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* smart plugs???Mike Scott
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| +* Re: smart plugs???Carlos E.R.
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: The Natural Philosop
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.mint
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 13:22 UTC
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From: tnp@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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On 18/01/2025 19:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On a certified house you may easily have 10 KW, sometimes 15. More if
> you contract the three phases.

I have 23kW and my own substation! Part of the result of paying tens of
thousands to have the overhead cable across the garden removed. No
transformer on a pole, A substation in the garden instead.

I wish I had gone three phase...I had that option.

But seriously, before the greens and politicians started fucking with it
the UK grid was amongst the best in the world and the house wiring
actually is, in my opinion.

US wiring horrifies me.

European is mostly pretty good.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: Joerg Walther
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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D wrote:

>> I use a permethrin spray on my clothing during tick season. It doesn't
>> repel ticks but fries their nervous system. It's also used for dogs but
>> cats can't break it down as rapidly as other mammals.
>
>Ahh... it works! Surely it must be forbidden in europe then? ;) I will
>remember this!

It is allowed in Germany, it is used to treat scabies on humans, and
there are lotions which you can put on your cat/dog, which make them
poisonous for all sorts of biting insects.

-jw-
--
And now for something completely different...

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: Carlos E.R.
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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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On 2025-01-19 14:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/01/2025 19:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On a certified house you may easily have 10 KW, sometimes 15. More if
>> you contract the three phases.
>
> I have 23kW and my own substation! Part of the result of paying tens of
> thousands to have the overhead cable across the garden removed. No
> transformer on a pole, A substation in the garden instead.

Oh, here (Spain) they charge you for the number of kilowatts in your
pipe, so people without lots of money do adjust to the minimum. A
typical home (which means an apartment) has 3.45Kw. Next step is 4.6Kw.

>
> I wish I had gone three phase...I had that option.
>
> But seriously, before the greens and politicians started fucking with it
> the UK grid was amongst the best in the world and the house wiring
> actually is, in my opinion.
>
> US wiring horrifies me.
>
> European is mostly pretty good.
>
>

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: Charlie Gibbs
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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On 2025-01-19, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> Due to a fall, he has a short tail, the doctor apparently had to cut part
> of it off for some reason. This affected his balance, so sometimes he
> would misjudge things and fall down. Then he would alternately look
> ashamed of himself, or he would look very very similar to "f*ck you" when
> the humans around where laughing at him.

Many cats I've seen will immediately start licking themselves,
with an attitude of "Nothing happened. You didn't see it."

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Its pretty good.
>>>
>>> But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too
>>
>> I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them
>> up by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and
>> you can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are
>> promising to kill you when you put them down.
>>
>>
> Ahh... didn't know that! Did they ever kill anyone when you put them
> down?
> ;)
>

No, they went on about their business.

> In my experience, cats never forget, so doing something like that can
> erase trust quickly and it takes a long time to rebuild, sometimes
> longer than a life time.

I currently feed two. One has been coming around for a couple of years and
the other showed up this summer. In both cases it took a long time before
I could get close enough to pet them. Neither like sudden moves nor will
they come into the house. The older one did come in once to look around
but the other won't cross the threshold.

I've no ideas what their histories are but I don't think they were good.

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:40:16 +0100, D wrote:

> I am trying to build up to one arm pullups, but the joints and tendons
> are unwilling. My only strategy is to take it slow, and not to force
> things. Hopefully I will build up some tolerance over time.

As I got older I became more conservative. Push too hard and injure
yourself, no training until you've healed is counterproductive.
> Did you try a dragon flag? =) It's a great core exercise!

I may try it at the gym. Last winter while prepping for a cataract
operation the nurse asked if I could lift my legs a little so she could
put a pillow under them. I wasn't thinking and did a standard leg raise.
"Good core strength. You can put them down now."

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: D
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From: nospam@example.net (D)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: smart plugs???
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:01:28 +0100
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025, Pancho wrote:

> On 1/19/25 10:40, D wrote:
>>
>
>> I am trying to build up to one arm pullups, but the joints and tendons are
>> unwilling. My only strategy is to take it slow, and not to force things.
>> Hopefully I will build up some tolerance over time.
>>
>
> Is that because you only have one arm, or because you want to look super
> hench. My nieces husband is like that. He broke his arm, arm wrestling, all
> muscle no bone. It's not sensible.

Haha no. Several reasons. The first, is that my wife trains hard to look
her best for me, so I think it is only fair that I take care of myself for
my health and looks for her.

The second reason is that I don't really like training, so in order to
keep myself motivated, I try to find things I cannot yet do, and train in
order to achieve them. That way I have a measure of progress, which keeps
me motivated.

I'd say that those are probably the two reasons, and taking care of myself
because of my wife is the strongest reason.

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: D
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:04:11 +0100
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Its pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too
>>>
>>> I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them
>>> up by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and
>>> you can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are
>>> promising to kill you when you put them down.
>>>
>>>
>> Ahh... didn't know that! Did they ever kill anyone when you put them
>> down?
>> ;)
>>
>
> No, they went on about their business.
>
>> In my experience, cats never forget, so doing something like that can
>> erase trust quickly and it takes a long time to rebuild, sometimes
>> longer than a life time.
>
> I currently feed two. One has been coming around for a couple of years and
> the other showed up this summer. In both cases it took a long time before
> I could get close enough to pet them. Neither like sudden moves nor will
> they come into the house. The older one did come in once to look around
> but the other won't cross the threshold.
>
> I've no ideas what their histories are but I don't think they were good.

I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first! ;)

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: D
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Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:40:16 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> I am trying to build up to one arm pullups, but the joints and tendons
>> are unwilling. My only strategy is to take it slow, and not to force
>> things. Hopefully I will build up some tolerance over time.
>
> As I got older I became more conservative. Push too hard and injure
> yourself, no training until you've healed is counterproductive.

This is the truth! I think we become wiser and more conservative with the
experience of aging. ;)

My prime in terms of injuries was when I was boxing. Fortunately never
anything serious, but I did sprain a finger once with a bad punch.

>> Did you try a dragon flag? =) It's a great core exercise!
>
> I may try it at the gym. Last winter while prepping for a cataract
> operation the nurse asked if I could lift my legs a little so she could
> put a pillow under them. I wasn't thinking and did a standard leg raise.
> "Good core strength. You can put them down now."

Let me know how it goesand best of luck! =)

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:04:11 +0100, D wrote:

> I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first!

I just opened the door and she came in. She may be reconsidering the
outdoor cat thing when it's headed to 4 below Fahrenheit. A little house
with a heating pad only goes so far.

I think the other cat has a crawl space staked out. Last year when it was
20 below she disappeared for a week.

Subject: Re: smart plugs???
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:04:11 +0100, D wrote:
>
>
>> I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first!
>
> I just opened the door and she came in. She may be reconsidering the
> outdoor cat thing when it's headed to 4 below Fahrenheit. A little house
> with a heating pad only goes so far.
>
> I think the other cat has a crawl space staked out. Last year when it was
> 20 below she disappeared for a week.
>

Could it be a hidden corner of your garage or attic?

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