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* [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?Dario Niedermann
`* Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?Claudio Calvelli
 `* Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?Dario Niedermann
  `* Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?Richard Tobin
   `- Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?Dario Niedermann

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Subject: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
From: Dario Niedermann
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:04 UTC
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From: dario@darioniedermann.it (Dario Niedermann)
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Subject: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
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I'm running 4.3BSD-Reno on an emulated VAX-11/780. The C compiler
installed is the one from Berkeley, dated 1985-86 (according to `what`).

I've hit a bit of a roadblock because I can't find a way to list all of
cpp's pre-defined macros on this system. The method I use with GNU cpp
doesn't work, and I don't have a man page installed for cpp
(the cc man page doesn't say anything about this either).

Does anyone know a way to do this?

TIA!

--
Dario Niedermann. Also on the Internet at:

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Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
From: Claudio Calvelli
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Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
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On 2020-07-10, Dario Niedermann wrote:
> I'm running 4.3BSD-Reno on an emulated VAX-11/780. The C compiler
> installed is the one from Berkeley, dated 1985-86 (according to `what`).

> I've hit a bit of a roadblock because I can't find a way to list all of
> cpp's pre-defined macros on this system. The method I use with GNU cpp
> doesn't work, and I don't have a man page installed for cpp
> (the cc man page doesn't say anything about this either).

It may not be possible...

Can't find a manpage for cpp on 4.3 Reno, but I could find cpp manpages
for other 1986 systems which were essentially BSD with some vendor's
additions, and these don't mention a way to get a list of predefined
macros, they only say which macros were defined by that particular vendor.

I may go and get the microVAX out of the attic and see if I can find a
way... unless somebody replies with a way first.

C

Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
From: Dario Niedermann
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From: dario@darioniedermann.it (Dario Niedermann)
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Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
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Claudio Calvelli <c.news@w42.org.invalid> wrote:

> It may not be possible...
>
> Can't find a manpage for cpp on 4.3 Reno, but I could find cpp
> manpages for other 1986 systems which were essentially BSD with some
> vendor's additions, and these don't mention a way to get a list of
> predefined macros, they only say which macros were defined by that
> particular vendor.

Thanks for your input. For now, I've settled with grepping
/usr/{include,sys} for #defines, but I'm sure the results are
incomplete. For example, 'vax' is missing, but it's still defined as a
macro, who knows where.

> I may go and get the microVAX out of the attic and see if I can find a
> way... unless somebody replies with a way first.

If you have any news, please let me know...

--
Dario Niedermann. Also on the Internet at:

gopher://darioniedermann.it/ <> https://www.darioniedermann.it/

Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
From: Richard Tobin
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In article <slrnrgp4dg.irq.dario@darioniedermann.it>,
Dario Niedermann <dario@darioniedermann.it> wrote:

>Thanks for your input. For now, I've settled with grepping
>/usr/{include,sys} for #defines, but I'm sure the results are
>incomplete. For example, 'vax' is missing, but it's still defined as a
>macro, who knows where.

In the C preprocessor itself. Look for calls to stsym in
/usr/src/lib/cpp/cpp.c

-- Richard

Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
From: Dario Niedermann
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From: dario@darioniedermann.it (Dario Niedermann)
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Subject: Re: [4.3BSD] List of cpp's predefined macros?
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Richard Tobin <richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> In the C preprocessor itself. Look for calls to stsym in
> /usr/src/lib/cpp/cpp.c

Found them, thank you: indeed, "vax" and other useful macros are
defined there.

Kudos for the remarkable knowledge of the 4.3BSD source code.

--
Dario Niedermann. Also on the Internet at:

gopher://darioniedermann.it/ <> https://www.darioniedermann.it/

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