Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>> processor.
>>>
>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>
>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>> assembled it. There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>> sold, at the time.
>No. It was not "higher end".

Wrong.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-17 10:39, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> On some computers (which would have cost you less) you can buy drives
>>>>>>>> that perfectly sit under the desktop:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.ca/Enclosure-Docking-Station-Readers-Compatible/dp/B0C33HS3RP/ref=asc_df_B0C33HS3RP/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=708007226763&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13265770567124847550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001547&hvtargid=pla-2190493457657&psc=1&mcid=5f9e3a8965ea37bc89aca8270bb63779&gad_source=1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://ca.macsales.com/shop/external-drives/owc-ministack>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Super neato, but my motherboard can already handle another NVMe or
>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>> Which is better in what measurable way?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's elegant.
>>>> Why? What makes it more "elegant"?
>>>
>>> It's just a piece of the computer, once installed. No wire.
>> So by that argument, an all-in-one is more "elegant" than having an
>> external monitor?
>
>
> No.

But you just defined elegance by lack of wires...

>
>
>> This looks pretty "elegant" to me:
>>
>> <https://www.owc.com/solutions/ministack-stx>
>>
>> Or this:
>>
>> <https://satechi.net/landing/new-stand-and-hub-m4-mac-mini>
>>
>> Remember: Thunderbolt literally IS PCIe...
>
>
> OK, but why not just have a real case, a real motherboard? Why the
> quirks?
What makes one more "real" than the other?

On 2024-12-17 10:41, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> So why spend $200 on Windows in the first place [instead of starting with Linux]?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's useful to have Winblows on a freshly built, state-of-the-art
>>>>> system - Linux lags a little in supporting fresh hardware.
>>>> I'm calling bullshit on that excuse.
>>>>
>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>
>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>> the installer properly.
>>
>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>
>
> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
> up, nerd.
You failed to find an installer that would boot.

That's not the same thing.

On 2024-12-17 10:43, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>> processor.
>>>>
>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>
>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>> assembled it. There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>> sold, at the time.
>> No. It was not "higher end".
>
>
> Wrong.
>

All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.

In 2010, Intel released:

29 processors with 4 cores.

Just two of them were i5s.

As well as:

16 processors with 6 cores.

4 processors with 8 cores.

None of those were i5s.

Face facts, snowflake.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On some computers (which would have cost you less) you can buy drives
>>>>>>>>> that perfectly sit under the desktop:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.ca/Enclosure-Docking-Station-Readers-Compatible/dp/B0C33HS3RP/ref=asc_df_B0C33HS3RP/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=708007226763&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13265770567124847550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001547&hvtargid=pla-2190493457657&psc=1&mcid=5f9e3a8965ea37bc89aca8270bb63779&gad_source=1>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://ca.macsales.com/shop/external-drives/owc-ministack>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Super neato, but my motherboard can already handle another NVMe or
>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>> Which is better in what measurable way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's elegant.
>>>>> Why? What makes it more "elegant"?
>>>>
>>>> It's just a piece of the computer, once installed. No wire.
>>> So by that argument, an all-in-one is more "elegant" than having an
>>> external monitor?
>>
>> No.
>
>But you just defined elegance by lack of wires...

But not by marrying different components to each other, creating a
fragile system.

>>> This looks pretty "elegant" to me:
>>>
>>> <https://www.owc.com/solutions/ministack-stx>
>>>
>>> Or this:
>>>
>>> <https://satechi.net/landing/new-stand-and-hub-m4-mac-mini>
>>>
>>> Remember: Thunderbolt literally IS PCIe...
>>
>> OK, but why not just have a real case, a real motherboard? Why the
>> quirks?
>What makes one more "real" than the other?

Expandability.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>>
>>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>>> the installer properly.
>>>
>>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>>
>> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
>> up, nerd.
>You failed to find an installer that would boot.
>
>That's not the same thing.

Idiot, there was nothing wrong with the USB disk, it didn't load the
Linux installer on my fresh hardware. Use your brain, if Apple didn't
replace it with their propaganda.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>> processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>
>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>> assembled it. There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>> sold, at the time.
>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>>
>> Wrong.
>
>All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
>
>In 2010, Intel released:
>
>29 processors with 4 cores.
>
>Just two of them were i5s.
>
>As well as:
>
>16 processors with 6 cores.
>
>4 processors with 8 cores.
>
>None of those were i5s.
>
>Face facts, snowflake.

<yawn>

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-17 11:52, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>>> processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>>> assembled it. There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>>> sold, at the time.
>>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>
>> All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
>>
>> In 2010, Intel released:
>>
>> 29 processors with 4 cores.
>>
>> Just two of them were i5s.
>>
>> As well as:
>>
>> 16 processors with 6 cores.
>>
>> 4 processors with 8 cores.
>>
>> None of those were i5s.
>>
>> Face facts, snowflake.
>
>
> <yawn>
>

Yeah... ...grokking facts would make a mind like yours tired.

On 2024-12-17 11:50, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> On some computers (which would have cost you less) you can buy drives
>>>>>>>>>> that perfectly sit under the desktop:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.ca/Enclosure-Docking-Station-Readers-Compatible/dp/B0C33HS3RP/ref=asc_df_B0C33HS3RP/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=708007226763&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13265770567124847550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001547&hvtargid=pla-2190493457657&psc=1&mcid=5f9e3a8965ea37bc89aca8270bb63779&gad_source=1>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://ca.macsales.com/shop/external-drives/owc-ministack>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Super neato, but my motherboard can already handle another NVMe or
>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>> Which is better in what measurable way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's elegant.
>>>>>> Why? What makes it more "elegant"?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just a piece of the computer, once installed. No wire.
>>>> So by that argument, an all-in-one is more "elegant" than having an
>>>> external monitor?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> But you just defined elegance by lack of wires...
>
>
> But not by marrying different components to each other, creating a
> fragile system.

So then an external monitor is "fragile"?

>
>
>>>> This looks pretty "elegant" to me:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.owc.com/solutions/ministack-stx>
>>>>
>>>> Or this:
>>>>
>>>> <https://satechi.net/landing/new-stand-and-hub-m4-mac-mini>
>>>>
>>>> Remember: Thunderbolt literally IS PCIe...
>>>
>>> OK, but why not just have a real case, a real motherboard? Why the
>>> quirks?
>> What makes one more "real" than the other?
>
>
> Expandability.
Which I've already addressed.

On 2024-12-17 11:51, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>>>> the installer properly.
>>>>
>>>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>>>
>>> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
>>> up, nerd.
>> You failed to find an installer that would boot.
>>
>> That's not the same thing.
>
>
> Idiot, there was nothing wrong with the USB disk, it didn't load the
> Linux installer on my fresh hardware. Use your brain, if Apple didn't
> replace it with their propaganda.

Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...

On 12/17/24 1:51 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-12-17 10:43, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>> processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>
>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>> sold, at the time.
>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>>
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>
> All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
>
> In 2010, Intel released:
>
> 29 processors with 4 cores.
>
> Just two of them were i5s.
>
> As well as:
>
> 16 processors with 6 cores.
>
> 4 processors with 8 cores.
>
> None of those were i5s.
>
> Face facts, snowflake.

Joel doesn't realize that when I was stating about how the 2010 Intel
lineup...

[quote]
Well, back in that era, the i5 was a newly designed/designated CPU, but
it wasn't "higher end" because the i7 and Xeons were already out by then
too, and Intel's corporate roadmap was that Xeons was for workstations
and the i7 targeted the business and high-end consumer markets, which
left the i5 for mainstream consumer and i3 for entry-level consumers.
[/quote]

That I was paraphrasing from Intel's literature descriptions on Wiki.
As such, its not my claim (nor Alan's) that the i5 was just "mainstream"
from 2009 to present.

-hh

On 12/17/24 3:35 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-12-17 11:50, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On some computers (which would have cost you less) you can
>>>>>>>>>>> buy drives
>>>>>>>>>>> that perfectly sit under the desktop:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.ca/Enclosure-Docking-Station-Readers-
>>>>>>>>>>> Compatible/dp/B0C33HS3RP/ref=asc_df_B0C33HS3RP/?
>>>>>>>>>>> tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=708007226763&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13265770567124847550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001547&hvtargid=pla-2190493457657&psc=1&mcid=5f9e3a8965ea37bc89aca8270bb63779&gad_source=1>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ca.macsales.com/shop/external-drives/owc-ministack>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Super neato, but my motherboard can already handle another
>>>>>>>>>> NVMe or
>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>> Which is better in what measurable way?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's elegant.
>>>>>>> Why? What makes it more "elegant"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's just a piece of the computer, once installed.  No wire.
>>>>> So by that argument, an all-in-one is more "elegant" than having an
>>>>> external monitor?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> But you just defined elegance by lack of wires...
>>
>>
>> But not by marrying different components to each other, creating a
>> fragile system.
>
> So then an external monitor is "fragile"?

And the keyboard & mouse too, because they've not been integrated into
the computer case either, so under Joel's choice of definitions they
must be considered to be 'fragile' too.

>>>>> This looks pretty "elegant" to me:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.owc.com/solutions/ministack-stx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or this:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://satechi.net/landing/new-stand-and-hub-m4-mac-mini>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember: Thunderbolt literally IS PCIe...
>>>>
>>>> OK, but why not just have a real case, a real motherboard?  Why the
>>>> quirks?
>>> What makes one more "real" than the other?
>>
>>
>> Expandability.
>
> Which I've already addressed.

Plus in the case of the STX, if the NVMe & HDD/SSD which one chose to
install ends up being inadequate in size, it is straightforward to open
the box and install a larger one...all with the advantage of also having
a provisioning of a Thunderbolt 3 hub for additional peripheral ports.
They're pretty sweet.

-hh

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>>>>> the installer properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
>>>> up, nerd.
>>> You failed to find an installer that would boot.
>>>
>>> That's not the same thing.
>>
>> Idiot, there was nothing wrong with the USB disk, it didn't load the
>> Linux installer on my fresh hardware. Use your brain, if Apple didn't
>> replace it with their propaganda.
>
>Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...

And that is why you are a dummy, nerd.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/17/24 4:09 PM, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>>>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>>>>>> the installer properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
>>>>> up, nerd.
>>>> You failed to find an installer that would boot.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the same thing.
>>>
>>> Idiot, there was nothing wrong with the USB disk, it didn't load the
>>> Linux installer on my fresh hardware. Use your brain, if Apple didn't
>>> replace it with their propaganda.
>>
>> Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...
>
>
> And that is why you are a dummy, nerd.
>

But how is he wrong?

Certainly, you're not suggesting that anyone who tries to install Linux
on a Windows PC is doomed to fail, because we've seen that even people
like RonB have done so successfully.

So just what tangible evidence do you have that it is something that has
to do with the shortcomings of Linux and not shortcomings of *you*?

Damn...choose your poison, dude.

-hh

On 2024-12-17 13:09, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Show me that Linux didn't support your system's components in any
>>>>>>>> respect when you bought it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried booting a USB of Linux with it, early on, it didn't even load
>>>>>>> the installer properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You failing to do something is NOT proof it can't be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't fail to do anything, the installer didn't boot, shut the fuck
>>>>> up, nerd.
>>>> You failed to find an installer that would boot.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the same thing.
>>>
>>> Idiot, there was nothing wrong with the USB disk, it didn't load the
>>> Linux installer on my fresh hardware. Use your brain, if Apple didn't
>>> replace it with their propaganda.
>>
>> Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...
>
>
> And that is why you are a dummy, nerd.
>

LOL!

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 12/17/24 4:09 PM, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...
>>
>> And that is why you are a dummy, nerd.
>
>But how is he wrong?
>
>Certainly, you're not suggesting that anyone who tries to install Linux
>on a Windows PC is doomed to fail, because we've seen that even people
>like RonB have done so successfully.
>
>
>So just what tangible evidence do you have that it is something that has
>to do with the shortcomings of Linux and not shortcomings of *you*?
>
>
>Damn...choose your poison, dude.

Listen up, fellow, this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-17 16:19, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 12/17/24 4:09 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me...
>>>
>>> And that is why you are a dummy, nerd.
>>
>> But how is he wrong?
>>
>> Certainly, you're not suggesting that anyone who tries to install Linux
>> on a Windows PC is doomed to fail, because we've seen that even people
>> like RonB have done so successfully.
>>
>>
>> So just what tangible evidence do you have that it is something that has
>> to do with the shortcomings of Linux and not shortcomings of *you*?
>>
>>
>> Damn...choose your poison, dude.
>
>
> Listen up, fellow, this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
> a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
> I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
> rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
> problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.
>

That fact that it "had been" used doesn't mean it was the right media to
install Linux on that particular PC, doofus.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
>> a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
>> I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
>> rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
>> problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.
>
>That fact that it "had been" used doesn't mean it was the right media to
>install Linux on that particular PC, doofus.

Incorrect, "doofus", it was the normal 64-bit media, you're a fucking
moron.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-17 17:26, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
>>> a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
>>> I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
>>> rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
>>> problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.
>>
>> That fact that it "had been" used doesn't mean it was the right media to
>> install Linux on that particular PC, doofus.
>
>
> Incorrect, "doofus", it was the normal 64-bit media, you're a fucking
> moron.
No. I'm not incorrect.

You failing to be able to do something isn't proof it cannot be done.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
>>>> a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
>>>> I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
>>>> rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
>>>> problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.
>>>
>>> That fact that it "had been" used doesn't mean it was the right media to
>>> install Linux on that particular PC, doofus.
>>
>> Incorrect, "doofus", it was the normal 64-bit media, you're a fucking
>> moron.
>No. I'm not incorrect.
>
>You failing to be able to do something isn't proof it cannot be done.

I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
moron.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-18 06:03, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> this USB had been used to install Linux. Don't be
>>>>> a fucking moron. It is actually possible that the Linux installer saw
>>>>> I already had Winblows, and was prompting me to wait a while to get
>>>>> rid of it, but in any event it was a black screen. There wasn't a
>>>>> problem with the disk, I'm not retarded.
>>>>
>>>> That fact that it "had been" used doesn't mean it was the right media to
>>>> install Linux on that particular PC, doofus.
>>>
>>> Incorrect, "doofus", it was the normal 64-bit media, you're a fucking
>>> moron.
>> No. I'm not incorrect.
>>
>> You failing to be able to do something isn't proof it cannot be done.
>
>
> I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
> distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
> moron.

You imagine the words "working media" mean "works on everything
forever", do you?

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
>> distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
>> moron.
>
>You imagine the words "working media" mean "works on everything
>forever", do you?

I had used them *recently* on the old computer, they were made by it.
Could it be that there was a way to install Linux, though, yes there
still are other distros like Gentoo, but I got the sense I should just
enjoy Winblows for a while, and predictably I've switched back to
Linux on the new hardware.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-18 10:01, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
>>> distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
>>> moron.
>>
>> You imagine the words "working media" mean "works on everything
>> forever", do you?
>
>
> I had used them *recently* on the old computer, they were made by it.
> Could it be that there was a way to install Linux, though, yes there
> still are other distros like Gentoo, but I got the sense I should just
> enjoy Winblows for a while, and predictably I've switched back to
> Linux on the new hardware.
>

You are good at making excuses, I'll give you that.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
>>>> distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
>>>> moron.
>>>
>>> You imagine the words "working media" mean "works on everything
>>> forever", do you?
>>
>> I had used them *recently* on the old computer, they were made by it.
>> Could it be that there was a way to install Linux, though, yes there
>> still are other distros like Gentoo, but I got the sense I should just
>> enjoy Winblows for a while, and predictably I've switched back to
>> Linux on the new hardware.
>
>You are good at making excuses, I'll give you that.

What excuse did I make? I talk real talk. Yes, there was an issue
with booting USB installer disks to try Linux on the new machine.
Later, when I was tired of Windows, I have had great results using
Linux on the machine.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

In <f076mjtsc1b1b6ivob90g7m9e9gt465md9@4ax.com> Joel wrote:
>
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> I didn't "fail" to do anything, I had working media, neither Linux
>>>>> distro's USB booted to anything on the screen - you are a fucking
>>>>> moron.
>>>>
>>>> You imagine the words "working media" mean "works on everything
>>>> forever", do you?
>>>
>>> I had used them *recently* on the old computer, they were made by it.
>>> Could it be that there was a way to install Linux, though, yes there
>>> still are other distros like Gentoo, but I got the sense I should just
>>> enjoy Winblows for a while, and predictably I've switched back to
>>> Linux on the new hardware.
>>
>>You are good at making excuses, I'll give you that.
>
>
> What excuse did I make? I talk real talk. Yes, there was an issue
> with booting USB installer disks to try Linux on the new machine.
> Later, when I was tired of Windows, I have had great results using
> Linux on the machine.

Why limit yourself to one OS? Run both.