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In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
to support that.
In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
wasn’t based on data.”

By Dan Diamond
June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT

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The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
overall health and wellness.
Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
“I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
after all.

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“It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
to a transcript released in May.
Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
urging people to stand six feet apart.
Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
by evidence.
“We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
public health advice during the next crisis.
The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
too difficult to implement.
Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
of social distance.
“The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
they were farther than six feet apart.
“There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
reporting to work during the pandemic.
Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
“Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
Bezos owns The Washington Post.
Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
thing to do,” Nantel said.
Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
declined to comment.
The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
“What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
is it this way.”

Michael Ejercito wrote:

>https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>
>In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
>to support that.
>In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
>Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
>wasn’t based on data.”
>
>By Dan Diamond
>June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
>
>Add to your saved stories
>Save
>The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
>evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
>distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
>during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
>overall health and wellness.
>Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
>secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
>justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
>contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
>“I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
>us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
>have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
>submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
>Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
>The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
>until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
>against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
>congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
>the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
>during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
>recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
>long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
>acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
>after all.
>
>Follow Health & wellness
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>“It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
>Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
>to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
>recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
>Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
>Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
>aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
>to a transcript released in May.
>Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
>particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
>to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
>in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
>urging people to stand six feet apart.
>Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
>the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
>sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
>Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
>changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
>prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
>cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
>by evidence.
>“We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
>economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
>around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
>social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
>public health advice during the next crisis.
>The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
>countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
>distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
>concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
>infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
>The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
>CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
>Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
>in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
>It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
>the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
>guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
>contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
>drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
>book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
>initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
>too difficult to implement.
>Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
>evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
>complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
>between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
>than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
>environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
>of social distance.
>“The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
>several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
>through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
>wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
>improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
>Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
>officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
>distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
>as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
>health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
>transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
>several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
>people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
>they were farther than six feet apart.
>“There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
>CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
>committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
>for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
>of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
>It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
>swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
>plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
>CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
>reporting to work during the pandemic.
>Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
>founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
>March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
>Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
>coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
>rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
>were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
>“Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
>Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
>alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
>dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
>of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
>five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
>Bezos owns The Washington Post.
>Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
>Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
>the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
>said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
>its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
>guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
>thing to do,” Nantel said.
>Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
>to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
>happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
>Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
>But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
>pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
>Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
>Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
>quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
>Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
>his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
>working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
>students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
>declined to comment.
>The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
>guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
>for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
>several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
>Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
>the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
>pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
>health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
>bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
>“What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
>McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
>broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
>people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
>is it this way.”

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https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>>
>> In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
>> to support that.
>> In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
>> Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
>> wasn’t based on data.”
>>
>> By Dan Diamond
>> June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
>>
>> Add to your saved stories
>> Save
>> The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
>> evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
>> distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
>> during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
>> overall health and wellness.
>> Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
>> secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
>> justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
>> contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
>> “I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
>> us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
>> have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
>> submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
>> Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
>> The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
>> until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
>> against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
>> congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
>> the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
>> during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
>> recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
>> long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
>> acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
>> after all.
>>
>> Follow Health & wellness
>> Follow
>> “It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
>> Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
>> to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
>> recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
>> Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
>> Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
>> aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
>> to a transcript released in May.
>> Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
>> particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
>> to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
>> in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
>> urging people to stand six feet apart.
>> Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
>> the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
>> sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
>> Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
>> changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
>> prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
>> cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
>> by evidence.
>> “We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
>> economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
>> around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
>> social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
>> public health advice during the next crisis.
>> The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
>> countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
>> distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
>> concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
>> infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
>> The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
>> CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
>> Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
>> in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
>> It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
>> the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
>> guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
>> contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
>> drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
>> book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
>> initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
>> too difficult to implement.
>> Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
>> evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
>> complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
>> between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
>> than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
>> environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
>> of social distance.
>> “The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
>> several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
>> through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
>> wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
>> improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
>> Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
>> officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
>> distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
>> as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
>> health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
>> transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
>> several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
>> people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
>> they were farther than six feet apart.
>> “There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
>> CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
>> committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
>> for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
>> of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
>> It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
>> swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
>> plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
>> CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
>> reporting to work during the pandemic.
>> Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
>> founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
>> March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
>> Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
>> coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
>> rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
>> were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
>> “Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
>> Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
>> alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
>> dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
>> of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
>> five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
>> Bezos owns The Washington Post.
>> Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
>> Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
>> the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
>> said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
>> its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
>> guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
>> thing to do,” Nantel said.
>> Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
>> to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
>> happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
>> Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
>> But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
>> pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
>> Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
>> Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
>> quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
>> Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
>> his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
>> working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
>> students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
>> declined to comment.
>> The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
>> guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
>> for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
>> several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
>> Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
>> the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
>> pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
>> health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
>> bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
>> “What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
>> McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
>> broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
>> people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
>> is it this way.”
>
> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>
> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
> longer effective.
>
> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
> So how are you ?
>
I am wonderfully hungry!

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>>>
>>> In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
>>> to support that.
>>> In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
>>> Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
>>> wasn’t based on data.”
>>>
>>> By Dan Diamond
>>> June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
>>>
>>> Add to your saved stories
>>> Save
>>> The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
>>> evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
>>> distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
>>> during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
>>> overall health and wellness.
>>> Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
>>> secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
>>> justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
>>> contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
>>> “I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
>>> us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
>>> have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
>>> submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
>>> Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
>>> The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
>>> until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
>>> against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
>>> congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
>>> the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
>>> during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
>>> recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
>>> long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
>>> acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
>>> after all.
>>>
>>> Follow Health & wellness
>>> Follow
>>> “It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
>>> Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
>>> to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
>>> recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
>>> Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
>>> Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
>>> aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
>>> to a transcript released in May.
>>> Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
>>> particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
>>> to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
>>> in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
>>> urging people to stand six feet apart.
>>> Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
>>> the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
>>> sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
>>> Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
>>> changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
>>> prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
>>> cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
>>> by evidence.
>>> “We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
>>> economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
>>> around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
>>> social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
>>> public health advice during the next crisis.
>>> The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
>>> countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
>>> distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
>>> concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
>>> infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
>>> The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
>>> CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
>>> Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
>>> in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
>>> It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
>>> the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
>>> guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
>>> contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
>>> drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
>>> book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
>>> initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
>>> too difficult to implement.
>>> Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
>>> evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
>>> complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
>>> between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
>>> than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
>>> environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
>>> of social distance.
>>> “The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
>>> several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
>>> through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
>>> wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
>>> improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
>>> Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
>>> officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
>>> distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
>>> as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
>>> health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
>>> transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
>>> several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
>>> people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
>>> they were farther than six feet apart.
>>> “There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
>>> CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
>>> committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
>>> for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
>>> of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
>>> It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
>>> swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
>>> plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
>>> CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
>>> reporting to work during the pandemic.
>>> Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
>>> founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
>>> March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
>>> Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
>>> coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
>>> rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
>>> were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
>>> “Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
>>> Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
>>> alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
>>> dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
>>> of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
>>> five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
>>> Bezos owns The Washington Post.
>>> Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
>>> Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
>>> the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
>>> said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
>>> its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
>>> guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
>>> thing to do,” Nantel said.
>>> Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
>>> to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
>>> happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
>>> Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
>>> But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
>>> pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
>>> Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
>>> Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
>>> quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
>>> Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
>>> his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
>>> working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
>>> students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
>>> declined to comment.
>>> The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
>>> guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
>>> for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
>>> several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
>>> Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
>>> the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
>>> pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
>>> health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
>>> bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
>>> “What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
>>> McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
>>> broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
>>> people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
>>> is it this way.”
>>
>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>
>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>> longer effective.
>>
>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
>
> I am wonderfully hungry!

HeartDoc Andrew wrote:
> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>>>>
>>>> In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
>>>> to support that.
>>>> In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
>>>> Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
>>>> wasn’t based on data.”
>>>>
>>>> By Dan Diamond
>>>> June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
>>>>
>>>> Add to your saved stories
>>>> Save
>>>> The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
>>>> evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
>>>> distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
>>>> during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
>>>> overall health and wellness.
>>>> Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
>>>> secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
>>>> justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
>>>> contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
>>>> “I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
>>>> us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
>>>> have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
>>>> submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
>>>> Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
>>>> The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
>>>> until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
>>>> against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
>>>> congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
>>>> the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
>>>> during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
>>>> recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
>>>> long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
>>>> acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
>>>> after all.
>>>>
>>>> Follow Health & wellness
>>>> Follow
>>>> “It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
>>>> Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
>>>> to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
>>>> recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
>>>> Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
>>>> Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
>>>> aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
>>>> to a transcript released in May.
>>>> Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
>>>> particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
>>>> to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
>>>> in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
>>>> urging people to stand six feet apart.
>>>> Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
>>>> the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
>>>> sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
>>>> Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
>>>> changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
>>>> prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
>>>> cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
>>>> by evidence.
>>>> “We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
>>>> economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
>>>> around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
>>>> social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
>>>> public health advice during the next crisis.
>>>> The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
>>>> countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
>>>> distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
>>>> concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
>>>> infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
>>>> The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
>>>> CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
>>>> Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
>>>> in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
>>>> It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
>>>> the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
>>>> guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
>>>> contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
>>>> drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
>>>> book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
>>>> initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
>>>> too difficult to implement.
>>>> Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
>>>> evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
>>>> complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
>>>> between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
>>>> than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
>>>> environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
>>>> of social distance.
>>>> “The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
>>>> several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
>>>> through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
>>>> wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
>>>> improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
>>>> Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
>>>> officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
>>>> distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
>>>> as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
>>>> health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
>>>> transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
>>>> several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
>>>> people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
>>>> they were farther than six feet apart.
>>>> “There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
>>>> CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
>>>> committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
>>>> for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
>>>> of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
>>>> It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
>>>> swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
>>>> plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
>>>> CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
>>>> reporting to work during the pandemic.
>>>> Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
>>>> founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
>>>> March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
>>>> Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
>>>> coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
>>>> rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
>>>> were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
>>>> “Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
>>>> Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
>>>> alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
>>>> dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
>>>> of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
>>>> five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
>>>> Bezos owns The Washington Post.
>>>> Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
>>>> Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
>>>> the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
>>>> said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
>>>> its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
>>>> guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
>>>> thing to do,” Nantel said.
>>>> Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
>>>> to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
>>>> happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
>>>> Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
>>>> But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
>>>> pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
>>>> Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
>>>> Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
>>>> quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
>>>> Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
>>>> his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
>>>> working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
>>>> students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
>>>> declined to comment.
>>>> The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
>>>> guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
>>>> for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
>>>> several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
>>>> Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
>>>> the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
>>>> pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
>>>> health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
>>>> bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
>>>> “What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
>>>> McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
>>>> broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
>>>> people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
>>>> is it this way.”
>>>
>>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
>>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>>> longer effective.
>>>
>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>>
>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>
> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
> 8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
> 17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
> COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
> Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
> Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
> always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
> including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
> all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
> the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>
> Laus DEO !
>
Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>>>>>
>>>>> In the pandemic, we were told to keep 6 feet apart. There’s no science
>>>>> to support that.
>>>>> In a congressional appearance, infectious-disease expert Anthony S.
>>>>> Fauci characterized the recommendation as “an empiric decision that
>>>>> wasn’t based on data.”
>>>>>
>>>>> By Dan Diamond
>>>>> June 2, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. EDT
>>>>>
>>>>> Add to your saved stories
>>>>> Save
>>>>> The nation’s top mental health official had spent months asking for
>>>>> evidence behind the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s social
>>>>> distancing guidelines, warning that keeping Americans physically apart
>>>>> during the coronavirus pandemic would harm patients, businesses, and
>>>>> overall health and wellness.
>>>>> Now, Elinore McCance-Katz, the Trump administration’s assistant
>>>>> secretary for mental health and substance use, was urging the CDC to
>>>>> justify its recommendation that Americans stay six feet apart to avoid
>>>>> contracting covid-19 — or get rid of it.
>>>>> “I very much hope that CDC will revisit this decision or at least tell
>>>>> us that there is more and stronger data to support this rule than what I
>>>>> have been able to find online,” McCance-Katz wrote in a June 2020 memo
>>>>> submitted to the CDC and other health agency leaders and obtained by The
>>>>> Washington Post. “If not, they should pull it back.”
>>>>> The CDC would keep its six-foot social distance recommendation in place
>>>>> until August 2022, with some modifications as Americans got vaccinated
>>>>> against the virus and officials pushed to reopen schools. Now,
>>>>> congressional investigators are set Monday to press Anthony S. Fauci,
>>>>> the infectious-disease doctor who served as a key coronavirus adviser
>>>>> during the Trump and Biden administrations, on why the CDC’s
>>>>> recommendation was allowed to shape so much of American life for so
>>>>> long, particularly given Fauci and other officials’ recent
>>>>> acknowledgments that there was little science behind the six-foot rule
>>>>> after all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow Health & wellness
>>>>> Follow
>>>>> “It sort of just appeared, that six feet is going to be the distance,”
>>>>> Fauci testified to Congress in a January closed-door hearing, according
>>>>> to a transcribed interview released Friday. Fauci characterized the
>>>>> recommendation as “an empiric decision that wasn’t based on data.”
>>>>> Francis S. Collins, former director of the National Institutes of
>>>>> Health, also privately testified to Congress in January that he was not
>>>>> aware of evidence behind the social distancing recommendation, according
>>>>> to a transcript released in May.
>>>>> Four years later, visible reminders of the six-foot rule remain with us,
>>>>> particularly in cities that rushed to adopt the CDC’s guidelines hoping
>>>>> to protect residents and keep businesses open. D.C. is dotted with signs
>>>>> in stores and schools — even on sidewalks or in government buildings —
>>>>> urging people to stand six feet apart.
>>>>> Experts agree that social distancing saved lives, particularly early in
>>>>> the pandemic when Americans had no protections against a novel virus
>>>>> sickening millions of people. One recent paper published by the
>>>>> Brookings Institution, a nonpartisan think tank, concludes that behavior
>>>>> changes to avoid developing covid-19, followed later by vaccinations,
>>>>> prevented about 800,000 deaths. But that achievement came at enormous
>>>>> cost, the authors added, with inflexible strategies that weren’t driven
>>>>> by evidence.
>>>>> “We never did the study about what works,” said Andrew Atkeson, a UCLA
>>>>> economist and co-author of the paper, lamenting the lack of evidence
>>>>> around the six-foot rule. He warned that persistent frustrations over
>>>>> social distancing and other measures might lead Americans to ignore
>>>>> public health advice during the next crisis.
>>>>> The U.S. distancing measure was particularly stringent, as other
>>>>> countries adopted shorter distances; the World Health Organization set a
>>>>> distance of one meter, or slightly more than three feet, which experts
>>>>> concluded was roughly as effective as the six-foot mark at deterring
>>>>> infections, and would have allowed schools to reopen more rapidly.
>>>>> The six-foot rule was “probably the single most costly intervention the
>>>>> CDC recommended that was consistently applied throughout the pandemic,”
>>>>> Scott Gottlieb, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, wrote
>>>>> in his book about the pandemic, “Uncontrolled Spread.”
>>>>> It’s still not clear who at the CDC settled on the six-foot distance;
>>>>> the agency has repeatedly declined to specify the authors of the
>>>>> guidance, which resembled its recommendations on how to avoid
>>>>> contracting the flu. A CDC spokesperson credited a team of experts, who
>>>>> drew from research such as a 1955 study on respiratory droplets. In his
>>>>> book, Gottlieb wrote that the Trump White House pushed back on the CDC’s
>>>>> initial recommendation of 10 feet of social distance, saying it would be
>>>>> too difficult to implement.
>>>>> Perhaps the rule’s biggest impact was on children, despite ample
>>>>> evidence they were at relatively low risk of covid-related
>>>>> complications. Many schools were unable to accommodate six feet of space
>>>>> between students’ desks and forced to rely on virtual education for more
>>>>> than a year, said Joseph Allen, a Harvard University expert in
>>>>> environmental health, who called in 2020 for schools to adopt three feet
>>>>> of social distance.
>>>>> “The six-foot rule was really an error that had been propagated for
>>>>> several decades, based on a misunderstanding of how particles traveled
>>>>> through indoor spaces,” Allen said, adding that health experts often
>>>>> wrongly focused on avoiding droplets from infected people rather than
>>>>> improving ventilation and filtration inside buildings.
>>>>> Social distancing had champions before the pandemic. Bush administration
>>>>> officials, working on plans to fight bioterrorism, concluded that social
>>>>> distancing could save lives in a health crisis and renewed their calls
>>>>> as the coronavirus approached. The idea also took hold when public
>>>>> health experts initially believed that the coronavirus was often
>>>>> transmitted by droplets expelled by infected people, which could land
>>>>> several feet away; the CDC later acknowledged the virus was airborne and
>>>>> people could be exposed just by sharing the same air in a room, even if
>>>>> they were farther than six feet apart.
>>>>> “There was no magic around six feet,” Robert R. Redfield, who served as
>>>>> CDC director during the Trump administration, told a congressional
>>>>> committee in March 2022. “It’s just historically that’s what was used
>>>>> for other respiratory pathogens. So that really became the first piece”
>>>>> of a strategy to protect Americans in the early days of the virus, he said.
>>>>> It also became the standard that states and businesses adopted, with
>>>>> swift pressure on holdouts. Lawmakers and workers urged meat processing
>>>>> plants, delivery companies and other essential businesses to adopt the
>>>>> CDC’s social distancing recommendations as their employees continued
>>>>> reporting to work during the pandemic.
>>>>> Some business leaders weren’t sure the measures made sense. Jeff Bezos,
>>>>> founder of online retail giant Amazon, petitioned the White House in
>>>>> March 2020 to consider revising the six-foot recommendation, said Adam
>>>>> Boehler, then a senior Trump administration official helping with the
>>>>> coronavirus response. At the time, Amazon was facing questions about a
>>>>> rising number of infections in its warehouses, and Democratic senators
>>>>> were urging the company to adopt social distancing.
>>>>> “Bezos called me and asked, is there any real science behind this rule?”
>>>>> Boehler said, adding that Bezos pushed on whether Amazon could adopt an
>>>>> alternative distance if workers were masked, physically separated by
>>>>> dividers or other precautions were taken. “He said … it’s the backbone
>>>>> of trying to keep America running here, and when you separate somebody
>>>>> five feet versus six feet, it’s a big difference,” Boehler recalled.
>>>>> Bezos owns The Washington Post.
>>>>> Kelly Nantel, an Amazon spokesperson, confirmed that Bezos called
>>>>> Boehler and said the Amazon founder’s focus was the discrepancy between
>>>>> the U.S. recommendation and the WHO’s shorter distance. The company soon
>>>>> said it would follow the CDC’s six-foot social distancing guidelines in
>>>>> its warehouses and later developed technologies to try to enforce those
>>>>> guidelines. “We did it globally everywhere because it was the right
>>>>> thing to do,” Nantel said.
>>>>> Boehler said he spoke with Redfield and Fauci about testing alternatives
>>>>> to the six-foot recommendation but that he was not aware of what
>>>>> happened to those tests or what they found. Fauci declined to comment.
>>>>> Redfield did not respond to requests for comment.
>>>>> But challenging the six-foot recommendation, particularly in the
>>>>> pandemic’s early days, was seen as politically difficult. Rochelle
>>>>> Walensky, then chief of infectious disease at Massachusetts General
>>>>> Hospital, argued in a July 2020 email that “if people are masked it is
>>>>> quite safe and much more practical to be at 3 feet” in many school settings.
>>>>> Five months later, incoming president Joe Biden would tap Walensky as
>>>>> his CDC director. Walensky swiftly endorsed the six-foot distance before
>>>>> working to loosen it, announcing in March 2021 that elementary school
>>>>> students could sit three feet apart if they were masked. Walensky
>>>>> declined to comment.
>>>>> The most persistent government critic of the social distancing
>>>>> guidelines may have been McCance-Katz, who did not respond to requests
>>>>> for comment for this article. Trump’s mental health chief had spent
>>>>> several years clashing with other Department of Health and Human
>>>>> Services officials on various matters and had few internal defenders by
>>>>> the time the pandemic arrived, hampering her message. But while her
>>>>> pleas failed to move the CDC, her warnings about the risks to mental
>>>>> health found an audience with Trump and his allies, who blamed federal
>>>>> bureaucrats for the six-foot rule and other measures.
>>>>> “What is this nonsense that somehow it’s unsafe to return to school?”
>>>>> McCance-Katz said in September 2020 on an HHS podcast, lamenting the
>>>>> broader shutdown of American life. “I do think that Americans are smart
>>>>> people, and I think that they need to start asking questions about why
>>>>> is it this way.”
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of
>>>> GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's
>>>> secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps
>>>> us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne
>>>> pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being
>>>> 100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**
>>>> appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the
>>>> COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by
>>>> rapidly (i.e. use the "Rapid COVID-19 Test" ) finding out at any given
>>>> moment, including even while on-line, who among us are unwittingly
>>>> contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic) in order to
>>>> "convince it forward" (John 15:12) for them to call their doctor and
>>>> self-quarantine per their doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic.
>>>> Thus, we're hoping for the best while preparing for the worse-case
>>>> scenario of the Alpha lineage mutations and others like the Omicron,
>>>> Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota, Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations
>>>> combining via slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like "Deltamicron"
>>>> that may render current COVID vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no
>>>> longer effective.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>
>>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>>
>> While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
>> 8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
>> 17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
>> COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
>> Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
>> Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
>> always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
>> including especially caring to "convince it forward" (John 15:12) with
>> all glory (Psalm112:1) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
>> the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
>>
>> Laus DEO !
>
> Thank you for noting that I have no COVID.

(Elinore) 06/05/24 Again, behold ...

Being unkind to "wonderfully hungry" Michael Ejercito is sin ...

.... just as being unkind to "wonderfully hungry" (i.e. longing to eat
at the rich man's table) Lazarus was the rich man's sin that he wanted
Father Abraham to send Lazarus to warn his brothers not to commit.

Just as this sinning against "wonderfully hungry" Lazarus caused the
rich man to lose his salvation despite being a "son of Abraham," we
are in danger of losing our salvation and automatically going straight
to Hell for being unkind to Michael Ejercito.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/JaC_fVym8fA/m/yClWTlaVAAAJ

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

....because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://WonderfullyHungry.org
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 07:46:47 -0400, HeartDoc Andrew
<disciple@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>Michael Ejercito wrote:
>
>>https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/1d6qawr/in_the_pandemic_we_were_told_to_keep_6_feet_apart/
>>

>
>Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
>So how are you ?

You should be ashamed of yourself for taking advantage of simpletons
like Ejercito and Markea Blakely-Berry. The girl's mother acknowledges
that you knew her daughter was a retard, and we've all known about
Michael for years. It is no wonder they revoked your license, you lack
common decency.

<Elinore> 06/05/24 Loose/KK again vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://narkive.com/GHNKXeiE.10

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

.... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://WonderfullyHungry.org like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://WonderfullyHungry.org (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

>Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

>He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
>'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD for His compelling you
to unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition
which is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you
more than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

>Psalms
>81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
>open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://WDJW.great-site.net/Redeemed want even more, so that
we're even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

>Proverbs
>13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
>the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

>Joel
>2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
>the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
>people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

>Psalms
>107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

>Acts
>14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
>giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
>your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

<Elinore> 06/05/24 Again, behold in wide-eyed wonder ...

GOD uses all things, which include the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned
such as LoosePeeledRiainDeborahQuackIdiot fake-KK(QQ)-nymshifter et
al, for the good of the wonderfully hungry which includes confirming
the infinite (Phil 4:13) power of an eternal (John 3:16) medical
license to their infinite chagrin:

https://narkive.com/ooZk4wnE.5

Michael Ejercito wrote:
> someone enroute to Hell whined:
>> Michael Ejercito wrote:
>>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry (
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/6ZoE95d-VKc/m/14vVZoyOBgAJ
>>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>>
>>>> So how are you ?
>>>>
>>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael

Source:
https://narkive.com/BR4d24ww.5

>> Listen you ignorant gook, Markea Blakely-Berry was wonderfully hungry ...

No, tragically she was not.

Instead, her mom was wonderfully hungry and to this day is
saying/writing she's wonderfully hungry when she's greeted while her
daughter never did.

Outside of the Holy Spirit, all ordinary humans are always terribly
hungry as evident by their always misbehaving terribly acting like
Markea running away from her mom to eat rotting food from the bottom
of a Walmart dumpster to become terribly **not** hungry (i.e. full).

>> too listening to the Quack and look what happened to her:
>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/hungry-doctor-diet-kill-georgia-teenager/story?id=16661077

Outside of the Holy Spirit, she was listening to satan who is indeed
the fraud/quack.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLojgoZwsw
>
> She starved to death.

Actually, her wonderfully hungry mom describing Markea having seizures
as she became unresponsive means instead of starvation, there was a
neurological event (i.e. brain parasite) because the ketones from
starvation would've suppressed seizures.

Here's a recent documented example of brain parasites from tainted
food as an illustration:

"A middle-aged man in the US with a history of consuming undercooked
'soft' bacon for years has been found to have tapeworm larva infecting
his brain, doctors reported in a new study."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/us-man-brain-worm-bacon-b2511101.html

>>
>> https://gcmb.mylicense.com/verification
>>
>> Name: Andrew Ben-Hua Chung
>> Designation: MD
>> Lic #: 40347
>> Profession: Physician
>> Subtype: Full
>> Status: Lapsed
>> Issued: 8/3/1995
>> Expires: 7/31/2017
>> Street Address: **********
>> MABLETON GA 30126
>> County: Cobb
>> Country: United States
>> Public Document 04-40347
>>
>> ORDER OF THE BOARD:
>> Comes now, the Georgia Composite Medical Board and hereby enters an
>> Order after reviewing the Initial Decision in the above styled case.
>> After hearing the argument and testimony of the Appellant herein,
>> Andrew Ben-Hua Chung, M.D., the Board finds as follows after
>> deliberation:
>>
>> FINDINGS OF FACT: The Board agrees with the initial decision.
>> CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
>> The Board agrees with the initial decision regarding conclusions of
>> law.
>>
>> CONCLUSION
>> The Board Orders that the respondent's license is revoked instanter.
>> This the 9th day of March 2017.

All glory to GOD for His sending COVID-19 to kill off the members of
the Board ("Vengeance is Mine," says the LORD, "and I will avenge")
and show that, in the Holy Spirit, https://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew has
an eternal (John 3:16) medical license as evident by his eradicating
the virus by using #WTEC at http://WonderfullyHungry.org for all to
witness.

Laus DEO ( https://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 )

> As the Peeler pointed out, he still has his doctorate!

And as GOD continues to show via http://WonderfullyHungry.org ,
https://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew now has an infinitely (Philippians 4:13)
more powerful & effective (Mark 16:18) eternal (John 3:16) medical
license from the same GOD Who licensed Dr. Luke in the Bible.

Laus DEO :-)

In the interim, while wonderfully hungry (
https://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy Spirit (Galatians
5:22-23), Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) the eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, who are headed
straight to Hell, more than ever withering them away, in the Wonderful
(Isaiah 9:6) name (John 16:23) of our LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.

"This is being done for you, disciple https://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew "
-- Holy Spirit referring to John 16:23 and http://WDJW.net

"In that day you (who are My disciples) will no longer ask Me
anything. Very truly I tell you, My Father will give you whatever you
ask in My name." (John 16:23 w/ parenthetical clarification)

Source:
https://biblehub.com/john/16-23.htm

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike dead http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://WDJW.great-site.net/VAT from around the heart

....because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://WonderfullyHungry.org
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis