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Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
From: The Doctor
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Organization: NetKnow News
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:14 UTC
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From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
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In article <uvk6r3$gkgb$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>> According to <bp@www.zefox.net>:
>>>I've got a FreeBSD 14 host running sendmail from packages that works perfectly
>>>otherwise but can't be persuaded to communicate with gmail:
>>>(reason: 550-5.7.26 This mail has been blocked because the sender is
>unauthenticated.)
>>
>> Yup, that's a problem.
>>
>>>Is there a FreeBSD expert out there who can tell me what I've missed?
>>
>> Not until you tell us what the domain name is so we can tell you what
>> you're doing wrong. Most likely your sendmail setup is fine, but your
>> SPF and DKIM configations are missing or wrong.
>>
>
>This hostname is www.zefox.net, which makes the domain zefox.net IIUC.
>Nameservice is provided by ns1.zefox.net and ns2.zefox.net, also FreeBSD
>hosts running bind9.18 from packages.
>
>I never did set up MX records for any of my domains (zefox.net, zefox.com
>and zefox.org) but it hasn't caused trouble up to now.
>
>Thanks for writing!
>
>bob prohaska
>

Adding the FreeBSD group.
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Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
From: John Levine
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail, comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Organization: Taughannock Networks
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 01:41 UTC
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From: johnl@taugh.com (John Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
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>>I never did set up MX records for any of my domains (zefox.net, zefox.com
>>and zefox.org) but it hasn't caused trouble up to now.

Let's take a look.

$ dig zefox.net mx

;; ANSWER SECTION:
zefox.net. 85783 IN MX 0 www.zefox.net.zefox.net.

My goodness, that's wrong.

zefox.com and zefox.org have no MX or A record. I am sure I am not the only
person who's configured his MTA to reject mail from bogus domains to which it
can't reply.

Also, none of them have any TXT records, which mean none of them have SPF records.

Set up some valid MX and SPF records and your mail will work a lot better.

Assuming the mail server at www.zefox.net is the one you want to use,
it would be a good idea to use a real SSL certificate rather than a
self-signed one. I see there's a web server on port 80, so set up an
SSL web server on port 443 and you can use the same cert.

Note that this has nothing to do with FreeBSD. If you were running on linux
or SunOS you'd have the same problems.

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Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
From: Lowell Gilbert
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:46 UTC
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From: lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
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Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

> In article <uvk6r3$gkgb$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>> According to <bp@www.zefox.net>:
>>>>I've got a FreeBSD 14 host running sendmail from packages that works perfectly
>>>>otherwise but can't be persuaded to communicate with gmail:
>>>>(reason: 550-5.7.26 This mail has been blocked because the sender is
>>unauthenticated.)
>>>
>>> Yup, that's a problem.
>>>
>>>>Is there a FreeBSD expert out there who can tell me what I've missed?
>>>
>>> Not until you tell us what the domain name is so we can tell you what
>>> you're doing wrong. Most likely your sendmail setup is fine, but your
>>> SPF and DKIM configations are missing or wrong.
>>>
>>
>>This hostname is www.zefox.net, which makes the domain zefox.net IIUC.
>>Nameservice is provided by ns1.zefox.net and ns2.zefox.net, also FreeBSD
>>hosts running bind9.18 from packages.
>>
>>I never did set up MX records for any of my domains (zefox.net, zefox.com
>>and zefox.org) but it hasn't caused trouble up to now.
>>
>>Thanks for writing!
>>
>>bob prohaska
>>
>
> Adding the FreeBSD group.

The advice I would give has already been provided in the thread.

By John Levine, I think.

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Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
From: <bp@www.zefox.net>
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Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:
> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
>
>> In article <uvk6r3$gkgb$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>>>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>> According to <bp@www.zefox.net>:
>>>>>I've got a FreeBSD 14 host running sendmail from packages that works perfectly
>>>>>otherwise but can't be persuaded to communicate with gmail:
>>>>>(reason: 550-5.7.26 This mail has been blocked because the sender is
>>>unauthenticated.)
>>>>
>>>> Yup, that's a problem.
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a FreeBSD expert out there who can tell me what I've missed?
>>>>
>>>> Not until you tell us what the domain name is so we can tell you what
>>>> you're doing wrong. Most likely your sendmail setup is fine, but your
>>>> SPF and DKIM configations are missing or wrong.
>>>>
>>>
>>>This hostname is www.zefox.net, which makes the domain zefox.net IIUC.
>>>Nameservice is provided by ns1.zefox.net and ns2.zefox.net, also FreeBSD
>>>hosts running bind9.18 from packages.
>>>
>>>I never did set up MX records for any of my domains (zefox.net, zefox.com
>>>and zefox.org) but it hasn't caused trouble up to now.
>>>
>>>Thanks for writing!
>>>
>>>bob prohaska
>>>
>>
>> Adding the FreeBSD group.
>
> The advice I would give has already been provided in the thread.
>
> By John Levine, I think.
Can you post a link or reference? Hopefully I missed something.
The name John Levine isn't among my correspondents.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

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From: lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
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Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
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<bp@www.zefox.net> writes:

> Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:
>> doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
>>
>>> In article <uvk6r3$gkgb$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>>>>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>> According to <bp@www.zefox.net>:
>>>>>>I've got a FreeBSD 14 host running sendmail from packages that works perfectly
>>>>>>otherwise but can't be persuaded to communicate with gmail:
>>>>>>(reason: 550-5.7.26 This mail has been blocked because the sender is
>>>>unauthenticated.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup, that's a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a FreeBSD expert out there who can tell me what I've missed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not until you tell us what the domain name is so we can tell you what
>>>>> you're doing wrong. Most likely your sendmail setup is fine, but your
>>>>> SPF and DKIM configations are missing or wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This hostname is www.zefox.net, which makes the domain zefox.net IIUC.
>>>>Nameservice is provided by ns1.zefox.net and ns2.zefox.net, also FreeBSD
>>>>hosts running bind9.18 from packages.
>>>>
>>>>I never did set up MX records for any of my domains (zefox.net, zefox.com
>>>>and zefox.org) but it hasn't caused trouble up to now.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for writing!
>>>>
>>>>bob prohaska
>>>>
>>>
>>> Adding the FreeBSD group.
>>
>> The advice I would give has already been provided in the thread.
>>
>> By John Levine, I think.
> Can you post a link or reference? Hopefully I missed something.
> The name John Levine isn't among my correspondents.

It's literally in the message you sent.

Track the attributions for his name.

Subject: Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem
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Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:
>
> It's literally in the message you sent.
>
> Track the attributions for his name.

Apologies for the confusion, eventually I figured it out.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

Subject	Author
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	The Doctor
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	John Levine
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	Lowell Gilbert
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	<bp
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	Lowell Gilbert
Re: Sendmail on FreeBSD 14, gmail problem	<bp