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Subject: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
From: Ant
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:14 UTC

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Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
and showed me
https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
(photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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Subject: Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
From: Jörg Lorenz
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 04:55 UTC
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From: hugybear@gmx.net (Jörg Lorenz)
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On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
> and showed me
> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>
> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>
> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

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"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

Subject: Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
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On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>> and showed me
>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>
>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>
>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

Your nuts are numb. Again.

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Subject: Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
From: Ant
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In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
> >> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
> >> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
> >> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
> >> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
> >> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
> >> and showed me
> >> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
> >> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
> >> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
> >> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
> >>
> >> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
> >> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
> >> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
> >> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
> >>
> >> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
> >> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
> >
> > Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
> > What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.

> Your nuts are numb. Again.

Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
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Subject: Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
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On 2024-09-16 21:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>> and showed me
>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/
>> rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>
>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>
>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.

Why would it be "utter nonsense" to apply an upDATE to an OS?

Presumably, the most recent updates to Ventura are for bugs that Apple
identified, rather than to add new features.

macOS Venture 13.7 was released YESTERDAY.

So why wouldn't you want that?

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From: hugybear@gmx.net (Jörg Lorenz)
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On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>> and showed me
>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>
>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>
>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>
>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>
>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>
>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>
> Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.

You are obviously not familiar with the Apple support policy.

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You understand not much:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.

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On 17.09.24 14:49, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>> and showed me
>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>
>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>
>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>
>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>
> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>
> Your nuts are numb. Again.

Idiot:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

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On 2024-09-17 23:09, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
>> In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>>> and showed me
>>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>>
>>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>>
>>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>>
>>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>>
>> Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
>
> You understand not much:
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
>
> And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.
>

So what?

Why is that important?

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On 2024-09-18, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
>> In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>>> and showed me
>>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>>
>>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>>
>>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>>
>>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>>
>> Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
>
> You understand not much:
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

Go ahead and tell us which patches are missing from Ventura, since you
are supposedly so knowledgeable, Jerk.

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So I tried again yesterday morning, but this time I didn't lock my
session since I was near by. It upgraded successfully.

However, I ran into a new issue. Every time I reboot and relog into an
macOS account, it said I didn't shut down properly and gave me an option
to report to Apple with this crash dump (copied and pasted its texts,
and uploaded to
https://zimage.com/~ant/temp/macOSventura13.7afterRebootAndLoggingIn.txt).
Panic with NVME. That sounded bad. So, I tried shutting down MBP and
powering it back up. No more crashes. That was scary. I hope it was a
hiccup. Yes, there are back ups.

In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
> and showed me
> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(

> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.

> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

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On 2024-09-18 02:10, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 17.09.24 14:49, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>> and showed me
>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>
>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>
>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>
>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia". [ AAA ] <-------
>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>>
>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>>
>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>
> Idiot:
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

So Sequoia was released ____ 2 days ago ____ and you believe it to be
unsupported? See [ AAA ] above.

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On 18 Sep 2024 at 07:09:50 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
>> In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>>> and showed me
>>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>>
>>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>>
>>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>>
>>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>>
>> Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
>
> You understand not much:
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
>
> And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.

Have pity on those of us who have no option. My iMac is the 2017 model and is
stuck at Ventura. I have no particular need to get a newer model even if I
could afford it.

Old John.
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the courage to change the things I can,
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John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> On 18 Sep 2024 at 07:09:50 BST, "Jörg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> On 17.09.24 15:09, Ant wrote:
>>> In comp.sys.mac.systems Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-17 00:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> On 17.09.24 02:14, Ant wrote:
>>>>>> Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/
>>>>>> Basically, I told 13" Intel 2020 MBP's macOS to update its Safari and
>>>>>> macOS Ventura to v13.7 while I was out since it takes a while to
>>>>>> download, prepare, upgrade, and finish. I came home and MBP was
>>>>>> asleep. I thought it was done so I woke it up and the screen blinked
>>>>>> and showed me
>>>>>> https://matrix.zimage.com/_matrix/media/v3/download/ross154.net/rJetbpwFfEkNGXPcPaJwxlmU/FullSizeRender.jpg
>>>>>> (photo). I waited for 15 minutes, and it was still there at the same
>>>>>> status. MBP wasn't even warm so it's not doing anything I think.
>>>>>> Usually, upgrades makes MBP warm/hot. :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I held the power button to force a shut off, booted back up, but
>>>>>> nothing. I tried again without power AC, monitor, and 3.5mm speaker
>>>>>> cable. Now, it worked. That scared me. I was able to boot up and log
>>>>>> into macOS Ventura v13.6.9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, should I try again since I never had this issue before? :/ Thank you
>>>>>> for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Upgrade to 15.0 "Sequoia".
>>>>> What you are doing is utter nonsense to upgrade to a system out of support.
>>>
>>>> macOS Sequoia (15.0) was released to the public on 2024-09-16.
>>>
>>>> Your nuts are numb. Again.
>>>
>>> Ventura is still supported. I will update to newer major version later on.
>>
>> You understand not much:
>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
>>
>> And you are fiddling around with an OS which is 2 generations behind.
>
> Have pity on those of us who have no option. My iMac is the 2017 model and is
> stuck at Ventura. I have no particular need to get a newer model even if I
> could afford it.

Ventura and earlier macOS releases are still receiving security updates
so no nneed need to panic re malware at least.

<https://eclecticlight.co/2024/09/18/apple-has-just-released-an-update-to-xprotect-16/>

--
Cheers, Alan

You look tired.

comp / comp.sys.mac.system / Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/

Subject	Author
Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Ant
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Alan Browne
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Ant
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Alan
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Jolly Roger
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	John Hill
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Alan B
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Alan Browne
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 got stuck when I was out. :/	Alan
Re: Updating macOS Ventura v13.6.9 to v13.7 ...	Ant