|
| The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
|
| When the former president endorses violence and proposes
| using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
| supporters assume it's just an act.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rhetoric.html>

--bks

> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
> |
> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
> | supporters assume it's just an act.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
>etoric.html>
>
> --bks

Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
American values and the USA.

On 2024-10-14 12:37:22 +0000, Trock said:

>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
>> |
>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
>> etoric.html>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
> American values and the USA.

Trump is the symptom, Republicans are the disease. He'd be making a
living selling his ghostwritten memoir right now if they didn't keep
propping him up.

It took 40 years to devolve to this state but the Republican party is
damaged beyond repair, they need to go the way of the Whigs and
hopefully have a more rational and less cynical one rise up in its
place.

Actually four or five parties who can draw support equally would be
best, this two-party system with all the gerrymandering and
unrestrained dark money (thank you equally corrupt SCOTUS) going on is
killing us.

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:vej21q$na6$1@panix3.panix.com:

> |
> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
> |
> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
> | supporters assume it's just an act.
> | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme
> -rhetoric.html>
>
> --bks
>

Conservatives: Trump said it, he means it.

Also Conservatives: Trump was just kidding,
he doesn't really mean it, you just don't
get his sense of humor.

super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in
news:vej5k1$175o7$1@dont-email.me:

> On 2024-10-14 12:37:22 +0000, Trock said:
>
>>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
>>> |
>>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
>>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
>>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extre
>>> me-rh etoric.html>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who
>> hate American values and the USA.
>
> Trump is the symptom, Republicans are the disease. He'd be making a
> living selling his ghostwritten memoir right now if they didn't keep
> propping him up.

The worst part of Trumpism is not Trump,
it is the underlying torrent of hatred in
Americans that he has legitimized. He could
go on a rant about Jews and blacks and Catholics
(like the old American Party) and not lose a
single voter. We have a ugly past, and far from
overcoming it he is exploiting it.
Lincoln appealed to the "better angels
of our mercy", Trump appeals to the Dark Side
Of The Force.

> It took 40 years to devolve to this state but the Republican party is
> damaged beyond repair, they need to go the way of the Whigs and
> hopefully have a more rational and less cynical one rise up in its
> place.

The GOP may never recover from Trump. With
his family running the GOP and all Republicans
groveling to him there is much room for a
legitimate conservative party to form in the
wake of his damage.

super70s wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-10-14 12:37:22 +0000, Trock said:
>
>>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
>>> |
>>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
>>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
>>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
>>> etoric.html>
>>
>> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
>> American values and the USA.
>
> Trump is the symptom, Republicans are the disease. He'd be making a
> living selling his ghostwritten memoir right now if they didn't keep
> propping him up.
>
> It took 40 years to devolve to this state but the Republican party is
> damaged beyond repair, they need to go the way of the Whigs and
> hopefully have a more rational and less cynical one rise up in its
> place.

Unfortunately the rest of us are collateral damage. :-(

> Actually four or five parties who can draw support equally would be
> best, this two-party system with all the gerrymandering and
> unrestrained dark money (thank you equally corrupt SCOTUS) going on is
> killing us.

From three of the SCOTUS who said Roe v Wade was "settled law".

--
Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Godel's Theorem.
-- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

In article <vejdai$18hsi$1@dont-email.me>, OFeem1987@teleworm.us says...
>
> super70s wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
> > On 2024-10-14 12:37:22 +0000, Trock said:
> >
> >>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
> >>> |
> >>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
> >>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
> >>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
> >>> | ...
> >>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
> >>> etoric.html>
> >>
> >> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
> >> American values and the USA.
> >
> > Trump is the symptom, Republicans are the disease. He'd be making a
> > living selling his ghostwritten memoir right now if they didn't keep
> > propping him up.
> >
> > It took 40 years to devolve to this state but the Republican party is
> > damaged beyond repair, they need to go the way of the Whigs and
> > hopefully have a more rational and less cynical one rise up in its
> > place.
>
> Unfortunately the rest of us are collateral damage. :-(

Aw, do you feel damaged?
>
> > Actually four or five parties who can draw support equally would be
> > best, this two-party system with all the gerrymandering and
> > unrestrained dark money (thank you equally corrupt SCOTUS) going on is
> > killing us.
>
> From three of the SCOTUS who said Roe v Wade was "settled law".

Cry a river.

https://wreg.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2024/10/Travious-Fox_Mugshot.jpg?w=900
Travious Fox

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (WMC) - The Memphis Police Department is searching for a murder suspect accused of shooting and killing a victim.

On September 11, around 8:09 p.m., officers responded to a shooting call on Ridgehill Drive.

Officers located victim Gabriel Burton suffering from multiple gunshot wounds.

Burton was transported to a nearby hospital by ambulance but succumbed to his wounds and later died at the hospital.

During the investigation, detectives developed Travious Fox as a suspect, and a warrant for Second Degree Murder was issued for his arrest.

Travious Fox is described as a Black male, 34 years old, with medium length dreadlock hair.

The public’s assistance is needed to locate Travious Fox, who is responsible

https://www.actionnews5.com/2024/10/13/murder-suspect-run-after-shooting-rigdehill-drive-police-say/

https://media.tegna-media.com/assets/WATN/images/2d99b9fa-9911-4065-a246-f75632cf7aa3/2d99b9fa-9911-4065-a246-f75632cf7aa3_1920x1080.jpg
Justin James

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (localmemphis.com) – A Memphis manis charged with rape, but reportedly told police it was “urban love” role play.

30-year-old Justin James is charged with rape after the victim told police that June 20th, James had blocked her in a doorway, pushed her down on a bed, held her down,and forced her to have sex.

The next day, officers were called back to the scene when James returned. They took him in for questioning, where according to court records, he denied it was assault. According to police, James told investigators that he and the victim would sometimes roleplay, saying “no means yes. It’s urban love. I know a judge won’t believe thisbecause they don’t understand urban love.”

James is out of jail on $50,000 bond.

https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/crime/police-memphis-man-charged-with-rape-says-it-wasnt-assault-it-was-urban-love/522-17515790-2b6f-4935-b8f4-ed8a5a38c6c2

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — A judge has set a trial date for a man accused of raping a woman a year before he was charged with kidnapping a school teacher during an early morning run and killing her. Shelby County Judge Lee Coffee scheduled an April 8 trial for Cleotha Abston, who is charged with kidnapping and raping a woman in September 2021. That’s a year before he was charged with abducting Eliza Fletcher as she jogged near the University of Memphis campus and killing her. He has pleaded not guilty in both cases. Authorities say Abston was not arrested on the rape charges before Fletcher’s killing because of a long delay in processing the sexual assault kit.

https://wpcdn.us-east-1.vip.tn-cloud.net/www.wbbjtv.com/content/uploads/2023/10/x/j/mgn-1280x960-20906p00-qedab-768x576.jpg

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — A judge on Thursday set a trial date for a man accused of raping a woman a year before he was charged with kidnapping and killing a school teacher who was on an early morning run.

Cleotha Abston was not arrested on the rape charges before Eliza Fletcher’s killing because of a long delay in processing the sexual assault kit, authorities have said. Abston, 39, has pleaded not guilty in both cases.

Shelby County Judge Lee Coffee scheduled an April 8 trial for Abston on the charges of kidnapping and raping a woman in September 2021. Abston is charged with snatching Fletcher from a street near the University of Memphis on Sept. 2, 2022, and forcing her into an SUV. Her body was found days later near a vacant duplex.

Abston, who also has used the name Cleotha Henderson, was charged with the 2021 rape days after he was charged with Fletcher’s killing.

The April rape trial will take place before the trial in the Fletcher case. Prosecutors say they will pursue the death penalty if Abston is convicted of first-degree murder, but no trial date has been set in that case.

The killing of Fletcher, a 34-year-old kindergarten teacher and mother of two, shocked the Memphis community led to a flood of support for her family. Runners in Memphis and several other cities held an early-morning running event in her honor a week after she was abducted. A second run honoring Fletcher was held this year.

Abston was arrested after police detected his DNA on sandals found near the location where Fletcher was last seen, an arrest affidavit said. An autopsy report showed Fletcher died of a gunshot wound to the head. She also had injuries to her right leg and jaw fractures.

After Fletcher’s death, the Legislature passed a law requiring the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to issue a quarterly report on sexual assault kit testing times.

Abston’s lawyer, Juni Ganguli, has filed a change of venue motion seeking to have jurors from the Nashville area hear the rape case. Ganguli says heavy media coverage and social media commentary threaten Abston’s ability to receive a fair trial if Memphis-area jurors are used.

Ganguli said social media comments about news stories in the Fletcher case have been overwhelmingly negative and toxic.

“I understand people are angry. That’s not lost on me,” Ganguli said. “With that said, in order to ensure that this man gets a fair trial, that the system works, you’ve got have a fair and impartial jury.”

https://www.wbbjtv.com/2023/10/13/trial-set-for-memphis-man-accused-of-raping-a-woman-a-year-before-eliza-fletchers-killing/

On 10/14/2024 5:37 AM, Trock wrote:
>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
>> |
>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
>> etoric.html>
>>
>> --bks
>
> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
> American values and the USA.

That is *exactly* right. There have always been reactionary knuckle-dragging
degenerates like Trumpswabs in the country — always. They despise tolerance,
fair play, decency and the rule of law. The country has always been plagued with
this type of miscreant.

Fake AlleyCat wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 10/14/2024 5:37 AM, Trock wrote:
>
>>> | The Trump Voters Who Don't Believe Trump
>>> |
>>> | When the former president endorses violence and proposes
>>> | using the government to attack his enemies, many of his
>>> | supporters assume it's just an act.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/elections/trump-promises-extreme-rh
>>> etoric.html>
>>>
>>> --bks
>>
>> Most of them cheer Trump on because like him, they're traitors who hate
>> American values and the USA.
>
> That is *exactly* right. There have always been reactionary knuckle-dragging
> degenerates like Trumpswabs in the country — always. They despise tolerance,
> fair play, decency and the rule of law. The country has always been plagued
> with this type of miscreant.

And Trump kicked away the solid wood, revealing the dead wood,
and let them loose.

And, sadly, they comprise roughly half the voters. Putin is smirking.

https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/

“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter
anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to
assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower
him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with
pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him
[a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he
[receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his
balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy]
of the situation of demoralization.”

It’s hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We
have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out
rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.

--
Perhaps, after all, America never has been discovered. I myself would
say that it had merely been detected.
-- Oscar Wilde