Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 6/3/2024 6:46 PM, Ant wrote:
> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 6/1/2024 11:53 PM, Ant wrote:
> >
> >>> Do any of you still listen to MIDIs? I do once in a while: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/music/music.html
> >>> That includes MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, FAR, etc. ;)
> >
> >> Not often any more. I've got a pretty big MOD collection. I may have
> >> played some a couple times over the entire last year.
> >
> > Ha, what are your favorites? Mine is the above link. ;)

> Damn... trying to open the playlists it's not even working for me
> anymore. I do have a small folder with broken links to my favorites named:

> ALTAIR.MOD
> baz_ii.s3m (Slam by Bazzar)
> CASTLE.MOD
> ENERGIA.S3M (Energia by Necros/FM)
> EVOCATIO.MOD
> GSLINGER.MOD (Guitar Slinger)
> isotoxin.s3m (Isotoxin by Necros/FM)
> JungleJuice.xm
> JUPITER.S3M
> K_WAGON.MTM (Wagon Station)
> KNGDMSKY.XM (95946)
> m5v-mars.it (Martian Lovesong)
> MECH8.S3M (Mechanism 8)
> OH_YEAH.MOD (Oh Yeah by Yello)
> ORION.MOD
> PARANOID.IT (Paranoid Android by Raidohead)
> PLANETGR.MOD (Planet Groove)
> POINT.S3M (Point of Departure)
> POWERMONG.MOD (Powermonger game theme)
> t2.xm (Terminator 2 movie theme)
> WHENRISE.XM (When we Rise 3:00)

> I found the files and put them in a new playlist in XMPlayer, I am
> listening to them now.

Please share your collection. :)
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>> https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!
>Looks a lot like my Roccat mouse, although for sure shorter and
>wider. But the wheel, buttons, DPI buttons on top, all look very
>similar. I guess form follows function pretty closely.

I bought this newer model on sale as a backup, haven't used it yet:
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/mm720/
Looks neat, with all the holes! Extremely light too

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 21:32:22 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>Question: What's the best MIDI SoftSynth to use?
>
> I couldn't answer that any more.

I have a vague memory Microsoft added a softsynth to Windows at some
point? That's probably not the best though.

I'm somewhat interested in the softsynth topic as I'm thinking of
building a kind of portable piano. Likely a Pi Zero with an amplifier
hat and a little speaker and case. Plus a midi keyboard and some
softsynth. I don't have much use for this so going for cheap.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
>>But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>interesting.
>
>A møøse once bit...
>
>(ah, nevermind)

No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
Monty Python quote suppressed.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:53:07 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 19:24:49 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
><rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, it can give you that "90% accurate" return to nostalgia as you
>>hear / remember sounds that are familiar and relatable... and that can
>>be quite cool.
>
>I'd say that Roland MT-32 Munt emulation is at about 90% accurate at
>this point. I may switch to emulation if my real MT-32 ever fails
>which it likely will considering its age.
>
>I know Munt isn't 100% accurate as I can hear (don't hear?) dropped
>notes and wrong sounding instruments occasionally when Munt is used.

I think that has a lot to do with the expected ROMS being used in
MUNT. Apparently some games are extremely sensitive to the version of
the ROM. I've been unable to test, only having my old, dead MT-32 as a
source and comparison. (I really should get that fixed but I'd get so
little use out of it -I can only hook it up to my older retro-PCs-
that I've never bothered).

Anyway, my primary use would be Sierra games (which had excellent
MT-32 support) and DOSBox/Munt works very well with those.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:31:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 6/3/2024 6:46 PM, Ant wrote:
>> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On 6/1/2024 11:53 PM, Ant wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Do any of you still listen to MIDIs? I do once in a while: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/music/music.html
>> >>> That includes MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, FAR, etc. ;)
>> >
>> >> Not often any more. I've got a pretty big MOD collection. I may have
>> >> played some a couple times over the entire last year.
>> >
>> > Ha, what are your favorites? Mine is the above link. ;)

Here's a mixed and random selection of my most played

Ascent of the Cloud Eagle (ASCENT.S3M by Necros)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34073

Fountain of Sighs (FOUNTAIN.MOD by Skorpik)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40748

Guitar Slinger (GSLINGER.MOD by jogeir-liljedahl)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42560

Wild King Arthur (WILD.XM by Lizardking)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=62944

Wanderlust (WANDERLST.MOD by Lizardking)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=60335

Children (CHILDREN.XM by Heretic)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36483

Butterfly Flew Away (BUTTERFL.XM by Swallow)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34596

Demonic Sensation (DEMONIC.MOD by TimeLord)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35295

But I've literal hundreds of tracker-files on my disk, and I keep
finding more to add. The above aren't necessarily the best, just some
of the most played... largely because they're some of my oldest and
because they're the ones that got turned to MP3s. Most of the rest are
equally listenable but tend to get lost in the mix and are therefore
less memorable.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 13:53:07 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 19:24:49 -0400, Rin Stowleigh
><rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, it can give you that "90% accurate" return to nostalgia as you
>>hear / remember sounds that are familiar and relatable... and that can
>>be quite cool.
>
>I'd say that Roland MT-32 Munt emulation is at about 90% accurate at
>this point. I may switch to emulation if my real MT-32 ever fails
>which it likely will considering its age.
>
>I know Munt isn't 100% accurate as I can hear (don't hear?) dropped
>notes and wrong sounding instruments occasionally when Munt is used.

Looking this part up on Wikipedia "Given the MT-32 was intended to be
a relatively low-cost prosumer product, many corners were cut in the
design of its DAC output. For example, the circuitry needed to
properly calibrate the DACs was omitted, resulting in distortion of
the analog signal", I have to assume that emulation for hardware with
a crappy DAC is probably closer to the original than most software is
compared to high end audio gear.

Softsynths in pro-grade studios are a funny thing. Sometimes they can
really wow you with the sound, until you hear them side by side with
the real thing -- the hardware they're trying to emulate. And then
it's like the software can be 90-95% there, but its that last 2%-5%
that makes all the difference in the world in terms of inspiration
(which is hugely important in writing or playing music, but not so
much for just listening to music in-game for example).

Also just the signal path alone often makes a difference. One synth I
own (but admittedly don't use often) is a Roland System-8. It is a
virtual analog that you can data dump emulations of many great
sounding vintage synths (Jupiter 8, Jupiter 4, Juno series, JX3P etc)
into the hardware, effectively swapping out the synth engine. But
unsurprisingly some of the engines (called "plug-outs") sound
substantially better when run on the hardware, I suppose because the
signal is coming out of the DAC and then into the pre-amps of a
high-end audio interface (that alone can make a big difference). But
with some of them I actually hear subtle tuning differences in the
oscillators that just sound better on the hardware than when they are
run as "plug in" versions in the DAW, and the signal path doesn't
really impact tuning per se. So I'm not sure if that's because the
synth is taking advantage of more available processing power on the
synth than the computer* or if that's just an intentional strategic
decision by Roland.

* not implying here that the quad DSP system in the synth is really
faster, per se, than modern CPUs... it's just that they are dedicated
to audio and not trying to run a generic operating system that's
juggling a gazillion other things.

As far as dropped notes, wrong sounding instruments etc. I have no
experience with Munt and never owned an MT-32 so it's hard to
speculate what the issues could be there. Dropped notes can be that
polyphony limit is exceeded (the MT-32 advertised 32 notes but I
believe that was a maximum polyphony, which is typicaly of some Roland
products.. more complex patches can reduce polyphony count). It
could also be that the developer(s) of Munt just implemented their own
method of voice stealing to make it more CPU efficient or to overcome
other problems.

On 6/4/2024 2:53 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>> interesting.
>>
>> A møøse once bit...
>>
>> (ah, nevermind)
>
>
> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
> Monty Python quote suppressed.

Or to be too close to ground zero when one detonates.

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dirty old man.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>>>But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>interesting.
>>
>>A møøse once bit...
>>
>>(ah, nevermind)
>
>
> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
> Monty Python quote suppressed.

For a second I thought you meant the programming language.
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 6/4/2024 2:53 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>
>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>
>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>
>>
>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>
> Or to be too close to ground zero when one detonates.

Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote at 12:40 this Wednesday (GMT):
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On 6/4/2024 2:53 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>>
>>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>>
>>>
>>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>>
>> Or to be too close to ground zero when one detonates.
>
>
> Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D

(if you were wondering, ema says "it's only a flesh wound" before one of
the cross examinations in 1-5, and "and now for something completely
different" is said a couple times in 6-2)
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):

>> Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D

>(if you were wondering, ema says "it's only a flesh wound" before one of
>the cross examinations in 1-5, and "and now for something completely
>different" is said a couple times in 6-2)

This is valuable information and I shall retain it forever.

(We need a "Monty Python Quotes and References in Video Games" list.)

On 6/5/2024 5:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>
>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>
>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>
>>
>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>
>
> For a second I thought you meant the programming language.

I was more wondering how a python got in someone in the first place.

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:01 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):
>
>
>>> Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D
>
>>(if you were wondering, ema says "it's only a flesh wound" before one of
>>the cross examinations in 1-5, and "and now for something completely
>>different" is said a couple times in 6-2)
>
> This is valuable information and I shall retain it forever.
>
>
> (We need a "Monty Python Quotes and References in Video Games" list.)

Yeah, we should :D
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On 6/4/2024 3:50 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:31:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 6:46 PM, Ant wrote:
>>>> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/1/2024 11:53 PM, Ant wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Do any of you still listen to MIDIs? I do once in a while: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/music/music.html
>>>>>> That includes MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, FAR, etc. ;)
>>>>
>>>>> Not often any more. I've got a pretty big MOD collection. I may have
>>>>> played some a couple times over the entire last year.
>>>>
>>>> Ha, what are your favorites? Mine is the above link. ;)
>
>
>
> Here's a mixed and random selection of my most played
>
> Ascent of the Cloud Eagle (ASCENT.S3M by Necros)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34073
>
> Fountain of Sighs (FOUNTAIN.MOD by Skorpik)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40748
>
> Guitar Slinger (GSLINGER.MOD by jogeir-liljedahl)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42560
>
> Wild King Arthur (WILD.XM by Lizardking)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=62944
>
> Wanderlust (WANDERLST.MOD by Lizardking)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=60335
>
> Children (CHILDREN.XM by Heretic)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36483
>
> Butterfly Flew Away (BUTTERFL.XM by Swallow)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34596
>
> Demonic Sensation (DEMONIC.MOD by TimeLord)
> https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35295
>
>
>
>
> But I've literal hundreds of tracker-files on my disk, and I keep
> finding more to add. The above aren't necessarily the best, just some
> of the most played... largely because they're some of my oldest and
> because they're the ones that got turned to MP3s. Most of the rest are
> equally listenable but tend to get lost in the mix and are therefore
> less memorable.
>

I've got 152 total in my mod folder.

My favorites I played yesterday didn't really do much for me anymore,
but I found them good for background music as they (mostly) don't have
voices to distract me and aren't as volume/intensity variable as classic
music.

I've got far more .mp3s, I'm not even sure how many as I've got them
divided up in different folders and sub folders. I have 215 in my
"Rock-Main" alone, I've got 14 folders in the mp3 folder, and some of
those have 3 more subfolders, I don't think I go any deeper than those
sub folders but I'm not looking through them all right now.

I haven't kept up collecting those anymore as I've got a youtube music
playlist for the computer and my wife got the apple subscription so I've
just been downloading whatever I feel like on to my phone. I don't even
listen to them much on the phone, as I mostly listen to podcasts when
I'm driving or doing chores. Sometimes I'll listen to the radio alt or
classic rock station driving and that's mostly how I pick up new music I
like.

I only recently discovered Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Simple Man" and added that
on the phone/youtube from the classic rock station.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eNoms9wsGc

My most recent from the Alt station is "Yes I'm a Mess" by AJR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Iot0IbkjQ

I also added a few of the songs from the Cyberpunk 2077 radio I really
like "Pain" by Le Destroy. (NSFW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vloe5Ol26nY

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On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:01:58 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):
>
>
>>> Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D
>
>>(if you were wondering, ema says "it's only a flesh wound" before one of
>>the cross examinations in 1-5, and "and now for something completely
>>different" is said a couple times in 6-2)
>
>This is valuable information and I shall retain it forever.
>
>
>(We need a "Monty Python Quotes and References in Video Games" list.)
>
We can start here:

https://www.mobygames.com/game/1975/monty-pythons-complete-waste-of-time/

The whole game is a comprehensive python reference.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:31:19 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Justisaur wrote:

>On 6/5/2024 5:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>>
>>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>>
>>>
>>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>>
>>
>> For a second I thought you meant the programming language.
>
>I was more wondering how a python got in someone in the first place.

Um... I accidentally sat on it?

(Most common ridiculous excuse for you-know-what when a case is presented
at the hospital)

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:50:01 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:31:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>>Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/3/2024 6:46 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> On 6/1/2024 11:53 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> Do any of you still listen to MIDIs? I do once in a while: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/music/music.html
>>> >>> That includes MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, FAR, etc. ;)
>>> >
>>> >> Not often any more. I've got a pretty big MOD collection. I may have
>>> >> played some a couple times over the entire last year.
>>> >
>>> > Ha, what are your favorites? Mine is the above link. ;)
>
>
>
>Here's a mixed and random selection of my most played
>
[snip]

I was more into techno:

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35623
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=51055
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=39913
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=46661
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59635

I actually have the mod of this one, but the archive only has an xm
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41760

I'm pretty sure the Crusader (Origin) games had mod files for their
soundtrack too.
http://www.mirsoft.info/wogm_download.php?data=YToyOntpOjA7czozOiIyOTMiO2k6MTtpOjE3MTc2MDYzMzI7fQ==

(Haven't tried that zip yet.)

I think System Shock and Crusader got me into this stuff, thus the focus
on techno. Orbital Flower was used in DX-Ball. Remember that game?

--
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No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:50:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:52 this Wednesday (GMT):
>
>
>>> Yeah! Even Phoenix Wright pulls two Monty Python references :D
>
>>(if you were wondering, ema says "it's only a flesh wound" before one of
>>the cross examinations in 1-5, and "and now for something completely
>>different" is said a couple times in 6-2)
>
>This is valuable information and I shall retain it forever.
>
>
>(We need a "Monty Python Quotes and References in Video Games" list.)
>

No more Daikatana robot frogs, we need crunchy frog surprise!

Xocyll

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 07:31:19 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Justisaur wrote:
>
>>On 6/5/2024 5:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>>>
>>>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>>>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>>>
>>>
>>> For a second I thought you meant the programming language.
>>
>>I was more wondering how a python got in someone in the first place.
>
>Um... I accidentally sat on it?

>(Most common ridiculous excuse for you-know-what when a case is presented
>at the hospital)

A python, that would indicate a "capacity' that is unlikely to be
accidental.

Pythons, not exactly on the small, "lemming/gerbil" size standard.

Xocyll

On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 11:54:30 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:50:01 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 18:31:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>
>>>Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/2024 6:46 PM, Ant wrote:
>>>> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On 6/1/2024 11:53 PM, Ant wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>> Do any of you still listen to MIDIs? I do once in a while: http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/music/music.html
>>>> >>> That includes MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, FAR, etc. ;)
>>>> >
>>>> >> Not often any more. I've got a pretty big MOD collection. I may have
>>>> >> played some a couple times over the entire last year.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ha, what are your favorites? Mine is the above link. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>Here's a mixed and random selection of my most played
>>
>[snip]
>
>I was more into techno:
>
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35623
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=51055
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=39913
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=46661
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59635
>
>I actually have the mod of this one, but the archive only has an xm
>https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41760
>
>I'm pretty sure the Crusader (Origin) games had mod files for their
>soundtrack too.
>http://www.mirsoft.info/wogm_download.php?data=YToyOntpOjA7czozOiIyOTMiO2k6MTtpOjE3MTc2MDYzMzI7fQ==
>
>(Haven't tried that zip yet.)
>
>I think System Shock and Crusader got me into this stuff, thus the focus
>on techno. Orbital Flower was used in DX-Ball. Remember that game?

There was a brief period when tracker files looked to become the new
music format. It surpassed MIDI in sound quality (well, at least for
most MIDI devices people used on their PCs), had the flexibility of
MID sound, the sound files were smaller than raw WAV files, and used
less CPU time than something like MP3. It was the perfect sound format
for late-era 486 computing; high quality music, low impact on CPU and
storage.

But then CD-ROMs became the defacto storage (so file-size
considerations became moot), and CPU speed increased exponentially.
Thus, most of the advantages of tracker files vanished almost
overnight.

Still, there were a number of games that used the format. The
aforementioned "Crusader" games ("Crusader: No Remorse" (1995) and
"Crusader: No Regret" (1997)) used .MOD files. The Unreal games
famously used tracker music. Indeed, many of Epic Software's early
titles - including "Zone 66", "Jazz Jackrabbit" and "Epic Pinball"
used the format. So too did Microsoft's "Hellbender", Accolade's "Star
Control II", Microprose's "7th Legion" and Paradox's "Age of Wonder"
games. ("System Shock" did not, however. It was old-school MIDI for
that game). It still shows up on occassion, although mostly as a nod
to the old-school feel of gaming (e.g., the 2019 boomer-shooter "Ion
Fury") rather than any real advantage of choosing that format.

These days, most people don't even know what tracker files are (then
again, many gamers have no idea what MIDI is either). It's a shame,
because the format had a very rough and raw feel to it that blends
perfectly with a lot of games. It's quite distinctive, in a way that
WAV audio isn't.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:33:55 +0300, Anssi Saari
<anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 21:32:22 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>>Question: What's the best MIDI SoftSynth to use?
>>
>> I couldn't answer that any more.
>
>I have a vague memory Microsoft added a softsynth to Windows at some
>point? That's probably not the best though.

They did. It allowed the importing of custom patches and could be
quite good; however, the default soundfont was passable at best. The
soundtrack for the original "Hitman: Codename 47" used the Windows
softsynth (using custom patches) and was quite an impressive bit of
composing (you can hear some of it in the background here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4bzLA1JmQ). However, getting to that
point apparently took a lot more work than most developers were
interested in doing, especially when it was easier just to ship the
game with CD-Audio or digitized background music.

For the ordinary end-user, the built-in softsynth (which, as far as
I'm aware, still exists on modern windows, even if its harder to
access these days) was average. It was certainly better than the harsh
FM synthesis of the Soundblasters, but far inferior to the Yamahas and
Rolands (and probably even the Ensoniqs and Creative) synths
available.

On 6/5/2024 7:31 AM, Justisaur wrote:
> On 6/5/2024 5:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this
>> Tuesday (GMT):
>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>>
>>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>>
>>>
>>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>>
>>
>> For a second I thought you meant the programming language.
>
> I was more wondering how a python got in someone in the first place.
>
True, one is much more likely to end up in the python than the python in
you.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:47 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 6/5/2024 7:31 AM, Justisaur wrote:
>> On 6/5/2024 5:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 21:53 this
>>> Tuesday (GMT):
>>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 09:11:31 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 09:48:12 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
>>>>> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But beyond that first impression, møøse aren't really that
>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> A møøse once bit...
>>>>>
>>>>> (ah, nevermind)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, no, no. Let your inner Python out. It's not healthy to keep a
>>>> Monty Python quote suppressed.
>>>
>>>
>>> For a second I thought you meant the programming language.
>>
>> I was more wondering how a python got in someone in the first place.
>>
> True, one is much more likely to end up in the python than the python in
> you.

What if two pythons fought?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On Wed, 05 Jun 2024 17:42:39 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>For the ordinary end-user, the built-in softsynth (which, as far as
>I'm aware, still exists on modern windows, even if its harder to
>access these days) was average. It was certainly better than the harsh
>FM synthesis of the Soundblasters, but far inferior to the Yamahas and
>Rolands (and probably even the Ensoniqs and Creative) synths
>available.

In the Windows 10 midi mapper it is referred to as 'Microsoft GS
Wavetable Synth.' It uses downgraded Roland instrument samples. It
definitely does not sound as good as my Roland SC-55 but is an
improvement over FM synth.