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* polling stops at the same groupMarco Moock
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Subject: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:29 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:29:20 +0100
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Hello!
I currently notice that the polling of new messages stops every time at
the same group.
How can I further diagnose that?

Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.admin: 211 262 1100 1364 de.alt.admin
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.admin We are up to date
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #434
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.admin...
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.admin
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #434
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Retrieving articles for: de.alt.anime...
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.anime: 211 1 50 50 de.alt.anime
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.anime We are up to date
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #447
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.anime...
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.anime
Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #447

If I restart the job, it does the same and stops here.

--
kind regards
Marco

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:49 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.org (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:49:57 -0000 (UTC)
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Marco Moock wrote:

> Hello!
> I currently notice that the polling of new messages stops every time at
> the same group.
> How can I further diagnose that?
>
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.admin: 211 262 1100 1364 de.alt.admin
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.admin We are up to date
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #434
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.admin...
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.admin
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #434
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Retrieving articles for: de.alt.anime...
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.anime: 211 1 50 50 de.alt.anime
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.anime We are up to date
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #447
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.anime...
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.anime
> Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #447
>
> If I restart the job, it does the same and stops here.

First, you might look in
<spooldir>/rocksolid/<server>:<port>-remote_groups.dat and see what it
thinks the last article pulled for rec.arts.anime. It's a serialized
array, so look for something like:

"rocksolid.social";i:244" for whatever group you wish. i2pn2.org shows
that '50' is the highest number on the server, so you should see 50 or
51, but you have no articles in the group on your site, which is
strange.

Try clearing the group:

change to root or www user.

php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance -reset de.alt.anime

and let me know what happens.

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:58 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.org (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:58:07 -0700
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:49:57 -0000 (UTC)
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:

> Marco Moock wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> > I currently notice that the polling of new messages stops every time at
> > the same group.
> > How can I further diagnose that?
> >
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.admin: 211 262 1100 1364 de.alt.admin
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.admin We are up to date
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #434
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.admin...
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.admin
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #434
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Retrieving articles for: de.alt.anime...
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.alt.anime: 211 1 50 50 de.alt.anime
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: for de.alt.anime We are up to date
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #447
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.alt.anime...
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.alt.anime
> > Nov 27 10:19:53 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #447
> >
> > If I restart the job, it does the same and stops here.
>
> First, you might look in
> <spooldir>/rocksolid/<server>:<port>-remote_groups.dat and see what it
> thinks the last article pulled for rec.arts.anime. It's a serialized
> array, so look for something like:
>
> "rocksolid.social";i:244" for whatever group you wish. i2pn2.org shows
> that '50' is the highest number on the server, so you should see 50 or
> 51, but you have no articles in the group on your site, which is
> strange.
>
> Try clearing the group:
>
> change to root or www user.
>
> php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance -reset de.alt.anime
>
> and let me know what happens.
>
I meant:
php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.alt.anime

--
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org>

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:44 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:44:02 +0100
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On 27.11.2024 03:58 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:49:57 -0000 (UTC)
> Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:

> > Try clearing the group:
> >
> > change to root or www user.
> >
> > php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance -reset de.alt.anime
> >
> > and let me know what happens.
> >
> I meant:
> php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.alt.anime

Now the other groups are being polled.
Did you find the cause of the situation?

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:00 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.org (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:00:33 -0700
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:44:02 +0100
Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> On 27.11.2024 03:58 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:49:57 -0000 (UTC)
> > Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
>
> > > Try clearing the group:
> > >
> > > change to root or www user.
> > >
> > > php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance -reset de.alt.anime
> > >
> > > and let me know what happens.
> > >
> > I meant:
> > php <config_dir>/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.alt.anime
>
> Now the other groups are being polled.
> Did you find the cause of the situation?

I think I did, it's just hard to test.

I found that if a group contained zero messages, spoolnews would exit (sort of, but more complicated). I added checking for that, logging for that, then continuing to the next group.

I tested by adding some groups with zero messages on the server, and it seems to work fine on my test server. This was all back the first time we discussed this issue, and was in the 'devel' you installed. This current issue MAY just be a broken group on your site, which we can hopefully fix with maintenance.php.

--
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org>

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 16:36 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On 27.11.2024 05:00 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> I found that if a group contained zero messages, spoolnews would exit
> (sort of, but more complicated). I added checking for that, logging
> for that, then continuing to the next group.
>
> I tested by adding some groups with zero messages on the server, and
> it seems to work fine on my test server. This was all back the first
> time we discussed this issue, and was in the 'devel' you installed.
> This current issue MAY just be a broken group on your site, which we
> can hopefully fix with maintenance.php.

I did this successfully with some groups, but it fails with one:

Maintenance

Nov 27 16:34:05 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24800
Nov 27 16:34:05 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24801
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24802
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24803
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24804
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24805
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24806
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24807
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24808
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #1942
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.soc.misc...
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.misc
Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #1942

You are running as user: www-data
Starting Import...
Reset: de.soc.misc
Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
root@pi-dach:~#
root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
/etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc

You are running as user: www-data
Starting Import...
Reset: de.soc.misc
Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
root@pi-dach:~#

It then starts from the beginning when articles are polled.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 17:47 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.org (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:47:16 -0700
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 17:36:27 +0100
Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> On 27.11.2024 05:00 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
> > I found that if a group contained zero messages, spoolnews would exit
> > (sort of, but more complicated). I added checking for that, logging
> > for that, then continuing to the next group.
> >
> > I tested by adding some groups with zero messages on the server, and
> > it seems to work fine on my test server. This was all back the first
> > time we discussed this issue, and was in the 'devel' you installed.
> > This current issue MAY just be a broken group on your site, which we
> > can hopefully fix with maintenance.php.
>
> I did this successfully with some groups, but it fails with one:
>
> Maintenance
>
> Nov 27 16:34:05 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24800
> Nov 27 16:34:05 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24801
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24802
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24803
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24804
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24805
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24806
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24807
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24808
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #1942
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.soc.misc...
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.misc
> Nov 27 16:34:06 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #1942
>
> You are running as user: www-data
> Starting Import...
> Reset: de.soc.misc
> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> root@pi-dach:~#
> root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
> /etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc
>
> You are running as user: www-data
> Starting Import...
> Reset: de.soc.misc
> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> root@pi-dach:~#
>
>
> It then starts from the beginning when articles are polled.

Those articles actually do not exist on the server (i2pn2). There were a lot that were removed as bot messages, maybe those are some, but inn keeps the article numbers as used. What you have set in overrides (or default) for $maxfirstrequest might not be high enough to get real messages.

Try maintenance.php -refill de.soc.misc <some big number>

-refill: Go back x articles and retrieve missing from remote server
-refill alt.test 3000 will retrive missing articles for alt.test
starting 3000 articles earlier than latest remote article number

I know that article 20000 exists, so try:
maintenance.php -refill de.soc.misc 6000

If it's still not enough for the amount of messages you'd like, try a higher number.

--
Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org>

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:57 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:57:02 +0100
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On 27.11.2024 10:47 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> I know that article 20000 exists, so try:
> maintenance.php -refill de.soc.misc 6000

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Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:50 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:50:20 +0000
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:57:02 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 27.11.2024 10:47 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> I know that article 20000 exists, so try:
>> maintenance.php -refill de.soc.misc 6000
>
> Spooling: de.soc.misc 1758
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>
Does it ever log anything up to article number 24808?

Something is broken with that group on your server and I don't know what
it is right now. I'm currently running what I think is close to your
settings on a test site to see what happens.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 16:17 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On 28.11.2024 09:50 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> Does it ever log anything up to article number 24808?

This was the continuing part of the log.

> Something is broken with that group on your server and I don't know
> what it is right now. I'm currently running what I think is close to
> your settings on a test site to see what happens.

Tell me which dbs you need, I can provide them for your for testing.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 17:54 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 16:17:14 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 28.11.2024 09:50 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> Something is broken with that group on your server and I don't know
>> what it is right now. I'm currently running what I think is close to
>> your settings on a test site to see what happens.
>
> Tell me which dbs you need, I can provide them for your for testing.

Thanks, but I'm downloading everything from i2pn2 to make sure I have a
full install to match yours. If there is a problem with one or more of
your .db3 files, I want to see if it happens here too.

It should be done downloading later today, and I'll have a duplicate of
your site.

One thing I'm thinking of is maybe exhausting memory with so many groups
in one section, but I can't check that until I'm done.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 20:08 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 17:54:11 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 16:17:14 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>
>> On 28.11.2024 09:50 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>
>>> Something is broken with that group on your server and I don't know
>>> what it is right now. I'm currently running what I think is close to
>>> your settings on a test site to see what happens.
>>
>> Tell me which dbs you need, I can provide them for your for testing.
>
> Thanks, but I'm downloading everything from i2pn2 to make sure I have a
> full install to match yours. If there is a problem with one or more of
> your .db3 files, I want to see if it happens here too.
>
> It should be done downloading later today, and I'll have a duplicate of
> your site.
>
> One thing I'm thinking of is maybe exhausting memory with so many groups
> in one section, but I can't check that until I'm done.

Ok, I imported all the groups, then also ran the maintenance.php -refill
mentioned earlier to get even older messages for de.soc.misc, and it
works properly on my test site:
https://postimg.cc/V5WfxCGR

Debian 12
PHP 8.2.24
2 Gig RAM
Plenty of free disk space (>100 Gig)
It's a raspberry pi

news.i2pn2.org is also remote to me, so I'm not pulling on a super fast
connection. Just a typical U.S. cable connection (which are pretty
slow). My test server (the pi) is in my house, and i2pn2 is a hosted
server across the country from me.

What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.

Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat please.
This will delete the overview for that group, which will be recreated
when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if the newer articles
are in it.

Also, could you check that the newest article in that group is the same
article in the web view as the nntp server (rslight nntp server).

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 07:50 UTC
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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.

Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
/var/spool/rslight.

> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat please.
> This will delete the overview for that group, which will be recreated
> when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if the newer articles
> are in it.

Done.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
>
> Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
> /var/spool/rslight.
>
>> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat please.
>> This will delete the overview for that group, which will be recreated
>> when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if the newer articles
>> are in it.
>
> Done.

Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?

I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all in a
zip or tgz or whatever is fine)

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 09:57 UTC
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Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
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On 29.11.2024 08:10 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>
> > On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
> >
> >> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
> >
> > Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
> > /var/spool/rslight.
> >
> >> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat
> >> please. This will delete the overview for that group, which will
> >> be recreated when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if
> >> the newer articles are in it.
> >
> > Done.
>
> Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?

Haven't seen yet.

> I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
> is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all
> in a zip or tgz or whatever is fine)

After running maintenance, it looks ok and the group is currently empty.

Deleting <ffa5d4e0-e@cbd-4770-9304-9e740e53ff5d> from de.soc.misc
Deleting <ffae661d-9@d10-426d-97c2-943704a37856> from de.soc.misc
Deleting <ffcdf4f6-7@411-4e08-95db-eef9d7f0701f> from de.soc.misc
Deleting <ffdcfc4a-7@468-4297-8270-7867962a0e71> from de.soc.misc
Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
/etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc

You are running as user: www-data
Starting Import...
Reset: de.soc.misc
Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
root@pi-dach:~#

Now polling:

ds for: de.soc.kultur.misc...
Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.kultur.misc
Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #6314
Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid Retrieving articles for: de.soc.misc...
Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.soc.misc: 211 20563 53 24808 de.soc.misc
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org de.soc.misc (requested: overview 24708-24808 received 224 No articles in 24708-24808)
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24708
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24709
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24710
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24711
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24712
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24713
Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24714
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Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24718
Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article

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Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.misc
Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #6428

Now stops again.

--
kind regards
Marco

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Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:08:31 +0000
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 9:57:59 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 29.11.2024 08:10 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>
>>> On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
>>>
>>> Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
>>> /var/spool/rslight.
>>>
>>>> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat
>>>> please. This will delete the overview for that group, which will
>>>> be recreated when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if
>>>> the newer articles are in it.
>>>
>>> Done.
>>
>> Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?
>
> Haven't seen yet.
>
>> I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
>> is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all
>> in a zip or tgz or whatever is fine)
>
> After running maintenance, it looks ok and the group is currently empty.
>
> Deleting <ffa5d4e0-e@cbd-4770-9304-9e740e53ff5d> from de.soc.misc
> Deleting <ffae661d-9@d10-426d-97c2-943704a37856> from de.soc.misc
> Deleting <ffcdf4f6-7@411-4e08-95db-eef9d7f0701f> from de.soc.misc
> Deleting <ffdcfc4a-7@468-4297-8270-7867962a0e71> from de.soc.misc
> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
> /etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc
>
> You are running as user: www-data
> Starting Import...
> Reset: de.soc.misc
> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
> root@pi-dach:~#
>
> Now polling:
>
> ds for: de.soc.kultur.misc...
> Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.kultur.misc
> Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #6314
> Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid Retrieving articles for: de.soc.misc...
> Nov 29 09:45:40 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org: de.soc.misc: 211 20563 53
> 24808 de.soc.misc
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid news.i2pn2.org de.soc.misc (requested:
> overview 24708-24808 received 224 No articles in 24708-24808)
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24708
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24709
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24710
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24711
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24712
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24713
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24714
> Nov 29 09:45:41 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24715
> Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24716
> Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24717
> Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24718
> Nov 29 09:45:42 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article
>
> [...]
>
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24807
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid de.soc.misc 423 No such article number 24808
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid OPENING Local server: Resource id #6428
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid Updating threads for: de.soc.misc...
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid Threads updated for: de.soc.misc
> Nov 29 09:45:51 rocksolid CLOSING Local server: Resource id #6428
>
> Now stops again.

Yes, just so the answer is posted here also (not just email), you need
to change the settings in overrides.php to go back more articles:

// spoolnews.php
'maxarticles_per_run' => 1000,
'maxfirstrequest' => 1000,

Change these to higher numbers. Looks like you had '100'. Since this is
a group full of bot spam, a lot of articles are missing after NoCeM.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:33 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:33:13 +0000
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:08:31 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 9:57:59 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>
>> On 29.11.2024 08:10 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
>>>>
>>>> Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
>>>> /var/spool/rslight.
>>>>
>>>>> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat
>>>>> please. This will delete the overview for that group, which will
>>>>> be recreated when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if
>>>>> the newer articles are in it.
>>>>
>>>> Done.
>>>
>>> Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?
>>
>> Haven't seen yet.
>>
>>> I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
>>> is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all
>>> in a zip or tgz or whatever is fine)
>>
>> After running maintenance, it looks ok and the group is currently empty.
>>
>> Deleting <ffa5d4e0-e@cbd-4770-9304-9e740e53ff5d> from de.soc.misc
>> Deleting <ffae661d-9@d10-426d-97c2-943704a37856> from de.soc.misc
>> Deleting <ffcdf4f6-7@411-4e08-95db-eef9d7f0701f> from de.soc.misc
>> Deleting <ffdcfc4a-7@468-4297-8270-7867962a0e71> from de.soc.misc
>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>> root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
>> /etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc
>>
>> You are running as user: www-data
>> Starting Import...
>> Reset: de.soc.misc
>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>> root@pi-dach:~#
>>
>> Now polling:
>>
<snip>
>
> Yes, just so the answer is posted here also (not just email), you need
> to change the settings in overrides.php to go back more articles:
>
> // spoolnews.php
> 'maxarticles_per_run' => 1000,
> 'maxfirstrequest' => 1000,
>
> Change these to higher numbers. Looks like you had '100'. Since this is
> a group full of bot spam, a lot of articles are missing after NoCeM.

The suggestion to check what articles exist on server first is a good
one, and I now see that 'listgroup' is the answer (not xover).

I'll be working on this soon and it will hopefully get spoolnews.php
running much more accurately and cleanly.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 13:26:41 +0000
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:33:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:08:31 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 9:57:59 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>
>>> On 29.11.2024 08:10 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
>>>>> /var/spool/rslight.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat
>>>>>> please. This will delete the overview for that group, which will
>>>>>> be recreated when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if
>>>>>> the newer articles are in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>> Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?
>>>
>>> Haven't seen yet.
>>>
>>>> I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
>>>> is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all
>>>> in a zip or tgz or whatever is fine)
>>>
>>> After running maintenance, it looks ok and the group is currently empty.
>>>
>>> Deleting <ffa5d4e0-e@cbd-4770-9304-9e740e53ff5d> from de.soc.misc
>>> Deleting <ffae661d-9@d10-426d-97c2-943704a37856> from de.soc.misc
>>> Deleting <ffcdf4f6-7@411-4e08-95db-eef9d7f0701f> from de.soc.misc
>>> Deleting <ffdcfc4a-7@468-4297-8270-7867962a0e71> from de.soc.misc
>>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
>>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>> root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
>>> /etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc
>>>
>>> You are running as user: www-data
>>> Starting Import...
>>> Reset: de.soc.misc
>>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>> root@pi-dach:~#
>>>
>>> Now polling:
>>>
> <snip>
>>
>> Yes, just so the answer is posted here also (not just email), you need
>> to change the settings in overrides.php to go back more articles:
>>
>> // spoolnews.php
>> 'maxarticles_per_run' => 1000,
>> 'maxfirstrequest' => 1000,
>>
>> Change these to higher numbers. Looks like you had '100'. Since this is
>> a group full of bot spam, a lot of articles are missing after NoCeM.
>
> The suggestion to check what articles exist on server first is a good
> one, and I now see that 'listgroup' is the answer (not xover).
>
> I'll be working on this soon and it will hopefully get spoolnews.php
> running much more accurately and cleanly.

I have it working now. Just pulled exactly 100 existing articles from
remote when 'maxfirstrequest' set to 100.

I'll test for a while, then release.

--
Retro Guy

Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
From: Retro Guy
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Organization: Rocksolid Light
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 19:58 UTC
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From: retroguy@novabbs.com (Retro Guy)
Newsgroups: rocksolid.nodes.help
Subject: Re: polling stops at the same group
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 19:58:00 +0000
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 13:26:41 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:33:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:08:31 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 9:57:59 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29.11.2024 08:10 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 7:50:34 +0000, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28.11.2024 20:08 Uhr Retro Guy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is different between our setups? I don't know right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno, but if you want I can give you a tarball of /etc/rslight and
>>>>>> /var/spool/rslight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please delete <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-overboard.dat
>>>>>>> please. This will delete the overview for that group, which will
>>>>>>> be recreated when someone clicks to view it. I'd like to see if
>>>>>>> the newer articles are in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you having this trouble with any other groups besides de.soc.misc?
>>>>
>>>> Haven't seen yet.
>>>>
>>>>> I see that overboard is still blank for the group. On my test site, it
>>>>> is fine. Could you please send to me, <spooldir>/de.soc.misc-* (all
>>>>> in a zip or tgz or whatever is fine)
>>>>
>>>> After running maintenance, it looks ok and the group is currently empty.
>>>>
>>>> Deleting <ffa5d4e0-e@cbd-4770-9304-9e740e53ff5d> from de.soc.misc
>>>> Deleting <ffae661d-9@d10-426d-97c2-943704a37856> from de.soc.misc
>>>> Deleting <ffcdf4f6-7@411-4e08-95db-eef9d7f0701f> from de.soc.misc
>>>> Deleting <ffdcfc4a-7@468-4297-8270-7867962a0e71> from de.soc.misc
>>>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 24809
>>>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>>> root@pi-dach:~# sudo -u www-data php
>>>> /etc/rslight/scripts/maintenance.php -reset de.soc.misc
>>>>
>>>> You are running as user: www-data
>>>> Starting Import...
>>>> Reset: de.soc.misc
>>>> Current group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>>> New group pointer for de.soc.misc: 1
>>>> root@pi-dach:~#
>>>>
>>>> Now polling:
>>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Yes, just so the answer is posted here also (not just email), you need
>>> to change the settings in overrides.php to go back more articles:
>>>
>>> // spoolnews.php
>>> 'maxarticles_per_run' => 1000,
>>> 'maxfirstrequest' => 1000,
>>>
>>> Change these to higher numbers. Looks like you had '100'. Since this is
>>> a group full of bot spam, a lot of articles are missing after NoCeM.
>>
>> The suggestion to check what articles exist on server first is a good
>> one, and I now see that 'listgroup' is the answer (not xover).
>>
>> I'll be working on this soon and it will hopefully get spoolnews.php
>> running much more accurately and cleanly.
>
> I have it working now. Just pulled exactly 100 existing articles from
> remote when 'maxfirstrequest' set to 100.
>
> I'll test for a while, then release.

This is all in devel now on gitlab:
https://gitlab.com/rslight-public/rocksolid-light/-/tree/devel?ref_type=heads

--
Retro Guy

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