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* Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax ReturnsBradley K. Sherman
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Subject: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
From: Bradley K. Sherman
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| ...
| Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
| their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
| they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
| and personal stakes they have in legislation before
| Congress.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>

--bks

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
> | Congress.
> | ...
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> --bks
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He knows he'll be prosecuted for the irregularities but at least he'll be
easy to find, just look up his cell block in the prison system.

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Memphis is often spotlighted for its vibrant culture and musical heritage, but it also grapples with a notable crime rate that concerns residents and policymakers alike.

Understanding the crime dynamics here is crucial for those living in or moving to the area.

Top 20 Updated Crime Rate Data & Statistics for Memphis, TN in 2024
1. Overall Crime Rate
Overall Crime Rate (1)
Memphis, Tennessee, has a crime rate of 98 incidents per 1,000 residents, which is significantly higher compared to many other cities in the nation. This rate reflects minor and serious offenses, casting a shadow over the city’s vibrant cultural scene. The city also shows indications of having more crime rate in future.

2. Violent Crime Rate
The violent crime rate in Memphis is 24.37 per 1,000 people. This statistic positions Memphis as a city with one of the higher rates of violent crime among nearby cities, including assault, robbery, and murder, relative to its population size.

3. Property Crime Rate
The property crime rate is 73.27 per 1,000 residents, which is high compared to other cities in the state. Property crimes, which include burglary, theft, and motor vehicle theft, make up a substantial portion of the overall crime rate and affect a significant number of communities and neighborhoods.

4. Chance of Becoming a Crime Victim
In Memphis, there’s a 1 in 10 chance of becoming a victim of crime. This alarming statistic emphasizes the importance of community and individual safety measures in daily life.

5. Murder Rate
The murder rate in Memphis is 0.43 per 1,000 people. Although it represents a small fraction of the overall crime index, the impact on the community and the city’s image is profound and lasting.

6. Rape Incidents
Rape Incidents
There are 0.64 rapes per 1,000 residents in Memphis. This rate, while only a part of the overall violent crime scenario, highlights significant concerns about safety, particularly in certain neighborhoods. Efforts to address and reduce these incidents are critical for community well-being.

7. Robbery Statistics
Robbery occurs at a rate of 3.75 per 1,000 people in Memphis. This statistic reflects the challenges local law enforcement and the community face in curbing such violent crimes, which significantly impact the city’s sense of security and national crime ranking.

8. Assault Rate
Assaults happen at 19.55 incidents per 1,000 residents (way above the national average), making it one of the most common forms of violent crime in Memphis. The high rate of assault contributes extensively to the overall violent crime rates and is a key area of concern for safety initiatives.

9. Burglary Rate
There are 9.73 burglaries per 1,000 people in Memphis. This figure indicates the broader property crime issues in the city, influencing both the local and national perceptions of safety in Memphis communities.

10. Theft Rate
The theft rate is 45.57 incidents per 1,000 residents, making it the most prevalent crime in Memphis. This rate significantly affects the overall crime index and highlights ongoing challenges in protecting personal and commercial property in the city.

11. Motor Vehicle Theft Rate
Motor Vehicle Theft Rate
Motor vehicle thefts occur at a rate of 17.97 per 1,000 in Memphis. This rate is considerably high and poses a significant challenge to residents and local law enforcement. The prevalence of these crimes impacts insurance costs and community safety perceptions.

12. Safest Neighborhoods
Areas like Collierville and Evergreen are among the safest in Memphis. They offer lower crime rates and a higher sense of security. Residents in these areas report fewer incidents and express greater satisfaction with local safety measures.

Rank Neighborhood Chance of being a victim
1 Windyke-Southwind 1 in 80
2 Collierville 1 in 75
3 Sanga Point 1 in 72
4 Evergreen 1 in 64
5 Eads-Fisherville 1 in 60
6 Germantown 1 in 59
7 Cooper-Young 1 in 55
8 Bartlett 1 in 46
9 East Memphis 1 in 40
10 Cordova-Appling 1 in 30
13. Comparison to National Median
Memphis’ violent crime rate is significantly higher than the U.S. median of 4 per 1,000. This comparison underscores the challenges faced by the city in managing violence and maintaining safety, which are critical areas of concern for both community leaders and policymakers.

14. Tennessee Comparison
Memphis has a higher crime rate than the Tennessee average. This statistic positions Memphis as one of the more challenging cities in the state regarding criminal activity, necessitating focused efforts on crime reduction and law enforcement.

15. High Crime Areas
High Crime Areas
Neighborhoods with elevated crime rates include downtown and north Memphis. These regions struggle with higher incidents of violent and property crime, which affects their livability and the overall perception of Memphis as a safe place to reside.

Rank Neighborhood
1 Downtown Memphis
2 North Memphis
3 Frayser
4 Binghampton
5 South Memphis
6 Whitehaven
7 Orange Mound
8 Parkway Village
9 Fox Meadows
10 Shelby Forest
16. Law Enforcement Response
Memphis police are implementing new strategies to tackle high crime rates, including advanced technology and increased patrols in key areas. These efforts focus on areas with historically high violent and property crime rates, aiming to decrease the overall crime trend in the city. Memphis increased the headcount of law enforcement professionals in recent years.

17. Crime Prevention Programs
The city has introduced community-based programs aimed at crime reduction, which include youth engagement activities and educational outreach. These initiatives address crime at its roots, promoting a safer community environment and reducing the likelihood of crime surges.

18. Public Safety Initiatives
Investments in public surveillance and street lighting have been increased across Memphis to enhance safety. These measures have been shown to deter criminal activity and improve nighttime security in both residential and commercial areas, helping to decrease the overall incidence of crimes.

19. Community Policing Efforts
In Memphis, there is a strong focus on building trust and cooperation between police and communities. Community policing efforts are crucial in fostering a safe environment and have been positively received by local neighborhoods, contributing to more effective crime prevention and response.

20. Impact of Crime on Community
High crime rates have significantly affected local businesses and residential security in Memphis. The economic cost and impact on community life necessitate ongoing efforts from law enforcement and community leaders to restore safety and confidence among residents and investors.

FAQs
Where does Memphis rank in crime?

Memphis ranks high in both violent and property crime rates compared to other cities across America. It consistently appears near the top of lists for cities with the most crime, reflecting challenges in addressing the frequency and severity of crimes reported.

Is Nashville safer than Memphis?

Yes, Nashville is generally considered safer than Memphis. While both cities have their challenges, Memphis typically has higher rates of violent and property crimes. Comparative analyses often show that Nashville has a lower crime rate, making it statistically safer.

Have property crimes increased in Memphis this year?

Yes, property crimes in Memphis have seen an uptick this year. The increase is attributed to a surge in burglaries and motor vehicle thefts, significantly impacting the overall crime index and community safety.

What new crime prevention initiatives have been introduced in Memphis?

New crime prevention initiatives in Memphis include expanding community policing efforts, integrating crime prevention through environmental design (CPTED) principles, and launching public awareness campaigns focused on crime reduction. These initiatives aim to engage the community directly in tackling crime, supported by data-driven strategies and enhanced police presence.

How does the violent crime rate in Memphis compare to the national average?

The violent crime rate in Memphis is considerably higher than the national average. Memphis experiences a significantly elevated rate of violent crimes, including assaults, robberies, and homicides, compared to many other cities in the country.

Key Takeaways
Memphis faces substantial challenges with violent and property crimes, which affect its residents daily. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for improving safety and quality of life.

If you’ve experienced crime in Memphis or have been affected by the issues discussed, sharing your story can help shed light on real experiences and perhaps inspire further action in crime prevention. Let’s collaborate to create a safer community for everyone in Memphis.

Everyone with a gun shoot one black criminal a day until crime begins to drop.

https://getsafeandsound.com/blog/memphis-crime-rate/

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Subject: West Memphis black rape suspect charged with 6 sex crimes involving children on the run for over 12 hours
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Tyler Watkins, black Democrat pedophile

WEST MEMPHIS, Ark. — A West Memphis rape suspect went on the run Wednesday after failing to show up for his court date, according to the Crittenden County Sheriff’s Department.

The charges facing 29-year-old Tyler Watkins include rape, child pornography and sexually grooming a child.

“This guy's a real predator,” said resident Bruce Martin, who lives nearby and knows of Watkins’ alleged crimes. “He shouldn't have been allowed bond.”

According to law enforcement, Watkins is considered armed and dangerous.

“Given the circumstances, the time that he’s looking at, those kinds of situations become volatile because they don’t have a lot to lose,” said Crittenden County Chief Deputy Todd Grooms.

Watkins was due in court Wednesday morning on his charges from 2022.

“Members of his family got a text from Mr. Watkins stating possible suicidal thoughts,” said Sergeant Matthew Jarrett of the West Memphis Police Department.

Officers checked his home and found his ankle monitor cut off. West Memphis Police said the search for Watkins started around 9:00 a.m., led by the Crittenden County Sheriff’s Department, with help from both Marion and West Memphis police.

Watkins’ last listed residence was less than half-a-mile from Maddux Elementary School and a childcare center.

“When he's convicted of the crimes, being sexual in nature, you'll have to be on the state registry, and then there will be restrictions on where he can be. But as of this point, he is not convicted of it," Sergeant Jarrett said.

Martin is in disbelief over how Watkins was able to disappear.

“(Law enforcement) didn’t even know that this guy was working,” he said. “Some kind of way, he was supposed to be on a monitor, and he was going to work, and they didn’t know he was going to work. They actually weren’t keeping up with this guy.”

The Crittenden County Sheriff’s Department is offering $2,000 for information leading to Watkins’ arrest.

Anyone with information is asked to call CrimeStoppers at 870-732-4444.

https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/crime/west-memphis-rape-suspect-charged-6-sex-crimes-children-on-the-run-for-over-12-hours/522-73afdf75-ccf9-4235-bd5e-88b4c4e286d7

Subject: Unsalvageable black teen suspect charged with firing shots near Ooltewah High School football game Friday
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He cannot be rehabilitated. Don't even send him to trial, just kill him and burn the body.

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Photos: Hamilton Co. Jail / Getty Images file photo.

OOLTEWAH, Tenn. — A football game at Ooltewah High School was disrupted Friday night when shots were fired near the tennis courts. Now, authorities say a 19-year-old faces charges.

Hamilton County Sheriff's Office (HCSO) Deputies arrived at the scene around 9:40 p.m. after receiving reports of gunfire during a game between two visiting teams. (The Ooltewah High School team was not involved in the match).

HCSO says the suspect, later identified as Conner Shannon, told deputies that he fired a shot into the air to break up a fight involving his cousins.

Deputies found two firearms in Shannon's vehicle, including a rifle with a spent casing jammed in the chamber, according to HCSO's release.

Shannon was detained and taken to the Hamilton County Jail. He's been charged with reckless endangerment and carrying weapons on school property.

HCSO says two people were hurt during the incident and were treated on the scene by Hamilton County EMS. Both were cleared without needing further medical attention.

Video evidence obtained by deputies appeared to show other suspects involved in the assault, and HCSO says deputies continue to work this case.

https://foxchattanooga.com/news/instagram/teen-suspect-charged-with-firing-shots-near-ooltewah-high-school-football-game-friday#

Subject: Untested BLACK GHETTO RAT rape kits plagued Democrat run Memphis long before jogger case
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Subject: Untested BLACK GHETTO RAT rape kits plagued Democrat run Memphis long before jogger case
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Problems with rape kit evidence testing keep haunting Memphis.

A city long plagued by a heavy backlog of untested sexual assault kits was shaken by Cleotha Henderson’s arrest in the killing of Eliza Fletcher after she was abducted during a morning jog last month.

So when authorities said his DNA was linked to a rape that occurred nearly a year earlier — charging him separately days after he was arrested in Fletcher’s killing — an outraged city turned to the obvious question: Why was he still on the streets?

The case of Henderson, who already has served 20 years in prison for a kidnapping he committed at 16, has reignited criticism of Tennessee’s sexual assault testing process. That has included calls for shorter delays from the testing agency, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, and questions about why Memphis didn’t seek to fast-track a kit that could have been tested in days.

Instead, it took nearly a year, unearthing key evidence too late to charge Henderson before Fletcher’s killing.

The tragic outcome brings back memories from the early 2010s, when Memphis revealed a backlog of about 12,000 untested rape kits that took years to whittle down and led to a lawsuit that’s still ongoing. The new rape charges have spurred another lawsuit accusing the Memphis Police Department of negligence for the delay.

The scenario also has raised broader concerns about Tennessee’s struggles with a problem that has been in the national spotlight for decades and that some states have addressed.

In response, GOP Gov. Bill Lee and Republican legislative leaders have fast-tracked money for 25 additional TBI lab positions, including six in DNA processing. The agency had requested 50 more this year, but Lee funded only 25 in his proposed budget and lawmakers approved that amount.

Meghan Ybos, a rape victim involved in the backlog lawsuit, blames the city for not curbing a problem known for years despite receiving more than $20 million in grants to address the backlog.

“I don’t think the shortcomings of Memphis law enforcement are limited to the handling of rape kits,” Ybos said, “but I think the public should be outraged at the lack of transparency about what Memphis has done with tens of millions of grant money that the city and county have received to test rape kits, train police, hire victim advocates, prosecute cold rape cases and more.”

As of August, Tennessee’s three state labs averaged from 28 to 49 weeks to process rape kits under circumstances that don’t include an order to rush the test. More than 950 rape kits sat untested in labs.

TBI attributed the delays to staffing woes and low pay that complicates recruiting and keeping scientists.

TBI Director David Rausch laid out further moves in hopes of processing all evidence in eight to 12 weeks within the next year: Overtime, weekend hours, more outsourcing to private labs and using retired TBI workers for new worker training to free up current employees.

Tennessee doesn’t require specific turnaround times for newly collected rape kits, though 19 other states do, according to the Joyful Heart Foundation, which is pushing Tennessee to follow suit. Massachusetts requires processing kits within 30 days, but most of the states require testing within 60, 90 or 120 days.

Tennessee’s House and Senate speakers haven’t flagged turnaround mandates as a priority. TBI, meanwhile, said any turnaround requirement would need proper funding.

Ilse Knecht, policy and advocacy director for the Joyful Heart Foundation, said Tennessee’s problems aren’t unique. Without an official U.S. count of rape kits awaiting analysis, Knecht estimated there are likely more than 200,000 untested kits in law enforcement or hospital storage nationally.

“Every single one of these kits that is sitting on a shelf could represent someone like the offender in this case, where you look at their criminal history and they’re committing all kinds of crime, they’ve been doing it for decades, and the evidence that could stop them is sitting on a shelf somewhere,” Knecht told The Associated Press.

Henderson was charged with first-degree murder in the kidnapping and killing of Fletcher, a mother of two and a kindergarten teacher who was on a pre-dawn run Sept. 2 when she was forced into an SUV on the University of Memphis campus. Her remains were found on Sept. 5 behind a vacant Memphis house.

Henderson, who also has gone by Cleotha Abston, has not entered a plea in the killing but was rebooked in jail on Sept. 9 on charges related to the September 2021 rape of a Memphis woman. Henderson has pleaded not guilty to charges in that attack, including aggravated rape.

The new lawsuit brought by the woman who says she was raped in that attack says Memphis police could have prevented Fletcher’s death if they had investigated the 2021 rape more vigorously.

“Cleotha Abston should and could have been arrested and indicted for the aggravated rape of (the alleged victim) many months earlier, most likely in the year 2021,” the lawsuit says. The AP isn’t naming the woman.

Rape kits contain semen, saliva or blood samples taken from a victim. Specimens containing DNA evidence are uploaded to the FBI’s Combined DNA Index System, or CODIS, to check for a match.

In Memphis, backlogs have long been a problem. About 12,000 untested rape kits were disclosed there in 2013. A task force was formed, and police began using results to start investigations — and get some convictions.

The city has said the backlog revealed in 2013 has been eliminated. But long delays in testing rape kits persist in Tennessee, including cases from Memphis.

In the Henderson case, Memphis police said a sexual assault report was taken Sept. 21, 2021. A rape kit was submitted two days later to TBI, the bureau said.

“An official CODIS hit was not received until after” Fletcher’s abduction, police said, and probable cause to make an arrest “did not exist until after the CODIS hit had been received.”

TBI said no request was made for expedited analysis and no suspect information was included in the submission.

The kit eventually was pulled from evidence storage and an initial report was completed Aug. 29, the bureau said.

The 2021 DNA matched Henderson’s in the national database on Sept. 5, three days after Fletcher’s abduction, authorities said. TBI reported the match to Memphis police.

Under Tennessee law, police agencies generally have 30 days to send rape kit evidence to TBI or another lab, but there’s no mandate on processing times.

TBI said its budget request was conservative — $10.2 million for 40 scientists and 10 lower-level positions. A West Virginia University forensic calculator said TBI labs needed another 71 positions, the bureau noted.

In DNA testing, the labs currently have six supervisors and 26 special agent/forensic scientist positions, some in hiring or lengthy new hire training. TBI hopes to start the 40 scientists — 14 in DNA — by late this month and others by late March.

Still, many have grown impatient at a situation they say called for urgency.

“These are our most vulnerable victims,” said Josh Spickler, executive director of Just City, a Memphis organization pressing for a fairer criminal justice system. “To have a backlog like that build up, and still, to this day, have it be the norm that a rape kit test takes the many months that it does, is really not acceptable.”

https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/ap-untested-rape-kits-plagued-memphis-long-before-jogger-case/

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Subject: Democrat city council halts updates on BLACK GHETTO RAT rape kits as cases ramp up in court
From: kamala.harris.encourages@black.crime (Black Crime Every Day)
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Violent rapists have walked free for decades because Memphis authorities neglected to do anything with thousands of pieces of evidence that would lock them up.

But earlier this year, after hundreds of cases began moving through courts again, Memphis City Council members stopped getting regular updates on their progress.

The rape kit backlog has caused the Criminal Justice Center to be slammed with cases that should have been on the docket years, if not decades, ago.

One of those cases includes Terrell Jackson. He stood before a judge Tuesday after police arrested the registered sex offender in Louisiana.

https://wreg.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2019/11/terrell-jackson.jpg?resize=763,720

A jury recently convicted him of violently raping a young woman in Memphis in 1998. Jackson requested a new attorney for another rape charge he’s facing.

Jackson walked free all this time, because MPD never did anything with the key evidence.

That’s right — the sexual assault kit wasn’t processed until 16 years later.

It was one of 12,000 kits police left on a shelf to collect dust until WREG exposed the massive backlog in 2010.

“I woke up to somebody standing over me. I thought, I’m dreaming. I’m really going crazy,” said Terilyn Blockman, who was raped in her apartment in 1991.

“Next thing I knew, he had his hand over my face. He was strangling me. I was trying to peel his hand off me. I thought, if I don’t get this hand off of me, I’m going to die. I’m suffocating,” she said.

Blockman said the man then raped her and took off. He left her numb, just lying there as she tried to gain the courage to call 911.

“I’ve got to call police. If he still is somewhere in my condominium, I don’t want to call police, because what if he comes in and says, ‘You’re not calling police’ and kills me,” she said. “I never slept. I don’t remember sleeping at all. I still don’t sleep.”

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Terilyn Blockman

Blockman consented to a sexual assault examination, and evidence was collected, but she didn’t hear anything until May when she found out her kit was in that backlog and was finally headed to a lab.

“All of the kits have been tested. Now, the work turns to investigating those cases where the testing lead us somewhere,” Shelby County District Attorney Amy Weirich said .

Weirich said she’s added more people to her team as their work continues to ramp up.

“That next step is anything from locating a victim or finding out if the victim is still alive. Finding out if the defendant, the suspect, is still alive,” she said.

As of Oct. 25, there have been 83 guilty pleas or convictions.

Three hundred fifty-one kits made their way to the court system — two dozen await a grand jury, 88 await trial and 46 of the cases are dealing with a suspect accused of at least two or more rapes.

“The number is going to keep growing. The cases that land on our desk to prosecute and hold these defenders accountable,” said Weirich.

WREG investigators promised to track the progress, but the city, in spite of its commitment to transparency, made that job harder.

For the past several years, city leaders provided updates on the backlog to the council every month — that is, until April, when we found out those updates suddenly stopped.

We asked council members why.

“We got to a point that our responsibility with those kits had run its course. Now, it is in the hands of the justice system,” said Councilman Worth Morgan. “The reports all started sounding the same.”

We asked Councilman Martavious Jones about accountability.

“Well, I think there’s one of those things. There is an expectation. You do raise a good point. I guess we need to go through the trust then verify,” he responded.

WREG sat down with Deborah Clubb, executive director of the Memphis Area Women’s Council. She’s on the sexual assault kit task force overseeing the backlog.

“The council decided they don’t need monthly reports, after they were sure for a few years the momentum of lab work was underway,” Clubb said.

She said the task force has made major strides with new ordinances/laws, public service announcements and getting MPD a new storage facility.

“We have a few years of work, and we’re not giving up. We’re not stopping,” she said.

But again, how will we know if that work isn’t being made public?

“We do have concerns that the public isn’t seeing what progress is happening. We are just beginning to address that,” she said.

Blockman was frustrated to hear the updates stopped.

“Not letting us know what’s going on with the kits and not keeping us informed, that’s not fair. That’s not right,” she said.

She also wonders what about the rape kits taken since the backlog.

MPD says they ensure each kit now heads to a lab within 96 hours after its logged into the property and evidence room.

But the state has said the waiting period could be months due to funding and staffing issues.

Not to mention, the TBI says they “do not have an existing document or database tracking the total number of sexual assault kit submissions.”

“That upsets me a lot,” said Blockman.

She believes her concerns will eventually fade, once trust is built again.

“Are you afraid they’re going to forget about you again?” WREG asked.

“Yes. That scares me a lot,” she said.

Blockman said she has a meeting coming up with investigators, so she’s keeping a good thought. She also joined a class action lawsuit against the city.

The task force told WREG Tuesday they plan on having another update on the city’s website by the end of the year. We will let you know if that happens.

https://wreg.com/news/city-council-halts-updates-on-rape-kits-as-cases-ramp-up-in-court/

Subject: Memphis Black Democrat Police Officer charged with rape
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Al Bond (Photo: MPD)

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — An officer with the Memphis Police Departmentis charged with rape.

A sexual assault complaint was made to police on November 1. The victim tells police she was sexually assaulted by 28-year-old Officer Al Bond at a party.

Memphis Police Department Sex Crimes Bureau investigated the case. The Shelby County District Attorney General's Office Special Victims Unit reviewed the case and a warrant was issued for Bond of Rape.

Bond was reportedly off-duty at the time of the incident. He had been with the police department since 2017 but has since been let go.

Bond was booked into the Shelby County Jail on Nov. 2.

https://foxchattanooga.com/news/local/memphis-police-officer-charged-with-rape

Subject: No Backlog: Why the Epidemic of Untested BLACK GHETTO RAT Rape Kits Is Not a Symbol of Insufficient Police Budgets But Instead a Failure to Investigate Rape
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A sex crimes detective with the Memphis Police Department will keep her job despite leaking confidential investigative files to the family of a rape suspect, the Commercial Appeal reported last week. Before Detective Ouita Knowlton became the subject of a criminal investigation, she was the supervisor of the DNA Unit, which was formed in 2014 to investigate long-neglected […]

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A sex crimes detective with the Memphis Police Department will keep her job despite leaking confidential investigative files to the family of a rape suspect, the Commercial Appeal reported last week. Before Detective Ouita Knowlton became the subject of a criminal investigation, she was the supervisor of the DNA Unit, which was formed in 2014 to investigate long-neglected rape cases involving untested rape kits.

A rape kit contains physical evidence collected from the body of a rape victim. In addition to using DNA to identify an unknown perpetrator, the results from testing can be used to corroborate or refute statements from the victim or suspect.

Law enforcement encourages victims to submit to forensic examination as soon as possible after an assault to maximize the chances of evidence recovery. Exams, which typically last four to six hours, can be invasive, painful, and traumatizing for victims. The evidence collected varies depending on what happened during the assault, but rape kits generally include swabs, test tubes, microscopic slides, and evidence collection envelopes for hairs and fibers. The victim is swabbed for any biological matter that may contain the perpetrator’s DNA (e.g., skin, saliva, semen). The examiner photographs any bruising or other injuries and collects the victim’s clothing. The rape kit and other crime scene evidence, such as bedding, is transferred to law enforcement to log into its evidence facility. Then it is sent to a crime lab for DNA testing to solve the case.

But instead of sending rape kits to crime labs, police departments nationwide have often stashed rape kits wherever they could find space: in evidence warehouses, precinct closets, squad car trunks, some in environments with DNA-degrading high heat and moisture.

In 2009, a Human Rights Watch report exposed over 12,000 untested rape kits in law enforcement storage throughout Los Angeles County. That same year, inquiries by the Cleveland Plain Dealer about the failure of law enforcement to stop serial rapist and mass murderer Anthony Sowell spurredthe city’s police department to announce plans to process over 4,000 untested rape kits of its own. Also in 2009, after the FBI took control of the Detroit Police Department property room, officials revealed over 8,000 rape kits in police storage had never been submitted to a lab. In 2013, the Memphis Police Department admitted it had failed to test over 12,000 rape kits. In 2014, a New Orleans Police Commander who had been lauded in 2011 for testing at least 800 unprocessed rape kits revealed the department had failed to submit more than 400 rape kits collected since 2011. In 2017, the Wayne County Prosecuting Attorney’s office admitted at least 555 rape kits collected by Detroit Police since th
e 2009 public outcry weren’t tested until 2015, a fact that was never announced to the public.

In response to public criticisms, law enforcement blame their failure to submit rape kits on a lack of funding for DNA testing. But according to the National Institute of Justice, additional factors include victim-blaming beliefs by police, no written protocol for submitting kits to the lab for testing, high turnover in police leadership, and lack of community-based victim advocacy services.

It’s worth noting that today’s DNA technology has not always been available to law enforcement. In 1994, Congress authorized the National DNA Index System (NDIS), but modern DNA forensic analysis was not widely used until the late 1990s. Until at least the early 2000s, use of DNA databases was not common across the nation.

But when authorities began uploading DNA profiles from convicted offenders and arrestees and from missing persons and unidentified remains, they still failed to submit rape kits to labs for DNA testing.

Ohio Public Defender Tim Young, whose office has appealed convictions based on Cleveland’s neglected rape kits, told the Plain Dealer a false narrative has taken hold in the public imagination. “We’ve had DNA testing since the mid-1990s,” he said. “They (law enforcement) were dilatory in not using it. It’s a continuation of broken police culture that places the police first, not the victims, the defendants — or justice.”

Indeed, research at Michigan State University analyzed 1,268 police reports associated with Detroit’s untested rape kits. A report released in 2015 found “most cases were closed after minimal investigational effort.”

And even with advances in DNA technology, police solve fewer rapes than they did in the past.

Nationwide, the clearance rate for rape has declined sharply in the past decade, from 51% in 1995 to approximately 40%, where it has remained stable since 2005. In some cities the clearance rate for rape is in the single digits. During this same time period, clearance rates for murder and aggravated assault barely changed.

“Clearance” is a common way to measure an agency’s success in fighting crime. There are two types of clearance: arrest and exceptional clearance. The latter occurs due to circumstances outside law enforcement’s control, such as when the suspect dies or the victim stops cooperating. In these cases, despite being considered cleared, the suspect is never arrested, charged, or referred for prosecution.

Of the 111,241 rapes known to law enforcement in 2016, only 36% were cleared. And since the FBI counts exceptional clearance in the same tally as clearance by arrest, clearance rates likely overestimate how many rapists police are putting behind bars.

Untested rape kits are not indicative of underfunded police departments. Instead, they are symptomatic of a police culture that does not properly investigate sexual assault or take victims seriously.

https://theappeal.org/no-backlog-why-the-epidemic-of-untested-rape-kits-is-not-a-symbol-of-insufficient-police-budgets-but-instead-a-failure-to-investigate-rape/

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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Trump has been GENIUS in not releasing any personal/finance
data. Doesn't matter WHAT it says - the MSM will find SOME
way to twist the numbers into a political crusade.

So, don't GIVE the fuckers any numbers ! :-)

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On 10/14/2024 11:22 PM, 186282@ud0s4.net, racist Nazi pseudo-sage, took his
hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:

> Trump has been GENIUS

*HA HA HA HA HA*! No.

> in not releasing any personal/finance data.

If he's not going to release it, why does he *promise* to release it?

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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>On 10/14/2024 11:22 PM, 186282@ud0s4.net, racist Nazi pseudo-sage, took his
>hands and mouth off Xi's dick long enough to peck:
>
>> Trump has been GENIUS
>
>*HA HA HA HA HA*! No.
>
>> in not releasing any personal/finance data.
>
>If he's not going to release it, why does he *promise* to release it?

Every time Trump releases his tax returns he faces criminal charges, so why
would he release them if it means he's going to get added time to his already
immense conviction sentences?

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | ...
> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
> | Congress.
> | ...
> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>
> --bks

So? His taxes are none of your business.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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On 10/15/2024 9:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>   |
>>   | ...
>>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>   | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>   | Congress.
>>   | ...
>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-
>> returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>
>>      --bks
>
> So? His taxes are none of your business.

Actually, his taxes and finances *are* the voters' business.

If he's not going to release his tax records, why does he keep promising to
release them? If he's not going to release his medical records, why does he keep
promising to release them? Why do you slavishly support a man who knowingly
makes promises he intends to break at the very moment he makes the promises?

Answer the questions.
--
Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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In article <VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
>
> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> > |
> > | ...
> > | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
> > | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
> > | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
> > | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
> > | Congress.
> > | ...
> > <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
> >
> > --bks
>
> So? His taxes are none of your business.

Exactly.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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In article <kEwPO.173347$15a6.134058@fx12.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>
> On 10/15/2024 9:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> >>   |
> >>   | ...
> >>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
> >>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
> >>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
> >>   | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
> >>   | Congress.
> >>   | ...
> >> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-
> >> returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
> >>
> >>      --bks
> >
> > So? His taxes are none of your business.
>
> Actually, his taxes and finances *are* the voters' business.
>
> If he's not going to release his tax records, why does he keep promising to
> release them? If he's not going to release his medical records, why does he keep
> promising to release them? Why do you slavishly support a man who knowingly
> makes promises he intends to break at the very moment he makes the promises?
>
> Answer the questions.

He doesn't have to.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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On 15 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:YRwPO.213892$1m96.25683@fx15.iad:

> On 10/15/2024 9:22 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
> another content-free batch of lies:
>
>> In article <VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com>,
>> junk@nogood.com says...
>>>
>>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> |
>>>> | ...
>>>> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>>> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>>> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>>> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>>> | Congress.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-t
>>>> ax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>>
>> Exactly.
> Exactly wrong. The finances of the president *absolutely* are the
> business of the voters.

No they aren't unless he does something wrong while in office. Trump
hasn't and he also donated his monthly salary, something no deadbeat
Democrat does.

Why don't you post your tax returns? Oh that's right. You signed a piece
of paper stating you were unable to be personally responsible and can't
manage your own affairs. You don't pay any taxes.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com:

> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> |
>> | ...
>> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>> | Congress.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax
>> -returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>
>> --bks
>
> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>

Don't you believe in candidates
keeping promises?

April 19, 2011: In an interview with ABC News,
Trump pledges to release his tax returns once
President Obama releases his long-form birth
certificate.

April 27, 2011: While contemplating a run
in the 2012 Republican primary, Trump tells
ABC News� Michael Falcone that he will
release his tax returns "at the appropriate
time."

May 20 2014: Trump says that if he runs for
office, he will absolutely release his
tax returns, in an interview with Ireland�s
TV3.

February 25, 2015: Trump tells conservative
radio host Hugh Hewitt that he has "no
objection" to releasing his tax returns.

January 24, 2016: On NBC�s Meet the Press,
Trump says that his campaign is working on
releasing his tax returns.

February 10, 2016: Trump tells NBC News that
he will release his tax returns over the next
few months.

May 8, 2016: On NBC�s Meet the Press, Trump
pledges to release his tax returns as soon
as the audit is over.

May 13, 2016: Trump tells ABC News that
voters do not have a right to see his tax
returns before the election, again saying
that he will present the returns once the
audit is over.

http://tinyurl.com/j6nvjls

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David Hartung wrote:
> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>   |
>>   | ...
>>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>   | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>   | Congress.
>>   | ...
>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>
> So? His taxes are none of your business.

It's every bit our bnusiness to know if he has any
conflicts of interest and is honest.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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On 10/15/24 13:11, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
> news:VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> |
>>> | ...
>>> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>> | Congress.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax
>>> -returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>>
>
>
> Don't you believe in candidates
> keeping promises.

You are familiar with the phrase that those wo live in glass houses
shouldn't throw stones? When it comes to political promises, you live in
a huge glass house.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
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On 10/15/24 23:26, Gronk wrote:
> David Hartung wrote:
>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>   |
>>>   | ...
>>>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>>   | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>>   | Congress.
>>>   | ...
>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-
>>> tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>
>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>
> It's every bit our bnusiness to know if he has any
> conflicts of interest and is honest.

Unless there is clear evidence of such conflict (and thee isn't), the
public has no business seeing the tax records of any politician.

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On 2024-10-15, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <kEwPO.173347$15a6.134058@fx12.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>>
>> On 10/15/2024 9:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> > On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> >>   |
>> >>   | ...
>> >>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>> >>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>> >>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
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163 People Who Condemn Snit Michael Glasser's Psychopath Behaviors

This is the original URL, but it no longer works, because Google has trashed their Usenet system.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e8248efe9040b38

The other URLs below may not work either.

From: Steve Carroll
Wonder how many people want you to stop being a lying hypocrite
(who cries 'victim' every chance he gets)? Guess they'll all be
disappointed. Here are some of them now...

1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member
area and a login. If you forget your password, you can ask it
to e-mail it to you, and a bot will send an e-mail. *That*
is the e-mail Snit got from Sandman's website, and yes he's
that fucked in the head and starved for attention that he'd
claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So, don't get
sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this particular
instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7

2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed*
by behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic
posts, I wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the
amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same
wish of him." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221

3- amicus_curious (COLA): "Where on earth do you get the
idea that I am arguing with you, little man? Is your name
"Hadron"? Shoo! Go back to your mail order business!"
29 May 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/00ee203fe6183b1b

4- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the
truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep
disrupting the newsgroup." 27 Feb 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/52eab53a559e00ce

5- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers
to weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole."
25 Jun 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da

6- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member
of CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being
better than them, rise above the low level you so obviously
dislike. Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5

7- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If
yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on
you set to expire, but it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578

8- BaJoRi: "You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who
has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed
it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and
REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f

9- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this
group can be if you kill file Snit. I have never understood
why more people don't do the same.." 5 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903

10- Bob B.: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all
group, but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible
to have a decent discussion about anything. The solution is
to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just
can't stop feeding him." 27 Dec 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190

11- bunny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually
=3D:-( 9 Oct 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432

12- Brian: "LOL, Has anyone ever been more universally hated on
the USENET than Snit? Too bad he craves the hatred and negative
attention. We will read about him in the news some day soon
going on a shooting rampage. Somebody should get the pychopath
some help before he VT's a bunch of people. 29 May 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/66a89e4f5c89f489

13- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill, but you and
Steve don't help. You encourage him to post, which he doesn't
need to do. We would all be better off if you just ignore him.
17 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2ed879f256677548

14- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls'
.... in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the
idiotrollers like snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I
didn't see his posts, only your reply". 07 Aug 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5ea48f7a84115fd1

15- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time
for you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of
course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9

16- cc (COLA): "You are incapable of letting anything go. In
fact, I guarantee you will respond to this post in under 3
hours. Hell, I'd be surprised if it takes longer than 30
minutes. If I really wanted to, I could make this little
side topic go on forever, because you are a complete moron
who just has to respond to anything written about or to you,
even if it just means repeating yourself." 1 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3712090033411605

17- Chance Furlong: "HPT, Wally, Sandman, C Lund, Steve
Carroll and Tim Adams are not trolls and do not troll. You,
on the other hand, are a troll." 27 Aug 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/28c267f26965b43f

18- Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "I try to go more by the contents
of the posts. Although some clowns (e.g. Snit) spew out so
much chaff it is not worth the effort." 14 Feb 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8b6a982957c7c9d5

Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "Actually, many of the advocates are
sick to death of Snit's never-ending puerile blather about
trivialities. The occasional reasonable conversations are
too few and far between." 6 Mar 2011

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/811326833ba71864

19- Chris Clement: "ugh....geez man.....let it go" 5 Jul 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ed093996df6547b2

20- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so,
for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at
the bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated
flushes. It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can
still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5

21- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for
you to "win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't
like them. Why must you keep this up? What results are you
expecting?"

22- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process
them. Keep posting your list and proving that you are an idiot
troll. I will not address it any further- you being too stupid
to realize and accept that is not my problem". 22 Nov 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8

23- cshenk: "I happen to believe him over you... and I doubt
I'd be the only person in this ng to do so. You have given
people a lot of 'evidence' that you are dishonest... as
'evidenced' by the quotes list." .... "Why stop with
Jonas? Why not call the entire list of people on your quotes
list 'liars'? After all, they have all labeled you a liar,
troll or worse." 27 Nov 2010

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/909a59de04850ef5

24- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care
to read] Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006


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Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
From: Mitchell Holman
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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:7c-
cnQ8HwLerDZL6nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com:

> On 10/15/24 23:26, Gronk wrote:
>> David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>   |
>>>>   | ...
>>>>   | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>>>   | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>>>   | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>>>   | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>>>   | Congress.
>>>>   | ...
>>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-
>>>> tax-returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>>
>>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>>
>> It's every bit our bnusiness to know if he has any
>> conflicts of interest and is honest.
>
> Unless there is clear evidence of such conflict (and thee isn't), the
> public has no business seeing the tax records of any politician.
>

The public has a right to know if
a candidate is a paid stooge for a
foreign government or a lobby group.

Subject: Re: Trump Still Refuses To Release His Tax Returns
From: Mitchell Holman
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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:7c-
cnQwHwLc5EpL6nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 10/15/24 13:11, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>> news:VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>> |
>>>> | ...
>>>> | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>>> | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>>> | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>>> | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>>> | Congress.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-
tax
>>>> -returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>>>
>>>> --bks
>>>
>>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Don't you believe in candidates
>> keeping promises.
>
> You are familiar with the phrase that those wo live in glass houses
> shouldn't throw stones? When it comes to political promises, you live
in
> a huge glass house.
>


That doesn't answer the question.

Don't you believe Trump should honor
his promises?

April 19, 2011: In an interview with ABC News,
Trump pledges to release his tax returns once
President Obama releases his long-form birth
certificate.

April 27, 2011: While contemplating a run
in the 2012 Republican primary, Trump tells
ABC News� Michael Falcone that he will
release his tax returns "at the appropriate
time."

May 20 2014: Trump says that if he runs for
office, he will absolutely release his
tax returns, in an interview with Ireland�s
TV3.

February 25, 2015: Trump tells conservative
radio host Hugh Hewitt that he has "no
objection" to releasing his tax returns.

January 24, 2016: On NBC�s Meet the Press,
Trump says that his campaign is working on
releasing his tax returns.

February 10, 2016: Trump tells NBC News that
he will release his tax returns over the next
few months.

May 8, 2016: On NBC�s Meet the Press, Trump
pledges to release his tax returns as soon
as the audit is over.

May 13, 2016: Trump tells ABC News that
voters do not have a right to see his tax
returns before the election, again saying
that he will present the returns once the
audit is over.

http://tinyurl.com/j6nvjls

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On 10/16/2024 3:04 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 10/15/24 13:11, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>> news:VZ6cnaHndqA3CZP6nZ2dnZfqnPiu4p2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 10/14/24 10:00, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>    |
>>>>    | ...
>>>>    | Neither he nor his running mate JD Vance have disclosed
>>>>    | their filings, and there's no sign they intend to, though
>>>>    | they could shed light on potential conflicts of interest
>>>>    | and personal stakes they have in legislation before
>>>>    | Congress.
>>>>    | ...
>>>> <https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-hasnt-released-his-tax
>>>> -returns-the-response-meh-00182874>
>>>>
>>>>       --bks
>>>
>>> So? His taxes are none of your business.
>>>
>>
>>
>>      Don't you believe in candidates
>> keeping promises.
>
> You are familiar with the phrase that [erase rest of digression]

Just answer the question: shouldn't Trump keep his promises? He doesn't "have"
to release his medical records or his tax returns, but if he *promises* to
release them, shouldn't he release them?

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