On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>
> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
> don't get favored status?

That's a good point. Even her complexion is Indian, not black. As I keep
saying, she's almost lighter skinned than I am.

And, by the way Joel, I am, for now, self-identifying as black. So I'll take
any insult you direct at my person as a racist slur and will demand an
immediate apology and substantial reparations. Tread lightly.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-07-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
> On 2024-07-01 10:58 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>>
>> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
>> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
>> don't get favored status?
>
> +1
>
> She understood that she can go further in life if she identified as
> negro, so that's what she did.

If you see a picture of her with her mother, her complexion (and facial
features) are almost the same. I would mistake Kamala for an Indian much
sooner than a black. I'm guessing the other woman in this picture is her
sister — and her skin color is a little darker (more like her father's).

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/screen-shot-2020-08-17-at-1-14-21-pm-1597684473.png

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2024-07-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-01 9:54 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-07-01, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 10:52:53 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the reasons stated, she's an attorney and the vice president, how
>>>>>> would she get there without being able to complete sentences?
>>>>>
>>>>> Willie Brown?
>>>>
>>>> Yep. She sure didn't get there with her intelligence.
>>>
>>> So you're a racist and sexist, you asshole.
>>
>> Prove that he is a racist and a sexist.
>
>I'm a realist. And, by the way, Kamala Harris' mother was Indian (from
>India) and her father was half African-Jamaican and half Irish-Jamaican. So am
>I "racist" against Indians? Am I a "racist" against Jamaicans? Am I a
>"racist" against Africans? Am I "racist" against the Irish? Which is it?
>
>The answer is I'm not a racist at all. If a white woman (or man) spewed the
>idiotic "word salads" that Kamala Harris spews, Joel would laugh at her. But
>since he's a pro-black racist (and he doesn't realize Kamala isn't even
>primarily black) he calls out anyone who points out her stupidity a
>"racist."
>
>Joel needs to learn how use his brain, and escape from his knee-jerk,
>emotionally driven bullshit. In other words he needs to get a clue.

Bzzt, Kamala is OK. She could do the job. Get over your bias.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>>
>> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
>> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
>> don't get favored status?
>
>That's a good point. Even her complexion is Indian, not black. As I keep
>saying, she's almost lighter skinned than I am.
>
>And, by the way Joel, I am, for now, self-identifying as black. So I'll take
>any insult you direct at my person as a racist slur and will demand an
>immediate apology and substantial reparations. Tread lightly.

Whatever, white guy.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 07:44:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Fortunately, President Biden shows no signs of Alzheimer’s disease.
>> At news conferences, he references new events and obviously creates
>> new memories efficiently. He speaks slowly and pauses to find words
>> like others with benign age-associated memory impairment. These
>> issues are exacerbated by a chronic speech impediment. Biden has
>> struggled with stuttering since childhood, and remnants of the
>> condition have long been apparent in his speech.
>
> Bring on the spin doctors. After the initial almost honest assessment by
> the MSM they got the memo from Obama that replacing Biden at this stage is
> impossible. In fact they DNC may have a virtual meeting before the
> convention to nominate him in order to amke the Ohio ballot. The
> narrative has to change to sharp as a tack Joe having a really bad day.
>
> He does seem to be able to create new memories like defeating Medicare.

I guess if Sleepy Joe doesn't sputter into non-existence, they'll trundle
him out there every day until the election (because he's sharp as a tack in
private, don't you know). I guess someone released something that says he's
"sharp" from 10 A.M. to 4 P.M. (like that's a good thing, but I think
there's a nap in the afternoon). I hope his "sharp as a tack" expertise
isn't required at 9 A.M. or 5 P.M.

I guess they should plan the next debate for somewhere between 10 A.M. and 4
P.M. (but they'll need to avoid his nap time, so it might be a little hard
to do). Maybe three 30 minute sessions so it won't be too taxing on him?

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-07-03, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 22:40:47 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Just whatever your agenda is is
>> right, automatically.
>
> https://dn790009.ca.archive.org/0/items/mightisrightragnarredbeard_201908/
> Might%20is%20Right%20-%20Ragnar%20Redbeard_text.pdf

Good grief, whatever that is it's taking forever to load in. What little
I've seen of the first few pages, it looks like it might a pagan "Thor"
religion type thing. I remember years ago I got in argument with someone who
believed in Thor. In the days before email, we exchanged letters with me
arguing for Christianity and he arguing arguing for "Thor-ism" or whatever
he called it. Ironically he quit after about three letters, said I was too
"mean." Never thought a so-called "warrior religion" dude, who talked about
how weakly Christians were, would whine his way off the stage like a wimp.
(I was nicer then than I am here, but still a teenager.)

(I just closed the link, it was still trying to come in, but it does look
kind of like that Odin religion crap.)

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 11:44:18 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:

> [Whites] created civilization.

Civilization was created in Mesopotamia, first by the Ubaidi, then by
their successors the Sumerians and later Semitic peoples.

On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 12:25:34 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Humans altogether "created civilization", you're using an arbitrary
> *definition* of civilization.

I have a book which defines “civilization” according to four specific
criteria:

* Urbanization
* Division of labour
* Metalworking
* Writing

The first place where all four came together was in Mesopotamia.

On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:04:40 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 7/1/2024 10:56 AM, Joel wrote:
>
>> I do appreciate white people, believe it or not.
>> They've done some unique and great things.
>
> some? Nearly ALL.

Roman numerals. The greatest mathematical achievement of Christian white
people.

On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 04:04:24 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Good grief, whatever that is it's taking forever to load in. What little
> I've seen of the first few pages, it looks like it might a pagan "Thor"
> religion type thing. I remember years ago I got in argument with someone
> who believed in Thor. In the days before email, we exchanged letters
> with me arguing for Christianity and he arguing arguing for "Thor-ism"
> or whatever he called it. Ironically he quit after about three letters,
> said I was too "mean." Never thought a so-called "warrior religion"
> dude, who talked about how weakly Christians were, would whine his way
> off the stage like a wimp. (I was nicer then than I am here, but still a
> teenager.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_Is_Right

The only dowmload I could find was the edition published by Wotansvolk/14
Words Press who added the introduction. Desmond (Redbeard) was a social
Darwinist but afaik not interested in pre-Christain Germanic religions per
se.

There is a saying in some circles 'Your God was nailed to a cross. My God
carries a hammer. Any questions?'

St. Boniface made a reputation for himself by chopping down Donar's Oak.
He didn't know when to quit and died a martyr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donar's_Oak

On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 03:33:44 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> The answer is I'm not a racist at all. If a white woman (or man) spewed
> the idiotic "word salads" that Kamala Harris spews, Joel would laugh at
> her. But since he's a pro-black racist (and he doesn't realize Kamala
> isn't even primarily black) he calls out anyone who points out her
> stupidity a "racist."

I wonder what Joel makes of Candace Owens ripping Kamala a new one?

On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 23:44:57 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Bzzt, Kamala is OK. She could do the job. Get over your bias.

"Man, can she ever do the job!"

Willie Brown

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> The answer is I'm not a racist at all. If a white woman (or man) spewed
>> the idiotic "word salads" that Kamala Harris spews, Joel would laugh at
>> her. But since he's a pro-black racist (and he doesn't realize Kamala
>> isn't even primarily black) he calls out anyone who points out her
>> stupidity a "racist."
>
>I wonder what Joel makes of Candace Owens ripping Kamala a new one?

I don't know who that is. What I know is that people don't become
vice president without being qualified to be president. She
campaigned in 2020 herself, Biden had to look at her qualifications
critically to choose her as a running mate, she was in the U.S. Senate
before this, she was in other positions, an attorney. Stop talking
about her like she's a caricature.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>>>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>>>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>>>
>>> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
>>> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
>>> don't get favored status?
>>
>>That's a good point. Even her complexion is Indian, not black. As I keep
>>saying, she's almost lighter skinned than I am.
>>
>>And, by the way Joel, I am, for now, self-identifying as black. So I'll take
>>any insult you direct at my person as a racist slur and will demand an
>>immediate apology and substantial reparations. Tread lightly.
>
> Whatever, white guy.

He sure can be a prick at times.

--
They have been at a great feast of languages, and stolen the scraps.
-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"

On 7/3/2024 1:48 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:04:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2024 10:56 AM, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> I do appreciate white people, believe it or not.
>>> They've done some unique and great things.
>>
>> some? Nearly ALL.
>
> Roman numerals. The greatest mathematical achievement of Christian white
> people.

Nosebones, lip plates and click languages: the greatest cultural
achievements of the negroid race.

On 7/2/2024 11:46 PM, Joel wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>>>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>>>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>>>
>>> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
>>> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
>>> don't get favored status?
>>
>> That's a good point. Even her complexion is Indian, not black. As I keep
>> saying, she's almost lighter skinned than I am.
>>
>> And, by the way Joel, I am, for now, self-identifying as black. So I'll take
>> any insult you direct at my person as a racist slur and will demand an
>> immediate apology and substantial reparations. Tread lightly.
>
>
> Whatever, white guy.

When your boyfriend said he was a woman, you accepted it. In fact, you
gobbled it right up...

In today's world, you are who and what you say you are.

If RonB (previously a straight White male) say's he's now a black
lesbian female, then he's a black lesbian female.

Got it?

Now get back in there and apologize and respect RonaB's pronouns and
gender and sexual identity.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 7/2/2024 11:46 PM, Joel wrote:
>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:12:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vice President Harris is half black and a woman, and that is the reason
>>>>> people talk about her like she's a child, even though she's the VICE
>>>>> PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. How is that not clear?
>>>>
>>>> Quarter black, if you look at her father's mixed ancestry. She is half
>>>> Tamil so why doesn't she identify as an Indian? Could it be that Indians
>>>> don't get favored status?
>>>
>>> That's a good point. Even her complexion is Indian, not black. As I keep
>>> saying, she's almost lighter skinned than I am.
>>>
>>> And, by the way Joel, I am, for now, self-identifying as black. So I'll take
>>> any insult you direct at my person as a racist slur and will demand an
>>> immediate apology and substantial reparations. Tread lightly.
>>
>> Whatever, white guy.
>
>When your boyfriend said he was a woman, you accepted it. In fact, you
>gobbled it right up...

I like trans women, I make no apology for that. They not only have
penises, but they are uniquely attractive to me as people, too. Not
to say cis women never are as attractive, but as a percentage, fewer
are to me. Then again, there are a lot more of them.

>In today's world, you are who and what you say you are.
>
>If RonB (previously a straight White male) say's he's now a black
>lesbian female, then he's a black lesbian female.
>
>Got it?
>
>Now get back in there and apologize and respect RonaB's pronouns and
>gender and sexual identity.

Heh.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:46:30 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 11:44:18 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> [Whites] created civilization.
>
> Civilization was created in Mesopotamia, first by the Ubaidi, then by
> their successors the Sumerians and later Semitic peoples.

Meanwhile in China, India, the Andes, and Mesoamerica...

'Civilization' implies a sedentary community dependent on agriculture. It
doesn't take long for that to devolve. Spengler thought a civilization was
the end phase of the culture that created it.

On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 06:32:14 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I don't know who that is. What I know is that people don't become vice
> president without being qualified to be president. She campaigned in
> 2020 herself, Biden had to look at her qualifications critically to
> choose her as a running mate, she was in the U.S. Senate before this,
> she was in other positions, an attorney. Stop talking about her like
> she's a caricature.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-04/skelton-california-
senator-kamala-harris-drops-out-presidential-race

Biden thought he needed a black woman. She identifies as a black woman.
Being well connected to the California Democratic machine was a plus.
There are a lot of votes in California.

On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:04:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2024 10:56 AM, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> I do appreciate white people, believe it or not.
>>> They've done some unique and great things.
>>
>> some? Nearly ALL.
>
> Roman numerals. The greatest mathematical achievement of Christian white
> people.

Er, I don't think the Romans were Christians when they came up with the
symbols. Arguably it was better than the sexagesimal notation.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>> I don't know who that is. What I know is that people don't become vice
>> president without being qualified to be president. She campaigned in
>> 2020 herself, Biden had to look at her qualifications critically to
>> choose her as a running mate, she was in the U.S. Senate before this,
>> she was in other positions, an attorney. Stop talking about her like
>> she's a caricature.
>
>https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-04/skelton-california-
>senator-kamala-harris-drops-out-presidential-race
>
>Biden thought he needed a black woman. She identifies as a black woman.
>Being well connected to the California Democratic machine was a plus.
>There are a lot of votes in California.

An interesting read. But it doesn't demonstrate that she's incapable
of being president. I know Joe Biden wouldn't pick her if she
couldn't do the job.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 05:48:56 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 12:04:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/1/2024 10:56 AM, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do appreciate white people, believe it or not.
>>>> They've done some unique and great things.
>>>
>>> some? Nearly ALL.
>>
>> Roman numerals. The greatest mathematical achievement of Christian white
>> people.
>
> Er, I don't think the Romans were Christians when they came up with the
> symbols. Arguably it was better than the sexagesimal notation.

Wtf? Some goofy MCXIV notation version base 60?

Of course, we have the base 128 notation used for big-endian data such as
MIDI values.

Anyway, Lawrence forgets about whities like Abel, Gauss, Fourier, Hilbert....

--
You have an unusual equipment for success. Be sure to use it properly.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 06:32:14 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> I don't know who that is. What I know is that people don't become vice
>> president without being qualified to be president. She campaigned in
>> 2020 herself, Biden had to look at her qualifications critically to
>> choose her as a running mate, she was in the U.S. Senate before this,
>> she was in other positions, an attorney. Stop talking about her like
>> she's a caricature.
>
> https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-04/skelton-california-
> senator-kamala-harris-drops-out-presidential-race
>
> Biden thought he needed a black woman. She identifies as a black woman.
> Being well connected to the California Democratic machine was a plus.
> There are a lot of votes in California.

How do you explain Dan Quayle? :-D

I know how to explain Dick Cheney. He initiated a search for Dubya's
VP choice, and ended up recommending himself, a singularly Machiavellian
move. :-D :-D :-D

--
It is easy to find fault, if one has that disposition. There was once a man
who, not being able to find any other fault with his coal, complained that
there were too many prehistoric toads in it.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

On 2024-07-02 10:32 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-07-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:53:17 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Texas violated international law. Biden simply restored order. If you
>>> don't like the migration, move to another planet.
>>
>>
>> Fuck international law.
>
> I know of no international law that ovverides the right of a country to
> protect its borders. I call bullshit on Joel's claim.

Joel seems to believe that the United Nations have power over the United
States.

--
@RabidPedagog

On 2024-07-02 10:40 p.m., Joel wrote:
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-02, RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-01 9:53 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When
>>>>> Texas takes action to try to stop the illegal aliens from flooding across
>>>>> the border, the Biden lying administration takes action to try stop them
>>>> >from stopping the illegal aliens.
>>>>
>>>> Texas violated international law. Biden simply restored order.
>>>
>>> Tried to. He wanted to defy the will of the people of Texas.
>>
>> What was the "international law" that Texas was supposedly violating? They
>> have aright to protect their citizens from a flood of deadbeat illegal
>> aliens? I call bullshit on Joel's so-called "international law" claim.
>> Specifically WHAT law, Joel?
>>
>>>> If
>>>> you don't like the migration, move to another planet.
>>>
>>> Until the migrants kill, rob or rape you, you don't care.
>>
>> Migration is not the same as an illegal alien invasion. Migration is orderly
>> and goes through specified procedures at specific entry points — where the
>> migrants are vetted so we don't get cartel thugs invading our country.
>>
>> There is also supposed to be a limit to the number of migrants entering our
>> country each year. Joel apparently runs completely on emotional hysteria and
>> is clueless about facts or logic.
>
>
> White supremacy-ism just fucks itself over, time and again. You
> invaded North America and wiped out the civilizations in it. Now you
> want to talk about border control. Just whatever your agenda is is
> right, automatically. Get over yourselves.

Europeans didn't wipe out the people indigenous to North America; they
were busy doing that themselves. What Europeans did is bring culture to
the savages who believes in slavery, in scalping their adversaries and
in constant warfare. The way they are depicted in movies nowadays is a
complete myth.

--
@RabidPedagog