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Subject: New Path for Freenet
From: Anonymous
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:13 UTC
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Subject: New Path for Freenet
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I haven't been keeping up with Freenet but it looks like they're switching plans.

They are no longer going to be just an anonymous distributed file storage and retrieval and it seems like they're going the decentralized and distributed applications (dapps) route now and they've ditched the anonymous-first design.

My main issue with peer-to-peer applications has always been privacy, it's bad enough to let a single centralized server or a single decentalized server know too much about you but it's even worse to broadcast information about you to everyone that's interested in your information.

https://freenet.org/faq

>Anonymity: Fred was designed with a strong focus on anonymity. In contrast, Locutus does not offer built-in anonymity, but it is designed to allow anonymizing systems to be layered on top if required.

I think this is a huge mistake. If you don't design your programs to be anonymous-first you'll end up leaking information everywhere.

https://freenet.org/

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>In 1999, we created the original Freenet—the world's first scalable, decentralized, peer-to-peer network. It introduced revolutionary ideas such as cryptographic contracts and small-world networks, and was analogous to a shared hard disk.

>Building on this legacy, we present Freenet 2023— a drop-in decentralized replacement for the world wide web. This new Freenet is analogous to a global shared computer, a platform for sophisticated decentralized software systems. Designed for simplicity and flexibility, Freenet 2023 can be used seamlessly through your web browser, providing an experience that feels just like using the traditional web.

>Freenet 2023 allows developers to create decentralized alternatives to centralized services, including messaging, social media, email, and e-commerce. Our user-friendly decentralized applications are scalable, interoperable, and secured with cryptography.

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Subject: Re: New Path for Freenet
From: Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

> I haven't been keeping up with Freenet but it looks like they're switching plans.

> They are no longer going to be just an anonymous distributed file storage and retrieval and it seems like they're going the decentralized and distributed applications (dapps) route now and they've ditched the anonymous-first design.

> My main issue with peer-to-peer applications has always been privacy, it's bad enough to let a single centralized server or a single decentalized server know too much about you but it's even worse to broadcast information about you to everyone that's interested in your information.

> https://freenet.org/faq

>>Anonymity: Fred was designed with a strong focus on anonymity. In contrast, Locutus does not offer built-in anonymity, but it is designed to allow anonymizing systems to be layered on top if required.

> I think this is a huge mistake. If you don't design your programs to be anonymous-first you'll end up leaking information everywhere.

It sounds like a complete rethink of Freenet. This might lead to users sticking with Freenet7 just like some still stick to Freenet5.

Looks like a completely different project and should probably not be a replacement of Freenet, but a different idea completely.

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