again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.

"kami" <f00@0f0.00f> wrote in message news:r8ztnxp8eum9.dlg@tomato.potato...
>
> again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
> of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.

I would say 21 as that is the age in which they are fully and adult and the
parents no longer have any say, or responsibility, for their actions.

kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

>again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
>of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.

It's never done below the age of 16, rarely before 18. This isn't a
real problem, just a rhetorical point for the phobes, dishonestly.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:04:24 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>
>>again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
>>of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.
>
>
>It's never done below the age of 16, rarely before 18. This isn't a
>real problem, just a rhetorical point for the phobes, dishonestly.

Much like 'partial birth' abortion.

Republicans aren't pro children, they're pro birth.
Once that baby is in utero, they don't care if you have health care.
What do they care about pre natal care?
They don't.
And once that baby's born, they don't want that baby on welfare.
They don't want that baby to have access to health care.
And when that kid's in school, they don't want them to have access to free food.
They don't want there to be government sponsored maternity and paternity leave.
They don't want there to be government sponsored daycare facilities so that we
can have a better daycare program here in the United States.
They don't give a shit what happens to your kids.
They don't give a shit so much that hey will actually not even pass gun
legislation, even though the number one killer of children in this country is
not cancer it's actually guns.
They don't do anything to extend the lives of children.
They don't do anything to make the lives of children better.
They don't care about kids. What they care about is controlling women.
And that's it. That's what they care about. They care about controlling women.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/16ocFVqQil4>

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.

11) Trump's failed pandemic response caused the needless
deaths of hundreds of thousands. By the time he left office,
three thousand were dying every day.

12) Trump's White House scrapped the emergency pandemic
playbook that had been assembled by the Obama administration.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:04:24 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>
>>again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
>>of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.
>
>
>It's never done below the age of 16, rarely before 18. This isn't a
>real problem, just a rhetorical point for the phobes, dishonestly.

Citations please?
Honestly hormone therapy should not be used before 18 either.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bi98fj1k96moli4ks9omiqkl956knn0jdt@4ax.com...
> kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>
>>again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
>>of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.
>
>
> It's never done below the age of 16, rarely before 18. This isn't a
> real problem, just a rhetorical point for the phobes, dishonestly.

Frankly it should be illegal below 18. Under 18 it's child abuse. It is
unnecessary and purely elective cosmetic surgery.

If it must be done let the court ordered and the Court will need to pay for
this massively expenses unnecessary elective cosmetic surgery and any future
costs than may result from it.

Between 18-21 I'm not sure how that would work, but if the parents say 'no'
then the above conditions above would apply. If they chose to proceed, then
a Court would have to render an independent judgment for the minor as to the
acceptability of such, and the parents would have to accept whatever
current and future costs and liabilities that might exist due to this to
whatever amount the judge decides. If they don't like that decision they can
still say 'no'.

After 21 the person can mutilate their body however they want as long as
they can afford to pay for it. The parents would have no legal obligation to
be involved or provide funds to do so nor would they ever be liable for such
a decision or the ramifications of that decision even if taken to court, as
they are now a legal adult and totally responsible for their own decisions
and the consequences of those decisions.

In short. once you are a legal adult you can make your own decisions and
assume the expense and results of those decisions.

As a minor, your parents/law decide. If it's a matter of law, then the
parents should not be liable for any part of it, including monetary.

On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:02:13 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>Frankly it should be illegal below 18. Under 18 it's child abuse. It is
>unnecessary and purely elective cosmetic surgery.

Imo the age should be 21 with a minimum five year counseling program to be sure
this is the correct decision.

Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three full
years before any transition surgery should be attempted.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/43X0rWobeQw>

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 40 days.

13) Trump disbanded the National Security Council's
pandemic response team.

14) Trump repeatedly lied about the danger of covid
saying it was no worse than the flue or that it would
go away on its own.

But behind closed doors, Trump admitted it was deadly.

NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 11:04:24 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>kami <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
>>
>>>again cant find the original, but i think only those over the age
>>>of 18 should be allowed to cut their peepee.
>>
>>It's never done below the age of 16, rarely before 18. This isn't a
>>real problem, just a rhetorical point for the phobes, dishonestly.
>
>Citations please?

I know what I'm talking about, I was referring to within the U.S.,
though, it should be noted.

>Honestly hormone therapy should not be used before 18 either.

No.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:02:13 -0500, "Scout"
><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Frankly it should be illegal below 18. Under 18 it's child abuse. It is
>>unnecessary and purely elective cosmetic surgery.
>
>Imo the age should be 21 with a minimum five year counseling program to be sure
>this is the correct decision.
>
>Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three full
>years before any transition surgery should be attempted.

And that's why you aren't me.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
>> itations please?
>
> I know what I'm talking about,

You are a worthless leftarded lying cunt - fuck off and die!

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Joel wrote:
>> Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three full
>> years before any transition surgery should be attempted.
>
> And that's why you aren't me.

Is your fake pussy working yet?
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Governor Swill wrote:
> What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

You take a gander at your history here:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

@Multiple death threats against Trump@
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>> I know what I'm talking about [regarding gender transition ages],
>
>You are a worthless leftarded lying cunt - fuck off and die!

You can make me, if you think you can.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>> Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three full
>>> years before any transition surgery should be attempted.
>>
>> And that's why you aren't me.
>
>Is your fake pussy working yet?

I'm not trans. But if I were, I wouldn't need a "fake pussy", because
having this surgery isn't what makes one genuinely trans.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>> I'm not God.
>>>
>>> But His will will come to pass.
>>
>> Look at my first and last initials below - I definitely am doing "His"
>> will.
>
>You are not of God, that much is evident.

Guess again, I'm the second coming of Christ. The New Testament talks
explicitly about me.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>> Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three full
>>>> years before any transition surgery should be attempted.
>>>
>>> And that's why you aren't me.
>>
>> Is your fake pussy working yet?
>
>
> I'm not trans. But if I were,

Ha!

I knew you had a man-pussy.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>> I know what I'm talking about [regarding gender transition ages],
>>
>> You are a worthless leftarded lying cunt - fuck off and die!
>
>
> You can make me, if you think you can.
>

I'm not God.

But His will will come to pass.
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>> Is your fake pussy working yet?
>>
>> I'm not trans. But if I were,
>
>Ha!
>
>I knew you had a man-pussy.

You mean my ass? I've long since admitted being more of a bottom.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>>> I know what I'm talking about [regarding gender transition ages],
>>>
>>> You are a worthless leftarded lying cunt - fuck off and die!
>>
>> You can make me, if you think you can.
>
>I'm not God.
>
>But His will will come to pass.

Look at my first and last initials below - I definitely am doing "His"
will.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>> Is your fake pussy working yet?
>>>
>>> I'm not trans. But if I were,
>>
>> Ha!
>>
>> I knew you had a man-pussy.
>
>
> You mean my ass? I've long since admitted being more of a bottom.
>

Ick!

<gag reflex>
--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>>> I know what I'm talking about [regarding gender transition ages],
>>>>
>>>> You are a worthless leftarded lying cunt - fuck off and die!
>>>
>>> You can make me, if you think you can.
>>
>> I'm not God.
>>
>> But His will will come to pass.
>
>
> Look at my first and last initials below - I definitely am doing "His"
> will.
>

You are not of God, that much is evident.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Joel wrote:
> Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:
>
>>>> I'm not God.
>>>>
>>>> But His will will come to pass.
>>>
>>> Look at my first and last initials below - I definitely am doing "His"
>>> will.
>>
>> You are not of God, that much is evident.
>
>
> Guess again, I'm the second coming of Christ. The New Testament talks
> explicitly about me.

Oh does it, where?

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Mittens Romney <robberbaron@invalid.ut> wrote:

>>>>> I'm not God.
>>>>>
>>>>> But His will will come to pass.
>>>>
>>>> Look at my first and last initials below - I definitely am doing "His"
>>>> will.
>>>
>>> You are not of God, that much is evident.
>>
>> Guess again, I'm the second coming of Christ. The New Testament talks
>> explicitly about me.
>
>Oh does it, where?

https://i.imgur.com/Z0pzwUO.png

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cb3bfjh23i4pdotifl2lbdsbtvuatu9mi4@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:02:13 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Frankly it should be illegal below 18. Under 18 it's child abuse. It is
>>unnecessary and purely elective cosmetic surgery.
>
> Imo the age should be 21 with a minimum five year counseling program to be
> sure
> this is the correct decision.

Well once they are 21 and sign a quit claim against any liability to anyone
and everything. It's on them. I would hope they would deeply and seriously
examine the consequences of this, but as long as they don't try to blame or
hold others liable for their decision... to the point they could be sued if
they attempt to do so... I'm good with it. Let them come out and tell the
others how stupid they were and how this is NOT the thing to do. Would do
far more than anything we could come up with to advise them.

> Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three
> full
> years before any transition surgery should be attempted.

I would hope they are already doing so, but once they are 21 and assume sole
and total liability for their choices and actions.. They can skydive off a
bridge with a rope tied to their dick.. for all I care. Indeed, they could
become the best advocates AGAINST this.. Sometimes you have to let people
screw it up because that's the only way they will see just how bad it is. As
long as they aren't dragging down the rest of us. go for it. I will sit on
the beach with a drink watching.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 10:02:13 -0500, "Scout"
>><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Frankly it should be illegal below 18. Under 18 it's child abuse. It is
>>>unnecessary and purely elective cosmetic surgery.
>>
>>Imo the age should be 21 with a minimum five year counseling program to be
>>sure
>>this is the correct decision.
>>
>>Further, the patient must live as their chosen gender for at least three
>>full
>>years before any transition surgery should be attempted.
>
>
> And that's why you aren't me.

Good thing too.. We don't need more idiots in the world.