On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:05:52 -0700, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <JDTfP.922637$bYV2.467399@fx17.iad>, joelcrump@gmail.com
>says...
>>
>> On 1/9/2025 4:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> > On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> % wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>> >>>>>>> In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> >>>>>>> cleetis@gmail.com says...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Key Findings
>> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
>> >>>>>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>> >>>>>>>>>>> governments.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
>> >>>>>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
>> >>>>>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>> >>>>>>>>>>> tax revenue.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --bks
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
>> >>>>>>>>> are...illegal?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
>> >>>>>>>> July 30 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
>> >>>>>>>> billion in federal, state, and local
>> >>>>>>>> taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
>> >>>>>>>> $59.4 billion, was paid to the
>> >>>>>>>> federal government while the
>> >>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
>> >>>>>>>> state and local governments.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
>> >>>>>>>> state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>> >>>>>>>> person in 2022. In other words, for
>> >>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented
>> >>>>>>>> immigrants who reside in the country,
>> >>>>>>>> public services receive $8.9 billion
>> >>>>>>>> in additional tax revenue.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> More than a third of the tax dollars
>> >>>>>>>> paid by undocumented immigrants go
>> >>>>>>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to
>> >>>>>>>> funding programs that these workers
>> >>>>>>>> are barred from accessing.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
>> >>>>>>>> billion in Social Security taxes,
>> >>>>>>>> $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
>> >>>>>>>> $1.8 billion in unemployment
>> >>>>>>>> insurance taxes in 2022.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Six states raised more than $1 billion
>> >>>>>>>> each in tax revenue from undocumented
>> >>>>>>>> immigrants living within their borders.
>> >>>>>>>> Those states are California ($8.5
>> >>>>>>>> billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
>> >>>>>>>> York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
>> >>>>>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
>> >>>>>>>> and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
>> >>>>>>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
>> >>>>>>>> Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
>> >>>>>>>> july 30 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
>> >>>>>>>> Billion in State and Local Taxes
>> >>>>>>>> in 2022
>> >>>>>>>> AUGUST 6, 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
>> >>>>>>>> Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
>> >>>>>>>> July 30, 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >> https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> they aren't because they have no taxable income
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You think immigrants don't pay
>> >>>>> sales taxes and property taxes and
>> >>>>> payroll taxes?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>> >>>
>> >>> Most are not working under the table.
>> >>>
>> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>> >>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>> >>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>> >>> governments.
>> >>>
>> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>> >>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
>> >>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>> >>> tax revenue.
>> >>>
>> >>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
>> >>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
>> >>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
>> >>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
>> >>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>> >>>
>> >>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.
>>
>> A regular occurrence.
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Interesting given that I asked several obvious question [sic] above that you
>> > refused to answer and ran from.
>> >
>> >
>> > From the stupid ITEP "study":
>>
>> The study is legitimate.
>>
>> >
>> > "To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
>> > for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
>> > undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEP?s
>> > comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
>> > arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
>> > the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
>> > as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrants?
>> > payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
>> > growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
>> > these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
>> >
>> > "
>> >
>> > Translation: They GUESSED.
>>
>> Wrong. They estimated using valid statistical techniques that you don't know
>> anything about. You are innumerate.
>>
>> >
>> > No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
>> > be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>>
>> I've been working at my current employer since 2019. I never did complete the
>> I-9 employment eligibility verification form. It was too cumbersome. All income
>> and payroll taxes have been deducted from my pay.
>>
>> Undocumented immigrants pay many billions in taxes.
>
>How? What SSN do they use?

In article <vlqg16$3skag$1@dont-email.me>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
says...
>
> Governor Swill wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 06:30:23 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> NoBody wrote:
> >>> No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
> >>> be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
> >>
> >> Employers collect the taxes, idiot.
> >
> > But one wonders, do they pass them onto Uncle Sam?
> >
>
> And risk the IRS discovering they deduct taxes but do not forward
> them to IRS and SSA.

Like that never happens? LOL

On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 07:43:11 -0700, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <XnsB262530C76AD2629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>says...
>>
>> Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote in news:vloca6$3bcm5$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> How many illegals was Reagan talking about in 1986?? My guess is the
>> >>> number is much higher now, especially after what Biden has done.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And what are all those illegals doing?
>> >
>> > Raping women, lighting people on fire, stealing, working for cash and
>> > not paying taxes, and sending money home. Costing this country millions
>> > for education, medical, and housing. Need to hear more??
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Undocumented immigrants far less likely
>> to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens
>> December 7, 2020
>> http://tinyurl.com/2ru8d87a
>>
>>
>>
>> Immigrants Are Less Likely To Commit
>> Homicide, Sex Crimes, and Larceny Than
>> Native-Born Americans
>> 5.13.2021
>> http://tinyurl.com/yc5p73hb
>
>Your sources seem questionable.

Aren't they always?

On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:04:52 -0700, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <oDTfP.922636$bYV2.191503@fx17.iad>, chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com
>says...
>>
>> On 1/9/2025 4:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> > On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:36:25 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cune I. Form wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/7/2025 7:27 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Most are not working under the table.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>    Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>> >>>>    in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>> >>>>    government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>> >>>>    governments.
>> >>>>>    https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kremlin Girl is facts-averse. Her main purpose is to inject
>> >>> as much FUD as possible. Nothing else.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> True. She lies even when she
>> >> doesn't have to. Bizarre.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Interesting that you can't tell us how illegals, who have no I-9's or
>> > valid work permits get legally hired and pay payroll taxes.
>>
>> You fucking dope: they *aren't* legally hired. But they are hired, and their
>> employers deduct income and payroll taxes from their pay.
>
>So when the employers turn it over to the government who do they say
>it's coming from? What SSN do they use?

Don't reply to Rudely when he posts under other names. It just
encourages the child. Use of a killfile is quite helpful. But thanks
for replying so I can see the child is still demanding attention.

On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:12:02 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:36:25 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Cune I. Form wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2025 7:27 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> > On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>>> >
>>> > Most are not working under the table.
>>> >
>>> >    Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>>> >    in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>>> >    government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> >    governments.
>>> >>    https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>> >
>>> > You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>>>
>>> Kremlin Girl is facts-averse. Her main purpose is to inject
>>> as much FUD as possible. Nothing else.
>>
>>
>>
>> True. She lies even when she
>>doesn't have to. Bizarre.
>>
>
>Interesting that you can't tell us how illegals, who have no I-9's or
>valid work permits get legally hired and pay payroll taxes. Want to
>give it another try?
>
>And speaking of lies....
>
>On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:04:01 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>"And op-ed piece with no proof. "
>forgetting that the "op-ed" (that was a news story) referecned
>studies.

And Lying Lee has fled.

On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:17:43 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Siri Cruise wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> >On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > % wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Skeeter wrote:
>>> > > > > In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> > > > > cleetis@gmail.com says...
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > NoBody wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>>> Key Findings
>>> >>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
>>> >>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
>>> >>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
>>> >>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> >>>>>>>> governments.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
>>> >>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
>>> >>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
>>> >>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>> >>>>>>>> tax revenue.
>>> >>>>>>>> ...
>>> > > > > > > > <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>> --bks
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
>>> > > > > > > are...illegal?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
>>> > > > > > July 30 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
>>> > > > > > billion in federal, state, and local
>>> > > > > > taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
>>> > > > > > $59.4 billion, was paid to the
>>> > > > > > federal government while the
>>> > > > > > remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
>>> > > > > > state and local governments.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
>>> > > > > > state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>> > > > > > person in 2022. In other words, for
>>> > > > > > every 1 million undocumented
>>> > > > > > immigrants who reside in the country,
>>> > > > > > public services receive $8.9 billion
>>> > > > > > in additional tax revenue.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > More than a third of the tax dollars
>>> > > > > > paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>> > > > > > toward payroll taxes dedicated to
>>> > > > > > funding programs that these workers
>>> > > > > > are barred from accessing.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
>>> > > > > > billion in Social Security taxes,
>>> > > > > > $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
>>> > > > > > $1.8 billion in unemployment
>>> > > > > > insurance taxes in 2022.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Six states raised more than $1 billion
>>> > > > > > each in tax revenue from undocumented
>>> > > > > > immigrants living within their borders.
>>> > > > > > Those states are California ($8.5
>>> > > > > > billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
>>> > > > > > York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
>>> >>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
>>> > > > > > and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
>>> > > > > > https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
>>> > > > > > Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
>>> > > > > > july 30 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > >
>>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
>>> > > > > > Billion in State and Local Taxes
>>> > > > > > in 2022
>>> > > > > > AUGUST 6, 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
>>> > > > > > Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
>>> > > > > > July 30, 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > >
>>https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > they aren't because they have no taxable income
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >> You think immigrants don't pay
>>> > > sales taxes and property taxes and
>>> > > payroll taxes?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>>>
>>> Most are not working under the table.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> governments.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
>>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>> tax revenue.
>>>
>>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
>>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
>>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
>>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
>>>
>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>>
>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Interesting given that I asked several obvious question above that you
>refused to answer and ran from.
>
>
>From the stupid ITEP "study":
>
>"To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
>for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
>undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEP’s
>comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
>arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
>the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
>as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrants’
>payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
>growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
>these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
>
>"
>
>Translation: They GUESSED.
>
>No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
>be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>
>
>Good grief....
>
>>

Joel wrote:
> I have a severe mental illness.
>
>
https://postimg.cc/nsGK5DfJ

On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:07:54 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 05:56:22 -0800, Siri Cruise
><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 22:51:14 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 06:30:23 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
>>>>>>> be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Employers collect the taxes, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> But one wonders, do they pass them onto Uncle Sam?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And risk the IRS discovering they deduct taxes but do not forward
>>>> them to IRS and SSA.
>>>
>>> Stupid Siri thinks that illegalls who are hired get paid over the
>>> table. You don't tax what you don't report.
>>>
>>> Duh....
>>>
>>
>>A business has to pay taxes on undeclared wages; IRS will not
>>accept those as a business expense unless declared. The business
>>has to collect income tax and FICA et cetera and risks punishment
>>if it gets caught defrauding workers and government.
>
>Show us *direct data* that illegal aliens pay the payroll tax - not
>"studies". While you're at it, explain how illegals, who don't have
>SSNs, I-9's etc that are required are considered hired employees.
>
>
>This should be good.

And the cowardly drunk has run away.

On 1/12/2025 6:25 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:07:54 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 05:56:22

Fuck off, you little mackerel-reeking cunt.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote in news:vloo56$3djo5$1@dont-email.me:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote in news:vloca6$3bcm5$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>>> How many illegals was Reagan talking about in 1986?? My guess is
>>>>>> the number is much higher now, especially after what Biden has
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what are all those illegals doing?
>>>>
>>>> Raping women, lighting people on fire, stealing, working for cash
>>>> and not paying taxes, and sending money home. Costing this country
>>>> millions for education, medical, and housing. Need to hear more??
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants far less likely
>>> to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens
>>> December 7, 2020
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2ru8d87a
>>
>> You *DO* realize that the year is presently 2025, and since December
>> 2020, *MILLIONS* of illegals have been allowed to enter by our senile
>> president. Saying that it is not a problem when 4 or 5 years have
>> past, is like stating that the weather in LA is clear and beautiful.
>
> Show us the percent of crimes committed
> by illegals since 2021, if you think that
> makes a difference.

Silence.

>>> Immigrants Are Less Likely To Commit
>>> Homicide, Sex Crimes, and Larceny Than
>>> Native-Born Americans
>>> 5.13.2021
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yc5p73hb

Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:vm2c64$1m76l$1@dont-
email.me:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote in news:vloo56$3djo5$1@dont-email.me:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote in news:vloca6$3bcm5$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>>> How many illegals was Reagan talking about in 1986?? My guess is
>>>>>>> the number is much higher now, especially after what Biden has
>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what are all those illegals doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Raping women, lighting people on fire, stealing, working for cash
>>>>> and not paying taxes, and sending money home. Costing this country
>>>>> millions for education, medical, and housing. Need to hear more??
>>>>
>>>> Undocumented immigrants far less likely
>>>> to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens
>>>> December 7, 2020
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2ru8d87a
>>>
>>> You *DO* realize that the year is presently 2025, and since December
>>> 2020, *MILLIONS* of illegals have been allowed to enter by our senile
>>> president. Saying that it is not a problem when 4 or 5 years have
>>> past, is like stating that the weather in LA is clear and beautiful.
>>
>> Show us the percent of crimes committed
>> by illegals since 2021, if you think that
>> makes a difference.
>
> Silence.
>
>>>> Immigrants Are Less Likely To Commit
>>>> Homicide, Sex Crimes, and Larceny Than
>>>> Native-Born Americans
>>>> 5.13.2021
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yc5p73hb
>

- also -

Mass Deportation - Devastating Costs to
America, Its Budget and Economy
Oct 2 2024

Due to the loss of workers across U.S.
industries, we found that mass deportation
would reduce the U.S. gross domestic product
(GDP) by 4.2 to 6.8 percent. It would also
result in significant reduction in tax
revenues for the U.S. government. In 2022
alone, undocumented immigrant households
paid $46.8 billion in federal taxes and
$29.3 billion in state and local taxes.
Undocumented immigrants also contributed
$22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7
billion to Medicare.

Mass deportations would cause significant
labor shocks across multiple key industries,
with especially acute impacts on construction,
agriculture, and the hospitality sector. We
estimate that nearly 14 percent of people
employed in the construction industry are
undocumented. Removing that labor would
disrupt all forms of construction across
the nation, from homes to businesses to
basic infrastructure. As industries suffer,
hundreds of thousands of U.S.-born workers
could lose their jobs.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

Mitchell Holman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> Mass Deportation - Devastating Costs to
> America, Its Budget and Economy
> Oct 2 2024
>
> Due to the loss of workers across U.S. industries, we found that mass
> deportation would reduce the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) by 4.2 to 6.8
> percent. It would also result in significant reduction in tax revenues for
> the U.S. government. In 2022 alone, undocumented immigrant households paid
> $46.8 billion in federal taxes and $29.3 billion in state and local taxes.
> Undocumented immigrants also contributed $22.6 billion to Social Security and
> $5.7 billion to Medicare.
>
> Mass deportations would cause significant labor shocks across multiple key
> industries, with especially acute impacts on construction, agriculture, and
> the hospitality sector. We estimate that nearly 14 percent of people employed
> in the construction industry are undocumented. Removing that labor would
> disrupt all forms of construction across the nation, from homes to businesses
> to basic infrastructure. As industries suffer, hundreds of thousands of
> U.S.-born workers could lose their jobs.
>
> https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

Trump, Muskrat, and the Swami don't care. They'll be fine.

As an aside, Trump's tax cuts are set to expire in 2025. After his presumed
second term. Interesting.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Mass Deportation - Devastating Costs to
> America, Its Budget and Economy
> Oct 2 2024
>
> Due to the loss of workers across U.S.
> industries, we found that mass deportation
> would reduce the U.S. gross domestic product
> (GDP) by 4.2 to 6.8 percent. It would also
> result in significant reduction in tax
> revenues for the U.S. government. In 2022
> alone, undocumented immigrant households
> paid $46.8 billion in federal taxes and
> $29.3 billion in state and local taxes.
> Undocumented immigrants also contributed
> $22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7
> billion to Medicare.

Hate is expensive. That is why red states need so much fedeal charity.

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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:10:11 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote:

>As an aside, Trump's tax cuts are set to expire in 2025. After his presumed
>second term. Interesting.

*blinks*

I forgot about that! They're going to expire *during* his second term!

Consider his petard hoisted.

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