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* Re: Posting on my LC 475, What are you running? Follow upHeiko Recktenwald
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Subject: Re: Posting on my LC 475, What are you running? Follow up
From: Heiko Recktenwald
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 22:28 UTC
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From: heikorecktenwald@gmail.com (Heiko Recktenwald)
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Subject: Re: Posting on my LC 475, What are you running? Follow up
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Am 11.11.21 um 18:27 schrieb nospam:

>> Pretty sure if want to do TCP/IP with a modern router you need an
>> ethernet card.
>
> tcp worked over localtalk. an ethernet card was obviously quite a bit
> faster, but it was not needed.

But dont forget SLIP. Without any adapter. All you needed was a serial
cable to a second computer with WIFI or whatever to the internet.

Subject: Re: Posting on my LC 475, What are you running? Follow up
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Heiko Recktenwald <heikorecktenwald@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am 11.11.21 um 18:27 schrieb nospam:
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>>> Pretty sure if want to do TCP/IP with a modern router you need an
>>> ethernet card.
>>
>> tcp worked over localtalk. an ethernet card was obviously quite a bit
>> faster, but it was not needed.
>
> But dont forget SLIP. Without any adapter. All you needed was a serial
> cable to a second computer with WIFI or whatever to the internet.

SLIP is cumbersome to configure. PPP is easier. Also, I'm not aware about a
SLIP implementation running on System 7.

To use IP over LocalTalk you need additional software to tunnel IP in
AppleTalk packets. Personally, I'm using older Cisco Routers for that purpose.
There never have been LocalTalk interfaces for those, though.

To connect LocalTalk and Ethernet network segments, you need either a Mac with
both ports, or a hardware bridge. Unfortunately, those are becoming rare.

--

:wq! PoC

Subject: Re: Posting on my LC 475, What are you running? Follow up
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poc@pocnet.net wrote:
> To connect LocalTalk and Ethernet network segments, you need either a Mac with
> both ports, or a hardware bridge. Unfortunately, those are becoming rare.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have a Cayman GatorBox CS in storage that does that. I used it mainly to
connect an Apple IIGS to a Netatalk server running on a Linux box, but I
think I might've gotten some sort of IP connectivity on a Quadra 610 or
Color Classic with it as well.

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In article <keki0iFtqhpU1@mid.individual.net>, poc@pocnet.net wrote:

> Heiko Recktenwald <heikorecktenwald@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Am 11.11.21 um 18:27 schrieb nospam:
> >
> >>> Pretty sure if want to do TCP/IP with a modern router you need an
> >>> ethernet card.
> >>
> >> tcp worked over localtalk. an ethernet card was obviously quite a bit
> >> faster, but it was not needed.
> >
> > But dont forget SLIP. Without any adapter. All you needed was a serial
> > cable to a second computer with WIFI or whatever to the internet.
>
> SLIP is cumbersome to configure. PPP is easier. Also, I'm not aware about a
> SLIP implementation running on System 7.
>
> To use IP over LocalTalk you need additional software to tunnel IP in
> AppleTalk packets. Personally, I'm using older Cisco Routers for that purpose.
> There never have been LocalTalk interfaces for those, though.
>
> To connect LocalTalk and Ethernet network segments, you need either a Mac with
> both ports, or a hardware bridge. Unfortunately, those are becoming rare.

I've got a Cisco 2800 series running my appletalk zone, It works well with
my Farallon Etherwave serial to ethernet adapter. Saves my PDS slot for
other uses.

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