On 2024-10-05 4:52 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 10/5/2024 4:08 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2024-10-05 12:43 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2024 7:27 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-05 6:38 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:00:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Who manufacture's the most computers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      China is the world's leading manufacturer of computers,
>>>>>>> producing
>>>>>>>      over 90% of the world's computers:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You probably could say the same about sneakers or damn near
>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Before we get too snarky with China, it might be a good idea
>>>>> to rebuild
>>>>> our manufacturing base first.
>>>>
>>>> Something Trump was doing and the media called him a monster for doing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump is a lying, criminal sack of shit.
>>>
>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/18/502528759/trump-claims-credit-for-keeping-ford-lincoln-production-in-kentucky
>>
>> NPR are lying sacks of shit who defend the Democrat narrative no
>> matter what.
>
>
> The ONLY narrative here is Trump lying and claiming credit for something
> he didn't achieve.  He does it often.  He's a compulsive liar.

Companies tend to announce a move only after they've already decided to
do so. Meanwhile, Trump is saying that he convinced the Bill Ford not to
move... assuming that he convinced him to not even consider the move. I
don't see where Trump lied. It seems like the true lie here is NPR
misinterpreting what was said. The fact that they didn't announce a move
doesn't mean that Trump didn't prevent them from even considering it.

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On 2024-10-05 4:59 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 10/5/2024 4:09 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2024-10-05 12:49 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2024 7:30 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think most people don't realize how important the keyboard is.
>>>> Even if everything else works fine, if that keyboard keeps needing
>>>> to be replaced or ends up being mushy, the entire experience of
>>>> using the computer is ruined. People can live with a mediocre
>>>> display, trackpad or speakers, but if the keyboard is shit, people
>>>> just won't want to use their machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep.  I've had very good luck with the 3 MS Comfort Curve 2000
>>> keyboards I bought many years ago for $15 each, unboxed, at
>>> MicroCenter.  They've lasted me probably 15 years.
>>>
>>> Slightly ergonomic with low keyboard travel.
>>>
>>> Should've bought 8 of them.
>>
>> One of the few things I bought in the 1990s was a clone of the
>> Microsoft Curve keyboard. I don't recall when I got rid of it, but it
>> was the most stellar keyboard I had ever owned. I honestly don't see
>> why every keyboard on the market doesn't use that design.
>
>
> MS went to the Curve 3000, which is also ergonomic but very different. I
> have one, but I haven't used it much.  Initially it really slowed me down.
>
> I looked at the SteelSeries keyboards you mentioned, but they all appear
> to be for gaming, and no ergonomic models.
>
>
> Edit: this one is close to the Curve 2000.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/RECCAZR-Ergonomic-Keyboard-Spill-Resistant-Compatible/dp/B0DD3KDT2G/
>
> Gets good reviews and is just $30.

I referred to the SteelSeries specifically for laptops. MSI models
usually have a SteelSeries keyboard on their gaming machines. These
keyboards are superior to what ASUS uses on its Zephyrus models at the
very least. I use a Razer BlackWidow v3 when I'm connected to the big
screen downstairs (not in a while since we got flooded at the end of
August). However, the Microsoft clone I had in the late 90s was my
favourite.

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On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:52:18 -0400, DFS wrote:

> The ONLY narrative here is Trump lying and claiming credit for something
> he didn't achieve. He does it often. He's a compulsive liar.

And in the other corner weighing in at 137 pounds we have Kamala Harris
trying to unclaim credit for anything she and her senile boss achieved. It
is refreshing that her running mate, Knucklehead Walz, has a degree of
self awareness.

rbowman wrote:

> RonB wrote:
>>
>> Before we get too snarky with China, it might be a good idea to
>> rebuild our manufacturing base first.
>
> Good luck with that. The people who remember how retired five years ago.

China has the entire supply chain right there, giving them
efficiencies that are very hard to compete with.

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advocate" Hadron Quark

On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 19:15:30 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
>
>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> Before we get too snarky with China, it might be a good idea to
>>> rebuild our manufacturing base first.
>>
>> Good luck with that. The people who remember how retired five years
>> ago.
>
> China has the entire supply chain right there, giving them efficiencies
> that are very hard to compete with.

Manufacturing tends to require machinery and the US machine tool industry
dried up in the '70s. The Connecticut River valley was the home of many
firms like Bullard Machine Tool, Jones & Lamson, Fellows Gear Shaper, and
others.

https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2018/summer/feature/museum-tells-the-
history-manufacturing-civil-war-rifles-modern-day-retail

Museum pieces. To paraphrase Joni Mitchell

They took all the machines, put 'em in a machine museum
And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em

You might need some steel too. Both Biden and Trump are making noises
about blocking the sale of U.S. Steel to Nippon but that may be theater.
Reagan gave the steel companies a tax break so they could modernize their
operations. U.S. Steel used the money to but Marathon Oil instead.

To quite another songwriter who write good songs despite proving to be an
idiot, "Those jobs are going, boys, and they ain't coming back."

The duopoly sold the nation's birthright and didn't even get a bowl of
pottage.

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote at 10:28 this Saturday (GMT):
> On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:18:27 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Easily recouped at the price they're charging for high end computers. I
>>> think it has more to do with making more money.
>>
>> Computer manufacturers are not non-profits or at least try not to be. If
>> you're a corporate purchasing agent and can buy Lenovo boxes with the same
>> spec as Dell boxes $200 cheaper which way do you go?
>
> Still not convinced that this is the real reason. There is a difference
> between "for profit" and gouging.
>
> But, personally, I'll just go with computers that can be upgraded.

I hope new upgradable computers keep being made.
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
>RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote at 10:28 this Saturday (GMT):
>> On 2024-10-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:18:27 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> Easily recouped at the price they're charging for high end computers. I
>>>> think it has more to do with making more money.
>>>
>>> Computer manufacturers are not non-profits or at least try not to be. If
>>> you're a corporate purchasing agent and can buy Lenovo boxes with the same
>>> spec as Dell boxes $200 cheaper which way do you go?
>>
>> Still not convinced that this is the real reason. There is a difference
>> between "for profit" and gouging.
>>
>> But, personally, I'll just go with computers that can be upgraded.
>
>I hope new upgradable computers keep being made.

I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
at great deals.

--
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 07 Oct 2024 15:50:38 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
> at great deals.

There was nothing I was interested but a list of the best bargains for
Amazon's Prime Big Deal Days had a lot of gamer stuff if you have Prime.

A robot lawn mower caught my eye but with a 9" swath I don't think it
would work out.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
>> at great deals.
>
>There was nothing I was interested but a list of the best bargains for
>Amazon's Prime Big Deal Days had a lot of gamer stuff if you have Prime.
>
>A robot lawn mower caught my eye but with a 9" swath I don't think it
>would work out.

There was a time when NVMe support was "gaming" stuff, my motherboard
has the word written on the box, I have only played solitaire. I
wanted the Win10 workstation that requires the speed of NVMe. I also
fell in love with the low power consumption of my box, even with this
4K monitor, it's far less electricity than my old computer.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Mon, 07 Oct 2024 15:50:38 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
>> at great deals.
>
> There was nothing I was interested but a list of the best bargains for
> Amazon's Prime Big Deal Days had a lot of gamer stuff if you have Prime.
>
> A robot lawn mower caught my eye but with a 9" swath I don't think it
> would work out.

It would be good for a lawn in Chatsworth, CA. :-)

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-- John M. Ford, a.k.a. Dr. Mike
[If I can read my notes from the Ask Dr. Mike session at Baycon, I
believe he added that the beer-cooled computer uses "Forget Only
Memory". Ed.]

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 06:28:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Oct 2024 15:50:38 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
>>> at great deals.
>>
>> There was nothing I was interested but a list of the best bargains for
>> Amazon's Prime Big Deal Days had a lot of gamer stuff if you have
>> Prime.
>>
>> A robot lawn mower caught my eye but with a 9" swath I don't think it
>> would work out.
>
> It would be good for a lawn in Chatsworth, CA. :-)

Yeah, judging from Google maps the favorite landscaping material is sand.
I must haave been through Chatsworth on the 405 or 5 but it doesn't stand
out in my mind.

According to Fitbit mowing my lawn with a push mower is good for three
miles or so. It invariably scores the time as 'outdoor bike'. My theory is
the algorithm sees motion and an elevated heart rate but not the arm/wrist
motion from walking.

rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 06:28:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Oct 2024 15:50:38 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I take my hat off to gamers, because Newegg et al provide us with gear
>>>> at great deals.
>>>
>>> There was nothing I was interested but a list of the best bargains for
>>> Amazon's Prime Big Deal Days had a lot of gamer stuff if you have
>>> Prime.
>>>
>>> A robot lawn mower caught my eye but with a 9" swath I don't think it
>>> would work out.
>>
>> It would be good for a lawn in Chatsworth, CA. :-)
>
> Yeah, judging from Google maps the favorite landscaping material is sand.
> I must haave been through Chatsworth on the 405 or 5 but it doesn't stand
> out in my mind.

You don't remember the character named "Chatsworth" on "Dobie Gillis"? :-)

> According to Fitbit mowing my lawn with a push mower is good for three
> miles or so. It invariably scores the time as 'outdoor bike'. My theory is
> the algorithm sees motion and an elevated heart rate but not the arm/wrist
> motion from walking.

Our family friends in Chatsworth were fairly well to do, a very nice house.
With a back yard that was maybe 20' x 20'.

--
A copy of the universe is not what is required of art; one of the damned
things is ample.
-- Rebecca West

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 15:53:44 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> You don't remember the character named "Chatsworth" on "Dobie Gillis"?

Not really. I mostly remember Maynard G. Krebs. I aspired to being a
beatnik, definitely not a Dobie Gillis.

> Our family friends in Chatsworth were fairly well to do, a very nice
> house.
> With a back yard that was maybe 20' x 20'.

One of my nephews married a girl from San Francisco. My mother went out
for the wedding and returned amazed at what well to do meant in SF. iirc
the house was one of those deals with the garage under the house.

We weren't well to do by any stretch but we had a rose garden, a rock
garden, a vegetable garden, elm, maple, and pine trees plus a lot of lawn
for me to mow.

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:57 this Friday (GMT):
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> On 4 Oct 2024 05:22:19 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> Linux wasn't any better with xorg.conf and the rest.
>>
>> On Linux, they are all text files. Not only can you understand their
>> contents, you can use diff between different versions to see what has
>> changed, and copy/paste accordingly.
>
> One issue, however, is that an application can search a number of paths to
> find a configuration: /etc/, /usr/share, /usr/lib, and the user's HOME or
> HOME/.config or HOME/.local.
>
> About as silly as the Redundant Registry!

I think it's more so the sysadmin can define a global default if the
users haven't?
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
>Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:57 this Friday (GMT):
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>> On 4 Oct 2024 05:22:19 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux wasn't any better with xorg.conf and the rest.
>>>
>>> On Linux, they are all text files. Not only can you understand their
>>> contents, you can use diff between different versions to see what has
>>> changed, and copy/paste accordingly.
>>
>> One issue, however, is that an application can search a number of paths to
>> find a configuration: /etc/, /usr/share, /usr/lib, and the user's HOME or
>> HOME/.config or HOME/.local.
>>
>> About as silly as the Redundant Registry!
>
>I think it's more so the sysadmin can define a global default if the
>users haven't?

This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
not running M$.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 10/3/2024 7:06 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:39:05 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Face facts: the whole planet has 30 years of MS Office knowledge and
>> experience ...
>
> No it hasn’t. The entire installed base of Microsoft Windows (the only
> significant market for Office) has never exceeded about 1.2 billion.

Another bogus stat.

Office alone has an estimated 1.2B to 1.6B users right now.

> And the world population is currently about 6× that.

babble babble... Total population is irrelevant. What's the population
of students and business users between 16 and 65? That's who used and
is still using MS Office for the past 3 decades.

> Think about it: Microsoft’s market has remained stagnant over about the
> last decade,

The info is out there, and simple Google queries will reveal it.

1) "The number of Teams users jumped from 20 million in 2019 to 115
million in 2020."

2)
April 2022: 345M paid seats of Office 365
April 2023: 382M paid seats of Office 365

3)
-------------------------------
MS Revenue Employees
FY $B Chg K Chg
-------------------------------
2021 168.1 18% 181 11%
2022 198.3 18% 221 22%
2023 211.9 7% 221 0%
-------------------------------

That's a lot of 'stagnation' from 2022 to 2023.

I note the prescience of GuhNoo/Linux idiots is a wonder to behold.

> while the world has continued to add about that many people
> again to its entire population.

Can I get a "Microsoft is dying!"?

> That’s how irrelevant Microsoft is to the needs of most of the world.

You can post all the ignorance and stupidity you want about MS being
irrelevant to most of the world, but you'll always be wrong, ie:

"Microsoft: The Enduring Tech Superstar"
https://www.investing.com/academy/statistics/microsoft-facts/

> And that’s why Microsoft is increasingly resorting to rentware/adware
> tactics to try to grow its revenues. And prop up its share price.

Good. They're a public corporation. That's what they should do.

You 'advocates' can suffer with your GuhNoo crapware and LibreOffice all
your lives. 96% of the world refuses to debase themselves.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>>Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:57 this Friday (GMT):
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>>> On 4 Oct 2024 05:22:19 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Linux wasn't any better with xorg.conf and the rest.
>>>>
>>>> On Linux, they are all text files. Not only can you understand their
>>>> contents, you can use diff between different versions to see what has
>>>> changed, and copy/paste accordingly.
>>>
>>> One issue, however, is that an application can search a number of paths to
>>> find a configuration: /etc/, /usr/share, /usr/lib, and the user's HOME or
>>> HOME/.config or HOME/.local.
>>>
>>> About as silly as the Redundant Registry!
>>
>>I think it's more so the sysadmin can define a global default if the
>>users haven't?
>
>
> This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
> consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
> tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
> with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
> point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
> beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
> not running M$.

Powershell isn't very good IMO, the syntax is completely different from
almost any other kind of terminal and the blue/yellow feels off to me.
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candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>
>> This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
>> consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
>> tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
>> with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
>> point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
>> beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
>> not running M$.
>
> Powershell isn't very good IMO, the syntax is completely different from
> almost any other kind of terminal and the blue/yellow feels off to me.

I agree about the syntax. If you are a Windows fanatic, you'll get used to
it.

I am used to bash (and sh), and have trouble doing anything with Powershell
that I cannot Google.

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Women do laundry every couple of days. A man will wear every article
of clothing he owns, including his surgical pants that were hip about eight
years ago, before he will do his laundry. When he is finally out of clothes,
he will wear a dirty sweatshirt inside out, rent a U-Haul and take his mountain
of clothes to the laundromat. Men always expect to meet beautiful women at
the laundromat. This is a myth.

On 2024-10-09 12:00 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:57 this Friday (GMT):
>>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>>>> On 4 Oct 2024 05:22:19 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux wasn't any better with xorg.conf and the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Linux, they are all text files. Not only can you understand their
>>>>> contents, you can use diff between different versions to see what has
>>>>> changed, and copy/paste accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> One issue, however, is that an application can search a number of paths to
>>>> find a configuration: /etc/, /usr/share, /usr/lib, and the user's HOME or
>>>> HOME/.config or HOME/.local.
>>>>
>>>> About as silly as the Redundant Registry!
>>>
>>> I think it's more so the sysadmin can define a global default if the
>>> users haven't?
>>
>>
>> This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
>> consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
>> tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
>> with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
>> point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
>> beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
>> not running M$.
>
>
> Powershell isn't very good IMO, the syntax is completely different from
> almost any other kind of terminal and the blue/yellow feels off to me.

I find it incredibly unintuitive, but I will be the first to admit that
it is an insanely powerful tool.

--
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Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 20:19 this Wednesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>>
>>> This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
>>> consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
>>> tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
>>> with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
>>> point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
>>> beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
>>> not running M$.
>>
>> Powershell isn't very good IMO, the syntax is completely different from
>> almost any other kind of terminal and the blue/yellow feels off to me.
>
> I agree about the syntax. If you are a Windows fanatic, you'll get used to
> it.
>
> I am used to bash (and sh), and have trouble doing anything with Powershell
> that I cannot Google.

Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
I have to use Windows.
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:00:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
> I have to use Windows.

It was an attempt to unify Windows Script Host, WMI, the MMC snap-ins and
a bunch of other interfaces and succeeded. I've never learned it and set
the Windows Terminal default back to cmd. It's there if I'm following some
cookbook.

candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 20:19 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>
>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:28 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>>>
>>>> This gets into why people would put up with M$ Winblows, the
>>>> consistency of results, but they don't even realize that Windows has
>>>> tricked-out shit, too, they don't know what PowerShell is. People
>>>> with awareness of the software would likely choose Linux, at this
>>>> point, because Microsoft has simply gone to the Nth degree, it's
>>>> beyond bloated, I have a decent system but it benefits greatly from
>>>> not running M$.
>>>
>>> Powershell isn't very good IMO, the syntax is completely different from
>>> almost any other kind of terminal and the blue/yellow feels off to me.
>>
>> I agree about the syntax. If you are a Windows fanatic, you'll get used to
>> it.
>>
>> I am used to bash (and sh), and have trouble doing anything with Powershell
>> that I cannot Google.
>
> Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
> I have to use Windows.

I'm a lot more proficient in cmd/batch-files than Powershell.

--
"If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything."
-- A. L.

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>>> I am used to bash (and sh), and have trouble doing anything with Powershell
>>> that I cannot Google.
>>
>> Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
>> I have to use Windows.
>
>I'm a lot more proficient in cmd/batch-files than Powershell.

Just google what you're trying to do, and use the PowerShell syntax
their documentation tells you about. To me it's about the same as
something with Linux, in terms of how I find out about it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>candycanearter07 wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>>
>>>> I am used to bash (and sh), and have trouble doing anything with Powershell
>>>> that I cannot Google.
>>>
>>> Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
>>> I have to use Windows.
>>
>>I'm a lot more proficient in cmd/batch-files than Powershell.
>
>Just google what you're trying to do, and use the PowerShell syntax
>their documentation tells you about. To me it's about the same as
>something with Linux, in terms of how I find out about it.

Sorry, I overanalyzed there a bit.

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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 21:47 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:00:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Windows Power users probably like it. I just prefer using cmd when
>> I have to use Windows.
>
> It was an attempt to unify Windows Script Host, WMI, the MMC snap-ins and
> a bunch of other interfaces and succeeded. I've never learned it and set
> the Windows Terminal default back to cmd. It's there if I'm following some
> cookbook.

That explains it.
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