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Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Jack Sovalot
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Joel wrote:
> punk-bitch red-pill idiot?
>
>
https://postimg.cc/LqpVVVcV

Yep.

GUFFAW!

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Jack Sovalot
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Joel wrote:
> a piece of shit.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/jasmine.morales.7587
>
>
Indeed.

GUFFAW!

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Governor Swill
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:31:44 -0500, Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot>
wrote:

>The unemployed faggot has spoken.
>
>https://postimg.cc/zbsxh1Fx

Your back!

What an ugly rash on your butt.

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Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Governor Swill
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 11:56:43 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>[DXM] has use as a cough suppressant, that doesn't detract from its
>>>psychedelic properties.
>>
>>I had a buddy who preferred a bottle of Nyquil to a cold beer at the end of a
>>tough day. Firsthand: shit WERKS.
>
>
>You do realize NyQuil has APAP in it?

Whatever that is. What was in it in 1970? That's the last time I took any. I
know it was 20% ABV at the time.

NP: Go West - Don't Look Down Girl (the sequel)
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Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 06:55:24 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Siri Cruise wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> pothead wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen people spin current numbers back to the 50's and 60's where the
>>> country was at it's peak at least as far as quality of life is concerned
>>
>> Unless you were black.
>
>Or a woman, not allowed to have a credit card.

Does quality of life include brown air, black snow and burning rivers?

NP: Deep Purple - Maybe I'm A Leo (live)
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Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>>>the 50's and 60's where the country was at
>>>>it's peak at least as far as quality of life is concerned
>>>
>>> Oh sure, we'll wish for that to come back, are you insane? You don't
>>> like having the technology we have, now?
>>>
>>Of course not.
>>I'm talking about having an average job, a decent wage, being able to
>>afford a house in the burbs,
>>pay for your kids to go to college, decent education, no wokie crap, boys
>>were boys
>>and girls were girls, being able to put food on the table and so forth.
>>
>>Try that these days.
>>Sure there were problems, racial tensions, Vietnam etc but OVERALL things
>>were much better
>>back then.
>>
>>At least until 1974 when Carter became POTUS at which point things turned
>>to shit.
>>Just like under Joe Biden.
>
>
> What is so bad, today? I just don't see it.

Well mental illness is rampant.... but of course as a victim of it, you
would never see it as anything but normal.

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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>> What is so bad, today? I just don't see it.
>>>
>>Of course you don't Joel.
>>Much like snit you are living on the dole off the government and the
>>taxpayer's money.
>
>
> My own situation is irrelevant.

Those with mental illnesses usually say that.

> There is nothing wrong with the
> economy. There's no crisis.

Fine, then you don't need money from the government then.....

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> What is so bad, today? I just don't see it.
>>>>>
>>>>Of course you don't Joel.
>>>>Much like snit you are living on the dole off the government and the
>>>>taxpayer's money.
>>>
>>> My own situation is irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with the
>>> economy. There's no crisis.
>>>
>>Sure.
>>Keep believing MSNBC and CNN.
>>
>><https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-the-reasons-for-voting-for-trump-and-harris/>
>
>
> I don't have cable TV. I hate cable news. I don't even like the
> broadcast networks' news, PBS/BBC are all I can take. I'm judging
> this by the indicators in the economy, Biden's administration has done
> fine.

23% inflation in 4 years.. Yea, that certainly is an indicator of a fine
government.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> wrote:
>>Joel wrote:
>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 04:11:20 -0500, Jack Sovalot
>>>>> <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [DXM] has use as a cough suppressant, that doesn't detract from its
>>>>>>> psychedelic properties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a job, drug addict.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got one. Selling drugs.
>>>>
>>>> Lil Pharma. No morals, just profits.
>>>>
>>>> Bonnie: I wonder how many heroin overdoses are murders.
>>>> Trots: All of them.
>>>
>>> The Mac user has spoken! Heh.
>>>
>>The unemployed faggot has spoken.
>>
>>https://postimg.cc/zbsxh1Fx
>
>
> You're a piece of shit.

Joel is mad because he just got bitch slapped by Jack

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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> wrote:
>
>>>> The unemployed faggot has spoken.
>>>>
>>>> https://postimg.cc/zbsxh1Fx
>>>
>>> You're a piece of shit.
>>>
>>You're a mentally ill leech.
>
>
> Wanna fight about it, punk-bitch red-pill idiot?

Is that were you shit yourself and assume the fetal defense posture?

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>[DXM] has use as a cough suppressant, that doesn't detract from its
>>>>psychedelic properties.
>>>
>>>I had a buddy who preferred a bottle of Nyquil to a cold beer at the end of a
>>>tough day. Firsthand: shit WERKS.
>>
>>You do realize NyQuil has APAP in it?
>
>Whatever that is.

It's a particular chemical name for Tylenol, i.e. what kills your
liver in an overdose.

> What was in it in 1970? That's the last time I took any. I
>know it was 20% ABV at the time.

That's curious.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416

You're using a long-unsupported operating system, just staying the
same, I'm always evolving.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
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[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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On 1/2/2025 5:06 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bc7bnjpmsoc4hvfuk8m9ci782inn4526i5@4ax.com...
>> Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The unemployed faggot has spoken.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/zbsxh1Fx
>>>>
>>>> You're a piece of shit.
>>>>
>>> You're a mentally ill leech.
>>
>>
>> Wanna fight about it, punk-bitch red-pill idiot?
>
> Is that were [sic]

A scooterism! He means "where," but this is one of several where he nearly
always gets the wrong fucking word. He does the opposite, too — he frequently
writes "where" when he means "were."

scooterisms:

"insure" [he means "ensure"; they are *not* synonyms]
"Actually..." [empty padding]
"Further..." [empty padding]
"Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
"And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
before fleeing]
"On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
"And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
"Heck..." [empty padding]
"Well..." [empty padding]
"After all..." [empty padding]
"In fact..." [empty padding]
"Indeed..." [empty padding; this is one of "pothole's" favorites, too]
"I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
acknowledgment]
"So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
*never* said, i.e. a straw man]
"TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
"Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
— a straw man]
"Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
Constitution anyway]
"it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
"its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
"and" [he means "an"]
"an" [he means "and"]
"where" [he means "were"]
"were" [he means "where"]
"creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]

> I shit myself and assume the fetal defense posture?
>
Almost certainly, scooter.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On 1/2/2025 5:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8069nj94nj590mptmk847819r1dv3dlohl@4ax.com...
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> As far as Biden and the economy is concerned, look at the link I posted.
>>>>> There are many more like it.
>>>>
>>>> It's interesting to look at what people said in an exit poll, yeah,
>>>> but it doesn't mean they're *correct*.  If they beLIEve Donald is
>>>> gonna magically make everything the way they like, they might buy the
>>>> Brooklyn Bridge.
>>>
>>> Well that's actually an interesting point.
>>> If the topic were say foreign policy I would agree with you
>>> that people might be misinformed by the media or their own
>>> bias.
>>>
>>> However regarding the economy, it's cut and dried.
>>> People at the market easily see the price of goods.
>>> People with adjustable mortgages see the difference.
>>> People looking to obtain a mortgage or finance a car see the difference.
>>> etc.
>>> It's a concrete metric that people can use to gauge how well they are doing and
>>> the people are not happy at all.
>>> They don't want to hear some numbers game they want things to go back to the way
>>> they were under Trump.
>>>
>>> It's that simple.
>>>
>>> Now, can Trump fix it?
>>> I dunno.
>>> Time will tell.
>>
>>
>> Did you remember, though, that when Biden took over we were in the
>> middle of a global and deadly pandemic?
>
> Well given how much Trump and the Republiscums/QAnon fought against taking steps to
> prevent/control that

Exactly, scooter.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On 1/2/2025 5:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7l19njtmmgbnefb77cvt0ere4q54fl3ahe@4ax.com...
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> What is so bad, today?  I just don't see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you don't Joel.
>>>>> Much like snit you are living on the dole off the government and the
>>>>> taxpayer's money.
>>>>
>>>> My own situation is irrelevant.  There is nothing wrong with the
>>>> economy.  There's no crisis.
>>>>
>>> Sure.
>>> Keep believing MSNBC and CNN.
>>>
>>> <https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-the-reasons-for-
>>> voting-for-trump-and-harris/>
>>
>>
>> I  don't have cable TV.  I hate cable news.  I don't even like the
>> broadcast networks' news, PBS/BBC are all I can take.  I'm judging
>> this by the indicators in the economy, Biden's administration has done
>> fine.
>
> 23% inflation in 4 years..

*Only* due to Federal Reserve "easy money" to combat Trump's crashing of the
economy in April 2020, scooter.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Governor Swill
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On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:52:27 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>[DXM] has use as a cough suppressant, that doesn't detract from its
>>>>>psychedelic properties.
>>>>
>>>>I had a buddy who preferred a bottle of Nyquil to a cold beer at the end of a
>>>>tough day. Firsthand: shit WERKS.
>>>
>>>You do realize NyQuil has APAP in it?
>>
>>Whatever that is.
>
>
>It's a particular chemical name for Tylenol, i.e. what kills your
>liver in an overdose.
>
>
>> What was in it in 1970?

It might not have had acetaminophen in it back then.

>>That's the last time I took any. I
>>know it was 20% ABV at the time.
>
>
>That's curious.

NP: Shalamar - Right In The Socket
--
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/2/2025 5:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7l19njtmmgbnefb77cvt0ere4q54fl3ahe@4ax.com...
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> What is so bad, today? I just don't see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course you don't Joel.
>>>>>> Much like snit you are living on the dole off the government and the
>>>>>> taxpayer's money.
>>>>>
>>>>> My own situation is irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with the
>>>>> economy. There's no crisis.
>>>>>
>>>> Sure.
>>>> Keep believing MSNBC and CNN.
>>>>
>>>> <https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-the-reasons-for-
>>>> voting-for-trump-and-harris/>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have cable TV. I hate cable news. I don't even like the
>>> broadcast networks' news, PBS/BBC are all I can take. I'm judging
>>> this by the indicators in the economy, Biden's administration has done
>>> fine.
>>
>> 23% inflation in 4 years..
>
> *Only* due to Federal Reserve "easy money" to combat Trump's crashing of
> the economy in April 2020, scooter.

Strange I seem to recall that Biden was inaugurated as President in January
of 2020... as such anything the Fed did was under the direction of Joe
Biden.

2 months later Biden ordered the release of those funds.. that makes him
responsible for the results of that.

Particularly given he did it all by himself. It was his policy and thus
purely his baby.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/2/2025 5:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8069nj94nj590mptmk847819r1dv3dlohl@4ax.com...
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> As far as Biden and the economy is concerned, look at the link I
>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>> There are many more like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting to look at what people said in an exit poll, yeah,
>>>>> but it doesn't mean they're *correct*. If they beLIEve Donald is
>>>>> gonna magically make everything the way they like, they might buy the
>>>>> Brooklyn Bridge.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's actually an interesting point.
>>>> If the topic were say foreign policy I would agree with you
>>>> that people might be misinformed by the media or their own
>>>> bias.
>>>>
>>>> However regarding the economy, it's cut and dried.
>>>> People at the market easily see the price of goods.
>>>> People with adjustable mortgages see the difference.
>>>> People looking to obtain a mortgage or finance a car see the
>>>> difference.
>>>> etc.
>>>> It's a concrete metric that people can use to gauge how well they are
>>>> doing and
>>>> the people are not happy at all.
>>>> They don't want to hear some numbers game they want things to go back
>>>> to the way
>>>> they were under Trump.
>>>>
>>>> It's that simple.
>>>>
>>>> Now, can Trump fix it?
>>>> I dunno.
>>>> Time will tell.
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you remember, though, that when Biden took over we were in the
>>> middle of a global and deadly pandemic?
>>
>> Well given how much Trump and the Republiscums/QAnon fought against
>> taking steps to prevent/control that
>
> Exactly, scooter.

Now Rudy has to resort to changing what I said because he can't contest it..
all he can do is lie about it.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416
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>
> You're using a long-unsupported operating system, just staying the
> same, I'm always evolving.

So? It performs the functions I need in the manner I need from it. Why
should I switch to a bug ridden 'new' reader that offers me nothing more
than what I already have and need?

Oh, that's right.. you prefer bug ridden and changing software. Meanwhile my
'long-unsupported OS rocks on newer hardware unless your OS you can't even
understand. I mean unless it's idiot proof, you can't even load it.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/2/2025 5:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:aiv8njpu8f0c6nqoadqa205imif4jfsiri@4ax.com...
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> the 50's and 60's where the country was at
>>>>>> it's peak at least as far as quality of life is concerned
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure, we'll wish for that to come back, are you insane? You don't
>>>>> like having the technology we have, now?
>>>>>
>>>> Of course not.
>>>> I'm talking about having an average job, a decent wage, being able to
>>>> afford a house in the burbs,
>>>> pay for your kids to go to college, decent education, no wokie crap,
>>>> boys were boys
>>>> and girls were girls, being able to put food on the table and so forth.
>>>>
>>>> Try that these days.
>>>> Sure there were problems, racial tensions, Vietnam etc but OVERALL
>>>> things were much better
>>>> back then.
>>>>
>>>> At least until 1974 when Carter became POTUS at which point things
>>>> turned to shit.
>>>> Just like under Joe Biden.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is so bad, today? I just don't see it.
>>
>> Well mental illness is rampant
>
> You should know, scooter.

With you and Joel being prime examples of such mental illness.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On 1/3/2025 5:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:PuDdP.59119$WVI1.58244@fx43.iad...
>> On 1/2/2025 5:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7l19njtmmgbnefb77cvt0ere4q54fl3ahe@4ax.com...
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is so bad, today?  I just don't see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course you don't Joel.
>>>>>>> Much like snit you are living on the dole off the government and the
>>>>>>> taxpayer's money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My own situation is irrelevant.  There is nothing wrong with the
>>>>>> economy.  There's no crisis.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.
>>>>> Keep believing MSNBC and CNN.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-the-reasons-for-
>>>>> voting-for-trump-and-harris/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I  don't have cable TV.  I hate cable news.  I don't even like the
>>>> broadcast networks' news, PBS/BBC are all I can take.  I'm judging
>>>> this by the indicators in the economy, Biden's administration has done
>>>> fine.
>>>
>>> 23% inflation in 4 years..
>>
>> *Only* due to Federal Reserve "easy money" to combat Trump's crashing of the
>> economy in April 2020, scooter.
>
>
> Strange I seem to recall that Biden was inaugurated as President in January of
> 2020

So much for your powers of recall, scooter. It was 2021, not 2020.

> as such anything the Fed did was under the direction of Joe Biden.
The president does not "direct" the Fed, scooter, you stump-stupid drunken
Virginia camper.

In any case, scooter, that massive federal stimulus began under Trump. He
crashed the economy, and he started the unconscionable federal spending.

> 2 months later Biden ordered the release of those funds.. that makes him responsible for the results of that.

No, scooter. There was no "release" of any funds — no "funds" were frozen or
held up, scooter.

You don't know one fucking thing about the economy, scooter — literally zero.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
From: Klaus Schadenfreude
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On 1/3/2025 5:15 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HuDdP.59118$WVI1.21700@fx43.iad...
>> On 1/2/2025 5:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8069nj94nj590mptmk847819r1dv3dlohl@4ax.com...
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as Biden and the economy is concerned, look at the link I posted.
>>>>>>> There are many more like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting to look at what people said in an exit poll, yeah,
>>>>>> but it doesn't mean they're *correct*.  If they beLIEve Donald is
>>>>>> gonna magically make everything the way they like, they might buy the
>>>>>> Brooklyn Bridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that's actually an interesting point.
>>>>> If the topic were say foreign policy I would agree with you
>>>>> that people might be misinformed by the media or their own
>>>>> bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> However regarding the economy, it's cut and dried.
>>>>> People at the market easily see the price of goods.
>>>>> People with adjustable mortgages see the difference.
>>>>> People looking to obtain a mortgage or finance a car see the difference.
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> It's a concrete metric that people can use to gauge how well they are doing
>>>>> and
>>>>> the people are not happy at all.
>>>>> They don't want to hear some numbers game they want things to go back to
>>>>> the way
>>>>> they were under Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's that simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, can Trump fix it?
>>>>> I dunno.
>>>>> Time will tell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you remember, though, that when Biden took over we were in the
>>>> middle of a global and deadly pandemic?
>>>
>>> Well given how much Trump and the Republiscums/QAnon fought against taking
>>> steps to prevent/control that
>>
>> Exactly, scooter.
>
> Now Rudy has to resort to changing what I said

You do it all the fucking time, scooter. Payback is a bitch, isn't it, scooter?

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On 1/3/2025 5:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XuDdP.59120$WVI1.8153@fx43.iad...
>> On 1/2/2025 5:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aiv8njpu8f0c6nqoadqa205imif4jfsiri@4ax.com...
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> the 50's and 60's where the country was at
>>>>>>> it's peak at least as far as quality of life is concerned
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure, we'll wish for that to come back, are you insane?  You don't
>>>>>> like having the technology we have, now?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>> I'm talking about having an average job, a decent wage, being able to
>>>>> afford a house in the burbs,
>>>>> pay for your kids to go to college,  decent education, no wokie crap, boys
>>>>> were boys
>>>>> and girls were girls, being able to put food on the table and so forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try that these days.
>>>>> Sure there were problems, racial tensions, Vietnam etc but OVERALL things
>>>>> were much better
>>>>> back then.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least until 1974 when Carter became POTUS at which point things turned
>>>>> to shit.
>>>>> Just like under Joe Biden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is so bad, today?  I just don't see it.
>>>
>>> Well mental illness is rampant
>>
>> You should know, scooter.
>
> With you and Joel being prime examples of

robust mental health, and you being the poster boy for psychosis. That's right,
scooter.

The fact is, scooter, your claim that "mental illness is rampant" was just you
taking a massive shit in public. You have zero expertise in mental health,
scooter. I'm quite sure you have zero expertise in anything meaningful, scooter.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> What was in it [NyQuil] in 1970?
>
>It might not have had acetaminophen in it back then.
>
>>>That's the last time I took any. I
>>>know it was 20% ABV at the time.
>>
>>That's curious.

if it was 20% alcohol, it shouldn't have had APAP in it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: A New Machine Progresses
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 15:24:08 -0500, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> What was in it [NyQuil] in 1970?
>>
>>It might not have had acetaminophen in it back then.
>>
>>>>That's the last time I took any. I
>>>>know it was 20% ABV at the time.
>>>
>>>That's curious.
>
>
>if it was 20% alcohol, it shouldn't have had APAP in it.

It was 1970. No idea how to look up the contemporary ingredient list.

--
Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide."

Well, they did. Get over it.

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