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Subject: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Thomas E.
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Subject: Alan Baker - pathological liar
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Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an expert in any area he chooses to criticize.

That includes, among others:

Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a pilot
How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google experience
Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident, still insists the driver was at fault.
Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
And others too numerous to mention.

But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
"Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
"I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.

I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Alan
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:01 UTC
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
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On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an expert in any area he chooses to criticize.
>
> That includes, among others:
>
> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here

I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...

....dick

> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a pilot

But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...

....dick

> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has

Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...

....dick

> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google experience

Example... ...dick?

> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident, still insists the driver was at fault.

Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted that if
she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law required), then the
other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the left...

....dick.

And the police report which you cite as an authority on what happened
doesn't cite speeding as a cause...

....dick.

> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
> And others too numerous to mention.

Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.

>
> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>
> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan

Good news, dick.

Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Tom Elam
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 14:51 UTC
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From: thomas.e.elam@gmail.com (Tom Elam)
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Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
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On 2/21/2024 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
>> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of lack
>> of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an expert in any
>> area he chooses to criticize.
>>
>> That includes, among others:
>>
>> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
>
> I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...
>
> ...dick
>
>> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a pilot
>
> But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...
>
> ...dick
>
>> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>
> Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...
>
> ...dick
>
>> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google
>> experience
>
> Example... ...dick?
>
>> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
>> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an
>> innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident,
>> still insists the driver was at fault.
>
> Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted that if
> she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law required), then the
> other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the left...
>
> ...dick.
>
> And the police report which you cite as an authority on what happened
> doesn't cite speeding as a cause...
>
> ...dick.
>
>> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on
>> CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>> And others too numerous to mention.
>
> Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.
>
>>
>> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
>> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves to
>> cause trouble in peoples' lives.
>> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you walked"
>> Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>>
>> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan
>
> Good news, dick.
>
> Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?
>

Alan, the rules of the road are well known. If roundabout signage
indicates you can use a lane to go straight you can use that lane to go
straight.

That police report does not indicate my wife was guilty of improper lane
use, but the other driver was.

CarPlay is way more than an alternate GUI. CarPlay is WAY more
restrictive than the iPhone. Example. On the iPhone Hey Siri/Hey Google
brings up Google Assistant. On CarPlay the same command returns
something like "I can't do that while you are driving." Of course you
would not know. You don't use CarPlay.

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Alan
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 18:41 UTC
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
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On 2024-06-18 07:51, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 2/21/2024 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
>>> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of
>>> lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an expert
>>> in any area he chooses to criticize.
>>>
>>> That includes, among others:
>>>
>>> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
>>
>> I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...
>>
>> ...dick
>>
>>> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a
>>> pilot
>>
>> But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...
>>
>> ...dick
>>
>>> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>
>> Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...
>>
>> ...dick
>>
>>> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google
>>> experience
>>
>> Example... ...dick?
>>
>>> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
>>> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an
>>> innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident,
>>> still insists the driver was at fault.
>>
>> Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted that
>> if she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law required), then
>> the other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the left...
>>
>> ...dick.
>>
>> And the police report which you cite as an authority on what happened
>> doesn't cite speeding as a cause...
>>
>> ...dick.
>>
>>> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on
>>> CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>> And others too numerous to mention.
>>
>> Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.
>>
>>>
>>> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
>>> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves
>>> to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
>>> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you
>>> walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>>>
>>> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan
>>
>> Good news, dick.
>>
>> Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?
>>
>
> Alan, the rules of the road are well known. If roundabout signage
> indicates you can use a lane to go straight you can use that lane to go
> straight.
>

And I never said different.

You know what else the report doesn't say?

That the other driver was speeding or that speeding was a factor in the
accident.

> That police report does not indicate my wife was guilty of improper lane
> use, but the other driver was.

And I never said the report said that...

....but she was in the left lane when she ENTERED the roundabout, and if
she'd been in the correct lane (always travel in the right lane except
when passing is an Indiana law; I cited it, you argued it and lost) the
accident wouldn't happened.

>
> CarPlay is way more than an alternate GUI. CarPlay is WAY more
> restrictive than the iPhone. Example. On the iPhone Hey Siri/Hey Google
> brings up Google Assistant. On CarPlay the same command returns
> something like "I can't do that while you are driving." Of course you
> would not know. You don't use CarPlay.

That is exactly what "alternate" means with regard to interfaces, Liarboy.

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Tom Elam
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Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
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On 6/18/2024 2:41 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-06-18 07:51, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 2/21/2024 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of
>>>> lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an expert
>>>> in any area he chooses to criticize.
>>>>
>>>> That includes, among others:
>>>>
>>>> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
>>>
>>> I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...
>>>
>>> ...dick
>>>
>>>> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a
>>>> pilot
>>>
>>> But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...
>>>
>>> ...dick
>>>
>>>> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>
>>> Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...
>>>
>>> ...dick
>>>
>>>> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google
>>>> experience
>>>
>>> Example... ...dick?
>>>
>>>> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
>>>> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an
>>>> innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident,
>>>> still insists the driver was at fault.
>>>
>>> Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted that
>>> if she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law required),
>>> then the other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the left...
>>>
>>> ...dick.
>>>
>>> And the police report which you cite as an authority on what happened
>>> doesn't cite speeding as a cause...
>>>
>>> ...dick.
>>>
>>>> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on
>>>> CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>> And others too numerous to mention.
>>>
>>> Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
>>>> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves
>>>> to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
>>>> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you
>>>> walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>>>>
>>>> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan
>>>
>>> Good news, dick.
>>>
>>> Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?
>>>
>>
>> Alan, the rules of the road are well known. If roundabout signage
>> indicates you can use a lane to go straight you can use that lane to
>> go straight.
>>
>
> And I never said different.
>
> You know what else the report doesn't say?
>
> That the other driver was speeding or that speeding was a factor in the
> accident.
>
>> That police report does not indicate my wife was guilty of improper
>> lane use, but the other driver was.
>
> And I never said the report said that...
>
> ...but she was in the left lane when she ENTERED the roundabout, and if
> she'd been in the correct lane (always travel in the right lane except
> when passing is an Indiana law; I cited it, you argued it and lost) the
> accident wouldn't happened.

And the left lane is CLEARLY permitted by signage painted on the roadway
AND posted on a sign. AGAIN, the police were informed of our intentions
to go straight through in the left lane and did not cite us for improper
lane use. If we were supposed to be in the right lane the signs should
indicate the left lane is for left turns only and the right lane for
right turn for and straight through. Please explain why the signs don't
agree with your interpretation.

If you want I'll show you a local roundabout where the left lane entry
is for left turns only. But it's a very different road pattern. You have
something similar over UBC.
>
>>
>> CarPlay is way more than an alternate GUI. CarPlay is WAY more
>> restrictive than the iPhone. Example. On the iPhone Hey Siri/Hey
>> Google brings up Google Assistant. On CarPlay the same command returns
>> something like "I can't do that while you are driving." Of course you
>> would not know. You don't use CarPlay.
>
> That is exactly what "alternate" means with regard to interfaces, Liarboy.

What you don't seem to get is that CarPlay just does not work exactly
like the iPhone UI. Thus you whine when I show CarPlay results that you
can't duplicate on your phone.

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - pathological liar
From: Alan
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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On 2024-06-18 15:23, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 6/18/2024 2:41 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-06-18 07:51, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2024 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of
>>>>> lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an
>>>>> expert in any area he chooses to criticize.
>>>>>
>>>>> That includes, among others:
>>>>>
>>>>> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
>>>>
>>>> I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...
>>>>
>>>> ...dick
>>>>
>>>>> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not a
>>>>> pilot
>>>>
>>>> But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...
>>>>
>>>> ...dick
>>>>
>>>>> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>>
>>>> Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...
>>>>
>>>> ...dick
>>>>
>>>>> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google
>>>>> experience
>>>>
>>>> Example... ...dick?
>>>>
>>>>> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
>>>>> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an
>>>>> innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident,
>>>>> still insists the driver was at fault.
>>>>
>>>> Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted
>>>> that if she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law
>>>> required), then the other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the
>>>> left...
>>>>
>>>> ...dick.
>>>>
>>>> And the police report which you cite as an authority on what
>>>> happened doesn't cite speeding as a cause...
>>>>
>>>> ...dick.
>>>>
>>>>> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on
>>>>> CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>>> And others too numerous to mention.
>>>>
>>>> Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
>>>>> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He loves
>>>>> to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
>>>>> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you
>>>>> walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan
>>>>
>>>> Good news, dick.
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alan, the rules of the road are well known. If roundabout signage
>>> indicates you can use a lane to go straight you can use that lane to
>>> go straight.
>>>
>>
>> And I never said different.
>>
>> You know what else the report doesn't say?
>>
>> That the other driver was speeding or that speeding was a factor in
>> the accident.
>>
>>> That police report does not indicate my wife was guilty of improper
>>> lane use, but the other driver was.
>>
>> And I never said the report said that...
>>
>> ...but she was in the left lane when she ENTERED the roundabout, and
>> if she'd been in the correct lane (always travel in the right lane
>> except when passing is an Indiana law; I cited it, you argued it and
>> lost) the accident wouldn't happened.
>
> And the left lane is CLEARLY permitted by signage painted on the roadway
> AND posted on a sign. AGAIN, the police were informed of our intentions
> to go straight through in the left lane and did not cite us for improper
> lane use. If we were supposed to be in the right lane the signs should
> indicate the left lane is for left turns only and the right lane for
> right turn for and straight through. Please explain why the signs don't
> agree with your interpretation.

The left lane is signed IN THE ROUNDABOUT, Liarboy.

BEFORE the roundabout, the law in Indiana is clear:

Keep right except to pass.

>
> If you want I'll show you a local roundabout where the left lane entry
> is for left turns only. But it's a very different road pattern. You have
> something similar over UBC.

We've been over all of this and you're doing what you have always done
in our discussions:

Take things that I've told you and turn around and behave as if I'm the
one who needs to have it explained.

Your wife should have been in the right hand lane BEFORE she got to the
roundabout.

If she had been...

....as Indiana law requires...

....the other car would have been passing her on the left, and there
would have been no conflict.

>>
>>>
>>> CarPlay is way more than an alternate GUI. CarPlay is WAY more
>>> restrictive than the iPhone. Example. On the iPhone Hey Siri/Hey
>>> Google brings up Google Assistant. On CarPlay the same command
>>> returns something like "I can't do that while you are driving." Of
>>> course you would not know. You don't use CarPlay.
>>
>> That is exactly what "alternate" means with regard to interfaces,
>> Liarboy.
>
> What you don't seem to get is that CarPlay just does not work exactly
> like the iPhone UI. Thus you whine when I show CarPlay results that you
> can't duplicate on your phone.

I never said it did work "exactly like the iPhone UI", you miserable,
lying piece of shit.

And what you showed was a problem was only a problem because Apple MAPS
lacked data that Google MAPS had.

It literally had NOTHING to do with which UI was used.

Subject: Re: Alan Baker - hardly a pathological liar! /s
From: -hh
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On 6/18/24 8:05 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-06-18 15:23, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 6/18/2024 2:41 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-18 07:51, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2024 4:01 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-02-21 11:46, Thomas E. wrote:
>>>>>> Do not respond to this troll if he responds to you! Regardless of
>>>>>> lack of personal first-hand experience he will claim to be an
>>>>>> expert in any area he chooses to criticize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That includes, among others:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Driving in Carmel IN - he has never been here
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have to have driven IN Carmel to know the rules of the road...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...dick
>>>>>
>>>>>> Entering flights in pilot logbooks - never done that himself, not
>>>>>> a pilot
>>>>>
>>>>> But I can analyze "data" that looks too perfect...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...dick
>>>>>
>>>>>> How CarPlay/Siri interact - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet I know that an Apple Maps database problem isn't a Siri problem...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...dick
>>>>>
>>>>>> Siri versus Google voice heuristics - apparently has little Google
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>
>>>>> Example... ...dick?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Honda car B pilar tensile strength - he is not a metallurgist
>>>>>> Interpreting a police auto accident report - can't see that an
>>>>>> innocent driver had no fault shown, did not witness the accident,
>>>>>> still insists the driver was at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Liar, dick. I never insisted your wife was at fault. In insisted
>>>>> that if she had been in the right hand lane (as Indiana law
>>>>> required), then the other driver wouldn't have tried to pass on the
>>>>> left...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...dick.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the police report which you cite as an authority on what
>>>>> happened doesn't cite speeding as a cause...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...dick.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Insists that Siri results on his iPhone is the same as you get on
>>>>>> CarPlay - his car does not have CarPlay, never has
>>>>>> And others too numerous to mention.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because CarPlay is just an alternate UI, dick.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But he does not always lie. On Facebook he claims:
>>>>>> "Deep down... ...I'm nothing but trouble." This not a lie. He
>>>>>> loves to cause trouble in peoples' lives.
>>>>>> "I'd love you more for your mind if it bounced gently when you
>>>>>> walked" Not a lie either. Alan is myogenous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll not be replying any time soon, Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> Good news, dick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that mean you'll stop your stalking as well?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan, the rules of the road are well known. If roundabout signage
>>>> indicates you can use a lane to go straight you can use that lane to
>>>> go straight.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And I never said different.
>>>
>>> You know what else the report doesn't say?
>>>
>>> That the other driver was speeding or that speeding was a factor in
>>> the accident.
>>>
>>>> That police report does not indicate my wife was guilty of improper
>>>> lane use, but the other driver was.
>>>
>>> And I never said the report said that...
>>>
>>> ...but she was in the left lane when she ENTERED the roundabout, and
>>> if she'd been in the correct lane (always travel in the right lane
>>> except when passing is an Indiana law; I cited it, you argued it and
>>> lost) the accident wouldn't happened.
>>
>> And the left lane is CLEARLY permitted by signage painted on the
>> roadway AND posted on a sign. AGAIN, the police were informed of our
>> intentions to go straight through in the left lane and did not cite us
>> for improper lane use. If we were supposed to be in the right lane the
>> signs should indicate the left lane is for left turns only and the
>> right lane for right turn for and straight through. Please explain why
>> the signs don't agree with your interpretation.
>
> The left lane is signed IN THE ROUNDABOUT, Liarboy.
>
> BEFORE the roundabout, the law in Indiana is clear:
>
> Keep right except to pass.
>
>>
>> If you want I'll show you a local roundabout where the left lane entry
>> is for left turns only. But it's a very different road pattern. You
>> have something similar over UBC.
>
> We've been over all of this and you're doing what you have always done
> in our discussions:
>
> Take things that I've told you and turn around and behave as if I'm the
> one who needs to have it explained.
>
> Your wife should have been in the right hand lane BEFORE she got to the
> roundabout.
>
> If she had been...
>
> ...as Indiana law requires...
>
> ...the other car would have been passing her on the left, and there
> would have been no conflict.

This is the real irony of this long saga: inasmuch as Tom wants to
deflect having any responsibility for their fender-bender, the fact
remains that there was another car to their right, whose position
indicates overtaking traffic.

The inevitability of interactions is why one practices defensive driving
and anticipates other drivers making mistakes: a good driver is thus
not only aware of other vehicles (& the potential that they overlooked
one), but also seeks to afford other vehicles viable "escape paths", for
not only seen but also for potential unseen vehicles.

FWIW, I can't recall where I got the citation from, but statistically,
ones risks of a collision increase by roughly 5% if one is driving
slower than traffic and is being overtaken. Makes sense when you see
collisions like this one.

>>>> CarPlay is way more than an alternate GUI. CarPlay is WAY more
>>>> restrictive than the iPhone. Example. On the iPhone Hey Siri/Hey
>>>> Google brings up Google Assistant. On CarPlay the same command
>>>> returns something like "I can't do that while you are driving." Of
>>>> course you would not know. You don't use CarPlay.
>>>
>>> That is exactly what "alternate" means with regard to interfaces,
>>> Liarboy.
>>
>> What you don't seem to get is that CarPlay just does not work exactly
>> like the iPhone UI. Thus you whine when I show CarPlay results that
>> you can't duplicate on your phone.
>
> I never said it did work "exactly like the iPhone UI", you miserable,
> lying piece of shit.
>
> And what you showed was a problem was only a problem because Apple MAPS
> lacked data that Google MAPS had.
>
> It literally had NOTHING to do with which UI was used.

Ran into something similar this earlier this month with a rental that
had CarPlay: TL;DR is that the UI got wonky when one's smartphone was
pushing Google Maps over CarPlay while the vehicle's system was running
Apple Maps. Not sure how much of it was lack of familiarity, though.

BTW, Avis at Asheville NC airport is to be avoided: nearly 2 hour delay
to pick up a reserved vehicle (w/"Wizard" status making no difference).

-hh

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On 2024-06-20 08:26, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want I'll show you a local roundabout where the left lane
>>> entry is for left turns only. But it's a very different road pattern.
>>> You have something similar over UBC.
>>
>> We've been over all of this and you're doing what you have always done
>> in our discussions:
>>
>> Take things that I've told you and turn around and behave as if I'm
>> the one who needs to have it explained.
>>
>> Your wife should have been in the right hand lane BEFORE she got to
>> the roundabout.
>>
>> If she had been...
>>
>> ...as Indiana law requires...
>>
>> ...the other car would have been passing her on the left, and there
>> would have been no conflict.
>
> This is the real irony of this long saga:  inasmuch as Tom wants to
> deflect having any responsibility for their fender-bender, the fact
> remains that there was another car to their right, whose position
> indicates overtaking traffic.
>
> The inevitability of interactions is why one practices defensive driving
> and anticipates other drivers making mistakes:  a good driver is thus
> not only aware of other vehicles (& the potential that they overlooked
> one), but also seeks to afford other vehicles viable "escape paths", for
> not only seen but also for potential unseen vehicles.
>
> FWIW, I can't recall where I got the citation from, but statistically,
> ones risks of a collision increase by roughly 5% if one is driving
> slower than traffic and is being overtaken.  Makes sense when you see
> collisions like this one.

And let's remember, Tom's wife was driving in the left lane of two
before she entered a roundabout, which was against the law.

He likes to point out that that can't have been important to the
accident, because it wasn't mentioned in the police report...

....but then neither was the other driver's speeding...

....which he insists was responsible for the accident.

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