Source:
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2024/11/its-canon-baldurs-gate-3-brings-dd-to-the-vatican.html

According to Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing, Baldur’s Gate 3 has
sold 2 copies in The Vatican with one Wishlist on the way.

In what is surely a gaming first, Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing
announced on Twitter that Baldur’s Gate 3 had sold two copies in The
Vatican, with a third on the “wishlist.”

That’s right. The Vatican. Does this mean the Pope is about to get in
there and play a Paladin? Or do you think he’d play the Dark Urge?
Either way, I hope Larian can track down what paths he takes – because I
can’t think of a better way to determine the, ahem, canonical ending
than that.

Baldur’s Gate 3 In The Vatican

First up, here’s the official announcement:

Sold 2 copies of Baldur’s Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
I’d like too think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it’s absolutely gnarly.
via Twitter

Sold 2 copies of Baldur's Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
I'd like to think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it's absolutely gnarly.
— Very AFK (@Cromwelp) November 11, 2024

Now, what’s interesting is that this isn’t the first time The Vatican
has been connected to gaming in recent months. Because earlier this
year, the Catholic Church was on track to beatify a gamer as the first
Millennial Saint. No, really.

So, I can only imagine that this means that someone has set up a PC
gaming rig. The question is, who? Is it actually the Pope? Is it one of
the Papal Guard? Or one of the relatively few people who actually live
there? While we don’t know for certain, and it would be a violation of
all sorts of privacy laws to try and find out, the theological
implications could be huge!

At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
let anyone tell you who you are.

Okay, but do you think it’s the Pope?

On 11/13/2024 3:01 PM, Kyonshi wrote:
>
> Source: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2024/11/its-canon-baldurs-
> gate-3-brings-dd-to-the-vatican.html
>
> According to Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing, Baldur’s Gate 3 has
> sold 2 copies in The Vatican with one Wishlist on the way.
>
> In what is surely a gaming first, Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing
> announced on Twitter that Baldur’s Gate 3 had sold two copies in The
> Vatican, with a third on the “wishlist.”
>
> That’s right. The Vatican. Does this mean the Pope is about to get in
> there and play a Paladin? Or do you think he’d play the Dark Urge?
> Either way, I hope Larian can track down what paths he takes – because I
> can’t think of a better way to determine the, ahem, canonical ending
> than that.
>
> Baldur’s Gate 3 In The Vatican
>
> First up, here’s the official announcement:
>
>     Sold 2 copies of Baldur’s Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
> I’d like too think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
> free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it’s absolutely gnarly.
>     via Twitter
>
>     Sold 2 copies of Baldur's Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
> I'd like to think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
> free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it's absolutely gnarly.
>     — Very AFK (@Cromwelp) November 11, 2024
>
> Now, what’s interesting is that this isn’t the first time The Vatican
> has been connected to gaming in recent months. Because earlier this
> year, the Catholic Church was on track to beatify a gamer as the first
> Millennial Saint. No, really.
>
> So, I can only imagine that this means that someone has set up a PC
> gaming rig. The question is, who? Is it actually the Pope? Is it one of
> the Papal Guard? Or one of the relatively few people who actually live
> there? While we don’t know for certain, and it would be a violation of
> all sorts of privacy laws to try and find out, the theological
> implications could be huge!
>
> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
> let anyone tell you who you are.
>
> Okay, but do you think it’s the Pope?

dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg

On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:21:26 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg

Why, don't you WANT people to read your posts? ;-)

There's not any real reason to split posts across newsgroups. The
audience really isn't large enough. Then again, I was opposed to the
dividing of comp.sys.ibm.games back in '92, so I've got a bit of a
bias against the idea anyway ;-)

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 14:21 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 11/13/2024 3:01 PM, Kyonshi wrote:
>>
>> Source: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2024/11/its-canon-baldurs-
>> gate-3-brings-dd-to-the-vatican.html
>>
>> According to Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing, Baldur’s Gate 3 has
>> sold 2 copies in The Vatican with one Wishlist on the way.
>>
>> In what is surely a gaming first, Larian Studios’ Director of Publishing
>> announced on Twitter that Baldur’s Gate 3 had sold two copies in The
>> Vatican, with a third on the “wishlist.”
>>
>> That’s right. The Vatican. Does this mean the Pope is about to get in
>> there and play a Paladin? Or do you think he’d play the Dark Urge?
>> Either way, I hope Larian can track down what paths he takes – because I
>> can’t think of a better way to determine the, ahem, canonical ending
>> than that.
>>
>> Baldur’s Gate 3 In The Vatican
>>
>> First up, here’s the official announcement:
>>
>>     Sold 2 copies of Baldur’s Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
>> I’d like too think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
>> free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it’s absolutely gnarly.
>>     via Twitter
>>
>>     Sold 2 copies of Baldur's Gate 3 in The Vatican, with 1 wishlist.
>> I'd like to think the latter is just the Pope waiting until he has a
>> free minute. Wish I could see their mod list. Bet it's absolutely gnarly.
>>     — Very AFK (@Cromwelp) November 11, 2024
>>
>> Now, what’s interesting is that this isn’t the first time The Vatican
>> has been connected to gaming in recent months. Because earlier this
>> year, the Catholic Church was on track to beatify a gamer as the first
>> Millennial Saint. No, really.
>>
>> So, I can only imagine that this means that someone has set up a PC
>> gaming rig. The question is, who? Is it actually the Pope? Is it one of
>> the Papal Guard? Or one of the relatively few people who actually live
>> there? While we don’t know for certain, and it would be a violation of
>> all sorts of privacy laws to try and find out, the theological
>> implications could be huge!
>>
>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>
>> Okay, but do you think it’s the Pope?
>
> dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg

I don't think it matters too much nowadays considering the amount of
traffic we get.
--
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>> dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg

>I don't think it matters too much nowadays considering the amount of
>traffic we get.

And yet...

CSIPGA's current traffic is practically double what we had five years
ago. Which says something about the lows this newsgroup reached at one
point. Why, it's practically BUSTLING in here now!

(That said, the total number of active users may have declined. We've
got fewer people saying more. I'm not sure if that's actually an
improvement or not)

How do I know? I've got a spreadsheet of course!

Once upon a time, there was a website which kept stats on various
newsgroups, and one of the things it showed was the average number of
posts and total active users for a month. Unfortunately, the website
didn't last very long* but while it stayed up I kept track of
c.s.i.p.g.a's records. So in February 2019, the monthly average was 6
posts per day, with 15 unique users posting. I don't know what the
numbers are nowadays, but it seems we're doing close to 10 to 12
messages per day now; maybe more.

Personally, I point the finger at candycane; they're a prolific
poster. ;-)

* only a matter of months, in fact, so my spreadsheet is _very_ short
;-)

On 11/13/2024 8:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

>
>
> I don't think it matters too much nowadays considering the amount of
> traffic we get.

eh, i just was thinking it was a bit too off topic for .action, but
barely on topic for .rpg

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:37 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>> dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg
>
>>I don't think it matters too much nowadays considering the amount of
>>traffic we get.
>
> And yet...
>
> CSIPGA's current traffic is practically double what we had five years
> ago. Which says something about the lows this newsgroup reached at one
> point. Why, it's practically BUSTLING in here now!
>
> (That said, the total number of active users may have declined. We've
> got fewer people saying more. I'm not sure if that's actually an
> improvement or not)

More of a tight knit community :D

> How do I know? I've got a spreadsheet of course!
>
> Once upon a time, there was a website which kept stats on various
> newsgroups, and one of the things it showed was the average number of
> posts and total active users for a month. Unfortunately, the website
> didn't last very long* but while it stayed up I kept track of
> c.s.i.p.g.a's records. So in February 2019, the monthly average was 6
> posts per day, with 15 unique users posting. I don't know what the
> numbers are nowadays, but it seems we're doing close to 10 to 12
> messages per day now; maybe more.
>
> Personally, I point the finger at candycane; they're a prolific
> poster. ;-)

Ah, I only post occasionally ^^"
If you really want a case of me inflating the activity, look at
rec.arts.comics.creative

> * only a matter of months, in fact, so my spreadsheet is _very_ short
> ;-)

--
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On 11/13/2024 1:37 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 19:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>
>>> dang, that was supposed to go to comp.sys.ibm.games.rpg
>
>> I don't think it matters too much nowadays considering the amount of
>> traffic we get.
>
> And yet...
>
> CSIPGA's current traffic is practically double what we had five years
> ago. Which says something about the lows this newsgroup reached at one
> point. Why, it's practically BUSTLING in here now!
>
> (That said, the total number of active users may have declined. We've
> got fewer people saying more. I'm not sure if that's actually an
> improvement or not)
>
..... That sounds vaguely insulting.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 13/11/2024 14:01, Kyonshi wrote:
> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
> let anyone tell you who you are.

There's still a bit of it going around so I have heard a story about
someone who wanted to play a cleric in D&D but insisted that it could
only conform to the Christian version of god - maybe they wanted their
spells to randomly work or even work in mysterious ways!

Of course they also insisted this applied to the whole world, so no
other gods allowed.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:24:37 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>> (That said, the total number of active users may have declined. We've
>> got fewer people saying more. I'm not sure if that's actually an
>> improvement or not)
>>
>.... That sounds vaguely insulting.

LOL!

I didn't see his post that way until I read yours and then I realized
you are right.

On 11/14/2024 10:28 AM, JAB wrote:
> On 13/11/2024 14:01, Kyonshi wrote:
>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>
> There's still a bit of it going around so I have heard a story about
> someone who wanted to play a cleric in D&D but insisted that it could
> only conform to the Christian version of god - maybe they wanted their
> spells to randomly work or even work in mysterious ways!
>
> Of course they also insisted this applied to the whole world, so no
> other gods allowed.

When I still cared about these things I always found that using other
gods was easier on my mind than using the Christian one. Because that
was clearly fantasy or myth, while I believed in the actual Christian
god. It felt uncomfortable to mix God (the capital G one) with other gods.
It came as a surprise to me that especially American players sometimes
seemed so intent on having it exactly the other way around.

On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:46:09 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 22:24:37 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>> (That said, the total number of active users may have declined. We've
>>> got fewer people saying more. I'm not sure if that's actually an
>>> improvement or not)
>>>
>>.... That sounds vaguely insulting.
>
>LOL!
>
>I didn't see his post that way until I read yours and then I realized
>you are right.

<chuckle>

Obviously it wasn't meant as an insult. But having fewer active
posters --even if they write more-- means that if even one of those
people leaves, the impact is more severe. More posters is a better
sign of long-term health for a forum. Especially since usenet is such
a forgotten medium that we're not gaining new users at the same rate
as we lose them. So I'd much rather have forty active users who post
once a day than ten who post four times a day.

I mean, sure, given my druthers I'd prefer forty active users who post
four times a day, but I'm not going to be greedy ;-)

On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 09:28:01 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

>On 13/11/2024 14:01, Kyonshi wrote:
>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>
>There's still a bit of it going around so I have heard a story about
>someone who wanted to play a cleric in D&D but insisted that it could
>only conform to the Christian version of god - maybe they wanted their
>spells to randomly work or even work in mysterious ways!
>
>Of course they also insisted this applied to the whole world, so no
>other gods allowed.

D&D actually had several official campaign settings (albeit small
ones) focused on a world where the Christian god was dominant in its
Historical Reference series (specifically, "HR2 Charlemangne's
Paladins" and "HR7 The Crusaders"). They didn't outlaw other
mythologies outright but did try to balance the game to a world where
clerical magic was much more limited.

We never played in any of those campaigns ourself, but I used some of
the information therein to aid in the development of my own
adventures, since I generally ran campaigns where magic was much less
common than in typical D&D worlds. When every town doesn't have a slew
of priests to ressurrect you (or even cure poison!) you've got to
offer different ways for players to recuperate from their
misadventures.

(although a lot of time, that 'way' was just 'rest up for three
months' until that wound you got by being stabbed in the gut heals)

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>let anyone tell you who you are.

I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released. Maybe even during the time
when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.

--
l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
[oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
-()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
db //

On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
> Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>
> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released. Maybe even during the time
> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.

I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D. BADD was
popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind. Jack Chick was
was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.

--
-Justisaur

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`-'\ `--.___,
¶¬'\( ,_.-'
\\
^'

On 11/14/2024 7:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> but I'm not going to be greedy ;-)
>
Isn't that heretical in the Church of The Number?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 11/15/2024 1:11 AM, Justisaur wrote:
> On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
>> Kyonshi  <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>
>> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
>> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released.  Maybe even during the time
>> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
>> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.
>
> I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D.  BADD was
> popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind.  Jack Chick was
> was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.
>

And I think D&D was too niche back then to even touch some area like
that (which is after all just the size of a small town, even in the
middle of a metropolis), especially as a lot of inhabitants of the
Vatican city are elder professionals.

One would have to look up when DnD was released in Italian maybe.

On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:23:33 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 11/14/2024 7:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> but I'm not going to be greedy ;-)
>>
>Isn't that heretical in the Church of The Number?

The Number is only interested in the size of your video game library.
We aren't after making EVERY number incredibly large. That would be
silly ;-)

Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
>I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D. BADD was
>popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind. Jack Chick was
>was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.

While I agree the loudest voices in the Satanic panic were funamentalist
Protestants, it was more a cultural thing than a religious one.
Even atheists would have been caught up in the panic. You didn't need to
believe in Satan to believe that there actually were Satanic cults running
around molesting children, and that D&D could be a gateway to that.

But as a cultural thing it didn't really spread far in the non-English
speaking world. So while there would have been plenty of American
Catholics concerned about people playing D&D, I doubt there would've
been anyone in the Vatican who would've admonished some young curate or
Swiss Guard member for playing D&D or a video game based on it.
--
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[oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
-()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
db //

Top post. First off, please knock it off with the non ANSI characters.

I've never had so much trouble posting a reply.

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:32:27 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Kyonshi wrote:

>On 11/15/2024 1:11 AM, Justisaur wrote:
>> On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
>>> Kyonshi  <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>>>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>>
>>> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
>>> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released.  Maybe even during the time
>>> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
>>> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.
>>
>> I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D.  BADD was
>> popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind.  Jack Chick was
>> was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.
>>
>
>And I think D&D was too niche back then to even touch some area like
>that (which is after all just the size of a small town, even in the
>middle of a metropolis), especially as a lot of inhabitants of the
>Vatican city are elder professionals.
>
>One would have to look up when DnD was released in Italian maybe.

All I know, and excuse me if I'm repeating this story for the 19th time,
is that my Irish Catholic grandmother bought me a first print 1e *Deities
& Demigods* for freaking Easter. I asked for it, and she was all "Yup."
So no, I don't think her priest was railing against Satan in D&D.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On 11/15/2024 8:34 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:23:33 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 11/14/2024 7:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> but I'm not going to be greedy ;-)
>>>
>> Isn't that heretical in the Church of The Number?
>
> The Number is only interested in the size of your video game library.
> We aren't after making EVERY number incredibly large. That would be
> silly ;-)
>
Ah, so I was thinking of the MAGA splinter of The Church of The Number. :P

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 11/15/2024 12:37 PM, Zaghadka wrote:
> Top post. First off, please knock it off with the non ANSI characters.
>
> I've never had so much trouble posting a reply.
>
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:32:27 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
> Kyonshi wrote:
>
>> On 11/15/2024 1:11 AM, Justisaur wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
>>>> Kyonshi  <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>>>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>>>>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
>>>> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released.  Maybe even during the time
>>>> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
>>>> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.
>>>
>>> I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D.  BADD was
>>> popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind.  Jack Chick was
>>> was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.
>>>
>>
>> And I think D&D was too niche back then to even touch some area like
>> that (which is after all just the size of a small town, even in the
>> middle of a metropolis), especially as a lot of inhabitants of the
>> Vatican city are elder professionals.
>>
>> One would have to look up when DnD was released in Italian maybe.
>
> All I know, and excuse me if I'm repeating this story for the 19th time,
> is that my Irish Catholic grandmother bought me a first print 1e *Deities
> & Demigods* for freaking Easter. I asked for it, and she was all "Yup."
> So no, I don't think her priest was railing against Satan in D&D.
>
I'm pretty sure it was an American phoneme.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 14/11/2024 14:05, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 11/14/2024 10:28 AM, JAB wrote:
>> On 13/11/2024 14:01, Kyonshi wrote:
>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>
>> There's still a bit of it going around so I have heard a story about
>> someone who wanted to play a cleric in D&D but insisted that it could
>> only conform to the Christian version of god - maybe they wanted their
>> spells to randomly work or even work in mysterious ways!
>>
>> Of course they also insisted this applied to the whole world, so no
>> other gods allowed.
>
> When I still cared about these things I always found that using other
> gods was easier on my mind than using the Christian one. Because that
> was clearly fantasy or myth, while I believed in the actual Christian
> god. It felt uncomfortable to mix God (the capital G one) with other gods.
> It came as a surprise to me that especially American players sometimes
> seemed so intent on having it exactly the other way around.

The whole demonic involvement and D&D kinda passed the UK over
thankfully. Then again even then religion wasn't really a big thing in
the UK even then.

Then again we did have Mary Whitehouse who made up for it all on her own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On 11/15/2024 8:34 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:23:33 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/14/2024 7:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>> but I'm not going to be greedy ;-)
>>>>
>>> Isn't that heretical in the Church of The Number?
>>
>> The Number is only interested in the size of your video game library.
>> We aren't after making EVERY number incredibly large. That would be
>> silly ;-)
>>
>Ah, so I was thinking of the MAGA splinter of The Church of The Number. :P

Make Adventure Games Again?

Xocyll

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 17:50:34 -0800, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

>On 11/15/2024 12:37 PM, Zaghadka wrote:
>> Top post. First off, please knock it off with the non ANSI characters.
>>
>> I've never had so much trouble posting a reply.
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:32:27 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>> Kyonshi wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/15/2024 1:11 AM, Justisaur wrote:
>>>> On 11/14/2024 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
>>>>> Kyonshi  <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> At any rate, it is ironic see D&D go from Satanic Panic to being
>>>>>> installed somewhere in the Vatican in just a few short decades. Never
>>>>>> let anyone tell you who you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure D&D was played in some form in the precincts of the Vatican
>>>>> long before Baldur's Gate 3 was released.  Maybe even during the time
>>>>> when the Satanic Panic thing was raging in the US and to a lesser extent
>>>>> the rest of the English speaking world, but not so much in Italy.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that it was Catholics going after D&D.  BADD was
>>>> popularized by evangelicals - specifically the TV kind.  Jack Chick was
>>>> was some very weird offshoot of Baptist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And I think D&D was too niche back then to even touch some area like
>>> that (which is after all just the size of a small town, even in the
>>> middle of a metropolis), especially as a lot of inhabitants of the
>>> Vatican city are elder professionals.
>>>
>>> One would have to look up when DnD was released in Italian maybe.
>>
>> All I know, and excuse me if I'm repeating this story for the 19th time,
>> is that my Irish Catholic grandmother bought me a first print 1e *Deities
>> & Demigods* for freaking Easter. I asked for it, and she was all "Yup."
>> So no, I don't think her priest was railing against Satan in D&D.
>>
>I'm pretty sure it was an American phoneme.

LOL. No, ethnically Irish. At the time we had Irish and Italian Catholics
in America. She was definitely an American.

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