Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,

Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed off
to the point where all we did was bump tires...

....there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...

....who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
every piece of the right year suspension...

....and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
immediately beside my head.

I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video cameras
now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about his
conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just a racing
incident.

Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it was
drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined that we
would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute choice was
to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked like the better
call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
groups before us dissipating the water on the track, we call changed to
dry tires.

And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.

With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his left.
So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall preventing a
complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best. And I nearly
pulled it off.

Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and so
had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having seen
the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way he could
have tightened his line enough to avoid me.

The end result was this:

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/view?usp=share_link>

Bottom of the line: bad luck.

On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>
> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed off
> to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>
> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>
> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
> every piece of the right year suspension...
>
> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
> immediately beside my head.
>
> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video cameras
> now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about his
> conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just a racing
> incident.
>
> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it was
> drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined that we
> would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute choice was
> to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked like the better
> call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
> groups before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to
> dry tires.
>
> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>
> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his left.
> So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall preventing a
> complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best. And I nearly
> pulled it off.
>
> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and so
> had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having seen
> the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way he could
> have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>
> The end result was this:
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/view?
> usp=share_link>
>
> Bottom of the line: bad luck.

Dang, that's an Ouchie.

Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing some
landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete skim
coat. Naturally, there's also some other scope creep discoveries
involved...

-hh

On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>
>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed off
>> to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>
>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>
>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
>> every piece of the right year suspension...
>>
>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>> immediately beside my head.
>>
>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about
>> his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just a
>> racing incident.
>>
>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it
>> was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined
>> that we would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute
>> choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked
>> like the better call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out,
>> and with other race groups before us dissipating the water on the
>> track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>
>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>
>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
>> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his
>> left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best. And
>> I nearly pulled it off.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and
>> so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having
>> seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way he
>> could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>
>> The end result was this:
>>
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/
>> view? usp=share_link>
>>
>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>
> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>
> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing some
> landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete skim
> coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep discoveries
> involved...
Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.

To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an incident
with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear and front
suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.

<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/view?usp=share_link>

Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed one
of the cardinal sins:

Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by doing
so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed wrong,
putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun, and hit the
wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.

Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this particular
driver has at least once had his license pulled.

On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>
>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed
>>> off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>
>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>>
>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
>>> every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>
>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>>> immediately beside my head.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about
>>> his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just a
>>> racing incident.
>>>
>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it
>>> was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined
>>> that we would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute
>>> choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked
>>> like the better call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out,
>>> and with other race groups before us dissipating the water on the
>>> track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>
>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>
>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
>>> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his
>>> left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best.
>>> And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and
>>> so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having
>>> seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way
>>> he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>
>>> The end result was this:
>>>
>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/
>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>
>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>
>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>
>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete
>> skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep discoveries
>> involved...
>
> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.

Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its indoor
winter water shutoff valve has a leak too. Resulted in ripping out the
control valves too, to have easier wall access for the concrete work;
now debating how to change the design while buying all new to put it
back together, and what to do about the inside valve.

Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-duty
or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.

<https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>

Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector to
save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:

<https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-Sensor/1043275>
vs
<https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>

> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an incident
> with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear and front
> suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/view?
> usp=share_link>
>
> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed one
> of the cardinal sins:
>
> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
> him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by doing
> so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed wrong,
> putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun, and hit the
> wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>
> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this particular
> driver has at least once had his license pulled.

Good thing it didn't happen in a traffic circle! /s

-hh

On 2024-09-16 04:28, -hh wrote:
> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>
>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed
>>>> off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>
>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>>>
>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
>>>> every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>
>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>>>> immediately beside my head.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about
>>>> his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just
>>>> a racing incident.
>>>>
>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it
>>>> was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined
>>>> that we would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute
>>>> choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked
>>>> like the better call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out,
>>>> and with other race groups before us dissipating the water on the
>>>> track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>
>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>
>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
>>>> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his
>>>> left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best.
>>>> And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and
>>>> so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having
>>>> seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way
>>>> he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>
>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/
>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>
>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>
>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete
>>> skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep
>>> discoveries involved...
>>
>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>
>
> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its indoor
> winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in ripping out the
> control valves too, to have easier wall access for the concrete work;
> now debating how to change the design while buying all new to put it
> back together, and what to do about the inside valve.

Arggghh.

At least you discovered it before winter.

>
> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-duty
> or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>
> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>

If you already have a YoLink hub, I'd say that, given the overall cost
of the job you're about to do, it makes a fair amount of sense.

>
> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector to
> save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>
> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-Sensor/1043275>
> vs
> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>

I don't think I know enough to speak intelligently about that choice.
And unlike some around here, I try not to pontificate about things about
which I know too little.

😉

>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an incident
>> with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear and front
>> suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/
>> view? usp=share_link>
>>
>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed one
>> of the cardinal sins:
>>
>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
>> him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by
>> doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed
>> wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun,
>> and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>
>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this particular
>> driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>
>
> Good thing it didn't happen in a traffic circle!   /s
LOL!

On a more serious note for our FF group (and me personally), Dave texted
me this morning saying he may have had it with driving at Mission. He's
been on the wrong end of I think three incidents where the other driver
was to blame, which have all left him with major rebuilds.

If he decides not to race up here anymore, it's going to be shame. He's
a really good friend.

On the flip side, it might just get me off my ass to do a little racing
on his side of the border.

On 2024-09-14 22:28, Alan wrote:
> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>
> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed off
> to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>
> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>
> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
> every piece of the right year suspension...
>
> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
> immediately beside my head.
>
> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video cameras
> now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about his
> conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just a racing
> incident.
>
> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it was
> drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined that we
> would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute choice was
> to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked like the better
> call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
> groups before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to
> dry tires.
>
> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>
> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his left.
> So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall preventing a
> complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best. And I nearly
> pulled it off.
>
> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and so
> had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having seen
> the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way he could
> have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>
> The end result was this:
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/view?
> usp=share_link>
>
> Bottom of the line: bad luck.

When I wrote those last parts about the FV driver, I did so without
knowing a few things about the FV driver who hit me, and now I'm not
certain "bad luck" is an accurate description.

Apparently, this particular driver had already had his license suspended
for (and this floored me) "deliberately bump drafting a car ahead". Bump
drafting—for those who might not know—is (gently) putting the nose of
your car into the rear end of the car ahead, and it is absolutely
against the rules in SCCBC/VRCBC/CACC racing.

I don't think I'm going to get a chance to see my incident from the FV's
perspective, but given that the same driver was involved in a second
incident in a different race that resulted in the complete destruction
of the left side of Dave McKay's car...

....and which resulted in a call for the ambulance to come out to the
site of the crash!...

....I hope that that particular FV driver has his license pulled...

....permanently.

On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>
>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed
>>>> off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>
>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>>>
>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or break
>>>> every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>
>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>>>> immediately beside my head.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting about
>>>> his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this was just
>>>> a racing incident.
>>>>
>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it
>>>> was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined
>>>> that we would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-minute
>>>> choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it looked
>>>> like the better call would be rain tires, but then the sun came out,
>>>> and with other race groups before us dissipating the water on the
>>>> track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>
>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>
>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around, and
>>>> there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to his
>>>> left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best.
>>>> And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires, and
>>>> so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not having
>>>> seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was any way
>>>> he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>
>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/
>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>
>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>
>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete
>>> skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep
>>> discoveries involved...
>>
>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>
>
> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its indoor
> winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in ripping out the
> control valves too, to have easier wall access for the concrete work;
> now debating how to change the design while buying all new to put it
> back together, and what to do about the inside valve.
>
> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-duty
> or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>
> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>
> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector to
> save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>
> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-Sensor/1043275>
> vs
> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>
>
>
>
>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an incident
>> with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear and front
>> suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/view? usp=share_link>
>>
>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed one
>> of the cardinal sins:
>>
>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
>> him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by
>> doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed
>> wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun,
>> and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>
>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this particular
>> driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>
>
>
> -hh

Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake. I
pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak persisted.
With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and ordered all new
parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I hate to think what
might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone. The parts were delayed
but finally arrived last week and fixed the issue.

On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>
>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed
>>>>> off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>>>>> immediately beside my head.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting
>>>>> about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this
>>>>> was just a racing incident.
>>>>>
>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but it
>>>>> was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver determined
>>>>> that we would all go out on the same tires, and the very last-
>>>>> minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before our race, it
>>>>> looked like the better call would be rain tires, but then the sun
>>>>> came out, and with other race groups before us dissipating the
>>>>> water on the track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around,
>>>>> and there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to
>>>>> his left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best.
>>>>> And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires,
>>>>> and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not
>>>>> having seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was
>>>>> any way he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/
>>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>
>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing concrete
>>>> skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep
>>>> discoveries involved...
>>>
>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>>
>>
>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in ripping
>> out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for the
>> concrete work; now debating how to change the design while buying all
>> new to put it back together, and what to do about the inside valve.
>>
>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-
>> duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>>
>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>
>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector to
>> save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>
>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>> Sensor/1043275>
>> vs
>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an incident
>>> with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear and front
>>> suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>
>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/
>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>
>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed
>>> one of the cardinal sins:
>>>
>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
>>> him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by
>>> doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed
>>> wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun,
>>> and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>>
>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this particular
>>> driver has at least once had his license pulled.

While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.

> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
> went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake.

We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but I
included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.

> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak persisted.
> With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and ordered all new
> parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I hate to think what
> might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone. The parts were delayed
> but finally arrived last week and fixed the issue.

We had a similar luck some years ago. A holidays trip to family which
got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening right after
work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the morning for the 4hr
drive. Washing machine's hot water hose failed catastrophically at 4AM,
so we caught it within an hour instead of 4 days later.

Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off whenever
we're not doing laundry. Of course, with the irrigation work being
adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed that this
shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off 100%). So I've
picked up a replacement valve (they're not really rebuildable) and
located the torch ... just need to find the solder & flux, as they
weren't stored with the torch for some reason.

-hh

On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my speed
>>>>>> off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front tire
>>>>>> immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting
>>>>>> about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this
>>>>>> was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but
>>>>>> it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before
>>>>>> our race, it looked like the better call would be rain tires, but
>>>>>> then the sun came out, and with other race groups before us
>>>>>> dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around,
>>>>>> and there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to
>>>>>> his left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the best.
>>>>>> And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires,
>>>>>> and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not
>>>>>> having seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there was
>>>>>> any way he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing
>>>>> concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope creep
>>>>> discoveries involved...
>>>>
>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>>>
>>>
>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while buying
>>> all new to put it back together, and what to do about the inside valve.
>>>
>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-
>>> duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>>>
>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>
>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector to
>>> save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>
>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>> vs
>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear
>>>> and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/
>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed
>>>> one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>
>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up behind
>>>> him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by, but by
>>>> doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go; guessed
>>>> wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where he spun,
>>>> and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>
>
> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.

I certainly hope so.

Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both incidents,
it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules and--despite
being a Canadian--racing on a US license.

>
>
>
>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
>> went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake.
>
> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but I
> included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>
>
>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I
>> hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone.
>> The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and fixed the issue.
>
> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family which
> got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening right after
> work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the morning for the 4hr
> drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed catastrophically at 4AM,
> so we caught it within an hour instead of 4 days later.
>
> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off whenever
> we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation work being
> adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed that this
> shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off 100%).  So I've
> picked up a replacement valve (they're not really rebuildable) and
> located the torch ... just need to find the solder & flux, as they
> weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
The joys of being a homeowner, huh?

The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
water leaks...

Sigh.

On 9/21/24 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my
>>>>>>> speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following
>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting
>>>>>>> about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this
>>>>>>> was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but
>>>>>>> it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before
>>>>>>> our race, it looked like the better call would be rain tires, but
>>>>>>> then the sun came out, and with other race groups before us
>>>>>>> dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around,
>>>>>>> and there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to
>>>>>>> his left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the
>>>>>>> best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires,
>>>>>>> and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not
>>>>>>> having seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there
>>>>>>> was any way he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>>>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing
>>>>>> concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope
>>>>>> creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while
>>>> buying all new to put it back together, and what to do about the
>>>> inside valve.
>>>>
>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-
>>>> duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>>>>
>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector
>>>> to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>> vs
>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear
>>>>> and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/
>>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed
>>>>> one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>
>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by,
>>>>> but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go;
>>>>> guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where
>>>>> he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>
>>
>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>
> I certainly hope so.
>
> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both incidents,
> it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules and--despite
> being a Canadian--racing on a US license.

Wheels of justice turn slowly... /s

>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
>>> went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake.
>>
>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but I
>> included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>
>>
>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I
>>> hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone.
>>> The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and fixed the
>>> issue.
>>
>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family which
>> got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening right after
>> work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the morning for the 4hr
>> drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed catastrophically at
>> 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of 4 days later.
>>
>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation work
>> being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed that
>> this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off 100%).  So
>> I've picked up a replacement valve (they're not really rebuildable)
>> and located the torch ... just need to find the solder & flux, as they
>> weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
>
> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?

Stuff always wears out...just like we do too. I found the solder, so I
now have all the tools ... and most of the parts needed for that valve
replacement. It will take a day (without rushing), but it beats a $300
service call.

The irrigation is effectively done; that work is the result of a
trade-off of adding complexity for wanting to automate a chore. I missed
two PVC joints in the gluing-up during final assembly, which resulted in
three 2 hour cure time delays to finish it off. The new design has all
of the zone valves on a common manifold with Unions on them so that I
can decouple the entire thing and bring it into a non-freezing space
until spring for winterization. Put the electrical on connector plugs too.

On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my
>>>>>>> speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following
>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting
>>>>>>> about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this
>>>>>>> was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but
>>>>>>> it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before
>>>>>>> our race, it looked like the better call would be rain tires, but
>>>>>>> then the sun came out, and with other race groups before us
>>>>>>> dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around,
>>>>>>> and there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go to
>>>>>>> his left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a wall
>>>>>>> preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for the
>>>>>>> best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires,
>>>>>>> and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not
>>>>>>> having seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there
>>>>>>> was any way he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with removing
>>>>>> some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a failing
>>>>>> concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other scope
>>>>>> creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>
>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while
>>>> buying all new to put it back together, and what to do about the
>>>> inside valve.
>>>>
>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-
>>>> duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>>>>
>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector
>>>> to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>> vs
>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the rear
>>>>> and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/
>>>>> view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed
>>>>> one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>
>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by,
>>>>> but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go;
>>>>> guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where
>>>>> he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>
>>
>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>
> I certainly hope so.
>
> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both incidents,
> it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules and--despite
> being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
>>> went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake.
>>
>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but I
>> included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>
>>
>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I
>>> hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone.
>>> The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and fixed the
>>> issue.
>>
>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family which
>> got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening right after
>> work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the morning for the 4hr
>> drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed catastrophically at
>> 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of 4 days later.
>>
>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation work
>> being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed that
>> this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off 100%).  So
>> I've picked up a replacement valve (they're not really rebuildable)
>> and located the torch ... just need to find the solder & flux, as they
>> weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>
> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
> water leaks...
>
> Sigh.

Water, so necessary and so destructive.

Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing. Just 1
race entered, late this year, none finished, dead last in club FF
standings with 1 point. 2003 no races entered. 2002 7 races finished out
of 22. Not enough to even be eligible for the club championship. 2001
you ran just 3 races, won all 3, but those were 3 2001 Club Champion
Alan McColl missed. Strange about that. When better drivers show up you
don't.

On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my
>>>>>>>> speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following
>>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have video
>>>>>>>> cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the meeting
>>>>>>>> about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my mind, this
>>>>>>>> was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying but
>>>>>>>> it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes before
>>>>>>>> our race, it looked like the better call would be rain tires,
>>>>>>>> but then the sun came out, and with other race groups before us
>>>>>>>> dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way around,
>>>>>>>> and there was just no way I could have tightened my line to go
>>>>>>>> to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I dared (with a
>>>>>>>> wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance, and hoped for
>>>>>>>> the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet tires,
>>>>>>>> and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and (despite not
>>>>>>>> having seen the video or heard the report) I don't think there
>>>>>>>> was any way he could have tightened his line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other
>>>>>>> scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too
>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while
>>>>> buying all new to put it back together, and what to do about the
>>>>> inside valve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do double-
>>>>> duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal shutoff.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector
>>>>> to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>> vs
>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver committed
>>>>>> one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by,
>>>>>> but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go;
>>>>>> guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left, where
>>>>>> he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like 65-75mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>
>>>
>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>
>> I certainly hope so.
>>
>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both incidents,
>> it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules and--despite
>> being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water sensor
>>>> went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's plastic intake.
>>>
>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but I
>>> included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later I
>>>> hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were gone.
>>>> The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and fixed the
>>>> issue.
>>>
>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the morning
>>> for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed
>>> catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of 4
>>> days later.
>>>
>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed
>>> that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off
>>> 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're not really
>>> rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to find the solder &
>>> flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>
>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>> water leaks...
>>
>> Sigh.
>
> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>
> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.

On 11/2/2024 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my
>>>>>>>>> speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following
>>>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have
>>>>>>>>> video cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the
>>>>>>>>> meeting about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my
>>>>>>>>> mind, this was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying
>>>>>>>>> but it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes
>>>>>>>>> before our race, it looked like the better call would be rain
>>>>>>>>> tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race groups
>>>>>>>>> before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed
>>>>>>>>> to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way
>>>>>>>>> around, and there was just no way I could have tightened my
>>>>>>>>> line to go to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I
>>>>>>>>> dared (with a wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance,
>>>>>>>>> and hoped for the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet
>>>>>>>>> tires, and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and
>>>>>>>>> (despite not having seen the video or heard the report) I don't
>>>>>>>>> think there was any way he could have tightened his line enough
>>>>>>>>> to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other
>>>>>>>> scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>>>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while
>>>>>> buying all new to put it back together, and what to do about the
>>>>>> inside valve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do
>>>>>> double- duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal
>>>>>> shutoff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector
>>>>>> to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>>>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>>> vs
>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver
>>>>>>> committed one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by,
>>>>>>> but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go;
>>>>>>> guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left,
>>>>>>> where he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like
>>>>>>> 65-75mph.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>>
>>> I certainly hope so.
>>>
>>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both
>>> incidents, it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules
>>> and--despite being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water
>>>>> sensor went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's
>>>>> plastic intake.
>>>>
>>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but
>>>> I included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later
>>>>> I hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were
>>>>> gone. The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and
>>>>> fixed the issue.
>>>>
>>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the
>>>> morning for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed
>>>> catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of 4
>>>> days later.
>>>>
>>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed
>>>> that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off
>>>> 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're not really
>>>> rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to find the solder
>>>> & flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
>>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>>
>>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>>> water leaks...
>>>
>>> Sigh.
>>
>> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>>
>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>
> Nope. Wrong again.
>
>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>
> Two races actually:
>
> The British Columbia Historic Motor Races (which you knew about, because
> you made multiple replies to my post here about it).
>
> And one SCCBC event, where I was taken out just after turn 3 of the
> first lap of the first race, so really no surprise that I didn't finish
> any race that weekend.
>
>> dead last in club FF standings with 1 point.
>
> And a right rear suspension destroyed enough that I didn't enter either
> race in October.
>
>> 2003 no races entered. 2002 7 races finished out of 22. Not enough to
>> even be eligible for the club championship. 2001 you ran just 3 races,
>> won all 3, but those were 3 2001 Club Champion Alan McColl missed.
>> Strange about that. When better drivers show up you don't.
>
> Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to have
> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger brother
> died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with cancer in
> April of that year. The first event of that year was in June; 3 days
> after his death.
>
> You'll note that the only event I attended in 2021 was the last event of
> the year, and I have no control over who attends what events.
>
>>
>> The one 2024 vintage race you entered you pulled the restrictor plate
>> and even bragged about it. Some racer you are.
>
> I pulled the restrictor plate after I showed I could easily beat the
> other Formula F cars running that weekend.
>
> Race 2 (with restrictor):
>
> 25 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF
>
>
> Race 3 (with restrictor):
>
> 58 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF...
>
> ...and first place overall, ahead of an FC.
>
>
> Race 4 (with restrictor):
>
> 33 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF.
>
>
> So was it any wonder I was getting bored?
>
>
>> Chicken-shite bragger-boy Alan!
>>
>>
>

On 11/2/24 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the car
>>>>>>>>> immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get my
>>>>>>>>> speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee following
>>>>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have
>>>>>>>>> video cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the
>>>>>>>>> meeting about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my
>>>>>>>>> mind, this was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying
>>>>>>>>> but it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF driver
>>>>>>>>> determined that we would all go out on the same tires, and the
>>>>>>>>> very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15 minutes
>>>>>>>>> before our race, it looked like the better call would be rain
>>>>>>>>> tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race groups
>>>>>>>>> before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call changed
>>>>>>>>> to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way
>>>>>>>>> around, and there was just no way I could have tightened my
>>>>>>>>> line to go to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I
>>>>>>>>> dared (with a wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance,
>>>>>>>>> and hoped for the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet
>>>>>>>>> tires, and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and
>>>>>>>>> (despite not having seen the video or heard the report) I don't
>>>>>>>>> think there was any way he could have tightened his line enough
>>>>>>>>> to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other
>>>>>>>> scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not too
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access for
>>>>>> the concrete work; now debating how to change the design while
>>>>>> buying all new to put it back together, and what to do about the
>>>>>> inside valve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do
>>>>>> double- duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal
>>>>>> shutoff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain detector
>>>>>> to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain sensor to the
>>>>>> controller, vs going to a "smart" device that checks the weather:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>>> vs
>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely destroyed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver
>>>>>>> committed one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car by,
>>>>>>> but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to go;
>>>>>>> guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left,
>>>>>>> where he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like
>>>>>>> 65-75mph.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>>
>>> I certainly hope so.
>>>
>>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both
>>> incidents, it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules
>>> and--despite being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water
>>>>> sensor went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's
>>>>> plastic intake.
>>>>
>>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but
>>>> I included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later
>>>>> I hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were
>>>>> gone. The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and
>>>>> fixed the issue.
>>>>
>>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the
>>>> morning for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed
>>>> catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of 4
>>>> days later.
>>>>
>>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access revealed
>>>> that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't close off
>>>> 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're not really
>>>> rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to find the solder
>>>> & flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for some reason.
>>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>>
>>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>>> water leaks...
>>>
>>> Sigh.
>>
>> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>>
>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>
> Nope. Wrong again.

On 2024-11-03 10:42, Tom Elam wrote:

>>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>>
>> Nope. Wrong again.
>>
>>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>>
>> Two races actually:
>>
>> The British Columbia Historic Motor Races (which you knew about,
>> because you made multiple replies to my post here about it).
>>
>> And one SCCBC event, where I was taken out just after turn 3 of the
>> first lap of the first race, so really no surprise that I didn't
>> finish any race that weekend.
>>
>>> dead last in club FF standings with 1 point.
>>
>> And a right rear suspension destroyed enough that I didn't enter
>> either race in October.

Your graceful apology for not having had a clue is oddly missing, Liarboy.

>>
>>> 2003 no races entered. 2002 7 races finished out of 22. Not enough to
>>> even be eligible for the club championship. 2001 you ran just 3
>>> races, won all 3, but those were 3 2001 Club Champion Alan McColl
>>> missed. Strange about that. When better drivers show up you don't.
>>
>> Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to have
>> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger
>> brother died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with
>> cancer in April of that year. The first event of that year was in
>> June; 3 days after his death.
>>
>> You'll note that the only event I attended in 2021 was the last event
>> of the year, and I have no control over who attends what events.

I reported on what happened to my brother at the time, Liarboy. You even
replied to my post.

Your graceful apology for not having a clue is oddly missing, Liarboy.

>>
>>>
>>> The one 2024 vintage race you entered you pulled the restrictor plate
>>> and even bragged about it. Some racer you are.
>>
>> I pulled the restrictor plate after I showed I could easily beat the
>> other Formula F cars running that weekend.
>>
>> Race 2 (with restrictor):
>>
>> 25 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF
>>
>>
>> Race 3 (with restrictor):
>>
>> 58 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF...
>>
>> ...and first place overall, ahead of an FC.
>>
>>
>> Race 4 (with restrictor):
>>
>> 33 seconds ahead of the 2nd place FF.
>>
>>
>> So was it any wonder I was getting bored?

Your graceful apology for not having a clue is oddly missing, Liarboy.

>>
>>
>>> Chicken-shite bragger-boy Alan!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> I was referring to races that count in the club championship, not a
> bunch of vintage cars racing just for fun. Had more competent drivers
> shown up you would not have been bored.
>
> So yes you did pull the plate and then bragged about how much that
> improved your results.

Yes. A fact I reported at the time, including precisely why I'd done so.

Boredom. Sorry, but I was running never less than 2 seconds a lap faster
than next fastest FF.

Except (mind you), in the very last race of the weekend where I decided
just to drop back and play with Erle so HE wouldn't be bored. And while
I didn't put the restrictor back in, I refrained from using the correct
gear for almost every corner (1st gear corners in 2nd, and so on)...

....and backed off to let him take the chequered flag, because he was a
legal FF and I was not.

And what makes you look worse, Liarboy, is that you were already told
all of this before.

>
> You still can't admit it. The de-rated Honda is as fast as a freshly,
> highly, and expensively tuned Kent, and can repeat that long after that
> Kent is trashed by running way over its design limits and needs a
> "refresh". That's WHY you bought into the Honda FF club. That is what
> makes the Honda the choice of top drivers. The Honda/Mygale combo is a
> proven and consistent winner. After a few races the Kent that is
> competitive will fade or break. You admitted that about your Kent car.

I've never denied that the Honda Fit engine is as good as a good Kent.

And I joined the "club" for the reduced maintenance load, Liarboy. I've
never claimed to be, nor do I want to be a good engine mechanic.

But you forget that Doug had just such a Kent engine:

Freshly built by Arnie Loyning.

Tuned and maintained by a professional race prep shop.

And his car was only a little older than my (1994 vs 1998)

And your claim that...

"After a few races the Kent that is competitive will fade or break."

....is just more of your ignorant bullshit.

On 11/3/2024 2:04 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 11/2/24 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the
>>>>>>>>>> car immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get
>>>>>>>>>> my speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee
>>>>>>>>>> following me...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/or
>>>>>>>>>> break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have
>>>>>>>>>> video cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the
>>>>>>>>>> meeting about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my
>>>>>>>>>> mind, this was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying
>>>>>>>>>> but it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF
>>>>>>>>>> driver determined that we would all go out on the same tires,
>>>>>>>>>> and the very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15
>>>>>>>>>> minutes before our race, it looked like the better call would
>>>>>>>>>> be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
>>>>>>>>>> groups before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call
>>>>>>>>>> changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way
>>>>>>>>>> around, and there was just no way I could have tightened my
>>>>>>>>>> line to go to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I
>>>>>>>>>> dared (with a wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance,
>>>>>>>>>> and hoped for the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet
>>>>>>>>>> tires, and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and
>>>>>>>>>> (despite not having seen the video or heard the report) I
>>>>>>>>>> don't think there was any way he could have tightened his line
>>>>>>>>>> enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some other
>>>>>>>>> scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not
>>>>>>>> too bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access
>>>>>>> for the concrete work; now debating how to change the design
>>>>>>> while buying all new to put it back together, and what to do
>>>>>>> about the inside valve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do
>>>>>>> double- duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal
>>>>>>> shutoff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain
>>>>>>> detector to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain
>>>>>>> sensor to the controller, vs going to a "smart" device that
>>>>>>> checks the weather:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely
>>>>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver
>>>>>>>> committed one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car
>>>>>>>> by, but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending to
>>>>>>>> go; guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's left,
>>>>>>>> where he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at something like
>>>>>>>> 65-75mph.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>>>
>>>> I certainly hope so.
>>>>
>>>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both
>>>> incidents, it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules
>>>> and--despite being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water
>>>>>> sensor went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's
>>>>>> plastic intake.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms, but
>>>>> I included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass and
>>>>>> ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days later
>>>>>> I hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we were
>>>>>> gone. The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week and
>>>>>> fixed the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the
>>>>> morning for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose failed
>>>>> catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour instead of
>>>>> 4 days later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access
>>>>> revealed that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't
>>>>> close off 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're
>>>>> not really rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to find
>>>>> the solder & flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for some
>>>>> reason.
>>>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>>>
>>>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>>>> water leaks...
>>>>
>>>> Sigh.
>>>
>>> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>>>
>>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>>
>> Nope. Wrong again.
>
> Because Tom attempts to create narratives on other peoples' lives. /s
>
>
>>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>>
>> Two races actually:
>> ... > Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to have
>> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger
>> brother died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with
>> cancer in April of that year...
>
> An example of how everyone invariably has other things going on in their
> life, which are under zero obligation to volunteer to the public.
>
> Case in point, Tommy's brags about his international vacation trips
> seemed to have dried up after 2018.  There's been just mention of a
> Canadian Rail journey and the Rhine (via Paris) river cruise this year,
> but 2023, 22, 21 and 2020 were apparently quite silent.  Granted, CoVid
> may explain, but its not been made explicit: double standard much? /s
>
>
> -hh
>
>

On 2024-11-15 09:25, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/3/2024 2:04 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/2/24 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the
>>>>>>>>>>> car immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get
>>>>>>>>>>> my speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee
>>>>>>>>>>> following me...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up and/
>>>>>>>>>>> or break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have
>>>>>>>>>>> video cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my
>>>>>>>>>>> mind, this was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying
>>>>>>>>>>> but it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF
>>>>>>>>>>> driver determined that we would all go out on the same tires,
>>>>>>>>>>> and the very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes before our race, it looked like the better call would
>>>>>>>>>>> be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
>>>>>>>>>>> groups before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call
>>>>>>>>>>> changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way
>>>>>>>>>>> around, and there was just no way I could have tightened my
>>>>>>>>>>> line to go to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I
>>>>>>>>>>> dared (with a wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance,
>>>>>>>>>>> and hoped for the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet
>>>>>>>>>>> tires, and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and
>>>>>>>>>>> (despite not having seen the video or heard the report) I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't think there was any way he could have tightened his
>>>>>>>>>>> line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some
>>>>>>>>>> other scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not
>>>>>>>>> too bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access
>>>>>>>> for the concrete work; now debating how to change the design
>>>>>>>> while buying all new to put it back together, and what to do
>>>>>>>> about the inside valve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do
>>>>>>>> double- duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal
>>>>>>>> shutoff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain
>>>>>>>> detector to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain
>>>>>>>> sensor to the controller, vs going to a "smart" device that
>>>>>>>> checks the weather:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely
>>>>>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver
>>>>>>>>> committed one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car
>>>>>>>>> by, but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending
>>>>>>>>> to go; guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's
>>>>>>>>> left, where he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at
>>>>>>>>> something like 65-75mph.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly hope so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both
>>>>> incidents, it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules
>>>>> and--despite being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water
>>>>>>> sensor went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's
>>>>>>> plastic intake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms,
>>>>>> but I included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived
>>>>>> yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass
>>>>>>> and ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days
>>>>>>> later I hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we
>>>>>>> were gone. The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week
>>>>>>> and fixed the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>>>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>>>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the
>>>>>> morning for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose
>>>>>> failed catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour
>>>>>> instead of 4 days later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>>>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>>>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access
>>>>>> revealed that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't
>>>>>> close off 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're
>>>>>> not really rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to
>>>>>> find the solder & flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for
>>>>>> some reason.
>>>>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>>>>> water leaks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sigh.
>>>>
>>>> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>>>>
>>>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>>>
>>> Nope. Wrong again.
>>
>> Because Tom attempts to create narratives on other peoples' lives. /s
>>
>>
>>>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>>>
>>> Two races actually:
>>> ... > Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to
>>> have
>>> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger
>>> brother died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with
>>> cancer in April of that year...
>>
>> An example of how everyone invariably has other things going on in
>> their life, which are under zero obligation to volunteer to the public.
>>
>> Case in point, Tommy's brags about his international vacation trips
>> seemed to have dried up after 2018.  There's been just mention of a
>> Canadian Rail journey and the Rhine (via Paris) river cruise this
>> year, but 2023, 22, 21 and 2020 were apparently quite silent.
>> Granted, CoVid may explain, but its not been made explicit: double
>> standard much? /s
>>
>>
>> -hh
>>
>>
>
> No explanation for missing almost the entire 2024 season given. Alan is
> obligated by his unfounded bragging about his racing exploits.

On 11/15/24 12:25 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/3/2024 2:04 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/2/24 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>>>
>>> Nope. Wrong again.
>>
>> Because Tom attempts to create narratives on other peoples' lives. /s
>>
>>
>>>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>>>
>>> Two races actually:
>>> ... > Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to
>>> have
>>> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger
>>> brother died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with
>>> cancer in April of that year...
>>
>> An example of how everyone invariably has other things going on in
>> their life, which are under zero obligation to volunteer to the public.
>>
>> Case in point, Tommy's brags about his international vacation trips
>> seemed to have dried up after 2018.  There's been just mention of a
>> Canadian Rail journey and the Rhine (via Paris) river cruise this
>> year, but 2023, 22, 21 and 2020 were apparently quite silent.
>> Granted, CoVid may explain, but its not been made explicit: double
>> standard much? /s
>>
>>
>> -hh
>>
>>
>
> No explanation for missing almost the entire 2024 season given.

No explanation .. that you would accept.
I saw his comments and they made sense to me.

> Alan is
> obligated by his unfounded bragging about his racing exploits.

Not at all, for he only started these sarcastic OTs because you were so
openly trolling him on it.

> He seems
> to be losing interest. But to be fair that is not all that unusual. For
> some reason 2024 open wheel race participation at Mission dropped off a
> cliff. Wondering if that has anything to do with the change in who is
> managing the course now.

So then what was the reason "losing interests" for why you've not been
as forthcoming on your personal travel exploits? Or that Alan's satire
was finally sufficiently embarrassing to you?

> Vacations? We are still traveling, but the wife's mom is 102 yo and
> still in her home.

Understandable .. except that you spurned Alan's family commitments
comment, so its damn brazen of you to try to use the same excuse.

> We have been spending a lot more time with her
> helping take care of the house and just because we know she will not be
> with us for much longer. Off to see her and clean up leaves tomorrow.
>
> Well, maybe, just maybe, I did not post anything.
>
> 2018 - 2+ week Santiago-Ft Lauderdale cruise, 2+ weeks in Denmark,
> Sweden, Norway

Covered.

> 2019 - 2 weeks in UK, Ireland

You sure? 'Cause a December 2019 thread mentioned Ireland's max age for
rental cars but you didn't mention that you had just been there...

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/0RW3QIyWW30/m/EHLfe08RAgAJ>

> 2020 - COVID but some domestic travel
> 2021 - COVID and lack of interest. Domestic travel only
> 2022 - 2 weeks Canada
> 2023 - 10 days Costa Rica, lots of domestic travel
> 2024 - 1 week Canada 2 weeks France, Germany, Switzerland
> 2025 - On a waitlist for 2+ weeks Italy, Croatia + a cruise

Covered, but still a quite slow cadence as the years tick off.

Granted, we've only had four weeks internationally this year ourselves,
but there's been reasons for that, including two new & recent events
which likely forestall anything more for the balance of the year.

-hh

On 11/15/2024 12:25 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/3/2024 2:04 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/2/24 9:06 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-02 17:25, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 9/21/2024 11:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-21 03:16, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/17/24 8:36 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/16/2024 7:28 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/16/24 1:10 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-15 16:18, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/15/24 1:28 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well... ...it came to an abrupt end at about 1:25pm today,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Our race had only just started, and at turn 3 of lap 1, the
>>>>>>>>>>> car immediately ahead of me spun, and while I was able to get
>>>>>>>>>>> my speed off to the point where all we did was bump tires...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...there was nothing I could do about the Formula Vee
>>>>>>>>>>> following me...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...who hit might right rear tire hard enough to fold up
>>>>>>>>>>> and/or break every piece of the right year suspension...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...and who ended up half on top of my car with his left front
>>>>>>>>>>> tire immediately beside my head.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the video from his car yet (we have to have
>>>>>>>>>>> video cameras now), nor have I heard from the steward of the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting about his conversation with the Vee driver, but to my
>>>>>>>>>>> mind, this was just a racing incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Conditions were marginal--there had been rain for qualifying
>>>>>>>>>>> but it was drying out, but all three of the fast(ish) FF
>>>>>>>>>>> driver determined that we would all go out on the same tires,
>>>>>>>>>>> and the very last- minute choice was to run on slicks. 15
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes before our race, it looked like the better call would
>>>>>>>>>>> be rain tires, but then the sun came out, and with other race
>>>>>>>>>>> groups before us dissipating the water on the track,  we call
>>>>>>>>>>> changed to dry tires.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And this change proved too much for Martin's traction in turn 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With me running close behind him, he spun 1/4 of the way
>>>>>>>>>>> around, and there was just no way I could have tightened my
>>>>>>>>>>> line to go to his left. So I moved as much to the right as I
>>>>>>>>>>> dared (with a wall preventing a complete off-track avoidance,
>>>>>>>>>>> and hoped for the best. And I nearly pulled it off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the FV running behind me had opted for wet
>>>>>>>>>>> tires, and so had better grip in the mid-corner phase, and
>>>>>>>>>>> (despite not having seen the video or heard the report) I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't think there was any way he could have tightened his
>>>>>>>>>>> line enough to avoid me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The end result was this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>>>> d/1Y9CbWveqC2PS5R3yR0vahcfqMSQ7cV4d/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom of the line: bad luck.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dang, that's an Ouchie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless beats my weekend project, which started with
>>>>>>>>>> removing some landscaping plants to gain access to replace a
>>>>>>>>>> failing concrete skim coat.  Naturally, there's also some
>>>>>>>>>> other scope creep discoveries involved...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scope creep in one's house is often bad news. I hope it's not
>>>>>>>>> too bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leaks on the irrigation system, which has also revealed that its
>>>>>>>> indoor winter water shutoff valve has a leak too.  Resulted in
>>>>>>>> ripping out the control valves too, to have easier wall access
>>>>>>>> for the concrete work; now debating how to change the design
>>>>>>>> while buying all new to put it back together, and what to do
>>>>>>>> about the inside valve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Been debating adding this from YoLink, and if that would do
>>>>>>>> double- duty or would be for belt-and-suspenders on the seasonal
>>>>>>>> shutoff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys5001-dn15#owl1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similarly, thinking about adding the capability of a rain
>>>>>>>> detector to save water too; pros/cons of adding a local rain
>>>>>>>> sensor to the controller, vs going to a "smart" device that
>>>>>>>> checks the weather:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/Orbit-White-Wired-Rain-and-Freeze-
>>>>>>>> Sensor/1043275>
>>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>>> <https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys4102>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To make matters worse, the same FV driver was involved in an
>>>>>>>>> incident with Dave McKay that was even worse; resulting in the
>>>>>>>>> rear and front suspension of Dave's Lola being absolutely
>>>>>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/
>>>>>>>>> d/1CX7HmLymYCg_q9obYjWTQdk6GGXyTCYG/ view? usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently, as Dave was coming up to pass, the FV driver
>>>>>>>>> committed one of the cardinal sins:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having received the blue flag that a faster car was coming up
>>>>>>>>> behind him, he moved of his line to "help" let the faster car
>>>>>>>>> by, but by doing so, he had to guess where Dave was intending
>>>>>>>>> to go; guessed wrong, putting Dave into the grass on driver's
>>>>>>>>> left, where he spun, and hit the wall driver's right at
>>>>>>>>> something like 65-75mph.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, in addition to the incidents with me and Dave, this
>>>>>>>>> particular driver has at least once had his license pulled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While mistakes happen, so too does accountability.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly hope so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only is he (in my opinion) lying about his part in both
>>>>> incidents, it looks like he's playing fast and loose with the rules
>>>>> and--despite being a Canadian--racing on a US license.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Two days before we left for Paris last month a basement water
>>>>>>> sensor went off. A leak had developed at the water softener's
>>>>>>> plastic intake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've gone for decades without having any modern sensor/alarms,
>>>>>> but I included two of them on the YoLink order which arrived
>>>>>> yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pulled it apart, cleaned it up, put it back on, but the leak
>>>>>>> persisted. With some spare copper parts I soldered in a bypass
>>>>>>> and ordered all new parts. If that leak had developed a few days
>>>>>>> later I hate to think what might have happened in the 2 weeks we
>>>>>>> were gone. The parts were delayed but finally arrived last week
>>>>>>> and fixed the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We had a similar luck some years ago.  A holidays trip to family
>>>>>> which got changed at the last minute from leaving in the evening
>>>>>> right after work to sleeping overnight and heading out in the
>>>>>> morning for the 4hr drive.  Washing machine's hot water hose
>>>>>> failed catastrophically at 4AM, so we caught it within an hour
>>>>>> instead of 4 days later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since then, the washing machine's water supply gets turned off
>>>>>> whenever we're not doing laundry.  Of course, with the irrigation
>>>>>> work being adjacent, pulling the washer for plumbing access
>>>>>> revealed that this shutoff valve has a slow seep to it (doesn't
>>>>>> close off 100%).  So I've picked up a replacement valve (they're
>>>>>> not really rebuildable) and located the torch ... just need to
>>>>>> find the solder & flux, as they weren't stored with the torch for
>>>>>> some reason.
>>>>> The joys of being a homeowner, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> The laundry room in our condo has been torn apart to deal with some
>>>>> water leaks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sigh.
>>>>
>>>> Water, so necessary and so destructive.
>>>>
>>>> Just to set the record straight, you are about done with racing.
>>>
>>> Nope. Wrong again.
>>
>> Because Tom attempts to create narratives on other peoples' lives. /s
>>
>>
>>>> Just 1 race entered, late this year, none finished,
>>>
>>> Two races actually:
>>> ... > Well ignoring that the spittle from your rage-posting seems to
>>> have
>>> blinded you to the typos you've made about the years, my younger
>>> brother died at home in June of 2021 after having been diagnosed with
>>> cancer in April of that year...
>>
>> An example of how everyone invariably has other things going on in
>> their life, which are under zero obligation to volunteer to the public.
>>
>> Case in point, Tommy's brags about his international vacation trips
>> seemed to have dried up after 2018.  There's been just mention of a
>> Canadian Rail journey and the Rhine (via Paris) river cruise this
>> year, but 2023, 22, 21 and 2020 were apparently quite silent.
>> Granted, CoVid may explain, but its not been made explicit: double
>> standard much? /s
>>
>>
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> No explanation for missing almost the entire 2024 season given. Alan is
> obligated by his unfounded bragging about his racing exploits. He seems
> to be losing interest. But to be fair that is not all that unusual. For
> some reason 2024 open wheel race participation at Mission dropped off a
> cliff. Wondering if that has anything to do with the change in who is
> managing the course now.
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> Vacations? We are still traveling, but the wife's mom is 102 yo and
> still in her home. We have been spending a lot more time with her
> helping take care of the house and just because we know she will not be
> with us for much longer. Off to see her and clean up leaves tomorrow.
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> Well, maybe, just maybe, I did not post anything.
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> 2018 - 2+ week Santiago-Ft Lauderdale cruise, 2+ weeks in Denmark,
> Sweden, Norway
> 2019 - 2 weeks in UK, Ireland
> 2020 - COVID but some domestic travel
> 2021 - COVID and lack of interest. Domestic travel only
> 2022 - 2 weeks Canada
> 2023 - 10 days Costa Rica, lots of domestic travel
> 2024 - 1 week Canada 2 weeks France, Germany, Switzerland
> 2025 - On a waitlist for 2+ weeks Italy, Croatia + a cruise
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Follow-up - Glad I posted this, reminded me to book that cruise. 14
January days on Holland America's Nieuw Statendam in the Caribbean. Nice
ship, we were on its first cruise after the maiden. Our maiden cruise
was Fairbanks Alaska-Vancouver on the original Statendam.