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* GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Chris Ahlstrom
`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1John Ames
 |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 ||`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1John Ames
 || +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 || |+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1John Ames
 || |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || ||`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 || |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1TJ
 || | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1-hh
 || |  |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 || |  | +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Physfitfreak
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 || |  |  | +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1rbowman
 || |  |  | ||+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  |  | ||`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | || `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Carlos E.R.
 || |  |  | ||  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | ||  |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Carlos E.R.
 || |  |  | ||  ||+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
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 || |  |  | ||  ||`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | ||  |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  |  | ||  | +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | ||  | `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Charlie Gibbs
 || |  |  | ||  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  |  | ||   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1chrisv
 || |  |  | ||   |+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 || |  |  | ||   |`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  |  | ||   `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 || |  |  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 || |  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 || `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1D
 |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Chris Ahlstrom
 | `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1John Ames
 +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Joel
 |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Charlie Gibbs
 | +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 | |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1chrisv
 | | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1186282@ud0s4.net
 | |  +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1chrisv
 | |   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Farley Flud
 | |   |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Joel
 | |   ||`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 | |   ||+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Diego Garcia
 | |   ||+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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 | |   || | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   || |  +* Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)Lars Poulsen
 | |   || |  |+- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)Andrzej Matuch
 | |   || |  |`- Re: GIMP (and digiKam and other photo management programs)rbowman
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 | |   || |    `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   || |     `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Charlie Gibbs
 | |   || |      `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   || `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
 | |   ||  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | |   |+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lem Novantotto
 | |   |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)Lars Poulsen
 | |   | +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)Carlos E.R.
 | |   | +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | |   | |`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)Lars Poulsen
 | |   | `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)-hh
 | |   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Computer Nerd Kev
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 | |   | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
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 | |   |   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   |   |+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Computer Nerd Kev
 | |   |   |`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1D
 | |   |   | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   |   |  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Charlie Gibbs
 | |   |   |   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | |   |   |   |`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Chris Ahlstrom
 | |   |   |   +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Andrzej Matuch
 | |   |   |   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1D
 | |   |   |    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Charlie Gibbs
 | |   |   |    |+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
 | |   |   |    |+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1D
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 | |   |   |    ||   +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Lars Poulsen
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 | |   |   |    ||   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1The Natural Philosopher
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 | |   |   `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Carlos E.R.
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 | `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Carlos E.R.
 `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1Chris Ahlstrom

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Subject: Re: Time machine backups
From: D
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Time machine backups
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2025-01-07, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> Bought a 4TB external USB/NVME device for my workstation.
>> Installed Samba and configured it to use the "fruit"
>> module to offer up a Time Machine share for the
>> Mac Studio. (Also using it with Timeshift on the
>> workstation itself, but that part was easier.)
>>
>> (Backups are good; automated versioned backups are better.)
>
> I have setup "time machine" backups on two of my servers, using rsync to
> a local external drive, but I have not figured out how to do it to a
> Samba share. On the local external drive, using ext4 file system, hard
> links make it very space efficient, but I don't think you can do that
> with a Samba mounted remote drive. Any hints? Do you run the rsync on
> the file server, so that you can do the hard links on the backup drive's
> ext4 file system while the backup server sees its production client as
> the remote Samba mount?
>
> And is there a way to use a cheap remote "storage box" that is only
> accessible as a Samba NAS as the versioned storage medium with
> similarly good storage efficiency?
>

My current backup system is rsync over ssh and tor. I've used it
successfully between two countries about 800 km apart. Come to think of
it, even longer.

I also use hardlinks to save space, and I run a 60 day sliding window on
the server to keep the last 60 days of backups. It works great.

During the christmas holidays I've checked out restic. I am very happy
about the result and I'm thinking about retiring my own home cooked backup
script I've used for 10-15 years in favour of restic.

What I like about it is that:

1. It's a simple go executable, I just drop in on the linux system and off
you go. All batteries included.

2. Works over sftp, so I don't need anything on the server.

3. Has built in deduplication and like rsync, transmits only unique data.
I do a full backup when visiting my backup server, and then do
differentials when travelling and works beautifully.

If you are curious, here's the link: https://restic.readthedocs.io/ .

Oh, and in terms of NAS and smb, I use an old laptop as the backup server,
and I mount my NAS (2 x 4 TB disks) in fstab at boot. When I backup, I
I have my backup repository under /mnt/NAS/backup, so the data travels
over sftp to the backup server, and then rests peacefully on my smb mount.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: D
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/7/25 2:47 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-01-07, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> No amount of political will can solve the coming shortages, because
>>>> that's not where the will is being applied. It's all going toward
>>>
>>> This is incorrect. Shortages, and lack of political will, makes for
>>> excellent opportunities for political entrepreneurs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, these people often do not have the common good in mind.
>>
>>>> increasing our population beyond the ability of science to provide,
>>>> and ensuring that technological advances will never catch up with
>>>> ever-increasing demand. (Besides, shortages drive prices up, which
>>>> is good for The Economy.)
>>>
>>> This has been said since at least the 1800s, and has been equally wrong
>>> every single time. We have not even started to farm the seas and space.
>>> There are enormous areas available for farming on the planet, limitless
>>> energy, and NASA has proven that we're seeing global greening. Do not
>>> worry about increasing population.
>>>
>>> In fact, if anything, population is stagnating. So throw away the
>>> mainstream media and enjoy life. We've never had it better, and we'll
>>> have it better still! =)
>>
>> I hope you're right. Most governments are quite alarmed at signs that
>> population growth is showing signs of slowing, and are doing their best
>> to push it back up. Canada's soon-to-be-ex-prime minister managed to
>> double immigration, to nearly 500,000 people per year (multiply by 10
>> to scale it to U.S. proportions). Some of these people were just dumped
>> onto the streets of Toronto with no place to go, having served their
>> purpose of getting the numbers up. Meanwhile, last I heard there were
>> still 50 communities in the country without drinking water. Priorities...
>
>
> The first impulse is to blame the US border problem on
> Joe/socialists trying to import lots of people who will
> vote for them. However most 'Mexicans' are relatively
> conservative Catholics and those from further south
> have had very bad experiences with 'communists'. They
> are not gonna be the next leftist slave class.
>
> What they are is the fill-in for native-born Americans
> who aren't borning many or any kiddies themselves.
> The problem exists in the EU as well, and is worst in
> Japan and Korea. Given the option, a LOT of women will
> not have many or any children. This ages the overall
> pop rather quickly. So, gotta start importing labor,
> esp for the Shit Jobs. Downside, this keeps diluting
> yer native culture and eventually You become Them.
>
> The Taliban seem to have solved this - give women
> no options but to be breeders. General wealth is
> also not high enough, so kids become yer support
> army.
>
> In the USA it is poor politics to SAY you need to
> import foreign labor (we've seen this attitude
> in play just the last week). In other nations
> the notion is more politically acceptable.
>
> Some imagine robots doing the shit work ... but despite
> the hype I don't see General Purpose robots any time
> soon. Yer human pop will still keep declining until
> even the robots have nothing to do but maintain the
> other robots.
>
> Read "R.U.R." (Capek 1920) for fun.
>

I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to
be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office
jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of
fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all
day.

Everyone wins! =D

Yes, you may call me an optimist as an insult if you wish. I am an
optimist, so deal with it. ;)

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 08/01/2025 10:24, D wrote:
> I think robots and automation will save the day. They don't even have to
> be automating/saving elderly care, they can automate/save menial office
> jobs, and those workers can then move into elderly care instead of
> fiddling around with meaningless powerpoints and excel spreadsheets all
> day.
>
> Everyone wins! =D

That doesn't solve the debt crisis. Somehow all the debts of the past
have to be repaid with taxes from today. If there are no people working,
what do you tax instead?

--
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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On 07/01/2025 22:03, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> What the fuck are you talking about? What structures? That's bullshit,
>> rightwing propaganda.
>
> No, Carlos, telling the world that we will all be under water unless we
> give lots of money to some cabal of elites is what's propaganda and
> complete bullshit.

Yes.
The impact of a putative net zero campaign will massively outweigh a 1
°C rise and a sea level rise of four inches.

In both cost and environmental destruction

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doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> He's also done some racist posts;

So what?
So have you.
--
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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On 08/01/2025 10:16, D wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, -hh wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/25 5:35 PM, chrisv wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adios. You've been down this road before.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOAUsvVhgsU
>>>
>>> Here's an excellant documentary on climate change.  An hour and 20
>>> minutes of quality information.
>>
>> Where its so-called "quality" is that its already been debunked:
>>
>> <https://skepticalscience.com/climate-the-movie-a-hot-mess-of-cold-myths.html>
>>
>>
>>> I'd bet money that Chris A won't watch it.
>>
>> Why waste 80 minutes watching something when a 3 minute Google search
>> affords one the salient insight on its lack of veracity?
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Actually, that is the best proof you can find that the movie is on to
> something. If it would be mainstream, no one would bother writing a
> line, or if it would be made by the climate royalty, it would be hyped
> by CNN & Co.
>
> Thank you, now I will definitely watch it! =)

If anyone is in a position to debunk skeptical science it is me.

The very first post I made using a different than usual nom de guerre,
criticising not climate change, but renewable energy, Skepticalscience
informed me and the public, to my surprise that I was a 'well known
climate denier ' whose ideas had 'already been debunked by skeptical
science'.

Skepticalscience.com is a well known climate denial site pushing fake
information to support a false climate narrative. It isn't skeptical and
it certainly isn't sciencee. It is pure AgitProp left wing propaganda

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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> He's also done some racist posts;
>
> So what?
> So have you.

Show me such a post or stfu.

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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>
>> So what?
>> So have you.
>
> Show me such a post or stfu.
>
Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.

That is someone who thinks in terms of race. And discriminates on the
grounds of 'race'

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diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
― Groucho Marx

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>>
>>> So what?
>>> So have you.
>>
>> Show me such a post or stfu.
>>
> Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.
>
> That is someone who thinks in terms of race.

Ahhhh, that old canard.

"You called that white man a racist, therefore you are racist."

Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're thinking
in terms of *bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole group of people
based on race.

> And discriminates on the grounds of 'race'.

As is deeply etched in the history of America.

--
Chapter 1
The story so far:
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot
of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
-- Douglas Adams, HHGG #2, (The Restaurant at the End of the Universe).

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 2025-01-08 05:00, D wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> On 2025-01-07 13:44, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Adios. You've been down this road before.
>>
>> You've just demonstrated the general idiocy of the woke: agree with
>> whatever retarded thing I have to say or I will block you.
>>
>> Just once in your life, be a man.
>
> Please Andrzej, note that Chris is an indoctrinated, 100% pure bred
> socialist. He will never stray from the woke narrative. I've blocked him
> a long time ago, and so should you for your peace of mind.

Agreed. He will remain in my filter for as long as I am using this
distribution.

--
CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: -hh
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On 1/8/25 5:16 AM, D wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025, -hh wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/25 5:35 PM, chrisv wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adios. You've been down this road before.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOAUsvVhgsU
>>>
>>> Here's an excellant documentary on climate change.  An hour and 20
>>> minutes of quality information.
>>
>> Where its so-called "quality" is that its already been debunked:
>>
>> <https://skepticalscience.com/climate-the-movie-a-hot-mess-of-cold-
>> myths.html>
>>
>>
>>> I'd bet money that Chris A won't watch it.
>>
>> Why waste 80 minutes watching something when a 3 minute Google search
>> affords one the salient insight on its lack of veracity?
>>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Actually, that is the best proof you can find that the movie is on to
> something. If it would be mainstream, no one would bother writing a
> line, or if it would be made by the climate royalty, it would be hyped
> by CNN & Co.
>
> Thank you, now I will definitely watch it! =)

So let us know then when you've watched it, and have prepared a written
response to each of the points listed in the video vs URL above which
determines what the objective truth is between the two. Make sure to
cite reputable 3rd party sources in your footnotes & bibliography.

For example,

<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgsdO3sXIAA_g0C?format=jpg&name=large>

-hh

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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On 08/01/2025 13:59, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're thinking
> in terms of*bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole group of people
> based on race.

I'll leave that to the coloured folks who see themselves as distinct and
oppressed by 'the white folks'

'White privilege' is racist. 'Black lives matter' is racist. As are the
black police association and the black lawyer association. And
fundamental Islam.

The list is endless.

--
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 08/01/2025 13:59, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're thinking
>> in terms of*bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole group of people
>> based on race.
>
> I'll leave that to the coloured folks who see themselves as distinct and
> oppressed by 'the white folks'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzlLi5jX_C4

Sam Cooke [What a] Wonderful World

A more complete view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u6g0POvo0

Devo - "Beautiful World"

> 'White privilege' is racist. 'Black lives matter' is racist. As are the
> black police association and the black lawyer association. And
> fundamental Islam.
>
> The list is endless.

You're racist for even talking about it! :-D

"Coloured folks?"

--
"What happened to the crewman?"
"The M-5 computer needed a new power source, the crewman merely got in
the way."
-- Kirk and Dr. Richard Daystrom, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4731.3.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 2025-01-08 06:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> He's also done some racist posts;
>
> So what?
> So have you.

Pointing out reality is racist to effeminate clowns like Chris.

--
CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:27:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>
> "Coloured folks?"

Who came up with BIPOC? Or NAACP for that matter? By the time I was a kid
'colored' was out and 'negro' was in. Now we're back to 'people of color'?
That means they're colored, right?

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:27:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>>
>> "Coloured folks?"
>
> Who came up with BIPOC? Or NAACP for that matter? By the time I was a kid
> 'colored' was out and 'negro' was in. Now we're back to 'people of color'?
> That means they're colored, right?

Why don't you walk up to a "colored man" and call them that? A good test!

--
The sheep died in the wool.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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On 08/01/2025 16:27, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> On 08/01/2025 13:59, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Nah, we're not thinking in terms of race with that accusation, we're thinking
>>> in terms of*bigotry* as expressed by denigration of a whole group of people
>>> based on race.
>>
>> I'll leave that to the coloured folks who see themselves as distinct and
>> oppressed by 'the white folks'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzlLi5jX_C4
>
> Sam Cooke [What a] Wonderful World
>
> A more complete view:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u6g0POvo0
>
> Devo - "Beautiful World"
>
>> 'White privilege' is racist. 'Black lives matter' is racist. As are the
>> black police association and the black lawyer association. And
>> fundamental Islam.
>>
>> The list is endless.
>
> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>
> "Coloured folks?"
>
yep. in that instance i am.

But I didnt start the conversation. If you want to see the world in
racial terms ,I would merely point out that the vast majority of
racists are in fact 'non white'

--
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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On 08/01/2025 17:04, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:27:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>>
>> "Coloured folks?"
>
> Who came up with BIPOC? Or NAACP for that matter? By the time I was a kid
> 'colored' was out and 'negro' was in. Now we're back to 'people of color'?
> That means they're colored, right?

I haven't a clue what we are back to frankly. Normally I don't even
really notice unless someone rams it down my throat.

--
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
From: The Natural Philosop
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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On 08/01/2025 18:05, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:27:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>>>
>>> "Coloured folks?"
>>
>> Who came up with BIPOC? Or NAACP for that matter? By the time I was a kid
>> 'colored' was out and 'negro' was in. Now we're back to 'people of color'?
>> That means they're colored, right?
>
> Why don't you walk up to a "colored man" and call them that? A good test!
>
I call them 'mate'

--
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 2025-01-08 08:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>>
>>> So what?
>>> So have you.
>>
>> Show me such a post or stfu.
>>
> Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.
>
> That is someone who thinks in terms of race. And discriminates on the
> grounds of 'race'

The worst part is that people who are objectively faggots, also known as
"the left," are pushing the narrative that there is no race but the
human race. With that in mind, how the heck is it even possible to be a
racist? Since he is dim-witted in addition to taking it up the ass, he
believes in two contradictory truths simultaneously: everyone is a
racist but there is no such thing as race.

--
CrudeSausage
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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>On 2025-01-08 08:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>>>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>>>
>>>> So what?
>>>> So have you.
>>>
>>> Show me such a post or stfu.
>>>
>> Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.
>>
>> That is someone who thinks in terms of race. And discriminates on the
>> grounds of 'race'
>
>The worst part is that people who are objectively faggots, also known as
>"the left," are pushing the narrative that there is no race but the
>human race. With that in mind, how the heck is it even possible to be a
>racist? Since he is dim-witted in addition to taking it up the ass, he
>believes in two contradictory truths simultaneously: everyone is a
>racist but there is no such thing as race.

What's so bad about taking it up the ass?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On 2025-01-08 14:00, Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-08 08:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>>>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>>>>
>>>>> So what?
>>>>> So have you.
>>>>
>>>> Show me such a post or stfu.
>>>>
>>> Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.
>>>
>>> That is someone who thinks in terms of race. And discriminates on the
>>> grounds of 'race'
>>
>> The worst part is that people who are objectively faggots, also known as
>> "the left," are pushing the narrative that there is no race but the
>> human race. With that in mind, how the heck is it even possible to be a
>> racist? Since he is dim-witted in addition to taking it up the ass, he
>> believes in two contradictory truths simultaneously: everyone is a
>> racist but there is no such thing as race.
>
>
> What's so bad about taking it up the ass?

You have a right to enjoy it.

--
CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 08/01/2025 18:05, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 11:27:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're racist for even talking about it! :-D
>>>>
>>>> "Coloured folks?"
>>>
>>> Who came up with BIPOC? Or NAACP for that matter? By the time I was a kid
>>> 'colored' was out and 'negro' was in. Now we're back to 'people of color'?
>>> That means they're colored, right?
>>
>> Why don't you walk up to a "colored man" and call them that? A good test!
>>
> I call them 'mate'

Good!

--
You will be married within a year.

Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 13:17:03 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
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> On 08/01/2025 12:19, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On 07/01/2025 21:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> He's also done some racist posts;
>>>
>>> So what?
>>> So have you.
>>
>> Show me such a post or stfu.
>>
> Anyone who says someone is racist, is a racist.
>
> That is someone who thinks in terms of race. And discriminates on the
> grounds of 'race'

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrap

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Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>> No, Carlos, telling the world that we will all be under water unless we
>> give lots of money to some cabal of elites is what's propaganda and
>> complete bullshit.

Worse yet are the mandates that take away our freedoms.

Everyone knows that they want to be able to shut off our cars
remotely, to restrict our travel freedoms, right? And control when we
run our air conditions, and what we eat, and all sorts of other
things. Utter tyranny, is the plan.

>Yes.
>The impact of a putative net zero campaign will massively outweigh a 1
>°C rise and a sea level rise of four inches.
>
>In both cost and environmental destruction

I agree. There is no answer to the problems with mining. There is no
answer to the problems from being utterly dependant upon communist
China for everything from minerals to the completed car or solar panel
or wind turbine or power transformer.

The West takes a massive hit, while China laughs and builds a hundred
coal plants every year. They are happy to take our money and make
everything for us, until we are as dependant and as weak as babies.

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