On 7/7/2024 3:55 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:22:57 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 7/5/2024 9:19 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 07:42:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/5/2024 4:36 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:46:17 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... the greatest cultural achievements of the negroid race.
>>>>>
>>>>> Katherine Johnson.
>>>
>>> Did you know she wasn’t even allowed to use the toilets in the building
>>> where she worked?
>>
>> So she broke the law.
>
> So much for trying to claim she was white, eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 07:53:30 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> I would say you are completely misreading what you see, refracted
> through the ideology you have been inculcated with.

What ideology is that?
>
> Those buildings on the hill were (mostly) not private dwellings, they
> were Government offices, granaries, disputes tribunals, record-keepers,
> places of worship, astrological observations, and all the rest of the
> apparatus it took to keep a complex, sedentary society running. Look at
> any monarch’s palace and you will see the same thing: the private
> residence is just one small part of it, the rest is very much devoted to
> the essential machineries of state.

Precisely. When you've created a huge bureaucracy they like fancy offices
as a display of power to impress hoi polloi.

> Remember, in these societies, everybody (apart from the specialists and
> the elite) is a farmer. Doing anything other than farming is something
> they can only afford to do in the off-season, while there is no farming
> to be done. And giving the otherwise-idle hoi polloi something
> constructive to do in the idle times contributes to the common sense of
> national pride anyway. Any attempt towards vanity beyond that point
> among the leadership tends to be self-correcting ... towards societal
> collapse.

Right, the masters keep hoi polloi busy. I have read 'Republic'.

On 7 Jul 2024 18:00:31 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> What ideology is that?

You used the term “slavery”.

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 09:26:06 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 7/7/2024 3:55 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:22:57 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/5/2024 9:19 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 07:42:49 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/5/2024 4:36 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:46:17 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... the greatest cultural achievements of the negroid race.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katherine Johnson.
>>>>
>>>> Did you know she wasn’t even allowed to use the toilets in the
>>>> building where she worked?
>>>
>>> So she broke the law.
>>
>> So much for trying to claim she was white, eh?

So where would you have set the threshold for her to use the Slegs Blankes
facilities?

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> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 09:40:06 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> I would never have brought the unruly savages here.

Some of the unruly savages came from Europe... Cortez, Pizarro, Columbus, ...

> Despite attempts like the American Colonization Society and its spin-off
> Liberia blacks had very little interest in returning to their ancestral
> lands.

Then you have the the U.S. Army, settlers, and state militias.

--
Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is
particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself,
to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade.
-- Charles Dickens, "A Christmas Carol"

On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:46:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> Despite attempts like the American Colonization Society and its
>> spin-off Liberia blacks had very little interest in returning to their
>> ancestral lands.
>
> Then you have the the U.S. Army, settlers, and state militias.

https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur

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> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:46:08 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>> Despite attempts like the American Colonization Society and its
>>> spin-off Liberia blacks had very little interest in returning to their
>>> ancestral lands.
>>
>> Then you have the the U.S. Army, settlers, and state militias.
>
> https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur

Another nonsequitur, mostly apt on Columbus Day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqUyI5IIDOM

The Firesign Theatre "Temporarily Humbolt County"

:-D "By the way, Domini Domini you're all Catholics now" :-D

--
Q: How many gradual (sorry, that's supposed to be "graduate") students
does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: "I'm afraid we don't know, but make my stipend tax-free, give my
advisor a $30,000 grant of the taxpayer's money, and I'm sure he
can tell me how to do the gruntwork for him so he can take the
credit for answering this incredibly vital question."

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:44:35 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Just enjoy the skit, man, it's funny! (After that skit, the album goes
> on to speculate an alternate history where hippie types replace cowboys,
> and the White House becomes the Paisley House.)

I didn't care for Firesign back in the '60s; some things don't improve
with age.

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> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:44:35 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Just enjoy the skit, man, it's funny! (After that skit, the album goes
>> on to speculate an alternate history where hippie types replace cowboys,
>> and the White House becomes the Paisley House.)
>
> I didn't care for Firesign back in the '60s; some things don't improve
> with age.

Oh man, I still love a lot of their stuff. Especially the references to
LA ("How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All?")

Hiya, friends! Ralph Spoilsport, owner and operator of the world's
biggest dealership west of Baalbeck. As you know, we're overdosed again
with lids and kilos. Let's just take a look at some of these fabulous
lids! The LaGuardia Report says this key should be copped for ten thousand,
five hundred dollars, in easy monthly sentences of a year-to-life, and
nobody down. Our complete price to you, including sticks and stems and
seeds, wine-soaked and sugar-cured, completely clean for your smoking
pleasure, the complete price-only what the traffic will allow, in unmarked
bills, delivered to me, Ralph Icebag, in a plain brown wrapper, by a
brown-shoed square in the dead of night! Let's take a taste of this
fabulous Yucatan Blue, scored to you from the sky-blue waters of that
beautiful Mexican bay, hand-picked by naked little froggy native boys in
their tight leather aprons, running through the fields by the sea and the
sea crimson sometimes like fire and the glorious sunsets and the fig trees
in the Alameda gardens yes yes and all the queer little streets and pink
and blue and yellow houses and the rose gardens and the jessamine and
geraniums and cactuses and Gibraltar as a boy where I was a flower of the
mountains yes where I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls
used yes and how she kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as
well him as another and she asked me would I to say yes my mountain flower
and first I put my arms around him yes and drew her down to me so I could
feel her breasts all perfumed yes and his heart was going like mad and yes
I said yes I will yes ... yes ... yes ... yes ... [fading] Yes-s-s-s-s

The last part adapted from "Ulysess" by James Joyce.

--
Q: Are we not men?
A: We are Vaxen.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:06:25 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> The last part adapted from "Ulysess" by James Joyce.

Yeah, I tried to read that once too. I kept waiting for the dirty part but
got bored before I found it.

“The sea, the snotgreen sea, the scrotumtightening sea.”

James Joyce

I had a DI who referred to his charges as 'scrotums'. After getting bland
stares he gently asked "Do any of you motherfucking afterbirths of a
Martian gangbang know what a scrotum is?"

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> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:06:25 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> The last part adapted from "Ulysess" by James Joyce.
>
> Yeah, I tried to read that once too. I kept waiting for the dirty part but
> got bored before I found it.

Yeah, same here, but for "Finnigan's Wake".

"With her hair in honds tuck up yer part inher." or somesuch.

Related is Philip Farmer's "Riders of the Purple Wage", with ends IIRC
with "Winnegan's Fake!"

"Excretion is the bitter part of valor." (Not you, vallor :-)

> “The sea, the snotgreen sea, the scrotumtightening sea.”
>
> James Joyce
>
> I had a DI who referred to his charges as 'scrotums'. After getting bland
> stares he gently asked "Do any of you motherfucking afterbirths of a
> Martian gangbang know what a scrotum is?"

Sounds like he needed a blanket party.

We had a manager of whom I noted "He puts the OT in scrum." He'd have us do
stand-ups out in the South Carolina sun and they'd go way long as we sweated.
I believe he enjoyed that.

--
I reverently believe that the maker who made us all makes everything in New
England, but the weather. I don't know who makes that, but I think it must be
raw apprentices in the weather-clerks factory who experiment and learn how, in
New England, for board and clothes, and then are promoted to make weather for
countries that require a good article, and will take their custom elsewhere
if they don't get it.
-- Mark Twain

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:19:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> We had a manager of whom I noted "He puts the OT in scrum." He'd have us
> do stand-ups out in the South Carolina sun and they'd go way long as we
> sweated.
> I believe he enjoyed that.

Yeah, I'm sort of familiar with stand-ups in the South Carolina sun...

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> On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:19:31 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> We had a manager of whom I noted "He puts the OT in scrum." He'd have us
>> do stand-ups out in the South Carolina sun and they'd go way long as we
>> sweated.
>> I believe he enjoyed that.
>
> Yeah, I'm sort of familiar with stand-ups in the South Carolina sun...

Our base had a ginormous fat alligator, Charlie, whom they would feed
roadkill. Outside his cage was a good place to contemplate the
military-industrial complex.

One year the mosquitos went hog-wild there. Step outside and you're
covered with them.

Traffic was massively redirected during 9/11.

At the entrance to the base I locked eyes with a young mideast kid
being brought to the brig.

One of those brig detainees claimed he was being tortured by foul
smells... the same smells we all endured from the Westvaco paper
plant. :-D

--
We know all about the habits of the ant, we know all about the habits of the
bee, but we know nothing at all about the habits of the oyster. It seems
almost certain that we have been choosing the wrong time for studying the
oyster.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:49:43 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Our base had a ginormous fat alligator, Charlie, whom they would feed
> roadkill. Outside his cage was a good place to contemplate the
> military-industrial complex.

That's better than feeding the gators with recruits trying to swim off the
island I guess.

> One of those brig detainees claimed he was being tortured by foul
> smells... the same smells we all endured from the Westvaco paper plant.
> :-D

The smell of money... I grew up in an area with a lot of paper mills.
They're gone now and so is the money. There was one memorable Boy Scout
Jamboree held on the grounds of Fort Ticonderoga. It was a rainy weekend
like living inside a skunk fart.

2000 miles later the Stone Container plant could get pretty ripe if the
wind was blowing the wrong way. Same story, it's gone along with all the
high paying union jobs.

Hey, it's a service economy! Clean, no nasty smells, and college graduates
pulling shots at Break Espresso or selling boots at REI.

On 10 Jul 2024, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> posted some
news:lf93neF7g99U2@mid.individual.net:

> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:06:25 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> The last part adapted from "Ulysess" by James Joyce.
>
> Yeah, I tried to read that once too. I kept waiting for the dirty part
> but got bored before I found it.
>
> “The sea, the snotgreen sea, the scrotumtightening sea.”
>
> James Joyce
>
> I had a DI who referred to his charges as 'scrotums'. After getting
> bland stares he gently asked "Do any of you motherfucking afterbirths
> of a Martian gangbang know what a scrotum is?"

Ours frequently called us pukes, assholes and scumbags, prefixed with
"fucking" as the situation demanded. SSgt. Baker was a sadistic
sarcastic bastard, but fair if that makes sense, and could get pretty
creative.

We were marching to the chow hall one day and another platoon threw a
guy off a second story stairwell. He hit the concrete deck hard and you
knew he got hurt - bad. Baker, without missing a step, turned to us and
said, "That was fucking tight!" "You fucking see that?" "That was
fucking tight." We kept on marching.