On 2024-12-30 15:41, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be learned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers, like
>>>>>>>>> iOS requires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive", doofus?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
>>>>>>> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>>>>>> And how did you learn which button to press?
>>>>>
>>>>> By doing it ...
>>>>
>>>> So you do know that when you get a new iPhone, it gives you the thing
>>>> you need to know, right?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Instructions? I'd rather just be able to start using it, effectively.
>>
>> You're lying if you pretend that you learned everything you know with no
>> instructions.
>
>
> A smartphone shouldn't need instructions for the most basic UI
> features.
Nonsense.

Seriously: utter nonsense.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> why can't Apple
>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons? Is
>> it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of swiping?
>> WTF!
>
>Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>
>And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost everything,
>so why not for basic navigation.
>
>Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it works.

If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-30 16:14, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> why can't Apple
>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons? Is
>>> it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of swiping?
>>> WTF!
>>
>> Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>
>> And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost everything,
>> so why not for basic navigation.
>>
>> Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it works.
>
>
> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.
>

But without actually ever using it, you declare it all kinds of bullshit
pronouncements...

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eku5njdhcbepfra7shh83pfipmn1ukkpl9@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be
>>>> learned.
>>>
>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers, like
>>> iOS requires.
>>
>>What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive", doofus?
>
>
> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.

Thus we see Joel's problem.. by his own admission he has issues with
learning or thinking.. thus confirming what we all suspected.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nd06nj5bb4n1c5kp1g81d7v8hlr6dctjjs@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be
>>>>>> learned.
>>>>>
>>>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers, like
>>>>> iOS requires.
>>>>
>>>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive",
>>>> doofus?
>>>
>>> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
>>> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>>And how did you learn which button to press?
>
>
> By doing it ...

Translation: Joel can't read an owners manual. He just pushes buttons until
something happens..

One can only wonder how he ever managed to run a computer much less build
one..

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fr96njlg04danvukh0o1u7pb002kjrev1c@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be
>>>>>>>> learned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> iOS requires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive",
>>>>>> doofus?
>>>>>
>>>>> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
>>>>> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>>>> And how did you learn which button to press?
>>>
>>> By doing it ...
>>
>>So you do know that when you get a new iPhone, it gives you the thing
>>you need to know, right?
>>
>>:-)
>
>
> Instructions? I'd rather just be able to start using it, effectively.

Thus why Joel is so poor at everything he does.

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message
news:vkv9p5$1rau1$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2024-12-30 15:07, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be
>>>>>>>>> learned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers,
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> iOS requires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive",
>>>>>>> doofus?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
>>>>>> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>>>>> And how did you learn which button to press?
>>>>
>>>> By doing it ...
>>>
>>> So you do know that when you get a new iPhone, it gives you the thing
>>> you need to know, right?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Instructions? I'd rather just be able to start using it, effectively.
>>
>
> You're lying if you pretend that you learned everything you know with no
> instructions.

True, but is also explains so much about Joel. His inability to run Windows
effectively, his inability to install an OS that isn't plug and play, even
his inability to build a computer that is better and mediocre an that
suffers when changes are made..

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tna6njt2f88olhvkpe1jt9o8lopn3hsomb@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be
>>>>>>>> learned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> iOS requires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive",
>>>>>> doofus?
>>>>>
>>>>> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
>>>>> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>>>>
>>>> So that's your definition of "intuitive": just take a guess?
>>>
>>> It's not a guess. There are only so many things the button could be.
>>> Apple is trying to be fancier, and making a piece of crap in the
>>> process.
>>
>>Dude, you're really reaching right now.
>>
>>There's one--well one and half gestures you need to learn, and the
>>second part follows from the first.
>>
>>You swipe straight up to unlock the phone and to return to the home
>>screen.
>>
>>Add "and to the right" or "and just pause for a moment" to that gesture
>>and you're in the app switcher.
>>
>>It's easily findable.
>
>
> To me, that sounds like you're making my case for me - why can't Apple
> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
> required?

They did.. it's called a touch screen for a reason.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4qd6njlit8a2av1reh1dupoplg2rq5k3er@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> why can't Apple
>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons? Is
>>> it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of swiping?
>>> WTF!
>>
>>Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>
>>And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost everything,
>>so why not for basic navigation.
>>
>>Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it works.
>
>
> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.

If that because the iPhone is inferior, or is it because your knowledge is?

One can only wonder how you learned to use android by 'intuitively' punching
random buttons on the keyboard.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cnu5nj52osij0gfj9jobe9adobbnnrt9dc@4ax.com...
> Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> wrote:
>>On 30 Dec 2024, Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> posted some
>>news:1815e94fa891d6ec$29708$3091964$26dd2c6e@news.thecubenet.com:
>>> Joel wrote:
>
>>>> I'll be 48 in March.
>>>>
>>> It's about time for you to find a job, you lazy mooch
>>> on society.
>>
>>Hahahahaha!
>
>
> My existence is unvaluable for "society", so shut the fuck up, both of
> you right-wing, moronic turds.

Corrected your typo.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3h06njp12ekjkbhe6iepl4hj9tukcccbs3@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-12-30 11:57, Joel wrote:
>>> Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> wrote:
>>>> On 30 Dec 2024, Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> posted some
>>>> news:1815e94fa891d6ec$29708$3091964$26dd2c6e@news.thecubenet.com:
>>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I'll be 48 in March.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's about time for you to find a job, you lazy mooch
>>>>> on society.
>>>>
>>>> Hahahahaha!
>>>
>>> My existence is invaluable for "society", so shut the fuck up, both of
>>> you right-wing, moronic turds.
>>
>>Truly you are a legend in your own mind.
>
>
> You aren't aware of my identity as the second coming of Christ?

Claims to be Christ but can't figure out a simple iPhone.

That's our Joel, stupid and filled with delusion of superiority.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> why can't Apple
>>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons? Is
>>>> it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of swiping?
>>>> WTF!
>>>
>>> Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>>
>>> And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost everything,
>>> so why not for basic navigation.
>>>
>>> Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it works.
>>
>> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.
>
>But without actually ever using it, you declare it all kinds of bullshit
>pronouncements...

It might be bullshit to the extent that I'm biased against their
design, but it's not for no reason, it's what I think makes sense,
people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
but it's something I can't relate to.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/30/24 2:55 PM, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> No user interface is truly intuitive; but rather each needs to be learned.
>>>
>>> But intuitive learning is superior to learning quirky maneuvers, like
>>> iOS requires.
>>
>> What makes a button with an unknown symbol on it more "intuitive", doofus?
>
>
> You press it and get results, without having to learn or think too
> much about it. Samsung is genius, Apple is mediocre.
>

Decades ago, I used 'Graffiti' on the Palm Pilot. It was a shorthand
handwriting system and since it was a paper analog and language based,
extremely intuitive.

So now then, which smartphone OS uses Graffiti today: Apple or Android?

-hh

On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:

> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> why can't Apple
>>>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons?
>>>>> Is it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of
>>>>> swiping? WTF!
>>>>
>>>> Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>>>
>>>> And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost
>>>> everything, so why not for basic navigation.
>>>>
>>>> Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it
>>>> works.
>>>
>>> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.
>>
>>But without actually ever using it, you declare it all kinds of
>>bullshit pronouncements...
>
>
> It might be bullshit to the extent that I'm biased against their
> design, but it's not for no reason, it's what I think makes sense,
> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
> but it's something I can't relate to.

Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.

Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> wrote:

>Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
>
>On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> why can't Apple
>>>>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>>>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons?
>>>>>> Is it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of
>>>>>> swiping? WTF!
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>>>>
>>>>> And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost
>>>>> everything, so why not for basic navigation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it
>>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.
>>>
>>>But without actually ever using it, you declare it all kinds of
>>>bullshit pronouncements...
>>
>> It might be bullshit to the extent that I'm biased against their
>> design, but it's not for no reason, it's what I think makes sense,
>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>
>Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.

And yet you had to post that with dizum? Are you afraid of them suing
you over a Usenet post?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> why can't Apple
>>>>>> just make a phone with all the controls that would logically be
>>>>>> required? Is Samsung somehow inelegant for including the buttons?
>>>>>> Is it more elegant to not have them, and have this scheme of
>>>>>> swiping? WTF!
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the controls you use take up space ALL THE TIME.
>>>>>
>>>>> And to use a modern smartphone is to use gestures for almost
>>>>> everything, so why not for basic navigation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Android has switched to Apple's way of doing things because it
>>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> If you like the iPhone, have at it, I do not.
>>>
>>> But without actually ever using it, you declare it all kinds of
>>> bullshit pronouncements...
>>
>>
>> It might be bullshit to the extent that I'm biased against their
>> design, but it's not for no reason, it's what I think makes sense,
>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>
> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>

Whatever makes you feel superior!

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>
>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>
>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>
>Whatever makes you feel superior!

For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with
macOS-specificness.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>>
>>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>>
>>Whatever makes you feel superior!
>
>For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
>among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with
>macOS-specificness.

And Darwin, of course.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 01 Jan 2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
news:2qvbnj9pt42qal6ae9ii72gloeorlkigo8@4ax.com:

> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>>
>>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>>
>>Whatever makes you feel superior!
>
>
> For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
> among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with

macOS-limitations.

Fixed that for you.

On 2025-01-03 11:02, Rudy Ball wrote:
> On 01 Jan 2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
> news:2qvbnj9pt42qal6ae9ii72gloeorlkigo8@4ax.com:
>
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>>>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>>>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>>>
>>>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>>>
>>> Whatever makes you feel superior!
>>
>>
>> For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
>> among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with
>
> macOS-limitations.
>
> Fixed that for you.

What "limitations" would those be?

Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> wrote:
>On 01 Jan 2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>news:2qvbnj9pt42qal6ae9ii72gloeorlkigo8@4ax.com:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>>>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>>>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>>>
>>>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>>>
>>>Whatever makes you feel superior!
>>
>> For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
>> among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with
>
>macOS-limitations.
>
>Fixed that for you.

Nah, it's not limitations. I can do anything with a Mac that would be
necessary, it's just that I'd rather do it in style, Linux gives me
that, and Windows would on an i9 with 64 GB RAM.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2025-01-03 12:19, Joel wrote:
> Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 01 Jan 2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>> news:2qvbnj9pt42qal6ae9ii72gloeorlkigo8@4ax.com:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-01 18:02, Byrd wrote:
>>>>> On 31 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some
>>>>> news:q788nj57oare1scvi4j3udr21dk0ig9qpk@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> people's minds work differently, if people prefer Apple's motifs for
>>>>>> phones and computers, I don't begrudge them their right to use them,
>>>>>> but it's something I can't relate to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple is proof positive that a market for stupid people exists.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever makes you feel superior!
>>>
>>> For what it could be worth, Alan, I do think you are an exception,
>>> among Apple fans. You actually see it as Unix/BSD/Mach along with
>>
>> macOS-limitations.
>>
>> Fixed that for you.
>
>
> Nah, it's not limitations. I can do anything with a Mac that would be
> necessary, it's just that I'd rather do it in style, Linux gives me
> that, and Windows would on an i9 with 64 GB RAM.
You really say the most idiotic things.

You'd need an i9 and 64GB of RAM to do what you've admitted you do?

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-01-03 12:19, Joel wrote:
>> Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> macOS-limitations.
>>>
>>> Fixed that for you.
>>
>> Nah, it's not limitations. I can do anything with a Mac that would be
>> necessary, it's just that I'd rather do it in style, Linux gives me
>> that, and Windows would on an i9 with 64 GB RAM.
>You really say the most idiotic things.
>
>You'd need an i9 and 64GB of RAM to do what you've admitted you do?

The point is that Win11 is bloated, but what are you saying I've
"admitted" doing that is so odd, pray tell?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2025-01-03 15:40, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-03 12:19, Joel wrote:
>>> Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> macOS-limitations.
>>>>
>>>> Fixed that for you.
>>>
>>> Nah, it's not limitations. I can do anything with a Mac that would be
>>> necessary, it's just that I'd rather do it in style, Linux gives me
>>> that, and Windows would on an i9 with 64 GB RAM.
>> You really say the most idiotic things.
>>
>> You'd need an i9 and 64GB of RAM to do what you've admitted you do?
>
>
> The point is that Win11 is bloated, but what are you saying I've
> "admitted" doing that is so odd, pray tell?
Nothing.

It's just that none of it would require an i9 and 64GB of RAM even if
you were running Windows 11

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-01-03 15:40, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-03 12:19, Joel wrote:
>>>> Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> macOS-limitations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed that for you.
>>>>
>>>> Nah, it's not limitations. I can do anything with a Mac that would be
>>>> necessary, it's just that I'd rather do it in style, Linux gives me
>>>> that, and Windows would on an i9 with 64 GB RAM.
>>> You really say the most idiotic things.
>>>
>>> You'd need an i9 and 64GB of RAM to do what you've admitted you do?
>>
>> The point is that Win11 is bloated, but what are you saying I've
>> "admitted" doing that is so odd, pray tell?
>Nothing.
>
>It's just that none of it would require an i9 and 64GB of RAM even if
>you were running Windows 11

"Require" is the wrong word, though, "be comfortable to use with" is
more it. I could boot Win11 24H2, on this machine, I realize, but I
wouldn't, because it'd be bloated trash.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.