Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health.


soc / soc.culture.russian / RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses

SubjectAuthor
* Russian persecution of Jehovah's WitnessesDavid Dalton
`* RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's WitnessesRaskolnykov
 `* RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's WitnessesRaskolnykov
  +- RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's WitnessesRaskolnykov
  `- RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's WitnessesRaskolnykov

1
Subject: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
From: David Dalton
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, soc.culture.russian, alt.activism, soc.rights.human, alt.religion, alt.bible
Organization: Eternal September
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:57 UTC
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, soc.culture.russian, alt.activism, soc.rights.human, alt.religion, alt.bible
Subject: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:27:03 -0330
Organization: Eternal September
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <0001HW.2CEF032F020D1D5C70000794A38F@news.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 06:57:05 +0100 (CET)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d0a680bbd8b0df69eeef66ca03d21383";
logging-data="557000"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wnDJ6VgHZ8voygVFHq0uZQvo/+rhy4oQ="
User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
Cancel-Lock: sha1:2FpjexpWiwVJviCw6bGkXMbNvYc=
View all headers

Tonight on PRI The World there was the following segment:

Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia have been targeted by anti-extremism law

Since 2017, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been designated an extremist
organization in Russia — it’s unclear why, but the religious group does
not believe in war, which observers think may be at least part of the reason.
Reporter Levi Bridges explains how a law meant to fight terrorism has been
used to jail people for their religious affiliation.

You can listen to it by clicking on the play button on
https://tinyurl.com/42tmmxza .

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

Subject: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
From: Raskolnykov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:29 UTC
References: 1
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news-out.netnews.com!s1-3.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!peer01.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!fx05.ams1.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
References: <0001HW.2CEF032F020D1D5C70000794A38F@news.eternal-september.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: 5oka5900d@mozmail.com (Raskolnykov)
Subject: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
Lines: 182
Message-ID: <CY40P.4168$XDSf.3031@fx05.ams1>
X-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:29:38 UTC
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:29:38 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 7675
View all headers

Hi David,

I will try to explain this with a quote of what was written today:

While we have no power over the people "outside" in the world, we are already accused
as if we are going to kill everybody.

This is called "inversion of thesis", because it is exactly Satan who murders people as our
yesterday buried or cremated friend, while we only proclaim the world of God, prophets,
and the apostles, so when it is written:

Proverbs 27:20 KJV
Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Proverbs 27:20 NASB

Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, Nor are the eyes of a person ever satisfied.

they understand well that they are waging an unjust war for greed, hegemony, territorial expansion,
military power and industry, and extermination of designated population.

"the eyes of a man are never satistied" very well describes human nature in
all of the slave-driving system, feudalism, capitalism, communism and corporatism.
We always want more, in a finite world.

This will lead to a conflict of interest, and however much rulers and religious leaders
claimed that they fight for country, king (or ruler/president) and for God, the motive
was by far more pragmatic: wealth, status, territorial gain, more women, plunder,
hatred and murder or pillage.

No such war is just, even if fought with the "blessed" guns, riffles, cannons and - now -
the blessed nukes.

Normally, a man would consider the warning of 192 years required for Strontium-90 fallout
to drop on 1% of that in the nuclear worldwide comflict.

The formula is easily verified:

Having in mind that half-period (period in which radioactivity is reduced by half)
of decay of Strontium-90 in τ = 28.9 years:

t/τ
1
(―) = 1%
2

t/τ
1
log ((―) ) = log(1%)
2

1
t/τ log ― = log (0.01)
2
1
t log ― = τ * log(0.01)
2
log(0.01)
t = τ * ――――――――――――――
1
log(―)
2
-2
t = 28.9 yrs * ―――――― = 28.9 yrs × 6.664 = 192.00 yrs
-0.301

As nobody can survive in a shelter for 192 years until the radioactive
Strontium-90 is gone, in the meantime there could be a surge of Cyclops
babies and other variant birth defects, whose support would bring down
any economy.

This is possible to lead to the Ministry of Parenthood and Fertility as
one of the possible outcomes. Each sexual intercourse would have to be
authorised, and only the males and females who have not suffered DNA damage
would be government-certified to reproduce and have offspring.

Furhter increase of length and severity of radioactive contamination would
lead to the need to completely forbid procreative sex, and only use scientifically
proven sperm and ovary cells, which are lab-certified against the genetic
defects. Such reproductive cells would be harvested from the exceptional
individuals in sport, art, science or having otherwise desired features,
required for the next generation of humans.

The birth defects would probably be prenataly diagnosed and terminated.

There would be good breeders race of men, and good caretakers race of men
and women, who would be ideal parents, not necessary or likely of their
own biological offspring, bot of those with scientifically desired genetical
features or DNA improvements, possibly AI calculated.

This is just one of the scenarios of the future in which mankind would suffer
such a great genetic damage as in 190 years of time required for Strontium-90
contamination to drop on 1% by natural half-decay.

This is probably why - even without a calculator and knowledge in chemistry and
physics, every Jehovah Witness is undoubtedly against any war.

in Christ Jesus
Amen

Mirsad

On Thu Nov 21 02:27:03 2024 David Dalton wrote:
> Tonight on PRI The World there was the following segment:
>
> Jehovah?s Witnesses in Russia have been targeted by anti-extremism law
>
> Since 2017, Jehovah?s Witnesses have been designated an extremist
> organization in Russia ? it?s unclear why, but the religious group does
> not believe in war, which observers think may be at least part of the reason.
> Reporter Levi Bridges explains how a law meant to fight terrorism has been
> used to jail people for their religious affiliation.
>
> You can listen to it by clicking on the play button on
> https://tinyurl.com/42tmmxza .
>
> --
> David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> ?And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
> hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand? (Ferron)
>

Subject: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
From: Raskolnykov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:12 UTC
References: 1 2
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.szaf.org!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!peer03.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!fx09.ams1.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
References: <0001HW.2CEF032F020D1D5C70000794A38F@news.eternal-september.org> <CY40P.4168$XDSf.3031@fx05.ams1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: 5oka5900d@mozmail.com (Raskolnykov)
Subject: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
Lines: 298
Message-ID: <ht60P.4211$BeGa.2826@fx09.ams1>
X-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:12:45 UTC
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:12:45 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 13253
View all headers

P.S.

After some thought, with still greater contamination by Strontium-90, 1000 times
that of allowing DNA-based reproduction, it would take about 290 years for the
Strontium fallout to go down to 0.001%.

What would this do to human and animal DNA would cause the same damage as seen in
dinosaur DNA preserved in amber deposits, when a reptile was beaten by mosquito who
got caught in amber sediments (this is seen in Jurassic Park at the basic level).

Human DNA might be so destroyed, that the gaps in the DNA sequence would have to be
filled with the DNA and genes of our closest animal relatives. As we share up to
99% of DNA with the other species, this is possible, but it could trigger some recessive
genes in third or fourth generation, such as we see in the "Cyclops babies" that are
now born in Afghanistan and Fallujah (Iraq), as a result of depleted uranium, white
phosphorus, or yet undisclosed and more potent teratogenic agent.

(Notably, depleted uranium in Balkans and white phosphorus elsewhere did not cause
such birth defects.)

The insertion of animal or amphibian genes into the dinosaur DNA had the consequence
that the "velociraptors" could change sex and start to reproduce, just like some
amphibians. This property could affect human DNA and humans born from such technological
conception.

It is not clear whether the "smart" GMO insertion of human DNA could result in triggering
recessive and mutated genes. With plant and animal GMO, such mutations are exterminated
by a procedure applying various agents, but selecting one in hundred or thousand
human embryos would have serious ethical considerations, and could not be done in
the presence of the Church of Christ or any religion, for decimating 99% to 99.9%
of embrios, human or even animal, would not be acceptable to any religion of
the Abrahamic religions (Torah or Ultraorthodox Judaism, Christianity, Islam), Vedic
religions, Buddhism or Taoism.

(Those of Ephraim who supported eugenics and delivered mentally ill and schizophrenics
to Third Reich psychiatrists, sterilisation (surgical or X-Ray), and euthanasia,
will likely support the new ways of eugenics, enhanced by new genetically modified
genome technologies guided by AI, or possibly even the military AI.)

The hardest DNA repair still would have to be guided by AI-guided DNA reconstruction.

In the Phase 1, AI would try to repair the missing DNA sequences and genes out of the
best sources, but "hallucinating" the missing sequences, leading to yet unexisting
DNA chains in the Nature, with unforeseen or unpredicatable consequences in the
reproduction that would no longer be sexual and combining two strands of DNA which
suppressed the mutated or gamaged genes as the "recessive" one.

In the Phase 2, AI (probably military or corporate) would attempt to generate completely
new DNA-based organism, such as a perfect war man-machine, a "perfect organism without
conscience, morals other than the obeying superiors, disobedience in the chain of command,
questioning authorities or remorse".

This Phase also is impossible to execute in the presence of the Church, Faith or Religion,
as we know them, for AI-generated DNA would not completely predict 4**(3 billion) ACTG
pairs and their sequence in a non-exponential time.

The "weak" combinations would have been destroyed without mercy, for no economy could
support 99% to 99.9999% of mutants that cannot take care of themselves, work, learn,
or spend.

in the LORD God Creator of the Universe, Maker of Heaven and Earth, Maker of Adam and Eve,
Almighty (El-Shaddai), Merciful, Longsuffering,
All-Seeing (El-Roi), All-Hearing (Yishma-El), All-Knowing (Omniscient, El-Deowt),
in the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and
in the Holy Ghost holy name
Amen

On Fri Nov 22 19:29:38 2024 Raskolnykov wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I will try to explain this with a quote of what was written today:
>
> While we have no power over the people "outside" in the world, we are already accused
> as if we are going to kill everybody.
>
>
> This is called "inversion of thesis", because it is exactly Satan who murders people as our
> yesterday buried or cremated friend, while we only proclaim the world of God, prophets,
> and the apostles, so when it is written:
>
> Proverbs 27:20 KJV
> Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
>
> Proverbs 27:20 NASB
>
> Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, Nor are the eyes of a person ever satisfied.
>
> they understand well that they are waging an unjust war for greed, hegemony, territorial expansion,
> military power and industry, and extermination of designated population.
>
> "the eyes of a man are never satistied" very well describes human nature in
> all of the slave-driving system, feudalism, capitalism, communism and corporatism.
> We always want more, in a finite world.
>
> This will lead to a conflict of interest, and however much rulers and religious leaders
> claimed that they fight for country, king (or ruler/president) and for God, the motive
> was by far more pragmatic: wealth, status, territorial gain, more women, plunder,
> hatred and murder or pillage.
>
> No such war is just, even if fought with the "blessed" guns, riffles, cannons and - now -
> the blessed nukes.
>
> Normally, a man would consider the warning of 192 years required for Strontium-90 fallout
> to drop on 1% of that in the nuclear worldwide comflict.
>
> The formula is easily verified:
>
> Having in mind that half-period (period in which radioactivity is reduced by half)
> of decay of Strontium-90 in τ = 28.9 years:
>
> t/τ
> 1
> (―) = 1%
> 2
>
> t/τ
> 1
> log ((―) ) = log(1%)
> 2
>
>
> 1
> t/τ log ― = log (0.01)
> 2
> 1
> t log ― = τ * log(0.01)
> 2
> log(0.01)
> t = τ * ――――――――――――――
> 1
> log(―)
> 2
> -2
> t = 28.9 yrs * ―――――― = 28.9 yrs × 6.664 = 192.00 yrs
> -0.301
>
> As nobody can survive in a shelter for 192 years until the radioactive
> Strontium-90 is gone, in the meantime there could be a surge of Cyclops
> babies and other variant birth defects, whose support would bring down
> any economy.
>
> This is possible to lead to the Ministry of Parenthood and Fertility as
> one of the possible outcomes. Each sexual intercourse would have to be
> authorised, and only the males and females who have not suffered DNA damage
> would be government-certified to reproduce and have offspring.
>
> Furhter increase of length and severity of radioactive contamination would
> lead to the need to completely forbid procreative sex, and only use scientifically
> proven sperm and ovary cells, which are lab-certified against the genetic
> defects. Such reproductive cells would be harvested from the exceptional
> individuals in sport, art, science or having otherwise desired features,
> required for the next generation of humans.
>
> The birth defects would probably be prenataly diagnosed and terminated.
>
> There would be good breeders race of men, and good caretakers race of men
> and women, who would be ideal parents, not necessary or likely of their
> own biological offspring, bot of those with scientifically desired genetical
> features or DNA improvements, possibly AI calculated.
>
> This is just one of the scenarios of the future in which mankind would suffer
> such a great genetic damage as in 190 years of time required for Strontium-90
> contamination to drop on 1% by natural half-decay.
>
> This is probably why - even without a calculator and knowledge in chemistry and
> physics, every Jehovah Witness is undoubtedly against any war.
>
> in Christ Jesus
> Amen
>
> Mirsad
>
>
> On Thu Nov 21 02:27:03 2024 David Dalton wrote:
> > Tonight on PRI The World there was the following segment:
> >
> > Jehovah?s Witnesses in Russia have been targeted by anti-extremism law
> >
> > Since 2017, Jehovah?s Witnesses have been designated an extremist
> > organization in Russia ? it?s unclear why, but the religious group does
> > not believe in war, which observers think may be at least part of the reason.
> > Reporter Levi Bridges explains how a law meant to fight terrorism has been
> > used to jail people for their religious affiliation.
> >
> > You can listen to it by clicking on the play button on
> > https://tinyurl.com/42tmmxza .
> >
> > --
> > David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > ?And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
> > hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand? (Ferron)
> >
>
>


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
From: Raskolnykov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:22 UTC
References: 1 2 3
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!maths.tcd.ie!usenet.csail.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder2.feed.ams11.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!peer03.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!fx07.ams1.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
References: <0001HW.2CEF032F020D1D5C70000794A38F@news.eternal-september.org> <CY40P.4168$XDSf.3031@fx05.ams1> <ht60P.4211$BeGa.2826@fx09.ams1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: 5oka5900d@mozmail.com (Raskolnykov)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
Lines: 320
Message-ID: <iC60P.975$0iZf.650@fx07.ams1>
X-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:22:22 UTC
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 21:22:22 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 14695
View all headers

ERRATA (FIXED):

In the Phase 1, AI would try to repair the missing DNA sequences and genes out of the
best sources, but "hallucinating" the missing sequences, leading to yet unexisting
DNA chains in the Nature, with unforeseen or unpredicatable consequences in the
reproduction that would no longer be sexual and combining two strands of DNA which
suppressed the mutated or DAMAGED genes as the "recessive" one.

Amen.

On Fri Nov 22 21:12:45 2024 Raskolnykov wrote:
> P.S.
>
> After some thought, with still greater contamination by Strontium-90, 1000 times
> that of allowing DNA-based reproduction, it would take about 290 years for the
> Strontium fallout to go down to 0.001%.
>
> What would this do to human and animal DNA would cause the same damage as seen in
> dinosaur DNA preserved in amber deposits, when a reptile was beaten by mosquito who
> got caught in amber sediments (this is seen in Jurassic Park at the basic level).
>
> Human DNA might be so destroyed, that the gaps in the DNA sequence would have to be
> filled with the DNA and genes of our closest animal relatives. As we share up to
> 99% of DNA with the other species, this is possible, but it could trigger some recessive
> genes in third or fourth generation, such as we see in the "Cyclops babies" that are
> now born in Afghanistan and Fallujah (Iraq), as a result of depleted uranium, white
> phosphorus, or yet undisclosed and more potent teratogenic agent.
>
> (Notably, depleted uranium in Balkans and white phosphorus elsewhere did not cause
> such birth defects.)
>
> The insertion of animal or amphibian genes into the dinosaur DNA had the consequence
> that the "velociraptors" could change sex and start to reproduce, just like some
> amphibians. This property could affect human DNA and humans born from such technological
> conception.
>
> It is not clear whether the "smart" GMO insertion of human DNA could result in triggering
> recessive and mutated genes. With plant and animal GMO, such mutations are exterminated
> by a procedure applying various agents, but selecting one in hundred or thousand
> human embryos would have serious ethical considerations, and could not be done in
> the presence of the Church of Christ or any religion, for decimating 99% to 99.9%
> of embrios, human or even animal, would not be acceptable to any religion of
> the Abrahamic religions (Torah or Ultraorthodox Judaism, Christianity, Islam), Vedic
> religions, Buddhism or Taoism.
>
> (Those of Ephraim who supported eugenics and delivered mentally ill and schizophrenics
> to Third Reich psychiatrists, sterilisation (surgical or X-Ray), and euthanasia,
> will likely support the new ways of eugenics, enhanced by new genetically modified
> genome technologies guided by AI, or possibly even the military AI.)
>
> The hardest DNA repair still would have to be guided by AI-guided DNA reconstruction.
>
> In the Phase 1, AI would try to repair the missing DNA sequences and genes out of the
> best sources, but "hallucinating" the missing sequences, leading to yet unexisting
> DNA chains in the Nature, with unforeseen or unpredicatable consequences in the
> reproduction that would no longer be sexual and combining two strands of DNA which
> suppressed the mutated or gamaged genes as the "recessive" one.
>
> In the Phase 2, AI (probably military or corporate) would attempt to generate completely
> new DNA-based organism, such as a perfect war man-machine, a "perfect organism without
> conscience, morals other than the obeying superiors, disobedience in the chain of command,
> questioning authorities or remorse".
>
> This Phase also is impossible to execute in the presence of the Church, Faith or Religion,
> as we know them, for AI-generated DNA would not completely predict 4**(3 billion) ACTG
> pairs and their sequence in a non-exponential time.
>
> The "weak" combinations would have been destroyed without mercy, for no economy could
> support 99% to 99.9999% of mutants that cannot take care of themselves, work, learn,
> or spend.
>
> in the LORD God Creator of the Universe, Maker of Heaven and Earth, Maker of Adam and Eve,
> Almighty (El-Shaddai), Merciful, Longsuffering,
> All-Seeing (El-Roi), All-Hearing (Yishma-El), All-Knowing (Omniscient, El-Deowt),
> in the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and
> in the Holy Ghost holy name
> Amen
>
>
> On Fri Nov 22 19:29:38 2024 Raskolnykov wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I will try to explain this with a quote of what was written today:
> >
> > While we have no power over the people "outside" in the world, we are already accused
> > as if we are going to kill everybody.
> >
> >
> > This is called "inversion of thesis", because it is exactly Satan who murders people as our
> > yesterday buried or cremated friend, while we only proclaim the world of God, prophets,
> > and the apostles, so when it is written:
> >
> > Proverbs 27:20 KJV
> > Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
> >
> > Proverbs 27:20 NASB
> >
> > Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, Nor are the eyes of a person ever satisfied.
> >
> > they understand well that they are waging an unjust war for greed, hegemony, territorial expansion,
> > military power and industry, and extermination of designated population.
> >
> > "the eyes of a man are never satistied" very well describes human nature in
> > all of the slave-driving system, feudalism, capitalism, communism and corporatism.
> > We always want more, in a finite world.
> >
> > This will lead to a conflict of interest, and however much rulers and religious leaders
> > claimed that they fight for country, king (or ruler/president) and for God, the motive
> > was by far more pragmatic: wealth, status, territorial gain, more women, plunder,
> > hatred and murder or pillage.
> >
> > No such war is just, even if fought with the "blessed" guns, riffles, cannons and - now -
> > the blessed nukes.
> >
> > Normally, a man would consider the warning of 192 years required for Strontium-90 fallout
> > to drop on 1% of that in the nuclear worldwide comflict.
> >
> > The formula is easily verified:
> >
> > Having in mind that half-period (period in which radioactivity is reduced by half)
> > of decay of Strontium-90 in τ = 28.9 years:
> >
> > t/τ
> > 1
> > (―) = 1%
> > 2
> >
> > t/τ
> > 1
> > log ((―) ) = log(1%)
> > 2
> >
> >
> > 1
> > t/τ log ― = log (0.01)
> > 2
> > 1
> > t log ― = τ * log(0.01)
> > 2
> > log(0.01)
> > t = τ * ――――――――――――――
> > 1
> > log(―)
> > 2
> > -2
> > t = 28.9 yrs * ―――――― = 28.9 yrs × 6.664 = 192.00 yrs
> > -0.301
> >
> > As nobody can survive in a shelter for 192 years until the radioactive
> > Strontium-90 is gone, in the meantime there could be a surge of Cyclops
> > babies and other variant birth defects, whose support would bring down
> > any economy.
> >
> > This is possible to lead to the Ministry of Parenthood and Fertility as
> > one of the possible outcomes. Each sexual intercourse would have to be
> > authorised, and only the males and females who have not suffered DNA damage
> > would be government-certified to reproduce and have offspring.
> >
> > Furhter increase of length and severity of radioactive contamination would
> > lead to the need to completely forbid procreative sex, and only use scientifically
> > proven sperm and ovary cells, which are lab-certified against the genetic
> > defects. Such reproductive cells would be harvested from the exceptional
> > individuals in sport, art, science or having otherwise desired features,
> > required for the next generation of humans.
> >
> > The birth defects would probably be prenataly diagnosed and terminated.
> >
> > There would be good breeders race of men, and good caretakers race of men
> > and women, who would be ideal parents, not necessary or likely of their
> > own biological offspring, bot of those with scientifically desired genetical
> > features or DNA improvements, possibly AI calculated.
> >
> > This is just one of the scenarios of the future in which mankind would suffer
> > such a great genetic damage as in 190 years of time required for Strontium-90
> > contamination to drop on 1% by natural half-decay.
> >
> > This is probably why - even without a calculator and knowledge in chemistry and
> > physics, every Jehovah Witness is undoubtedly against any war.
> >
> > in Christ Jesus
> > Amen
> >
> > Mirsad
> >
> >
> > On Thu Nov 21 02:27:03 2024 David Dalton wrote:
> > > Tonight on PRI The World there was the following segment:
> > >
> > > Jehovah?s Witnesses in Russia have been targeted by anti-extremism law
> > >
> > > Since 2017, Jehovah?s Witnesses have been designated an extremist
> > > organization in Russia ? it?s unclear why, but the religious group does
> > > not believe in war, which observers think may be at least part of the reason.
> > > Reporter Levi Bridges explains how a law meant to fight terrorism has been
> > > used to jail people for their religious affiliation.
> > >
> > > You can listen to it by clicking on the play button on
> > > https://tinyurl.com/42tmmxza .
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > ?And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
> > > hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand? (Ferron)
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
From: Raskolnykov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 22:09 UTC
References: 1 2 3
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!fx13.ams1.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
References: <0001HW.2CEF032F020D1D5C70000794A38F@news.eternal-september.org> <CY40P.4168$XDSf.3031@fx05.ams1> <ht60P.4211$BeGa.2826@fx09.ams1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From: 5oka5900d@mozmail.com (Raskolnykov)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Russian persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses
Lines: 451
Message-ID: <ci70P.2283$yr46.1959@fx13.ams1>
X-Complaints-To: abuse(at)newshosting.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 22:09:12 UTC
Organization: Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 22:09:12 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 20434
View all headers

Some good news.

As human DNA has 3.0 to 3.1 billion ACTG base sequence pairs, it would take any of
A, C, T, G for each in a sequence of 3.0 billion combinations to test before creating
the "perfect organism" (God?).

Now, 4^3,000,000,000 or 4 to the power of 3 billion is hard to calculate, but on
the logarithmic scale it is 10^1,806,179,973.

We are on the safe side, for the number of atoms in the observable Universe is
estimated to be 10^82 (one and 82 zeroes), or
10 × billion × billion × billion × billion × billion × billion × billion × billion × billion
(using Anglo-Saxon billion, which would in Slavonic be "milijarda").

In such a large search space, it is impossible that even the military AI creates
a functional life or even a single functioning and living cell that would divide
into two - which is the prerogative for life and multiplication.

Thereof, AI or any human claiming superpowers, would have to use building blocks
already pre-existing in Nature and created by God - as the religions believe.

This is why the Devil cannot repeat the Creation process of God Creator of the
Universe.

The very basic reason is that the number of second since the Universe begun times
the number of atoms in the observable Universe is 13800000000×365.25×86400 =
4.35 × 10^17 × 10^82 = 4.35 × 10^99.

This is roughly digit four followed by 99 zeroes, or 1,000,000,000 to the power of 11.

13800000000×365.25×86400 = 4.35 × 10^17 × 10^82 = 4.35 × 10^99

13800000000 × 365.25 × 86400 = 4.35 × 1017 × 1082 = 4.35 × 1099

However, this large number, 10100 called "Gogol", is not nearly enough to "guess"
the functional DNA of a living cell in a "clean room experiment", that is, without
using any existing DNA in living organisms already in the Nature.

If science would be able to "guess" a functional DNA of a living cell that would
reproduce, this would be a proof that life can become out of non-living matter.
But in (observable age of the Universe x the number of atoms in the observable Universe),
the number of combinations tested, one per atom and one per second, would be "only"
a Gogol, or 10100.

Still, John the Revelator warns about this danger:

Revelation 13
The Beast Out of the Earth
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two
horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the
power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which
dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven
on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the
earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight
of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make
an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And
he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of
the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship
the image of the beast should be killed.
With the possibility of making some "smart" conclusions and eliminating
obviously flawed chains, and quantum computing, the AI could in future become
able to "guess" a living DNA, repeat the Creation of the Creator God, and - note -
immediately wants his life to rule and dominate over all other forms of life,
or they will be exterminated as a "weak or degenerate species".

This couls happen gradually, by replacing neighbourhood by neighbourhood, over
a period of time, replacing God-created life with the Beast-created race,
who will readily embrace the mark of the Beast of their forehead (obedience)
or right arm (readily observe orders and do what they are told).

One of such examples was the inflitration of several alien races into the
Star Trek Federation, starting at the Headquarters, one of the worst being
the species 8472.

The species 8472 lived in the "Fluidic Space", recognised our Universe as the
source of weakening of its life force and degeneration of existence, and
decided to "exterminate the inferior races" for that sole purpose of exterminating
what is weak.

in the LORD God Creator of the Universe, Creator of Heaven and Earth,
the Lord of the Words, Maker of Adam and Eve,
Almighty (El-Shaddai), Merciful, Longsuffering,
All-Seeing (El-Roi), All-Hearing (Yishma-El), All-Knowing (El-Deowt),
in the Lord Christ Jesus of Nazareth and
in the Holy Ghost of God holy Name
Amen

Amen

On Fri Nov 22 21:12:45 2024 Raskolnykov wrote:
> P.S.
>
> After some thought, with still greater contamination by Strontium-90, 1000 times
> that of allowing DNA-based reproduction, it would take about 290 years for the
> Strontium fallout to go down to 0.001%.
>
> What would this do to human and animal DNA would cause the same damage as seen in
> dinosaur DNA preserved in amber deposits, when a reptile was beaten by mosquito who
> got caught in amber sediments (this is seen in Jurassic Park at the basic level).
>
> Human DNA might be so destroyed, that the gaps in the DNA sequence would have to be
> filled with the DNA and genes of our closest animal relatives. As we share up to
> 99% of DNA with the other species, this is possible, but it could trigger some recessive
> genes in third or fourth generation, such as we see in the "Cyclops babies" that are
> now born in Afghanistan and Fallujah (Iraq), as a result of depleted uranium, white
> phosphorus, or yet undisclosed and more potent teratogenic agent.
>
> (Notably, depleted uranium in Balkans and white phosphorus elsewhere did not cause
> such birth defects.)
>
> The insertion of animal or amphibian genes into the dinosaur DNA had the consequence
> that the "velociraptors" could change sex and start to reproduce, just like some
> amphibians. This property could affect human DNA and humans born from such technological
> conception.
>
> It is not clear whether the "smart" GMO insertion of human DNA could result in triggering
> recessive and mutated genes. With plant and animal GMO, such mutations are exterminated
> by a procedure applying various agents, but selecting one in hundred or thousand
> human embryos would have serious ethical considerations, and could not be done in
> the presence of the Church of Christ or any religion, for decimating 99% to 99.9%
> of embrios, human or even animal, would not be acceptable to any religion of
> the Abrahamic religions (Torah or Ultraorthodox Judaism, Christianity, Islam), Vedic
> religions, Buddhism or Taoism.
>
> (Those of Ephraim who supported eugenics and delivered mentally ill and schizophrenics
> to Third Reich psychiatrists, sterilisation (surgical or X-Ray), and euthanasia,
> will likely support the new ways of eugenics, enhanced by new genetically modified
> genome technologies guided by AI, or possibly even the military AI.)
>
> The hardest DNA repair still would have to be guided by AI-guided DNA reconstruction.
>
> In the Phase 1, AI would try to repair the missing DNA sequences and genes out of the
> best sources, but "hallucinating" the missing sequences, leading to yet unexisting
> DNA chains in the Nature, with unforeseen or unpredicatable consequences in the
> reproduction that would no longer be sexual and combining two strands of DNA which
> suppressed the mutated or gamaged genes as the "recessive" one.
>
> In the Phase 2, AI (probably military or corporate) would attempt to generate completely
> new DNA-based organism, such as a perfect war man-machine, a "perfect organism without
> conscience, morals other than the obeying superiors, disobedience in the chain of command,
> questioning authorities or remorse".
>
> This Phase also is impossible to execute in the presence of the Church, Faith or Religion,
> as we know them, for AI-generated DNA would not completely predict 4**(3 billion) ACTG
> pairs and their sequence in a non-exponential time.
>
> The "weak" combinations would have been destroyed without mercy, for no economy could
> support 99% to 99.9999% of mutants that cannot take care of themselves, work, learn,
> or spend.
>
> in the LORD God Creator of the Universe, Maker of Heaven and Earth, Maker of Adam and Eve,
> Almighty (El-Shaddai), Merciful, Longsuffering,
> All-Seeing (El-Roi), All-Hearing (Yishma-El), All-Knowing (Omniscient, El-Deowt),
> in the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and
> in the Holy Ghost holy name
> Amen
>
>
> On Fri Nov 22 19:29:38 2024 Raskolnykov wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I will try to explain this with a quote of what was written today:
> >
> > While we have no power over the people "outside" in the world, we are already accused
> > as if we are going to kill everybody.
> >
> >
> > This is called "inversion of thesis", because it is exactly Satan who murders people as our
> > yesterday buried or cremated friend, while we only proclaim the world of God, prophets,
> > and the apostles, so when it is written:
> >
> > Proverbs 27:20 KJV
> > Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.
> >
> > Proverbs 27:20 NASB
> >
> > Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, Nor are the eyes of a person ever satisfied.
> >
> > they understand well that they are waging an unjust war for greed, hegemony, territorial expansion,
> > military power and industry, and extermination of designated population.
> >
> > "the eyes of a man are never satistied" very well describes human nature in
> > all of the slave-driving system, feudalism, capitalism, communism and corporatism.
> > We always want more, in a finite world.
> >
> > This will lead to a conflict of interest, and however much rulers and religious leaders
> > claimed that they fight for country, king (or ruler/president) and for God, the motive
> > was by far more pragmatic: wealth, status, territorial gain, more women, plunder,
> > hatred and murder or pillage.
> >
> > No such war is just, even if fought with the "blessed" guns, riffles, cannons and - now -
> > the blessed nukes.
> >
> > Normally, a man would consider the warning of 192 years required for Strontium-90 fallout
> > to drop on 1% of that in the nuclear worldwide comflict.
> >
> > The formula is easily verified:
> >
> > Having in mind that half-period (period in which radioactivity is reduced by half)
> > of decay of Strontium-90 in τ = 28.9 years:
> >
> > t/τ
> > 1
> > (―) = 1%
> > 2
> >
> > t/τ
> > 1
> > log ((―) ) = log(1%)
> > 2
> >
> >
> > 1
> > t/τ log ― = log (0.01)
> > 2
> > 1
> > t log ― = τ * log(0.01)
> > 2
> > log(0.01)
> > t = τ * ――――――――――――――
> > 1
> > log(―)
> > 2
> > -2
> > t = 28.9 yrs * ―――――― = 28.9 yrs × 6.664 = 192.00 yrs
> > -0.301
> >
> > As nobody can survive in a shelter for 192 years until the radioactive
> > Strontium-90 is gone, in the meantime there could be a surge of Cyclops
> > babies and other variant birth defects, whose support would bring down
> > any economy.
> >
> > This is possible to lead to the Ministry of Parenthood and Fertility as
> > one of the possible outcomes. Each sexual intercourse would have to be
> > authorised, and only the males and females who have not suffered DNA damage
> > would be government-certified to reproduce and have offspring.
> >
> > Furhter increase of length and severity of radioactive contamination would
> > lead to the need to completely forbid procreative sex, and only use scientifically
> > proven sperm and ovary cells, which are lab-certified against the genetic
> > defects. Such reproductive cells would be harvested from the exceptional
> > individuals in sport, art, science or having otherwise desired features,
> > required for the next generation of humans.
> >
> > The birth defects would probably be prenataly diagnosed and terminated.
> >
> > There would be good breeders race of men, and good caretakers race of men
> > and women, who would be ideal parents, not necessary or likely of their
> > own biological offspring, bot of those with scientifically desired genetical
> > features or DNA improvements, possibly AI calculated.
> >
> > This is just one of the scenarios of the future in which mankind would suffer
> > such a great genetic damage as in 190 years of time required for Strontium-90
> > contamination to drop on 1% by natural half-decay.
> >
> > This is probably why - even without a calculator and knowledge in chemistry and
> > physics, every Jehovah Witness is undoubtedly against any war.
> >
> > in Christ Jesus
> > Amen
> >
> > Mirsad
> >
> >
> > On Thu Nov 21 02:27:03 2024 David Dalton wrote:
> > > Tonight on PRI The World there was the following segment:
> > >
> > > Jehovah?s Witnesses in Russia have been targeted by anti-extremism law
> > >
> > > Since 2017, Jehovah?s Witnesses have been designated an extremist
> > > organization in Russia ? it?s unclear why, but the religious group does
> > > not believe in war, which observers think may be at least part of the reason.
> > > Reporter Levi Bridges explains how a law meant to fight terrorism has been
> > > used to jail people for their religious affiliation.
> > >
> > > You can listen to it by clicking on the play button on
> > > https://tinyurl.com/42tmmxza .
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > ?And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
> > > hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand? (Ferron)
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Click here to read the complete article
1

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor