. You can choose what you want with FOSS, you have to be hired to
do the same thing in a company.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

Le 12-01-2025, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 1/12/2025 4:08 AM, Lying Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:
>
>> and too stupid,
>
> "Anyone probably could beat me in a coding contest."

I didn't saw this one, but I agree. I'm surprised he can admit it.

> Your stupidity is basically endless.

Yes, it's impressive. Each time I read something stupid from him and
believe he can't go farther, there is another post to prove me wrong.

>> just like all the jackasses on this NG.
>
> You being the main jackass.

The ultimate jackass.

> If you were anything close to what you say you are (academic, research
> scientist, computer scientist, material scientist, electrical engineer,
> mechanical engineer, mathematician, psychiatrist, knows EVERYTHING,
> writes perfect code, is NEVER wrong), you'd have a successful career or
> tenure at a good school.

Mostly, he would be able to answer interestingly instead of running away
faster than Forrest GUMP.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 12 Jan 2025 15:58:16 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> I don't believe that.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

That is your favorite, and totally meaningless, refrain.

But I have the appropriate rebuttal:

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

I think you'll get the message.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

--
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Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> Le 12-01-2025, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
>> On 1/12/2025 8:05 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Le 12-01-2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I went into physics because I thought I would become bored with programming.
>>>
>>> I can understand one can become bored with programming in some company
>>> doing always the same stuff. But in a general way, I don't understand
>>> how one can get bored with programming. And that's one thing DFS will
>>> never be able to contest about the superiority of FOSS over proprietary
>>> software.
>>
>> What superiority are you referring to?
>
> That's what I explained just after.
>
>>> With proprietary software, to get chalenges in programming,
>>> you have to get hired by the company to work on it first. With FOSS,
>>> there are so many lines of codes in so many programming languages
>>> waiting for you to improve them that you can have fun as long as you
>>> want.
>>
>> That's why it's called hobbyware.
>
> There is no incompatibility between having fun and contributing to great
> things. You can choose what you want with FOSS, you have to be hired to
> do the same thing in a company.

And there are many FOSS projects that are not hobbyware, and that are
professionally run:

- Linux kernel
- Linux distros Red Hat / Fedory, Debian / Ubuntu, Arch....
- LibreOffice
- Systemd
- Ansible
- Git
- GNU C/C++ and the whole suite of tools
- Clang
- Python
- . . .

--
I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do will encounter
quick retribution. All will be suspended, and I don't care if it wrecks
the National League for five years. This is the United States of America
and one citizen has as much right to play as another.
-- Ford Frick, National League President, reacting to a
threatened strike by some Cardinal players in 1947 if
Jackie Robinson took the field against St. Louis. The
Cardinals backed down and played.

On 12 Jan 2025 13:05:46 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> I can understand one can become bored with programming in some company
> doing always the same stuff. But in a general way, I don't understand
> how one can get bored with programming.

I didn't get bored with programming when I took a few years off but I
started to question if crouching behind a keyboard was a proper job for a
man. The start of my career in the machine tools industry was very
physical. There's something about designing the control circuity for a 200
ton molding press and seeing it in action that is rewarding. It was also
hot, dirty, noisy, and I've been soaked by hydraulic fluid more than once
when a line blew.

As time went on it became more and more abstract. I've sort of reverted to
my roots with microcontrollers interacting directly with physical sensors,
servos, H-bridges, and so forth. The IoT is getting back to reality.

On 12 Jan 2025 11:12:46 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> It's not always that easy. If you have never been able to learn anything
> useful, the job offer is limited. When you have two opportunities will
> good salaries, it's easy to pick the most enjoyable one even if it means
> a little bit less money. But if anybody can take the jobs you can
> choose, then the probability that the offers are at the same time poorly
> remunerated and uninteresting is high.

True. I enjoyed driving a truck for several years, seeing the
transportation industry from the inside. However I knew that when I had my
fill there would be something else. Most drivers don't have that luxury.