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Subject: Knock, knock ...
From: yeti
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 03:21 UTC
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: yeti@tilde.institute (yeti)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Knock, knock ...
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 04:03:39 +0042
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Is this the only I2P(D) group in the NNTP universe?

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Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 11:42 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 11:42:06 +0000
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 3:21:39 +0000, yeti wrote:

> Is this the only I2P(D) group in the NNTP universe?

It just might be :)

The rocksolid.* hierarchy started in i2p, then leaked into Usenet.

Server trivia: "Where did the 'i2p' in 'news.i2pn2.org' come from?
i2pn is an acronym for what?

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: yeti
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 12:58 UTC
References: 1 2
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From: yeti@tilde.institute (yeti)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

> Server trivia: "Where did the 'i2p' in 'news.i2pn2.org' come from?
> i2pn is an acronym for what?

1. Hitchhiker 25:
(41) Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection.
(42) "Tricky," he said finally.
....
(48) "Yes," said Deep Thought. "(...) There is an answer. But," he
added, "I'll have to think about it."

No idea so far. Is the second 2 squaring everything in front of it or
just one char? But I might just have the thinking-too-complicated gene.

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Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 13:29 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 13:29:37 +0000
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 12:58:29 +0000, yeti wrote:

> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
>
>> Server trivia: "Where did the 'i2p' in 'news.i2pn2.org' come from?
>> i2pn is an acronym for what?
>
> 1. Hitchhiker 25:
> (41) Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection.
> (42) "Tricky," he said finally.
> ....
> (48) "Yes," said Deep Thought. "(...) There is an answer. But," he
> added, "I'll have to think about it."
>
>
> No idea so far. Is the second 2 squaring everything in front of it or
> just one char? But I might just have the thinking-too-complicated gene.

Tick...tick...tick... :)

Hint: You are over-thinking it.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:07 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 13:29:37 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 12:58:29 +0000, yeti wrote:
>
>> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Server trivia: "Where did the 'i2p' in 'news.i2pn2.org' come from?
>>> i2pn is an acronym for what?
>>
>> 1. Hitchhiker 25:
>> (41) Deep Thought paused for a moment's reflection.
>> (42) "Tricky," he said finally.
>> ....
>> (48) "Yes," said Deep Thought. "(...) There is an answer. But," he
>> added, "I'll have to think about it."
>>
>>
>> No idea so far. Is the second 2 squaring everything in front of it or
>> just one char? But I might just have the thinking-too-complicated gene.
>
> Tick...tick...tick... :)
>
> Hint: You are over-thinking it.

Oh, and to answer your question above, the '2' is simple and not really
important. My main peering server is 'i2pn', so 'i2pn2' is just the
secondary server, which I use for actual nnrpd (client connections). I keep
peering and clients separate.

Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: yeti
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:20 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4
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From: yeti@tilde.institute (yeti)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:02:47 +0042
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Trying with all 2s "expanded":

Invisible Internet Protocol Net News?

gBo?

....or maybe too straight forward this time...

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Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:17 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:20:47 +0000, yeti wrote:

> Trying with all 2s "expanded":
>
> Invisible Internet Protocol Net News?
>
> gBo?
>
> ....or maybe too straight forward this time...

You got it!

It was specifically:
Invisible Internet Protocol Newsgroups, but Net News works also :)

The first place we peered was in i2p, using inn and Synchronet, and a
modified FudForum as an interface. Since FudForum was a pain, and not
well suited to proper Usenet functionality, we started our own (there
were two of us) web interfaces. Rocksolid Light still continues
development, and is meant to be a proper Usenet client as opposed to
standard web forum software that happens to sync with newsgroups.

nntp/nnrpd access is still accessible, and still peers inside i2p, as
well as at least two rslight instances.

There are still signs of Synchronet hooks inside rslight code, but it is
no longer fully supported. I do still peer one Synchronet install with
rocksolid.*

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: yeti
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Democratic Order of Pirates International (DOPI)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:09 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6
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From: yeti@tilde.institute (yeti)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 16:51:40 +0042
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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:20:47 +0000, yeti wrote:
>
>> Trying with all 2s "expanded":
>>
>> Invisible Internet Protocol Net News?
>
> You got it!

\o/

> It was specifically:
> Invisible Internet Protocol Newsgroups, but Net News works also :)

That was my guess before the update about the trailing "2", so I looked
for a solution with two "n"s.

> The first place we peered was in i2p,

So I2P even before Tor? Interesting!

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say on the subject of flying. (82) There is an art, it says, or rather
a knack to flying. (83) The knack lies in learning how to throw
yourself at the ground and miss.

Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:32 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.shared.i2p
Subject: Re: Knock, knock ...
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:09:40 +0000, yeti wrote:

> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:
>
>> The first place we peered was in i2p,
>
> So I2P even before Tor? Interesting!

Yes, we were both I2P users and wanted a forum in i2p that didn't end up
going away, which they all seem to do at some point. As of now, we've
had a forum interface for, I think, about 7 years now. Reliable and
peered. Not that any i2p bigshots notice this fact, lol. Currently, I
also have two full nntp (inn) peers inside i2p, and two web interfaces.

Tor is a bit different. I do have a presence in Tor, a web interface and
I am willing to peer in Tor, but it's not really very important to me.
It's simple with Tor to just connect to clearnet servers.

As is probably of no surprise, nearly all the abuse on my servers comes
via Tor web interfaces. I have no intention of dropping i2p.

--
Retro Guy

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