Attila < wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
> >> >> >> existence of any god.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
> >> >>
> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
> >>
> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
> >> >
> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
> >> >
> >>
> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
> >>
> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
> >> needed.
> >
> >I think you are not understanding...
>
> So you say. I require a bit more.
>
> >
> >God is everywhere, but
> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
> >
> >I didn't say "Look over there."
> >
> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
> >
> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
> >
> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
> >
> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
> >
> >
> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>
> I rest my case.

I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A
ham sandwich!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Thu, 30 May 2024 22:16:35 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Attila < wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>> >> >> >> existence of any god.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>> >>
>> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>> >> >
>> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>> >>
>> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>> >> needed.
>> >
>> >I think you are not understanding...
>>
>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>
>> >
>> >God is everywhere, but
>> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
>> >
>> >I didn't say "Look over there."
>> >
>> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
>> >
>> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>> >
>> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>> >
>> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>> >
>> >
>> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>
>> I rest my case.
>
>
>I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A
>ham sandwich!

What makes you think I am searching for any god?

The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient
evidence. Thus proving nuts are everywhere.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

Attila < wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 22:16:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
> >> >> >> >> existence of any god.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
> >> >>
> >> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
> >> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
> >> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
> >> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
> >> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
> >> >>
> >> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
> >> >> needed.
> >> >
> >> >I think you are not understanding...
> >>
> >> So you say. I require a bit more.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >God is everywhere, but
> >> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
> >> >
> >> >I didn't say "Look over there."
> >> >
> >> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
> >> >
> >> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
> >> >
> >> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
> >> >
> >> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
> >>
> >> I rest my case.
> >
> >
> >I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A
> >ham sandwich!
>
> What makes you think I am searching for any god?
>
> The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient
> evidence. Thus proving nuts are everywhere.

Chock full o'Nuts is that heavenly coffee!...

Since your quest to find proof of God led you to a...ham sandwich, I
have to go by what your eyes see.

Maybe you found God in a ham sandwich.

So, to continue, I need to use your ham sandwich as proof of God.

If you go to the store
to buy Ham, and you get home
and realize you forgot to
buy the bread...

and you take the Ham out
of the packaging
and eat it, it's not
a ham sandwich.

You need at least
two slices of bread
to make a ham sandwich.

If you have
two slices of bread
you can make the
ham sandwich,
a chicken sandwich
a grilled cheese sandwich
a BLT
a hamburger sandwich
even
a hotdog sandwich!

So, a sandwich
is a ...creation.

It's an arrangement...

you create a sandwich
that looks like a
sandwich...

I mean, you saw a
ham sandwich
which means it had to
have at least two
slices of bread on it
to be considered
a sandwich...
a ham sandwich.

It is simply
a creation, an
arrangement
of materials on
earth to create
what appears
to you to be
a ham sandwich.

You change the
arrangement and
it could easily be
a hotdog sandwich.

Now, look out your
window...do you see
that tree over there?

It's not a tree.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 22:16:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Attila < wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>> >> >> >> >> existence of any god.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>> >> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>> >> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>> >> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>> >> >> needed.
>> >> >
>> >> >I think you are not understanding...
>> >>
>> >> So you say. I require a bit more.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >God is everywhere, but
>> >> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
>> >> >
>> >> >I didn't say "Look over there."
>> >> >
>> >> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
>> >> >
>> >> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>> >> >
>> >> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>> >> >
>> >> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>> >>
>> >> I rest my case.
>> >
>> >
>> >I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A
>> >ham sandwich!
>>
>> What makes you think I am searching for any god?
>>
>> The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient
>> evidence. Thus proving nuts are everywhere.
>
>Chock full o'Nuts is that heavenly coffee!...
>
>
>Since your quest to find proof of God led you to a...ham sandwich, I
>have to go by what your eyes see.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

"What makes you think I am searching for any god?"

>
>Maybe you found God in a ham sandwich.
>
>
>So, to continue, I need to use your ham sandwich as proof of God.
>
>
>If you go to the store
>to buy Ham, and you get home
>and realize you forgot to
>buy the bread...
>
>and you take the Ham out
>of the packaging
>and eat it, it's not
>a ham sandwich.
>
>You need at least
>two slices of bread
>to make a ham sandwich.
>
>If you have
>two slices of bread
>you can make the
>ham sandwich,
>a chicken sandwich
>a grilled cheese sandwich
>a BLT
>a hamburger sandwich
>even
>a hotdog sandwich!
>
>So, a sandwich
>is a ...creation.
>
>It's an arrangement...
>
>you create a sandwich
>that looks like a
>sandwich...
>
>I mean, you saw a
>ham sandwich
>which means it had to
>have at least two
>slices of bread on it
>to be considered
>a sandwich...
>a ham sandwich.
>
>It is simply
>a creation, an
>arrangement
>of materials on
>earth to create
>what appears
>to you to be
>a ham sandwich.
>
>You change the
>arrangement and
>it could easily be
>a hotdog sandwich.
>
>Now, look out your
>window...do you see
>that tree over there?
>
>It's not a tree.
>
>

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

On 2024-05-31 20:37:52 +0000, Attila < said:

> On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> [ … ]
>>
>>> The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient
>>> evidence. Thus proving nuts are everywhere.
>>
>> Chock full o'Nuts is that heavenly coffee!...

I first encountered Chock full o'Nuts during aperiod of coffee
deprivation in China in 1983. All I could find in the hotel shop was
Chock full o'Nuts. "Heavenly" is not the word I'd use. It was
absolutely the most vile coffee I have ever had. Maxwell House looked
good by comparison.

--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

to all atheists,

you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On 5/06/2024 4:47 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> to all atheists,
>
> you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.

To do what?

To do the right thing? That could be a very long wait.

A better way to say it is, "You may not believe in God, but He can do
wonders with your life."

But your sentiment is nice.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> to all atheists,
>
> you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.
>

The atheist looks at God and says, "Okay, you got me. What else did I
get wrong?"

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > to all atheists,
> >
> > you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.
> >
>
> The atheist looks at God and says, "Okay, you got me. What else did I
> get wrong?"
>

The atheist looks at God and says, "Well, this is a bit of a plot twist,
isn't it?"

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > to all atheists,
> > >
> > > you may not believe in God, but God believes in you.
> > >
> >
> > The atheist looks at God and says, "Okay, you got me. What else did I
> > get wrong?"
> >
>
> The atheist looks at God and says, "Well, this is a bit of a plot twist,
> isn't it?"

The atheist looks at Jesus and says, "So, about that whole walking on
water thing... can I get a demonstration?"

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

Attila < wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
> >> >> >> existence of any god.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
> >> >>
> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
> >>
> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
> >> >
> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
> >> >
> >>
> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
> >>
> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
> >> needed.
> >
> >I think you are not understanding...
>
> So you say. I require a bit more.
>
> >
> >God is everywhere, but
> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
> >
> >I didn't say "Look over there."
> >
> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
> >
> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
> >
> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
> >
> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
> >
> >
> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>
> I rest my case.

Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
> Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>
>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>
>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>> needed.
>>>
>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>
>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>
>>>
>>> God is everywhere, but
>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>
>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>
>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>
>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>
>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>
>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>
>> I rest my case.
>
>
> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>
>
>
i stole the resting case

Attila < wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> >Now, look out your
> >window...do you see
> >that tree over there?
> >
> >It's not a tree.

This is not Abraham Lincoln:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lincoln_statue%2C_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

The Starmaker wrote:
> Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>> Now, look out your
>>> window...do you see
>>> that tree over there?
>>>
>>> It's not a tree.
>
>
> This is not Abraham Lincoln:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lincoln_statue%2C_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
oh good , you guys are deaf

The Starmaker wrote:

> The atheist looks at Jesus and says, "So, about that whole walking on
> water thing... can I get a demonstration?"

you are a money-changer. A putrid capitalist sack of shit.

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Victory for Kiev would allow its foreign backers to exploit and take over
its economy, the Hungarian PM has claimed
https://r%74.com/news/599045-orban-ukraine-west-money/

“They wish to go back to the 90s, when not only Ukraine, but also Russia
was available, those resources, wealth, money... Many Americans and
Europeans remember the 90s as a period of great economic opportunities,
when they were welcomed without any obstacles into the Russian economy,
and
started to transform and exploit it,” he said, adding, however, that
eventually the Russians “decided it was not such a brilliant idea” and
took
their economy back.

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On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:11:24 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6664ACDC.4D78@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> >Now, look out your
>> >window...do you see
>> >that tree over there?
>> >
>> >It's not a tree.
>
>
>This is not Abraham Lincoln:
>
>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lincoln_statue%2C_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg

I did not write that.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Attila < wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Attila < wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>> >> >> >> existence of any god.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>> >>
>> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>> >> >
>> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>> >>
>> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>> >> needed.
>> >
>> >I think you are not understanding...
>>
>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>
>> >
>> >God is everywhere, but
>> >You cannot look everywhere at once.
>> >
>> >I didn't say "Look over there."
>> >
>> >If you look over there you might see a rock..
>> >
>> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>> >
>> >God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>> >
>> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>> >
>> >
>> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>
>> I rest my case.
>
>
>Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"

As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They
consider it evidence.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

--
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On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Attila < wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>
>>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>
>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>
>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>
>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>
>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>
>>> I rest my case.
>>
>>
>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>
> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They

Everything is evidence there is a God.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>
>>>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>
>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>
>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>
>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>
>>>> I rest my case.
>>>
>>>
>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>
>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They
>
>Everything is evidence there is a God.

That is what I mean. That attitude allows no further
discussion.

BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
that conclusion? Or is it only your unsupported belief?

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>In the Name of Jesus

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>
>>>>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"

It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
creating itself.

>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They
>>
>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>
> That is what I mean. That attitude allows no further
> discussion.

Well, everything is the evidence for God.

And yes, we have differing experience.

> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
> that conclusion? Or is it only your unsupported belief?

Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
there is no God!"

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > >Now, look out your
> > >window...do you see
> > >that tree over there?
> > >
> > >It's not a tree.
>
> This is not Abraham Lincoln:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lincoln_statue%2C_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg

You look out your
window, it's still not a tree..

someone, something took
something and formed it, shaped it...
to look like a tree.

It's not a tree.

and
it's not Abraham Lincoln...

someone, something took
something and formed it, shaped it...
to look like Abraham Lincoln

it's not Abraham Lincoln..

it's a marble stone
formed and shaped ..
to look like Abraham Lincoln

it's not Abraham Lincoln..

It's not a tree.

Now, why would anyone
make a tree that isn't a tree?

Is God playing a joke on you?

All the world is a stage
And all the trees merely players..
And one tree in it's time plays many parts...

>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:04:38 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<6667F706.7071@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Attila < wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >Now, look out your
>> > >window...do you see
>> > >that tree over there?
>> > >
>> > >It's not a tree.
>>
>> This is not Abraham Lincoln:
>>
>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lincoln_statue%2C_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg
>
>
>You look out your
>window, it's still not a tree..
>
>someone, something took
>something and formed it, shaped it...
>to look like a tree.
>
>It's not a tree.
>
> and
>it's not Abraham Lincoln...
>
>someone, something took
>something and formed it, shaped it...
>to look like Abraham Lincoln
>
>it's not Abraham Lincoln..
>
>it's a marble stone
>formed and shaped ..
>to look like Abraham Lincoln
>
>it's not Abraham Lincoln..
>
>It's not a tree.
>
>Now, why would anyone
>make a tree that isn't a tree?
>
>Is God playing a joke on you?
>
>
>All the world is a stage
>And all the trees merely players..
>And one tree in it's time plays many parts...

There are too many possible alternatives to accept something
with no supporting evidence as being true.

And no amount of verbosity will change that.

>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge the unchallengeable.

Always question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, think
the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the
unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 09:39:54 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
message-id <v482sa$l4q3$3@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 10/06/2024 6:08 pm, Attila wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:20:48 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> in alt.atheism with
>> message-id <v459s0$3r090$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/06/2024 7:24 am, Attila wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:06:38 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <6664ABBE.2601@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker
>>>>>>>>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have not looked everywhere. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I
>>>>>>>> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere'
>>>>>>>>> you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand
>>>>>>>>> what he sees everywhere pass the glass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is
>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are not understanding...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you say. I require a bit more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God is everywhere, but
>>>>>>> You cannot look everywhere at once.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't say "Look over there."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look over there you might see a rock..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but if you look eveywhere..you see...God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God is everywhere, not ...over there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A rock is not everywhere, it's over there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I rest my case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Attila < wrote: "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!"
>
>It is if you bother to look at what constitutes a ham sandwich, where
>that ham sandwich came from, and the impossibility of everything
>creating itself.

There are too many possible alternatives to attribute
anything to an intelligent source.

>
>
>
>>>> As I said, for some that is all that is necessary. They
>>>
>>> Everything is evidence there is a God.
>>
>> That is what I mean. That attitude allows no further
>> discussion.
>
>Well, everything is the evidence for God.
>
>And yes, we have differing experience.

Thus making the experience of someone else useless.

>
>> BTW, where is any supporting evidence (actual facts) for
>> that conclusion? Or is it only your unsupported belief?
>
>
>Is this the point where I say, "Oh look! There is an Attila! That proves
>there is no God!"

You cannot prove a negative.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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"Attila" wrote in message news:ok8g6jtcgcjgt2av1eg3joil925cd6ctka@4ax.com...
> There are too many possible alternatives to
> attribute anything to an intelligent source.

But you cannot cite any that are
not dependent upon pure fantasy.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 05:19:32 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<UgX9O.80747$iYk2.46502@fx06.ams4> wrote:

>"Attila" wrote in message news:ok8g6jtcgcjgt2av1eg3joil925cd6ctka@4ax.com...
>
>> There are too many possible alternatives to
>> attribute anything to an intelligent source.
>
>But you cannot cite any that are
>not dependent upon pure fantasy.

Not nearly as dependent as your assertion.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

--
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